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Australia moving to ban NERF and Gel Ball guns

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>If we end up in court the decision will be at a federal level, and therefore effect EVERY entity that wants to import these types of items. So, I’m asking publicly for such interested parties to contact me directly about how they can support the cause.

>Much of the legal argument thus far is based on how gel balls are propelled out of the toy, there is conjecture about springs and plungers and what defines "soft-air" in the legislation as it stands.

If the AFP/Customs argument wins, then guess what also gets banned along with Gel ball guns. NERF.
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The hell is going on over there with you Australiabros? You guys lost you're damn minds?
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>>34709196
seriously what the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>34709278
>seriously what the fuck is wrong with you people
penal colonists
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>>34709196

>Australia

dear god what a fucking disaster zone
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>>34709196
Goddamn, that is quite the conundrum.
It's a fucking soft rubber tipped foam dart being propelled by a puff of air, you absolutely cannot get more "soft-air" than that.
What the hell Australia
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I thought they had banned a number of nerf guns years ago?
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This has to be some kind of joke, right? Right?
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>>34709196
What the everloving shitfuck, Australia? Stop shitposting for one god damn motherrubbing second and call your useless excuse for an MP and tell him he's full of pigeon shit if he thinks banning goddamn NERF guns is a good idea.
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>>34709196
I think we all know there's only one real solution here
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>>34709365

Yeah, but even if we somehow managed to steal Oprah's dildo, how would we get it into Earth orbit and position it over Sydney?
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YES, BAN THEM! BAN THEM ALL!

Then maybe people will start to wake the fuck up in this fucking country.
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>>34709196

just nuke Australia and start over
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I think they should enforce the ban using only Nerf guns.
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>>34709397
Brits already did, it didn't work.
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>>34709315
Not quite, but they do have restrictions on power. If you have a Nerf blaster with a gray trigger, it is probably an Australian specification blaster with a weaker spring or lower power motors.
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>>34709403
Then we may finally have the legendary Aussie Nerf Civil War.
You may take my foam dart blasters over my gently bopped body.
Vive le resistance!
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>>34709403
>>34709427
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How did brits and aussies get so cucked? As much as I hate those who shill for gun/knife controls, I can at least understand why they shill for tougher laws even though they're clearly not working but I have no idea how you get to the point where you start considering banning basically anything that resembles or theoretically could be used as a deadly weapon. Who is even pushing for this kind of stuff? The same people who think violent video games and rap music are the cause of all evil?
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you fucking austrailians can't fucking win a war againsts a bunch of big birds 2nd cousins and now you are banning toys.

what the fuck is wrong with you roos?
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>>34709534
Middle class NIMBY Baby Boomer faggots, and no political support for the alternative. America has political support for guns, we don't.
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>>34709383
You gotta call the experts
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>>34709196

I fucking hate living in this country sometimes.
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>>34709365
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>>34710155
>only sometimes
Shiggy diggy
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>>34710155
Careful anon, you posted a threatening picture of a gun on the internet. I hear that can get you arrested these days.
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This is a good lesson for everyone. The government takes one gun and then they take them all.
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>>34709365

the final solution
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>tfw no nerf license
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>>34710295
Healthcare and the lack of niggers is probably the only thing it's got going for it these days tbqhfam.
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>>34710306
>license
>s
Seppos out reee
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>>34710439
The healthcare system is fucking shit for anything but the occasional hospital visit.

t. chronically ill
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>>34709365
Good times in 0079.
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>>34710439
>lack of niggers
Aren't abos just as bad?
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RIP New Zealands retarded brother.
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>>34709534
Australia has an insane safety fetish/nanny state. It's not only the Government that does this shit, 98% of the population support it as well.

Look at the lockout laws in Sydney for example, destroyed entire industries, chased millions of dollars out of the local economy, killed the entire nightlife of the city, thousands of layoffs and hundreds of businesses closed.

