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>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

>>34710409
Wow, cool Krankuvv

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>tfw no baffle so my penis will fit all the way in better
gettin ready for some tight brakepucci

So at this point, what's the best 5.45 commercial load, given AKOU's most recent testing?

As far as I can tell they're mostly in the same boat, going Wolf Performance > Wolf Mil-Spec > Golden Tiger > Silver Bear, but they seem to be super close as far as actual performance goes (think like 1%-4% kinetic energy difference). I'm starting to think it may be a case of "just buy whatever's cheapest/you like most" which makes it sorta default to Wolf Mil-Spec and GT since they're sealed for long-term storage, but I'm curious to know what everyone else thinks/has experienced.

>>34710596

7n6, everything else is severally under loaded

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>>34710596
I always thought GT was top tier, but for 5.45 it's fucking wolf?

I haven't seen the video, but I've got 200 rounds of GT en route.

>>34710612

both are 150 fps slower than they should be

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Spud receiver, grandpa gave me all the parts. Waiting on plum zhukov stock and plum grip.

>>34710646

>screw build

>>34710646
>screwbuild
>fagpul
>crapco trigger
>AMD-65 receiver with a fixed stock rear trunnion
>fat hairless dye arms and hands with shitty tats
Holy shit, I hope this is bait.

>>34710657
First build, had skrew kit with parts, didn't feel like making rivet tools. Can always rivet later.

>>34710646
>Stupid tattoos
>Screw build
Checks out.

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>>34710664

>>34710612
GT used to be, now it's just a cheap(ish) and oddly loaded cartridge. In 7.62 it's hotter than most loads but inconsistent, and in 5.45 it's slightly weaker than Wolf (which is already 150-200 FPS weaker than 7n6) and also inconsistent.

Like I said though, someone on AKFiles did the math and found that in the grand scheme of things, these differences come out to about a 4-5% loss in KE compared to 7n6, and compared to each other it's something like a 1% KE difference with the exception of Red Army Standard, which is apparently just garbage. So this begs the question - does any of this matter enough to *not* just buy the cheapest ammo available, or should we still be buying Wolf Mil-Spec/Golden Tiger simply because it has the proper neck and primer sealant?

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>>34710409

>>34710715
That would be a good pic if you had a fucking cleaning rod. God dammit people .

>>34710657
>>34710664
>>34710679
are you gonna be ok?

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>>34710715
Here's some cleaning rod action bby

>>34710762
Meant for
>>34710740

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>>34710762
I got one too. Looks so much better

>>34710604
daily reminder that, with the exception of Tula and RAS, "commercial 5.45 is under-loaded" is a meme

>>34710706
this is correct
the velocity scales perfectly with bullet weight, a commercial 60gr loading at 2800-ish FPS has the same kinetic energy as 7N6 at 3000-ish FPS

>>34710706
this is correct

Also, Bob Sled is a sniper, so he judges ammo by the load consistency to the extent that he seems to pay little attention to FPS or environment/storage factors. I don't see a reason not to buy 5.45 GT or wolf mil-spec. With 5.45 imports standing on the edge of a knife, I prefer the ability to store for years (decades) if need be.

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>>34710664
First AK build. Shit was given to me by gramps. Chill your tits. Shit runs like a kenyan.

>>34710923
Screw builds are fucking awful, you seriously fucked up

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>>34710931
I build and fix things for a living. There's nothing about taking an hour or two to build a new receiver should i fuck it up. I don't mind maintaining things. You must not be mechanically inclined.

>>34710813

why did the old wolf poly get 2900 fps then ?

a 7 grain increase in weight shouldn't mean a 200 fps loss

anyone have experience with ordering from rusmilitary, as far as legality goes from what I can gather keep the price under 100USD and you are good to go.

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Check out my new norinco 93 SKS sporter guys.

Can it accept 75 rd drums?

>>34710967
>bubba thinks he's smarter than the engineers that design the AKM (and it's successors)
>y-you must not be mechanically inclined!

>>34710751
>everyone that calls me out must be one person
Lmao

>>34710664
*dyke arms

>>34710646
>Feddiefag

>>34710715
>>34710740
>>34710762

Hey guys, speaking of cleaning rods, I keep buying them and they keep breaking. The little part opposite of the threaded side keeps breaking off, most have a tiny spot weld holding them together, some seem to be pressed on maybe? Anyone got a good source on cleaning rods that won't break after a shooting session?

>>34710967
But srsly, my first couple builds were practice and even then I used rivets. Albeit, ugly, fucked up rivets but still lightyears ahead of fucking screws.

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>>34711141
You're honestly the first person I've ever heard of having such an issue. Both my rods are original ones from the time of purchase.

How good would 7n6 fuck a hog up?

