Shotgun for a newbie.

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Bamp.

Y'all are making me feel insecure.

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I just ordered this thing, its a $140 semi-auto shotgun, its cheep and comes smothered in cosmoline I thought it sounds like a /k/ slam dunk to me, anyone have experience with it?
found it here,
https://www.centerfiresystems.com/p-9512-sas12-12ga-semi-auto-detachable-magazine-fed-shotgun.aspx

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What is this, /b/? Do I have to post chicks for replies here?

its just preference between the two. on the low end models, theyre close enough for their differences to be negligible. i prefer the tang safety on the 500 but when i handled it in store, the hard guard was wobbly as fuck so i went with the 870. $300ish is the average price for a bottom 870, a little less for the 500. try walmart, they have great prices on these guns.

>>34714817
>he still can't take the hint

>>34714817
Who is this bitch fooling, ain't no way anyone wakes up with perfect hair like that.

>>34713947
The 870 has an odd release button. It's kinda forward too far. The Mossberg has it's release right there where your thumb naturally stays when holding the gun. Either is a good choice.

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>>34714870
Thanks mate. Walmart doesn't carry firearms down here, unfortunately. Big 5 is my best bet.

>>34714878
>Look! A giant cunt has appeared!

>>34714882
She only woke up with insecurity, most days.

>>34714870
>wobble
is feature
tolerant dirt
will function more
newer 870 no good
garbage QC
older ones take time to find

The aftermarket is great for both the 870 and the 500.
I prefer Mossbergs so I have a 590a1 and that fucker is built like a tank. I love it.
I also bought a cheap 870 express like you're talking about because it's a gun I can upgrade piece by piece over time as a project until i have a what's basically higher end 870 Police Model.
As budget permits you could:
-Change out the stock and forend with Magpul furniture
-Get a metal trigger group to replace the shitty plastic Express version
-Get a police Model bolt
-Add a Wilson Combat mag extension
-Get it Cerakoted

>>34713947
Barrel swaps on the 500 are easy as hell. 1 reciver abd i have 3 barrels sets gor it. (18", 28" vent rib ported , for trap, and a rifled slug.)

>>34714882
could be real if she did it up for the night before and then slept on it, it's not exactly impressive just some curls

>>34714806
theres a vid of someguy shooting it where it jams constantly. still for that price its worth it even as a single shot.
current 500s are built better than current 870 express. 500 will feel wobbly due to the design which may put you off. 870 can take mag extensions a 500 cant without replacing half the gun.

>>34714806
From what I've seen, you're in for a bad time

>>34715870
>>34716026
well shit, I hope that's just the "brake in period" supposable thy get more reliable after you run 100 rounds of high brass through it well I guess I will see what's what my self im picking it up this weekend. probably get it shooting by the next im still hopeful, or foolhardy im not sure witch.

>>34716167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAVpEU9Txg

>>34713947
fuck that ugly fudd shit, get a saiga

>muh bird hunting
go away fudd, u dont understand the 2A

>>34713947

Got a Benelli M4. Fucking love it. Quit being poor and you could own a decent shotgun, as well.

>>34713947
Benelli super nova
Mossberg pump actions
Avoid remshit like the plague.
Now fuck off

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>>34713947

Mossberg or (old) remington are good options. I really like the older 870 wingmasters if your'e into wood stocks. Anything pre-2007 remington is still good. If you want new, Mossberg all the way.

>>34716821
>mall ninjas complaining about fudds

I love /k/

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>>34713947
>posts an unironic 870 vs 500 thread.

Used: 870
New: Mossberg
unironically go on reddit to /r/gundeals and watch for things to show up

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>>34717994
Someone asks a question and you go all fedora on them? How much Mountain Dew do you have in your fridge, faggot.

Thanks for the babe, OP. In return:

>>34718370
it was Ice Cube that said that.

>>34714938

please leave

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Related shotgun question: How are Savage Pump guns, like the 67, 69, Stevens 320, etc? What are reasonable prices one should pay for one?
Pic semi-related, the edgiest pic of one I could find.

>>34716821
Yeah how dare people use their firearms for a practical purpose like hunting. Fuck those guys.

>>34720723
Savage 67's are about the only bad pump guns out there. I heard at one point they were decent but when the cut more costs on them, the were awful.


https://thefiringline.com/forums//showthread.php?t=385232 Sounds like 69's are similar guns to the 67's.


320's are newer chink shotguns, shou;d be fine but I'd rather have a maverick 88 or iac 982

>and yet another 870 vs 500 thread
How about checking the fucking archives to read the 3000 previous ones, OP

>>34720855
Alright, thanks. I was considering getting a Savage 320 for my Dad's first pumpgat, because of how cheap the thing is. And I thought the other two would be easy finds at gun shows, for the same purpose.