Like 90% support from the population, despite statistically violence per capita in the areas has actually gone up.

NIMBYism and Safety fetish is driven into Australians from preschool.
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>>34710476
Technically they're worse, but they make up so little of the population in developed areas that you hardly ever see them.

The worst you can say about them really is how many taxpayer dollars they soak up through the numerous support programs put in place for them. It's a total waste because they don't actually seem to benefit from any of it; abbos refuse to be civilized.
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>>34709196
I guess they chose nothing
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>>34709196
Australia is going to become post-apocalyptic (without actual apocalypse) monarchy with government controlling pretty much all of the technology while most ordinary people live in medieval society.
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>>34709427
I would actually love to watch this. Police, criminals, everyone, just using nerf guns to rob stores, settle disputes with nerf duels, etc.
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>>34710313
This.

Give the lib anti-gunners a foot in the door and you'll be at their mercy. I'm already pissed that even in the US it's considered horrifying to some parents if you buy their kids a fucking $10 nerf gun or plastic cowboy pistol for a birthday present, and elementary school kids are getting suspended from school for possessing a nerf dart or chewing a pop tart into the shape of a gun. This shit needs to stop.
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Firearms Act 1996.

http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/1996-74/current/pdf/1996-74.pdf
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>>34710439
>healthcare
>no niggers

your commie healthcare sucks a gorillion dongs and your abos are so degenerate you have to lock up gasoline so they won't sniff it.
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So how long until the Queen Huntsman awakens from her thousand year slumber and devours every man, woman, and child in Australia?
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>>34709196
It's your own fuckin fault. You're the cunts that surrendered your right to self defense and firearms ownership after one little tragedy.

I don't feel bad for you at all.
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>>34710439
The Healthcare system is fucked for anyone who needs more than the occasional emergency visit.
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>>34712557
those fuckers invaded my dads shed last week
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>>34712843
So the answer is soon.
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Thank god im Canadian,
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>>34713465
Being Canadian sounds just as worse
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>>34713747
he could be british
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>>34713747
>Get your pistol license
>Also get to own SBR's because liberals are just that fucking dumb.
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>some madman opens fire with an assault nerf
>run away
>as high velocity gel balls whiz past you suddenly realize you've forgot to log your jog
>get fined
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>>34713747
Nah, we can still get an impressive variety of guns, and our laws can be retarded in many cases, but are so loosely enforced that it's a joke. Seriously, I live out West here, and you either like guns or are mostly apathetic. People just don't think about them.
>And the old farts who have money have the most insane shit hidden away, it's unreal
We're not like The Land of The Free, no way. But we're not as bad off as people think.
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>>34710652
I'm finding that the further along we go, the less people are happy with this nanny state shit, the issue is that the safety fetishists are mostly the previous generations, which outnumber those who actually want Australia to go back to before Port Arthur.

Current day University students are still majority left leaning as always but Australia has a large enough manual labour/farming community to counter them.
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>>34713813
>jogging
>helmet
is this real?
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>>34713813
Australia has a fuckload of stupid authoritarian bullshit laws

But for some reason this shit puts me over the edge. Is it because it's just so fucking stupid and pointless?
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>>34709406
i thought that was aum shinrikyo
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>>34713946

It's fake, thank god

https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/no-helmet-no-run-sign-creates-confusion/3136914/
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>>34713813
Ha!
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>>34709196
Source:shitposting news agency
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>>34709365
OPERATION BRITISH WILL COMMENCE AGAIN
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>>34709196
Man aussies have it bad
>no guns
>get cucked airsoft guns
>get cucked nerf guns
>fuck all that shit ban them all
No wonder why they shitpost, only fun thing left to do
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>>34709196
>>34709241
>>34709278
>>34709354
Nothing the state of New Jersey hasn't already done.
NJ
>sling shots are firearms
>nerf guns are firearms
>paintball guns are firearms
>bb guns are firearms
>airsoft guns are firearms
>blowing through a straw, likely a firearm
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AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE
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>>34714821
Source?
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>>34713960
we cant kill jamal for breaking and entering
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>>34714797
we have to wait 6 months for our funs license
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>>34714821
>airsoft guns are firearms
>nerf guns are firearms
>paintball guns are firearms
Nope. But good humor anyhow. The other two are correct.