>>34711165
Yeah, it's weird right? I've never seen it discussed before either. Seems like the recoil is popping the ends off after a hundred or so rounds. I think it's happened 3 times so far, maybe all freak incidents? 2 from original romy kits, 1 from Desert fox.

>>34711166
It would blow it to pieces. You can't hunt with assault rifles it's against the Genova convention.

>>34709723
Gib source.

>>34710470
That actually sounds painful

>>34711187
Ribbed for your pain.

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>>34710413
Anyone know anything about Lee Armory rifles? I kind of want that donkey dick...

>>34711293
buy a wasr and put a dong on it

>>34711308
Follow up question. What's the best deal for a side folding triangle stock 7.62x39 gun?

>>34711319
>side folding triangle stock 7.62x39
slr-107fr

>>34711323
>slr-107fr
They manage to fix their bubbly paint issue?

>>34711048
guys?

>>34711335
memes, finish is fine

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>>34710715
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>>34710762
I like your style buddy, and for solidarity I'll take my rod out as well.

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>>34710409
dumping pics of my new to me SLR 106-FR. I but new furniture and a russian sling on it and have modified a steel East German 5.56 Weiger mag to fit in it. i plan on testing it later this week and if it works ill probably get more of them. The only thing I need to do is reparkerise the mags after fitting them to the gun sense you have to remove a bit of material from the reinforcement on the front of the mag.

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>>34711379
The East German mags are actually a little smaller in size compared to the circle 10s. Roughly the same size and shape of an ar15 mag, and they easily fit in my ar mag pouches which is convenient.

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>>34711399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8K0sW8GX-4

new thread theme

>>34711379
>>34711392
>>34711399
>>34711407
Don't take this the wrong way, but everything about that gun looks incredibly bizarre to me, even though I know full well it would look perfectly normal to me with a 5.45 mag in it.

How much did you pay?

>>34711416
$800 for the gun 1 5rd mag and 5 30 rd circle 10s. $140 for the triangle folder, the Russian wood Bakelite grip, Russian sling, and East German steel 5.56 mag. I plan on selling the original black plastic furniture and mags except for the 5 rder, provided the modified east German mag proves reliable when I test it. I may also pick up a single Bakelite 5.45 and modify it for .223 just to complete the AESTHETIC.

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Dont have an AK, want an AK, dont know anything about AK's beyond the basic. I'm going to build it myself, whatever "it" is.
I want a "generic" build. But I can't decide between wood or plumb, russian/bulgarian/yugo, or 7.62 or 5.45.
I won't be modernizing it, I specifically want a semi-historically accurate build for the 70's to mid 80's. If I do build a second one later (no guarantee that I will), it'll be a sidefolding krink like in the OP.

What would you suggest (5.45 or 7.62)? How well do parts between Bulgarian and Russian sets swap? What are the differences between a generic Yugo and a Russian rifle (in terms of design not fit/finish) and can I swap furniture with them?
With potential new sanctions on the horizon, which ammo type would be less fucked?
Lastly, what was the standard rifle used to troops during the Soviet-Afghan war?

I want to listen to Kino and smoke Belomorka's.

>>34711048
newbie here, what sets apart a sporter?

>>34711669
You are clearly in way over your head.
Lurk more and learn all this info organically.
>Go into the archive and read all the /akg/s, there's more than a few.

>>34711669
>Dont have an AK, want an AK, dont know anything about AK's beyond the basic. I'm going to build it myself, whatever "it" is.
You don't want to build it yourself, trust me.
>What would you suggest (5.45 or 7.62)?
5.45
>How well do parts between Bulgarian and Russian sets swap?
For AK-74's? Pretty much 100%
>What are the differences between a generic Yugo and a Russian rifle (in terms of design not fit/finish) and can I swap furniture with them?
Completely different and no, you can't really swap anything out, Yugoslavia did also sorta's funky shit. Most Eastern European stuff has some level of compatibility with Russian rifles.
>With potential new sanctions on the horizon, which ammo type would be less fucked?
7.62x39 has more survivability.
>Lastly, what was the standard rifle used to troops during the Soviet-Afghan war?
A mix of AKS-74's and AK-74's.

>>34711709
>>34711711
I already have the tools and have put together parts kits before (Uzi's on the bed, VZ is off getting coated, DPM is tac'ed and waiting for me to stop being lazy, and a Galil is in the mail, also theres a pile of mauser barrels I need to get rid of.)

I am in over my head though, you're right on that aspect. There's a lot of nationalities and variants, which has whats been holding me back in the past.

>>34711711
>7.62x39 has more survivability.
any reason other than saturation?
>A mix of AKS-74's and AK-74's.
thanks, that helps to decide a little bit.

>>34711754
You're going to have to do a shit ton of research before you start building. Also to do it right you'll have to put down a couple bills on jigs at the minimum.

7.62x39 is made by more countries that we import ammunition from, like Romania. All the 5.45x39 we import is imported from Russia and there is no US made 5.45x39.

