PLA 90th anniversary parade

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Anyway, words have it that the first operational J-20 regiment will make a fly by with a few planes.

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Tonks.

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Lotta Ballistic Missiles.

>>34696790

Why would China mobilize against India?

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Communist military aesthetic works really well for parades desu.

>>34697172

I'm confused by this too. Did they not recently enter into some kind of military cooperation treaty? If they would have to mobilize against anybody it would be the US.

>>34697172
Shit is very serious this time. The Doklam border dispute is unlike any other dispute before.
Masses of PLA have already moved into Tibet and India has already built bunkers and mined the area that they have occupied on the Chinese side.

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>>34696790
TFW you will never own a QBZ-95

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DF-31AG ICBM confirmed. This thing is new.

New TEL, bigger missile with longer range and MIRV.

>>34697204
How did we get here?

Basically China 'builds a road' (actually, repairing and upgrading an existing road) into the typically messy border region to Bhutan, who is a vassal to India (seriously, Google it. India has invaded Bhutan in 1970s and since then made them a de facto puppet state after a 'referendum' essentially at gunpoint).

This status has prevented China and Bhutan to hold negotiations about border demarcations. All rounds of Sino-Bhutanese talks have been vetoed by India. Now, India intervenes on Bhutan's behalf to stop Chinese road construction by sending troops.

For China, this is a direct invasion of their territory. China proceeds to build the road and remove Indian makeshift bunkers that they have already built there. India responds by activating 150k troops of their mountain strike corps. China is massively mobilizing as well, sending artillery, tanks and missiles to Tibet, as well as their Airforce.

They are delivering an ultimatum, demanding withdrawal of the Indian troops. India declines unilateral withdrawal and wants China to withdraw as well, as well as stop road construction. China declines, as this would mean that they gave to destroy the road completely, as it was already there for decades and is now only being broadened and maintained.

Bhutan, the entire time, is scared the shit out of having two great powers fighting a war on their soil.

>>34697367

India's grunts will be fucked because of the shitty INSAS. I'd wager that any conflict would turn out to be a curbstomp by the PLA, but I don't know what kind of hardware India can field

>>34697367
Need to add that for India, shit is also very important, since Doklam is part of their "Chickens Neck" which is a very narrow land corridor connecting mainland India with their NorthEastern Provinces. If China cuts that neck, India is cut in two half's with Bangladesh in-between - a country that doesn't really like India either and buys masses of Chinese weapons.

>>34697367
But Bhutan is independent and there is no source I can find that proves that any referendum was held "at gunpoint". What you're saying seems fishy.

>>34697410
Geographically and in terms of manpower, India has the advantage there.

But I think technology wise and logistics side, China has the bigger stick.

>>34697367
>India being a belligerent twat

Are they trying to impress the UK or US or something?

>>34697207
Move to Canada

>>34697501
Google Indian occupation of Sikkim and putting their King into house arrest. Also, Sikkimese monarchy referendum 1975.

>>34697501
It's not fishy since it justifies China as the honorable party.

>>34697501
Bhutan is a 'protected state' by India since the treaty of 1949. They aren't independent, as evident of the impossibility to independently hold border demarcation talks with China.

The border in that entire region is all fucked up due to the Brits, who drew them arbitrarily back in the time.

>>34697567
And how is this related to Bhutan.

>>34696790
Those are some seriously skinny fucking soldiers

>>34697553
That's a QBZ-97, why would I want another 5.56 bullshitpup? If it's not in real 5.8x42mm what's the fucking point?

It begins.

>>34696790
Man, it would suck to be a part of that. They must have had fucking MONTHS of dog and pony show bullshit drilling to prepare for that crap.

>>34697204
>>34697367
Is it strange or bad that I kinda want this conflict to happen if just to destroy Indian ego?

>>34699299
I think it would be interesting because for once it wouldn't be the US curbstomping people. We'd actually get to see two very large and very rich countries go at it. So many questions:

Does India actually have an ammunition deficiency?
Will Chinese C4 stand up in a real conflict?
How will the armies perform once contact has been made?