>>34714920
http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/062408_title13ch54.pdf

Gaze and cringe. Page 4-5 for definitions.
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>>34716934
Do your homework, kid.
https://www.morristowncriminallaw.com/bb-guns-paintball-guns-and-airsoft-guns-n-j-s-a-2c39-5b/
>It is hard to believe, but BB guns, paintball guns, and Airsoft guns are considered prohibited weapons in New Jersey.
>If you do not have a valid firearm permit or firearms ID card allowing you to carry one of these items, you could endure serious legal problems.
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>>34714821
>>34714920
>>34716934
>>34717190
Playing paintball was considered assault in NJ for a while before the guy who opened the first paintball field in NJ took the state to court.

http://topgunpaintball.com/history/
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>>34709365
BOMBER HARRIS, DO IT AGAIN!
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>>34717190
That's quoting the lawyer, not the law itself. As >>34717921 said, paintball, and I presume airsoft, are legal(ish). G The law is so vague however that it could consider your arm n a rock a firearm if you really wanted to bend it.

Example of places with airsoft. https://www.google.com/search?q=new+jersey+airsoft&npsic=0&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=40754191,-74472300,28432&tbm=lcl&ved=0ahUKEwiIu_f38rTVAhXBYyYKHfmkAekQjGoIXA&tbs=lrf:!2m1!1e2!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:10&rldoc=1
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>>34717921
cool I've been there
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>>34717921
Praise gook paintball god.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VywwuiIKBlU
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>>34713813
>Aussies have to file a flight plan and wear helmets to run
Jesus christ, you don't actually need to file a flight plan to literally fly in the States. What IS this shit?
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>>34712925
Kumoko best spoodera
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>>34710921
This is why private schools are a good thing
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>>34721267
Eh, or teach your kids to avoid being liberal. That's what my parents did for me. Or maybe I did that to myself.
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>>34709196
Looks like ATF got the memo, but passed it on to Straya.
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>>34714082
>It's illegal to be in possession of more than 50kg of potatoes in Western Australia.
Lmao
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>>34721684
Western Australia also has lower percentages of people of Irish descent than the eastern states.

...COINCIDENCE?!
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>>34709196
>working in a toy store over christmas
>hot as fuck
>someone comes in asking for present advice
>has 2 nephews, brothers, looking for a present that they can play together with/get them outdoors/beat the heat
>suggest a dual pack of these dope water pistols
>lady gets all excited, "thats a really good idea thank you so much"
>about to walk to the counter to pay
>"oh wait their mother hates guns, wont let them have it"
>walks out with a pack of shitty plastic dinosaurs that will be forgotten about after christmas day

fucked me up
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>>34713813
>thisiswhathappenswhenyoudonthaveanyguns.jpeg
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>>34712843
>>34712925
woke up to a big fucker crawling up my blanket
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>>34720856
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>>34718192
>That's quoting the lawyer, not the law itself.

Keep reading, kiddo.
>Under N.J.S.A. 2C:39-1, BB guns, paintball guns, and Airsoft guns are considered “firearms” in New Jersey. Charges such as possession of a handgun without a permit, unlawful possession of a weapon, and possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose can arise even with an item as minor as an Airsoft gun. Second degree charges in New Jersey can result in between five (5) and 10 years in New Jersey State Prison. These charges also have a presumption of incarceration (even when the defendant has no prior criminal record). This means that if you are convicted of possession of a BB gun, you will be going to prison. Moreover, the Graves Act applies to firearms offenses in New Jersey and requires mandatory jail time and parole ineligibility even for first-time offenders.
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>>34721838
Here's the link to the actual text of the law - since you're too lazy to read I assume you can't be bothered to look for yourself:

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2013/title-2c/section-2c-39-5

>b.Handguns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any handgun, including any antique handgun, without first having obtained a permit to carry the same as provided in N.J.S.2C:58-4, is guilty of a crime of the third degree if the handgun is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person. Otherwise it is a crime of the second degree.
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>>34716885
But that's wrong. I waited like 2-3 months.
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>>34721722
Fuck that's bad. When I was doing a film course, we weren't allowed to have guns in it. For literally no reason. I asked why and they couldn't actually give me an explanation. Cunts.
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>>34709196
What pisses me off about Aussies is that they're always willing to play up "rough 'n' ready outback culture m8" angle to impress normies and tourists, but when push comes to shove 99% of them live in Sydney and are so terrified of anything fun that they're literally trying to ban nerf guns.
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>>34722094
You think there's some sort of public outcry over Nerf guns or something?
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>>34722094
Country people are, but the cities and suburbs is fucking degenerate. The disconnect between the two is crazy, and there's a lot of animosity towards "city folk". Probably because the cities are awful.
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>>34712557
>camera focuses on the spider's face
kek
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>>34722146
Well yeah it's in the middle of the screen, doi.
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>>34721684
I dont remember the specifics but it was something to do with one guy having a potato monopoly once.

Potato law in WA is very important apparently.
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>>34722215
he had to apologize to a court for growing too many potatoes
children are starving all over the world, and this man had to apologize for growing too much food
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>>34722237
>children are starving all over the world
Not because there is a net lack of food though. We've pretty much solved that issue, the problem today is because of weak governance.
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>>34722237
>Yfw Galati the absolute madman gave away his potatoes for free
True australian hero
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>>34722247
>the problem today is because of weak governance.
Corrupt governance*
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>>34722094
>Eastern states
Some of them are alright but in general if you're east of SA the populace is pretty awful.
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>Fuck Airsoft
>Fuck paintball dressup larpers
They're nothing to do with actual guns or gun-rights.
The Barn in Oakey is importing and selling OAFs.
SFF is already polling ahead of the Nats one day after the Cootamundra bi-lection is announced.
>Fuck playing with plastic wanktoys
Get out and buy more real guns and fuck over the gutless cunts and the NFA
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>>34722247
or in this case, unintelligent governmnet

really tho i was just using the term as a point of exaggeration
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>>34709196
They had good reasons to ban guns.
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>>34709278
>>34709241
Elites and government are beyond scared here. They know they've got a few years to a decade before powers change radically as AU falls under east asian influence and economy collapses. When can't control the big things, control the little things.
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>>34721731
Did you get sum succ tho?
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>>34709196
>Aussies btfo
Those cunts can't say shit about any countries. Holy fuck banning nerf guns.
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>>34722358
>Get out and buy more real guns
You can't shoot people with real guns you retard, nobody is buying airsoft guns to replace real guns.
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>>34721838
>will be considered "Firearms"
>Items in question do not involve combustion in any way
This has gone beyond uncertainty, fear, and misinformed good intentions. God help us, we have reached a point where some of the legislators dictating the lives of millions have below-third-grade reading comprehension.
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>>34722010
I mean, maybe they wanted you to be more creative with weapon choices or something?
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>>34723424
>>34722010
>Not filming a balls-out action movie entirely with boomerangs
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>>34721684
>Australia is anti-capitalist
>to the point where they will monopolize potatoes
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>>34720856
>tfw your base airport is within the DC SFRA and you have to file a flightplan and wait for your own specific squawk code just to go up and toodle around for an hour.