>>34710646
People that are posting hate are either no guns or no gramps.

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Interesting, apparently for GP-25s

>>34711835
My grandfather is long dead but if there's one thing he taught me, it was to do it right the first time and not to half ass it.
A screw build is the definition of half-assing it.
Your "gramps" must be a bubba like his.

>>34710646
The Zhukov stock is really nice to shoot. Super comfortable, you'll love it regardless of what almost everyone in this thread will say about its aesthetics.

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>>34711065
Tfw Mikail only had a 7th grade formal education and chose rivets over screws solely because he took mass production into account. You can call me bubba all you want, but I'm not the one picking the cheap soviet method that makes maintenance and repair more difficult.

>>34712016
That's what I've read and why i decided to go with it. All these shit talkers are plywood afficionados. Lol

>>34711893
Side button recoil rods?

>>34711893
They're all significantly different, prototypes?

>>34712464
That baseplate will be too narrow to fit on a 7.62 mag

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>>34712522
Thats where your wrong, chimps. Fits my 7.62x39 103 mag just fine.

>>34712543
Sheeeeeit I thought I remembered them not being compatible. More power to you

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>>34712548
Im stoked now that i have all the correct parts for my mag. Its only costing me $60.

>>34710657
>>34710664
>>34710679
I understand the difference between screws and rivets but is there really anything bad about screw guns or is it just a meme?

>>34712570
They blow up or come apart. Aks are meant to have rivets, no exceptions.

Is there a 100 series rpk 7.62x39 magazine?

What's the deal with half moon 74 muzzle brakes? Are they any good? Who makes them (country)?

>>34712625
>bulgaria
>russia
They are about the same as zigzags

>>34712576
Purist bullshit. Red loctite rectifies the vibratory movement

>>34712644
>kek
Have fun with that.

>>34712644
Lel.
Enjoy those hardened screws shearing off because they have no elasticity like leaded rivets do.
That rear trunnion will feel great when it implants itself in your face.

>>34712691
Cite evidence, faggot.

Best place to buy AK bayonet? I kind of want one with the Bakelite sheath, but everywhere I look they're sold out.
Does it really even matter?

>>34712715
>your gay
Is thay evidence enough?


>>34712722
Ak files. What kind are your looking for?

>>34712730
Looking for a type 3, but if I have to I'll settle and buy a type 2.

>>34712741
Ah, so your looking for milled bayonets, akfiles would be your best bet.

>>34712591
Not that anybody knows of. They just use 40 round bakes.

would a bulgy ak74 bayonet fit onto a WASR?

>>34712824
Are RPKs still in use in Russia or have they been mostly replaced by the RPK74M? I know they've still got AKMs kicking around and in use but I've never really paid attention enough to look for RPKs

>>34712824
>ribbed or slabside 100 series 40rnd rpk mag.
Muh dick would be diamonds.

ALERT ALERT ALERT

Anyone who does NOT have a cleaning rod on thier ak, is a huge faggot. It is an absolutly necessity that the rod is present on the rifle. No exception.
>this means you mak90s

>>34712075
Um, you're wrong you fucking idiot.

>>34712906
>mak90s are unbannable
News to me.

Cite evidence, faggot.

>>34712929
Same to you. Show me where this has happened.

>>34712855
psl reply

>>34712951
>not uncucking your mak90

All my what.
Why would they bot be unbannable ?

>>34712965
Yes.

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>>34712906
>tfw you are a faggot because you don't have cleaning rods on 3 out of 5 of your aks
But seriously, if you've got the equipment to have one on your ak, it looks terrible without it IMO.

>>34712952
Screws will shear eventually from the force of the recoil. Leaded rivets are used just for that reason.

https://www.desertfoxsales.com/Romanian_AK_accessory_set_p/dfs-623.htm

is this a good deal?

>>34713118
IMO, yes. It's not super cheap, but it's not a rip off. I'd call it a fair price.

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>>34712969
Being this retatded

>wake up, check /akg/
>someone unironically defending screw builds
i need some coffee

>>34713000
>he fell for the 1 in 300 spartan meme

>>34712075
This is funny. Hello young child.

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I have recently decided that I am in the market for a mid-tier underfolder. Little research so far has yielded me with a few options. I know I shouldnt ask, but could you help in shaping this decision-making a little? Im in the under $750 range and under $800 shipped and including a $25 ffl fee out the door. Here is what I have gathered so far:

Century arms milled and stamped AKs seem to be hit and miss. No one knows what trunnions are used and their shitty caste ones are the guess. They also seem to have canted sight and other issues that some claim have been "worked out". Much like WASR, it depends on whether its an early made one or newer one.
Yugo PAPs seem to be good. I have heard of the least number of issues with these. Although I have a lot more research to do. These seem to be in most the cheapest and often on sale.
I.O. produces top of the line dogshit for low prices. Theyre made by complete fuckmonkeys and shoild be avoided at all costs. The make century and taurus look like H&K.
Romi builds from various no names are found from time to time. The compete in price with the PAPs which kinda worries me. However they are Aesthetically appealing to me.
Blackheart I cant seem to find much on, from what I am finding is they are similar to Lee Armory, just without the price tag. Both are made with hungarian parts kits and I have read Blackheart has top notch finishing.

