Knight armor help

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Also are there any historical examples of great helms ever being used with plate armor?

Aren't great helms early-era bargain-bin stuff?

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>I need help getting a helmet for it that's more period correct

The rest of the armour is a horrible mix of styles and a lot of things that simply don't match any historical period whatsoever, so it's pretty hard to point to a specific helmet here. (It's also just plain horrible. It's a matter of luck more than anything if a human can even fit at all in there.)

Everything in the first page of your first link looks like abhorrent shite though, so while matching the armour in that way, they also end up with matching recommendations: don't buy.

>>34715461
Not for fighting. Maybe a bit of tournament use somewhere? It remained in use longer for such, and eventually evolved into the frogmouth helmet, and I can't recall at the moment when that happened relative to the introduction of full plate.

>>34715842
The great helm was for the heavy cavalryman, the fully equipped knight or a man-at-arms with the wallet to equip himself as one. It was large, heavy, and probably rather clumsy (especially since you'd be wearing a mail coif, metal skull cap, padded cap, and with the Samsonian fashion at the time a lot of bunched up hair underneath it, knights at the time often seemed to have extremely large heads if you look at period illustrations of them with their great helms off), ill suited to not sitting on top of a horse and charging about. Meaning you need a warhorse, and suddenly all your arms and armour look pretty cheap.

Cheap helmets at the great helm time would IIRC be a kettle hat or just the basic metal skull cap mentioned above.

>>34715461
As jousting helmets usually in the late 1300s in place of or on top of a bascinet.
Once plate armour really became developed no not really, since there were better helmets available like the great bascinet and armet.

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>>34715969
Yeah I know it's a pretty bad replica but I just don't have enough money to buy a better knight armor replica. What do you think of the armor here though, does it look better than the cheap ones on Ebay? This is the cheapest armor at $1162

http://www.kultofathena.com/armor-full-price.asp

>>34716053
Look, you're probably not going to find anything that's wearable and affordable, let alone looks good and is affordable.

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>>34716053
Don't

If you don't have the money don't get armour
Or, get mail or a brigandine with a helmet and maybe gauntlets

Shit armour will not protect you properly and will probably bruise and nip you in wear.

Also do you even know how to put on armour?

>>34716150
ew, just noticed that image says "plate mail"
It is never plate mail, only plate harness or armour, didn't check the image I was saving obviously.

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>>34716053
Well, they're quite as atrocious at least. But good it ain't. Of the Lords of Battle ones I think the early 15th Milanese is the least painful to look at. I'm having some trouble deciding what I think about the GDFB ones, the mannequins they've put them on are clearly very much the wrong size, making it a bit hard to tell who the armour itself is shaped.

IIRC http://www.bestarmour.com/ is a decent and pretty cheap maker. Looks a lot better than the stuff you've linked to at least. Unfortunately it seems there's no prices around on the page any more, but send them a mail and ask.

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>>34716168
>they're quite as

they're NOT quite as...

Still bad of course. But after the first few, even that's eye bleach.

>>34716186
If armour isn't fitted to the wearer it will be horribly uncomfortable, just don't do it until you can afford a custom harness from a decent maker.

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>>34716218
It needs to be the right size, but full fitting shouldn't be necessary. Most plate armour back in the day was bought off the shelf, with custom fitting being more for the kind of person who gets a tailored suit in London nowadays.

On the other hand, with the minimal production volumes we see with armour today, you probably end up with a lot of custom fitting simply because many makers essentially only do one-offs.

>>34716270
Well yes I guess, but if you want a harness you can properly do HEMA techniques in you preferably want good quality armour that fits well and offers good range of motion.

I have full soft kit for HEMA demos at reenactment events but I'm holding off from armour until I either decide to get partial armour or eventually get a full harness in the future.

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>>34716168
Ok thanks, I'll contact them as well. In the meantime though, can you also take a look at these armor and see which ones looks the least worst? I don't want to spend too much if I can as it will just be for display anyway and still buy a cheaper eBay armor if possible. Here are the various ones I've found so far.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Medieval-Knight-Suit-of-Armor-Decorative-Eaching-Armour-Home-Office-Decor-Gothic-/252807815343

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARMOUR-MEDIEVAL-WEARABLE-KNIGHT-CRUSADER-FULL-SUIT-OF-ARMOR-COLLECTIBLE-COSTUME-/162578716675?hash=item25da725803:g:WLAAAOSwMvtZXJYT