At least we're MOSTLY free...
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>>34724730
>DC
Jesus, just base out of somewhere in Virginia or some shit and save yourself the horror. Worth the drive. I wouldn't touch DC airspace
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>>34723151
Reminder: no prerequisites required to hold public office.
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>>34721722
My mother wouldn't let me own nerf guns when I was a kid. She let us get squirt guns though. Completely defies logic.

**Everyone in my family owns rifles now. Maybe those squirt guns were gateway guns afterall.**
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>>34709291
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>>34722761
it got some shoe
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>>34726648
damn son thats rough. nerf guns definitely helped my transition to loving guns
the lever action nerf ripoff gun that ejected shells and fed from a magazine probably had a big part in it
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>>34727169
>killing the Huntsmen
un-bloody-Australian!
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>>34713813
That's even more nanny than laws here in the UK, wow. Don't forget your reflective vests.
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>>34709600

Zeon did nothing wrong
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>>34727203
It had its chance to live in harmony, but it fucked that up for itself
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>>34721971
>I waited like 2-3 months.
Lucky you. I'm nine months and still waiting.
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>>34731184
There's a joke about babies in there somewhere
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>>34731248
Actually, there isn't.

I'm infertile.
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You faggots can't even begin to understand how retarded some of these people are. I work at an arcade. Some parent's won't let their kids get the cheap little green toy solders. What the fuck? And then, to top it all off, they aren't allowed to have candy, so since the only thing cheaper than the toy solders (For 5 tickets), is Tootsie Rolls for 1 ticket, they can't even spend all of their fucking tickets.

That isn't as sad as this one kid that we had a birthday party for, though. His mom didn't let him have:

-Pizza
-Ice Cream
-Icee (We offered, as an alternative to the Ice Cream)
-Soda
-Candy
-Toy guns

We ended up feeling real bad for this kid, because he had to sit there and watch all of his friends get all of the above.

Fuck, I've gotten sidetracked...
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>>34712557
Seriously...with spiders like those, Australia should be the one place on earth where carrying a pump action or semi auto shotgun with extended tube is not only normal but also an expected thing.
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>>34731428
You got more stories anon? You've piqued my interest.
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>>34731429
Those are harmless, and they eat all the shitty bugs.
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>>34731443
Some of the fucking people we get, you wouldn't think would be legally allowed to walk around without a Helmet, let alone drive to the fucking place. I usually work on the Go-Kart track outside, and I swear to god some of these people drive me to homicide.

Seriously, how the fuck can you have a 30 year old guy that can't figure out which pedal is the break? The kind of stuff that I see makes me really worried about driving anymore. Not only do you have people slamming both feet on the gas and break at the same time when you start the race, but then you have the total fucking idiots that come into the pit area full speed, lift their foot OFF of the break when you tell them to slow down, and then slam a 400 lbs machine into their daughter's go-kart at 20 mph. And their excuse? "I didn't know what you meant by 'slow down'"

I. Am. Not. Even. Fucking. Joking. that was an excuse I heard last week.

And then you have some fuckwit that, 5 seconds after seeing someone get rear-ended, get's out of their kart, WHILE THERE'S STILL PEOPLE COMING IN! What the fuck are you gonna do when your ankle get's shattered because you got in between your Go-Kart and some dumbass barreling in like a bat out of hell? Not walk away, that's for sure!

And I'm not even scratching the surface of stupidity that goes on at work...
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>>34731428
rofl all whites are so weak it's laughable.
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>>34731486
>assuming people's ethnicity based on a description of events
That's racist, you fucking boong.
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>>34709196
suddenly living in ca does not seem that bad
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Sometimes my country...
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>>34709365
SIEG ZEON, SIEG ZEON!
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>>34731582
you know you're going to end up that way, right?
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>>34722358
which fou admin is this
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>>34722280
>WA has the worst gunlaws in the country

they all have their plusses and minuses but QLD seems less insane than many.
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>>34732212
SA gun laws seem not entirely insane, I think airsoft is even legal there.