I am sure I am missing some. Any suggestions are accepted. Right now Im leaning towards a PAP or Blackheart. Possibly a Romi if I can look it over.

>>34713188
IO?

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>>34713224
Seriously one of the best gun purchases I've ever made.
>would fall for again, if I'd fallen for it
I couldn't figure out wtf these spartan references were about when I was showing it off the first time. Someone had to fill me in on what that "spartan" thing was about and show me one of those ads.

>>34712858
I'm not sure RPKs are still in use to any extent, RPK-203s do exist but haven't gotten anywhere near the attention as the RPK74Ms

>>34713268
GP 1975 Sporter. Got it about 5-6 years ago not knowing anything about AK's. I just wanted the dong grip. Nice gun though, not a single problem with it.

>>34713265
Get a WASR or Mak-90, be patient.

>>34713305
The mak90s are like $1500. And does Wasr even make an underfolder? Patience is no problem with me

>>34713291
You really dont see pictures rpks in 7.62x39 a whole lot in combat to begin with.
>somebody post pictures of rpks in use

So if Russian ammo gets banned what rifles are you all planning to switch to?

I've got two ARs in parts and I want a scar, but I'm waiting on something definitive regarding the extent of new sanctions.

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>>34710409
Since we're on the subject.
For raw penetration vs softer steel, 223 penetrated double what 60gr 545 did, and the 545 did double what 762x39 did.

>>34710715
I'm copying this

>>34713347
Mak-90's are no where near $1,500, try closer to $600-900 on an average day. A Pre-Ban 56S is around $1,500.

WASR makes an under folder, yes but that are harder to come by.

>>34713350
I will buy the fallout of people dumping their 5.45 stocks in fear. No worries on this end, yet.

>>34713386
Please cite me a mak90 underfolder for $600-900. The cheapest ones I can find are between $1400-$2000 with the exception on bubbas homemade underfolder in gunbroker for $600.

>>34712591
100 series = Izhmash, RPK = Molot so no

>>34713350
Cuck

>>34713222
>Sleeping past 7am
This is why old people call you lazy. Enjoy your frap.

>>34713350
I'll not switch or get rid of anything.
I'll shoot my 5.45 a little less than I do now, but I'll still shoot it.
I'll shoot my 7.62x39's a little less than I do now, but I'll still shoot them.
I'll shoot my AR's a little more than I do now.

It will all even out.
And maybe I'll pick up a VEPR for cheap from some dumbass that didn't stock up on ammo and panic sells.

I want a SAM7 underfolder. Are underfolder really that uncomfortable?

>>34713350
Nothing, I'll still keep buying and shooting AKs. I might shoot them a little less but I'll still shoot them

>>34713350
Shoot my AK's less. But I'd probably build the most Gucciest KAC build.

>>34713566
My AKs will be getting greased up and put away for a while. I enjoy shooting them but I'm not going to burn through ammo cans without a way to replenish them.

Hey guys redpill me on Norinco SKS' are they worth a damn?

>>34713607
But isn't the gucciest KAC build a factory build? Same with LMT. The whole point is that they're unnecessarily expensive.

>>34713654
Purchase one of the stripped lowers and an 11.5 upper for a pistol build.

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>>34713350
I'll shoot mostly of 308 and 12ga through my aks, which has mostly been more/less the norm anyway. That's just the most fun stuff. 12ga and nato rounds are going nowhere.
My 556 ak will be fine obviously be A-OK.
And 762x39 will still be all over although I'll be pissed that I can't get more golden tiger, but I've got . I'll have to go looking and see if anybody else has a nice boat tailed bullet.
And I've got about 7k rds of 545x39, mostly 7n6, so I'll be ok there for decades at the rate I go through it. And someone else will make it or import it long before I run out.
My main worry is 54r since I only have a few thousand rounds and kindof enjoy it, but I'm sure it'll be commercially available from plenty of places before I'd ever have to worry about running out.

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>>34713350
Muh sig, muh AR15, muh surps, muh pistols

>>34713350
Suicide.

>>34713851
>tfw no Sig to revert to when Russian ammo is ban

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>>34710715
>thats a boner
dongs with triangles are dangerous for my blood pressure

>>34713868
Just sell your crayonblaster already and buy one

>>34713868
One way or another I must gots to chop. The specter of 5.45 kill is pretty disheartening, it would definitely take away from the fun I have shooting, doesn't get much better than an obzor on a 74

>>34713910
Fine, looks like I'm making another trip to ARG

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>>34710813
>Bob sled

>>34713423
My bad I misread the underfolder specification, you are correct.