>>34720723
mediocre
150 at most
the extra 50 bucks on a mav88 or 870 knockoff is well worth it to avoid savage shotguns

>>34714806
>>34716821

Not a good choice for OP, since CA bans all semi-auto shotguns with the ability to accept detachable mags. With the new "Bullet Buttons are ASALT WEPPANS" law that just got passed this year, there's no way to have them in the state unless OP has a time machine, goes back in time, buys a (then) compliant one and registers it with DOJ prior to the cutoff date.

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>>34713947
Browning bps

>>34714806
One at a lgs I work at, cleaned it up, fed ok, but the extractor claw won't pull the hull out. Might be ok with some work, otherwise, pass

>>34720855
Had a 320 for a while now, about 300 rounds of 00, no issues, think they're good guns for the money

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>>34720930
>>34721123
Thanks for the input.
>>34721080
This, or the Ithaca 37 are my immediate shotgun recommendations myself. Top tier taste, anon.

>>34713947
DESU a light 12 gauge pump action is kind miserable to use after 50 or 75 clays. If I could go back and do it again I'd save up and buy a Stoeger M3000/M3500 or some other variant of that knockoff Berretta system.

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>>34721143
You

>>34713947
Hold them both. If you could shoot with both that'd be better. But if you can't just hold and aim them (with gun shop owner's permission). Whatever feels right is right for you. Fit is king.

>>34716821
Agreed. if u hunt but dont train for shtf, have a Bug out bag prepped and train 3 gun you are def just a casual gun owner. fuck off and lrn about the true meaning of the 2A

>>34716821
>people should only be allowed to own guns I like
Fuck off, YOU don't understand the second amendment.

Coach guns get my dick so fucking hard I wish I had a practical reason for owning one so I could justify the purchase

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>>34723068
Pic related

whats best shot gun for 3 gun tourney. im guessinf Saega or Benally? pls dont recommend fudd junk like mossburg or remingshit

>>34723451
Before calling anything junk you might wanna learn how to spell, Paco

>>34723518
fuck off elmer fudd

>>34723802
goodf luckm wif ur saega an benally I gess

>>34723812
You are angry that your trashy American junk is going the way of the dinosaur, the death of Gandor Mt store is a sign fudds are dying. Hopefully we can get a few fudd trash companies to close soon so we can finally get good shit like more milsurp, russian aks, G36s

>>34723843
No I'm angry because you wrote like a retard, I couldn't care less what brands you like or don't like.
The Mossberg 930 JM-Pro for example would be a great choice for 3 gun but you're so blinded by your mallninja fantasies that you'll see past that.

>>34723885
>Mossberg

fuck off elmer. ppl like u r ruining guns, go wear moss oak and shoot crap like .3006 or some shit that is ancient and ghey

>>34723925
>.3006
The best troll I've seen on here in a while, legit made me giggle

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>>34723925

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>>34716917
>anything pre 2007 remington is still good
Remington has been consistently shitting the bed since day 1. Pic related.

>>34720723
The 320 is solid. It's a chink clone of a winchester 1300 and takes a lot of parts from a 1300.

>>34723999
>malfunction means shit brand
I guess every brand out there is shit then

>>34724021
>critical parts failure in a basically brand new gun that got someone killed
>malfunction
Wut

>>34723999
Well you start running and we will see how long it takes for me to open you up with any 700

>>34724033
Yeah, metal parts break. It happens.
Malfunction means something not working, by the way.

>>34724051
Well if your 700 is as inaccurate as my Sendero SFII was, as long as i stay at least 250 yards away I'm safe

>>34724064
Yet Remington has more frequent and more severe failures than most other firearms manufacturers, and this has been consistently true their entire existence.

>>34714904
You only use the release to rack your first round. Not noticeable enough to even be a concern.Keeps your finger off the trigger also until you are ready to fire.

>>34724120
Thats a myth that applies to a few production years. The first decades of 700s were no better or worse than the other rifles of their age. A few snipers in Vietnam carried 700s they bought at sporting goods stores on Okinawa

>>34724012
>and takes a lot of parts from a 1300.
Stocks, forends, and\or internals? Might be worth picking up for this reason.

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>>34713947
Get a double.
>Obama related

>>34724275
Stock, bolt, mag tube cap, mag extension 100%. Might be more parts than that.

The super nova or nova are hands down better shotguns for 50-100 dollars more. They're the best cheap shotgun you can get