>>34699434
Chinese logistics would collapse under the strain of major actions, severely limiting their offensive potential and not allowing them to bring their numeric advantage to full effect and showcasing their organizational flaws. Fancy technology would be pushed to the front, and initially be flashy and extremely effective, but when put under stress, the support units that been almost entirely overlooked by PLA modernization programs would be forced to triage between the fancy new toys or the more common equipment. The ultimate decision on this would likely be coming from officers making a political choice, rather than effectiveness. On this note, unit morale and cohesion would be a huge issue as the conflict progresses as their NCO corps are largely absent and high brass are mostly completely lacking in actual combat experience. Political ambitions and career advancement motivations would likely supersede reports of reality on the ground.

Indians would be in high spirits, and if fighting a defensive/just war, would put up a hell of a fight at the squad, platoon and brigade level. However, Indian organizational dysfunction would likely prevent a decisive defensive victory, to say nothing of their equipment's effectiveness or the logistical interoperability challenges from their history of sourcing foreign equipment from just about every seller on the planet meaning.

If it isn't over fast, it would be long and bloody as most potential flashpoints are going to be in rather inhospitable or mountainous terrain, and either side would likely be prevented from major escalation due to the risk of nuclear retaliation.

>>34699434

India has as many people, but nowhere near the same economy. India also has more ethnic problems with their core population and not as many autistic ultranationalists.

China outspends India 4 to 1 on defense, which is going to create some force disparities.

>chinanumber1
How do you think NATO, The US, and Russia would react to the conflict? We all know Russia dabbles within the affairs of both India and China..

>>34699783
Russia can't afford to intervene in any meaningful way. They were forced into playing bitch boy to china internationally when the price of oil tanked and their petroleum export based economy tanked. They would probably try to sell hardware to India as the Chinese would likely try to rely on indigenous manufacturing, barring that, they'd probably sell oil to the Chinese.

NATO would say "Not our fucking business" because they're having a pretty gnarly internal debate over their mission and if it extends to preventative actions in the Pacific and China because of the risk of US involvement (who is NATO). Hillary was one of the biggest proponents of NATO taking an active role in the Pacific and Chinese containment, but she's gone, so who fucking knows now.

The US would likely preach for de-escalation, but not overtly pick a side, as India hasn't exactly been anything but a neutral party to the US, and China's positioned itself as an adversarial superpower. Noncombat observers at most, because seeing the PLA and PLAAF (and potentially PLAN) in actual combat is super valuable intel.

>>34699893
I'd really like to see how my native country fairs in a(n) (un)conventional war. Im all about freedoms but when youre a chink, and china hasnt done shit for a few decades combat related, you really start to get curious. Do we know if China has finally adapted to using plate carriers and what not? Russia finally caught on a few years ago and some troops even use AR's or non AK platforms. Not to mention overall infantry training with their eco being so shit.

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dumping PLA(N/AF/) stuff

>>34696790
>war mobilization against India

t. Paki

Sweatshop vs. Tech support.
It's some type of weird "bitches of the west" intramural conflict.

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Not knowing the specifications of the upgrades it looks like the Chinese equivalent the Leo 2 armor upgrade packages.

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new chink camo named Type 15 Camouflage

>>34699299
No it's not bad
China, do Canada next

>>34700578
>china attacking a chink colony

?

>>34696790
@1:04:50+

>those rifles bouncing like a giant vibrating dildo

Probably better than India's service weapon though.

>>34700596
Every time they show a QBZ firing it's knocking the gook all over the place.

How much recoil does their 5.6 have, anyway?

>>34700625
dont bullpups tend to have worse recoil because of the layout

>>34700596
Looks like one of the older models most units should of upgraded

>>34700647
no

>>34700567

coming soon to a gear queer thread? or at least one can hope.

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>>34700625
This >>34700647 but probably they aren't trained enough to manage recoil. And they are malnourished from having rations mainly made of plastic excrusions

>>34700667
just use the american version that isn't a cheap knock-off

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>>34699299
We haven't had a proper war between two (reasonably powerful) nation-states in a while, I'm morbidly curious as to how such a thing would turn out.