>>34714020
Why did you even buy that AR anyways

>>34711669
If you want to do an easy Soviet Afghan invasion style ak. Just grab a Bulgarian SLR-104 and you can throw on a 4.5mm triangle folder without any modification. The AK74 wood took a bit of hand fitting, but at least it's a tight fit. And has no rattle.

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>>34714020
You really gonna sell it to fund a Sig and not more cool AK stuff?

>>34714075
>sig
>not a cool ak stuff
?????????

>>34713650
Yes they are good. Make sure you pay less than $400 for one

Ok gentlemen, I am about to purchase some ammo online for my 5.45 and I was wondering what everyone here uses? I feel like ive seen its mostly Golden Tiger but is there any particular reason? Ive shot a little GT, SB and RAS and all cycled fine and im not sure I noticed a difference while shooting so I was just inquisitive as to what and why since I plan on getting about 2k rounds of whatever I end up buying today.

>>34714059
Cuz I wanted an AR

>>34714075
Nah I'll probably use the proceeds to buy a boat or maybe a strip club. Finally gonna make it big

>>34714083
You know what I mean, like more cool clone builds and stuff

Don't get me wrong the Sig is really cool

>>34714117
Combine them into one and I'll strip for you under your employment on your strip boat

Did you buy another AR or is this the same one you've got he's talking about?

>>34714141
Whenever I sell it I actually want to use the proceeds to buy something more expensive than I would normally be comfortable buying. Like an SVD or one of the new Sig (SAN) imports or an SP5K. Or maybe even a milled PLO kit/build. Like a type 2 AKS or something cool.

I assume he's still talking about my LWRC because I haven't bought a new AR or anything.

>>34714086
thanks for the advice anon!

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Just bought some sweet czech camo.

>>34714173
>SAN
>SVD
>SP5K
pretty much exactly what I was considering

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Yes that's tapco had to make it 922r compliant.
>it's the only regular stock I had.

>>34714173
A type 2 would be something really cool and also really fitting for your collection too. That makes sense, save up what you can for something really cool and out of your price range and put that money aside until you sell your M45 to make up the rest

My advice would be to be smart about it, don't blow it on a lot of dumb little things that add up. I had a friend inherit some valuable stuff which he then sold and was gonna buy a fancy car but he kept buying little things saying "it's only $100, I can afford that with this money" and stuff like that and sure enough he blew it all on little dumb stuff. Before you sell it decide what you want with the money and set your mind to it

>>34713560

You do realize different time zones exist right?

>>34714317
not all of us can have a measurable IQ, lay off him

Anybody have experience shooting Hornady Black SSTs? They're a bit pricey but the quality seems high.

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>>34713350
Just gonna go back to my AR, probably. I went and shot mine for the first time in a few years yesterday and forgot how enjoyable it was, gas blowback aside.

My Scorpion will be getting plenty of love once the Form 1 gets back too.

>>34711339
You will have to sand down the stock around the sides of the mag well to get it to accept the drums. Mine also required minor filing on the rear of the drum for it to take it.

>>34713350
Gonna get into the long range game. I'll build a semi-custom rifle and git gud at that.

>>34714420
good to know, thanks for the help anon

>bought WASR on gunbroker on Wednesday
>send seller payment information on Friday
>not a single email since then

hmmmmmmmmm

>>34714362
HD/SD ammo. Not for plinking

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Endless packages

>>34714502
Are you endlessly hoping you score the right stuff?

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>>34714477

but don't start sanding until you get the drum mag and test fit it. you don't want to take too much off.
mine didn't require any sanding for a drum mag.
I don't have any pics of it with a drum mag, but it's really cool looking.

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>>34714477
Here's mine. I took off a little more wood than I should have, but the cool factor is worth it in my opinion.

>>34710646
Nice tat, idk about screw build, but at least swap to a better affordable trigger, red army standard or alg. At least you're not AU faggot scum.

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>>34714556
Holy shit dude!

>>34714502
>sitting on so much gun money
>it all has to go to a new car
Sometimes I just want to get a shitbox and buy a TIGR or do some 100 clones instead

>>34714568
I like it a lot, and it shoots well enough. I tell people it's my chinese Tommy gun. Lol

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>>34711450
I have an SLR-106CR that I would like to find a triangle folder for. I'd like to put wood on it too but we'll see. As for the bake 5.45 mags, I thought that didn't work because of the curvature of the magazine?

>>34714499
Perfect I'm stocking some as my oh-shit ammo

>>34714544
>>34714556
Thanks guys, I'll keep your examples in mind. I love these sporters, so cool looking.