But yeah, Western Australia is fucked up. Same with home chemistry laws, all kinds of laboratory glassware is illegal, although not as bad as Texas.
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>>34732217
sounds like we both have stockholm syndrome and somehow think "its not that bad where I live" hah. I mean I do like the look of the OAF and I'll have my pistol license in the next month but the whole situation still shits me to tears. And the fact you'll get most aussies sitting around jerking it to Jim Jefferies gun control propaganda and calling americans "free-dumb ahar har" doesn't give me much hope.
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>>34732291
Oh no, I live in NSW, which is decidedly shit. But I did live in Canberra before, which is even fucking worse; I actually moved over the border to get my gun licence in a slightly less shit jurisdiction.
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>>34731428
>>34731482
>at the birthday party of a good friend in elementary school
>it's a nice party and everyone's having fun
>but the food is kinda funny tasting and his mother keeps giving everybody funny looks
>i know that she's a literal fucking hippie but i keep my trap shut because Felix is a good lad
>later on cake cutting
>everyone has these straws in their drinks that have a folded paper ring around them that looks like an orange slice
>everyone's eating, then the birthday kid starts plucking the paper thing apart
>his mom is suddenly behind him and berates him for "tearing that apart, you know that we only bought that because of your birthday party, it's not biodegradable!"
>mfw
I still cringe for my friend to this day. He went into computer programming, whodathunk? Gotta get high tech to rid yourself of the granola girl stink.
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>>34709196
what's the issue? get h, a and b, c, r...etc licence
>muh nerf
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>>34732300
Are you a poof?
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>>34732332
Are you hitting on me?
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>>34732419
i will be hitting you if you come to queensland, cunt.
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>>34732422
I already live in New South Wales, why would I want to make my situation any worse?
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>>34732427
being ravaged by a cyclone is better than being ravaged by china.
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>>34732430
I don't live in Sydney...
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>>34732435
does it matter? the rest of the state will be bought by the PLA in a few months.
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>>34732437
Like I give a shit, have I not made it clear how low an opinion I have of this place?

I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords, they might even relax the gun laws, hoping that us filthy gweilos kill each other.
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>>34732455
why not fucking leave then, poof?
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>>34721278
You probably did it to yourself. Plenty of kids get out of the house and immediately start swallowing lefty crap.
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>>34732483
No country would take me.
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>>34732493
this here cuntry of queensland will though, provided you're capable of swallowing your pride and not swallowing cock.
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>>34732500
Like I said before >>34732427
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>>34732509
oh what, are our antiquated and primitive ways too much for your ACT nobility?
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>>34721743
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>>34732514
No, it's your shit laws and the fact that you're not a fucking country.
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>>34732522
how are our gun laws shit?
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>>34732526
They're Australian gun laws, of course they're shit you knobhead.
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>>34732291
>Jim Jefferies gun control propaganda and calling americans "free-dumb ahar har"
I love the show Wilfred, but FUCK Jim Jeffries. Now he has his own propaganda program on Comedy Central, where yes, all he does is berate America as a country for literally everything and anything.
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>>34732606
>Wilfred
...Jim Jeffries isn't in that though...

Do we all look the same to you, fuckin' racist?
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>>34732212
Yeah its shit but you can make it work.
I'm going through it now and what really shits me is how much cheaper it'd be for me to just cop some milsurp but trying to find somewhere to fire the fucking thing is absurd.
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>>34721684
The govt group in charge of all that was killed off a few years ago, it was a retarded thing from the great depression that they kept around for some reason
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Is there any hope for Australia/Europe? I was looking at the French guns thread and there's only one organization in the entire country that actually supports the right to self-defense with a firearm, and it only had a following of a few thousand. I couldn't even find a similar organization for Australia. Are you guys just fucked forever now?
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>muffled didgeridoo in the distance
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>>34735090
For some reason the populations are more interested than ever in owning firearms, but the governments are more interested than ever in restricting. Sooner or later something will give, in one direction or the other.
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