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Is this one even based on any real armor or is it just fantasy armor?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEDIEVAL-Fully-WEARABLE-KNIGHT-GOTHIC-FULL-SUIT-OF-ARMOR-/162578898997?hash=item25da752035:g:zMkAAOSwjRpZXLsi

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Medieval-Knight-Reproduction-Full-Decorative-Suit-of-Armour-Muscle-Body-SCA-LARP-/261495318953?hash=item3ce255e9a9:g:TlgAAOxyhS9TjDcp

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Gothic-Functional-Plate-Knight-Suit-Of-Armor-Wearable-Halloween-Costume-G-/263115277777?hash=item3d42e485d1:g:5qYAAOSwS8xZffoM

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Also lastly, are there any medieval armor forums out there where there's a community of people who talk about armor all the time? /k/ isn't too great for this kind of stuff.

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>>34715444
The cheapest option would be 11th Century armor.
What you would need:
>Tunic, pants, boots
>Gambeson
>Mail shirt
>Nasal helm
>Mail coif
>Round "Viking" shield or a kite shield
>Any sword from Wheeler's Typology
>A simple spear or winged spear

>>34715444
https://www.outfit4events.com/eur/category/203-half-armour/

https://www.outfit4events.com/eur/product/321-medieval-harness/

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>>34715444
>>34719607
If you're willing to spend a little more, 12th Century armor could be feasible.
You'll need:
>Tunic, pants, boots
>Gambeson
>Mail shirt
>A nasal helm or spangenhelm
>Mail coif
>A cloak to cover your armor
>A kite shield or heater shield
>An arming sword
>A simple spear or winged spear

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>>34715444
>>34719701
13th Century Armor is more expensive than the previous two, but it is my personal favorite.
You'll need:
>Tunic, pants, boots
>Gambeson
>Mail shirt
>(optional) Coat of plates
>A early greathelm
>Mail coif
>A surcoat to cover your armor
>A heater shield
>An arming sword or hand and a half sword
>A winged spear, voulge, bardiche, bill

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>>34715444
/his/torian here
Personally the sallet seems more appealing than the bassinet just because Gothic full plate is aesthetic af, but if you want something similar to the great helm but not only more protective and from a later period, try pic related- the 14th century sugarloaf helmet.

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>>34719812
The klappvisor bascinet is aesthetic as fuck imo.

>>34719812

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJ5rlhshvM

The American fighter has a sugarloaf.

>>34719786
Thanks for the info, that's also going to be my next choice if I can't find any decent plate armor suits that are cheap.

>>34719812
Do you see any helmets that are good on eBay here?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/Knives-Swords-Blades/1401/i.html?_sop=15&_udhi=80&LH_BIN=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_from=R40&_udlo=40&_nkw=knight%20helmet&_dcat=43217&rt=nc

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>>34719889
Sugarloaf is actually right on that page.
http://sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/media/armor/sugarloaf-helmet.jpg

>>34719955
Wrong link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/14th-Century-Medieval-Sugarloaf-Helmet-Knight-Sir-Henry-Percy-Carbon-Steel-/122608590352?hash=item1c8c0a9e10:g:bGoAAOSwr81UUSei

>>34717070
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_plate_armour
alot of high fantasy armor is based off it

>>34717260
the two on the left...
>those sabatons

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Best armor coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVTr9GU7rsU

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>>34717031
GAAAH!

>>34717049
Bad.

>>34717070
It tries to be this specific harness, made for Sigmund von Tirol, Archduke of Austria by Lorenz Helmschmid, ca 1484.

It doesn't do a very good job at it.

>>34717089
Why God, WHY?

>>34717126
A lot less painful at least, but it looks wide enough in the waist for someone well north of 200lbs.

>>34717260
http://www.armourarchive.org/ Mostly SCA-centric, but at least that means they need to be able to move in the harnesses, and we do see fully historical work as well, and a general acknowledgement of when SCA-isms get in the way of that.

http://www.armsandarmourforum.com/forum/ More on the antique stuff side of things.

>>34719688
Remains in the "less painful" camp.

>>34721280
I gave up/fled shrieking around the second helmet form the left, so I never made it that far originally.

Time for some more shrieking then.

>>34721950
Thanks, I'll go to those forums

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>>34721950
Bump for some info, I just found this SCA legal armor on craigslist, what do you think

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/spo/d/full-set-of-sca-legal-fluted/6236757884.html

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>>34721796
I love me some brigandine.

>>34724792
Too much money for something that might not fit. If you want white harness, get it made to fit you and get an arming jack to wear under it.