>>34714603
how's the accuracy downrange? Looks like you've got the 16.5" barrel an short gas system does that affect it much?

>>34714647
It shoots as expected, nothing to brag about. I haven't had any issues out of it other than the occasional failure to eject when I first shot it, but those stopped after cleaning it.

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How do you like this goys

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>>34714696
Needs more colors. Paint that dust cover red.

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>>34710645
60 grain v 52 grain.

>>34710612

the tests just further proved how shitty 5.45 is in the u.s market.

>But much 5.45 is half a MOA more accurate then 7.62

not with that horrendous velocity spread it isn't.


7.62 ammo was much more consistent, wolf mil spec 7.62 had like a 12fps spread.

>>34712464
Where did that plate come from?

>>34714786

ak103 mag plate

When are SLR104FRs coming back?

>>34714786
A saiga 5.45 10rnd mag i have.

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Fucking Klimovsk, if this safe to shoot?

>>34714846

Discontinued due to low demand, so never.

>>34714866
No, it's just another one of Arsenal's schemes.

>>34714853
Its fine. Ive shot plenty like that.

>>34714689
Hey I'm not asking for 10 pt groups at 100 yds but if I'm on paper I'd be happy

>>34714853
What's Klimovsk?

>>34714871
Doubt it, probably shelved the 5.45 jigs and opened up floor space to crank out more 7.62s

Does anyone have any pics of 5.45 AKs in military or irregular forces use outside of Russian/former Warsaw Pact countries' use? Like in Africa or the Middle East or just other places where it'd be weird to find them?

>>34714919

5.45 isn't popular not the global scale, only main user is russia, Ukraine is in the process of dumping 5.45 and going back to 7.62x39

>>34714935
That doesn't mean they're not out there though. A year or so ago I was watching a doccumentary on anti poaching groups in Africa and there were a group of guys armed with what appeared to be 74Ms

>>34714935
>Every ex-Soviet country
>Poland (at least formerly)
>Romania
>Bulgaria (at least formerly)
>Syria
>North Korea
>Vietnam
>Cyprus
>Iraq (Polish sold AKs to them)
>Finland, Turkey, and ex-Yugo countries (East German surplus)
>China makes them commercially
>Possibly some special forces of African countries

>>34714614
>triangle
I may have a triangle if you are interested also a wood HG set. 5.45 mags I hear work if under loaded to around 20ish due to the curvature.

>>34715155
Doesnt Romania use 5.56 now?
>Ex-Yugo
Wat. Serbia? I dont think they ever used 5.45.

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>>34715155
>polan
>5.45

>>34714902
Ammunition plant.

>>34714173
Do RPK top covers fit on regular AKM and AK-74 pattern rifles?

>>34715369
>not knowing how to read
And yes, Tantal.

>>34715483
>including ((((((formerly)))))) to pad out your shitty list

>>34715497
Not my list. That makes you wrong twice.

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>>34715504
It really makes me think.

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>>34715526
Not to hard obviously

>>34715551
>not currently used by Poland
Still shouldn't be on that list.

>>34715441
Dunno I can test it around 8pm though. I think it probably works but there may be an interface problem with the selector lever.

>>34715305
Nope, only special forces. Main Romanian troops in Afghanistan carry 5.45x39 Pm. Md. 86 rifles with wood dongs.

>>34714317
Nope, everyone in AKG lives in WA, TX, or AZ. It's been scientificly proven.

>tfw you did the math to show most commercial 5.45 is not under loaded but people just don't want to accept it

Why did I even bother

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>>34715699
>forgetting FL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>34715155
Ruling out random surplus floating around from the soviet collapse.

Poland and NK are the only other countrys using 5.45.

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>>34715699
So does that mean I'm not here right now?

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>>34715719
S-sorry. I knew I was forgetting a state.

>>34715579
>>>>>>>Poland (at least formerly)

>>34715674
Did those 556 rifle prototypes from a few years back ever come to be?

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>>34715699
Texas reporting in

>>34715810
List of users of .30-40 Krag
>United States (at least formerly)

>>34714919
Hop into the Syrian threads, the Russian intervention has spread them around that place.

A lgs near me is closing and they've got some of those century imported ak shotguns for ~400

Should I consider one or pass on those?

Guys based Kazakhstan will start exporting 5.45 mark my words

>>34715854
Well you arent wrong

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>>34714531
Oh it's all the right stuff, I have big plans.

>>34715965
Plz based Kazakhstan I'm ready.
>visa doesn't expire till my passport does.

How long until we know whether or not Russian ammo is getting banned?

>>34715699
OR here, also know a guy who browses in ID

>>34716063
>owns a gun
>not allowed to pump his own gas

>>34715699
Too bad the people of akg in WA will never meet because they're too spread out.

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>>34715670
Ok!! Thanks chimps-san.

>>34715854
Yes because a rifle caliber the US totally ditched 114 years ago applies to this the same way a rifle and it's caliber the Poles largley 12 years ago and still keep some in storage does.

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>>34715441
I'm pretty certain they do, but I don't know if I'll get a chance to try it tonight before chimps does.
I know the bolt/carriers, recoil spring, mags etc fit perfectly between my 556 rpk and ak-74. I don't know if I did ever swap the dust covers though.

>>34716056
Some time in the next two months most likely. Once Trump signs the bill he has to designate parties affected and the applied sanctions within 60 days, and the sanctions go into effect 180 days after the date of signing.

>>34716231
It would leak out. A couple days before 7N6 got banned James Yeager was talking about it on YouTube. Bless him as I bought 25K at 15-16cpr.

>>34716078
Ironic isn't it? I can't be trusted to not light myself on fire at the pump but can walk out of the hardware store with an AK same-day

>>34716461
It's less a competency thing (seriously, pumping gas is the lowest job on Earth) and more about jobs creation so the dipshits that run the state can claim they dun good.

Is there anything that vented gas tubes do for recoil or operation?

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>>34715441
>>34716154
it fits

>>34716631
Not on an AKM or AK74 and their derivatives as the vents are part of the gas block itself

On original AK47s and Chinese AKs (maybe others but idk for sure) the gas blocks didn't have vents and the vents were part of the gas tube itself

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Finally done!

>>34716523
fucking Liberals.

So glad I'm moving to Boise in a month

>>34716740
Kilo guns?

>>34716397
Post stash please

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>>34716666
Sick! Thanks.

>>34716906
I have before. Some of the namefags can vouch for me. It's not in one location at this time.

>>34716841
Yup, Wyatt is an awesome guy and his shop is top notch. Have you had any work done there?

Why are the Krebs and Rifle Dynamics on the do not buy list?

Also are Arsenal SLRs gone forever?

>>34717011
I need a rear milspec trunnion for my 100 series clone friendo.

>>34717004
The fug already made it there??? USPS on point.
Post mold number for other two FSB. Also emailing you about a thing.

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>>34717026
Forums or Russian lottery, email for hookups.

>>34717030
Yea I was kinda surprised

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>>34717006
Ya he kinda fucked me on my saiga.
>ask if all conversion parts will be bulgarian.
>puts polish akm retainer on my 5.45 saiga
Just...

>>34716397
>Bless him as I bought 25K at 15-16cpr.

Can I get one round from you? I'll paypal you the price of a stamp.

>>34717026
I have an extra. If you're interested drop a burner.

>>34717100
>>34717135

What's ur guys burners? I need to make a new one.
Would it be correct for a 104? I've only seen the civi versions lately.

>>34714614
They can only hold 5 or 6rds. Thats why I'd only get 1 since it would be just for looks.

>>34717176
Just get an East German .223 bake

>>34717165
[email protected] yea you can get a milspec.

>>34717135
Gib lol

>>34716111
Are you able to fold the stock somewhat with that optic attached? I may get something similar for my SLR.

Is there a reason rguns separates their 68' and 69' kits?
Are Tula AK's of vaguely better fit and finish than Izzy's?

>>34717220
No they are worse

>>34717165
[email protected]
>>34717205
Uuugh really lol? I'll sell it to you if you want, but i know I can't charge much cuz your KANG powers >.<

>>34717206
yeah, but it stops at about 30 degrees from the fully closed position

it's easy enough to just remove if you want to fold the stock for storage

what is your endgame? something more modern or classic?

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>>34717206
Side rail optics are QD but you can't fold with the optic on

>>34717220
>Tula
>Better fit and finish than Izhamsh ever
lol

>>34717220
Tula is the nice friendly guy of Russian small arms manufacturers

>>34717320
>>34717231
so its just scarcity and a soviet star tax then?
good to know.

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>>34717296
this is my rifle currently
>>34711379
>>34711392
>>34711399
>>34711407
I was thinking about throwing this on it,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CGI46O/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1AQ8YEED9N0J2&colid=YQWPDCRBBU4R

I have the 8x model on my vepr and love it.
Or maybe one of those boxy looking collimator sights.

>>34717354
I've heard mixed things about that bipod, how do you like it?

>>34717354
>POSP
>Fulfilled by Amazon

These are truly great times we are living in.

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>>34717394
>posp
>getting some belarussian garbo
:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>34717393
>>34717393
It works well, I didn't want to mod the gun so I just backed out and then locktighted the sling stud screw a bit and it fit right on. Its been secure and stable when shooting and when supporting the sling on my shoulder during innawoods/hunting time.

>>34717422
>belarus does not make the best dedicated AK optics

>>34717446
>"what even is an npz"

>>34717354
Just warning you, my 8x42 broke after a spam can, just out of warranty.
Some lens by the turrets is loose, you can hold it a certain way and it'll focus, until you move the gun again.
The sad part is that I'd been getting 2 distinct frustrating groups for quite a while but had no idea that the scope was slowly falling apart inside. So it was way more frustrating than just having it break.

>>34717482
Thanks for the heads up. mine has been shooting fine and holding zero well, but I've only put a few hundred rounds through it

Fuck got the pin stuck on my 107FR trying to remove the poly stock.

>>34717552
Pics

>>34717552
how? I literally just tapped mine out with a punch and hammer in like 2 seconds.

>>34717574
Stock is off. Pin is stuck. Should I hammer it back down then try again?

>>34713586
They aren't great, but not as bas as a wire folder.

>>34713616
Why grease and not oil? Legitimate question.

>>34717608
Post pics.

>>34713650
I've got a genuine milsurp Norinco. Thing shoots great, and feels very solid.

>>34717444
thanks and checked, I'll check it out

I heard that the SLR 106 uses standard akm sights and that the ramp is different for the change in drop from the different caliber. Is this true, and if so can I install these sights on my slr?

https://www.amazon.com/Meprolight-AK-47-Tru-Dot-Sight-pattern/dp/B0012Z60CE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1501548222&sr=8-4&keywords=ak+sights

>>34717683
Now why would you go and do some domb shit like that

>>34717115
>akm retainer
Well that is unfortunate, did you ask for compensation or a fix? Did you send him the OG Bulgarian parts and he mixed them up with a Polish part?

>>34717694
in order to get night time functionality from my ak without drastically changing the look.

>>34717736
>get ugly nite site
>still can't see what you're shooting cause no light
????

>>34717748
Ten do you have a recommendation for a night sight that looks better?

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>>34717761

>>34714619
>Buying sst
>Not sticking up on 8m3

>>34717736
Get a microdot and a flashlight...

Does anybody know where I can get my hands on a 4.5mm folding plum stock, or if there is any paint or dye that I can apply to a black stock to make it look like a plum one?

>>34717797
you're not wrong about that being a good practical choice but I don't want to ruin the AESTHETIC of my rifle setup
>>34711392

>>34717789
8m3? plz redpill me wise anon

I bought two Romanian RPK's (AES-10b) a few years ago for $400 ech. Should I keep em or sell em for more guns

>>34717914
$400 each! How?

Also post pics.

>>34717946
delet, if I can't have it no one can

>>34717856
8m3 is a half decent russian projectile not nearly as good as SST but since it's russian it must be better.
the only redeeming factor is 8m3 is way cheaper than sst.

>>34717952
Some website, jgsales I think. I don't have them with me.

>>34717856
meme military ammo

>>34716666
>Checked
You order from CrazyUkranian or whoever his name is on AKFiles too? Just got mine today.

>>34717024
Because, they are very over priced for what they are. They don't do much to them to warrant the $2000+ price tag. That being said, they are very good rifles, apart from RDs bolt on gas blocks. If you can, get a Definitive Arms AK, very high quality, on par with RD or KC, but a few hundred to several hundreds cheaper. I own one of their older DAKM-4150N rifles, smoothest feeling, straightest AK I've held.

As for the SLRs, I have no idea. Someone with more knowledge could give you input.

>>34717952
There was a period where a few places were trying to just dump their stocks, I remember when PSA had them for like $459, cheaper than a WASR, the only "meh" part is that they didn't have the bipods.

>>34717959
Low quality b8

>>34718065
nope. it's a decent projectile but not as great as slavaboos would make it seem.

>>34718056
If they're otherwise identical I'd say sell one. You can probably get more than what you payed for both for it, and use the proceeds to buy the bipod for it and whatever else tickles your fancy.

Two question guys.

How do you feel about 5.45 and 7.62 when it comes to aks? Pros/purposes of each cartridge, plentifulness/viability as main rifle cartridge especially in a shtf scenario

And what are the best ak models available for each cartridge for american to get?

I'm not very familiar w aks but I think I might prefer them to ars rn

I got the pin out. Now I can't the stock lined up to drive the pin back in. Fml.

>>34718127
> shtf scenario

just kys tbqh famalam

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>>34717710
I had them source the parts.
>this is where i fucked up.
I did ask if they were going to to use bulgy parts though. The other issue is the cut the perpendicular channel on the barrel too wide so the handguard is loose. Compared to azex the kilo dissapointed me.

New thread

>>34718161

>>34718161

>>34718161

>>34714720
Hay gente aqui que hable español?

>>34718113
Not the guy that has two

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Anyone here able to help find what exact make this optic is? Trying to find a value

>>34711048
magwell is probably too deep
could if you relieved the stock (get a new replacement to do this)

>>34718804
They're worth $350 new you're welcome.

>>34718012
Nope, just stole it from my vepr-1v.
Got no interest in parts kits and building.
Factory easy or forget it, no time for screwing around.