>>34700647

More likely because the typical chink is a 5-foot-nothing manlet with no upper body strength.

>>34700690
China will win but it won't be nearly as clean as they want.

>>34700699
probably, the region seems like a terrible place to fight logistically speaking

>>34699299
India is in a pretty shit spot. Pakistan would jump on any opportunity to dick India, Bangladesh doesn't like them and if they got involved then Chicken's Neck would in trouble which would cause India a bit of strife. On the other hand the US and UK would probably try to help India as China has established itself as a rival power. As entertaining as it would be, both sides have major structural and logistical issues to overcome and both have nuclear weapons, so it probably wouldn't escalate too far.

https://twitter.com/On_TheBounce/status/870941515958423553

>>34700718
Youd think the country who subsidises being able to ship obscure electronics anywhere in the world within a week would have a better supply chain

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There doesn't seem to be that much protein in a PLA ration and while I can find a few pictures of Indian rations I didn't see any videos on youtube after a quick search.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qss-8kSbZpM

>pic is Chinese type 99 near NK border back in January.

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>>34700731

China's border with India is mountainous it is going to be hard for both sides to resupply troops but IF China were to take it further and go for an advance into Indian territory it wouldn't be a quick process by any means.

That said I don't how good China's paratroopers and air droppable armor/equipment/etc is.

>>34699636
China wouldn't collapse under the strain so much as be slow to come forth. China has dealt with massive disasters involving earthquakes and mudslides, yet manage to get logistics to those locations. Chinese logistics would be basic and crude, but utilitarian.

As for unit cohesion and moral, this is too much of a problem. With an almost homogeneous culture and background among all, they aren't likely to give up so easily. However effectiveness is another question. Overall think of them to Russians with less tech.

Indians on the otherhand have far worse logistics and rarely are capable of dealing with natural disaster, no less escalating war. Military units could barely handle a handful of fighters in the city, no less decently equipped army. Sure there will be those who will try and withstand the tide of war, but most would desert at the site of first blood if not less so.

On one final point, aircraft. China outweighs India plenty on that.

>>34700985
>this is too much of a problem
Isn't that is.

nice little exercise video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJFG-hvwPFA

>>34700551
look at that det cord. Talk about dog shit designs.

>>34701136
whats wrong with it

>>34701144
it has it

So Imperial Guard vs India?

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http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/whats-driving-the-india-china-standoff-at-doklam/

>>34696790
>actual war mobilization against India
Pleeeease, Kek, let this be true!

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>>34701613

Imperial guard vs nurgle more like

>>34701694
>link
quality post. does anyone have topographical maps with a plot of all three countries claimed borders on them?

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>>34701898
I found this, but it isn't quite what I was looking for.

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>>34701930
larger map for context. India is reeeeing because of the perceived threat to that real skinny part of India between Bhutan and Bangladesh which the chicoms could steamroll from the high ground North of Bhutan in only a matter of days.

>>34699719

The vast majority of China's military spending increases have been on equipment and infrastructure for fighting in their coastal population centres, and the South & East China Sea's against the USA, Japan, RoK, Australia, and ASEAN. While India is definitely behind China, it has focused a greater proportion of what it has on the Northern borders, so I reckon they could catch up with China in a Himalayan confrontation faster than you think, since they don't need to worry about their seas and coast in the same way China does.

>>34699299
I hope it happens just because I'm bored. Ww3 when?

>>34701992
It would indeed be WW3.
India + the west + korea/japan against China.
Only question is what would Russia do. Probably sit and relax as both the poos and the chinks ask for military equipments for their SU27/30, especially engines for the chinese and missiles for the poos.

People talk about equipments in this thread, what about combativity ? I personnally believe the chinese soldier never shown any particular quality in that field. The indians however...
Same goes for homogeneity. The chinese hans seem homogeneous, but they despise non-hans, however in India Modi wants to partially end the caste system, and such an event could be a great motivation for it.
So my opinion is this event is saber rattling and nothing else.
If it happens I hope there will be at least some Rafale in the IAF though, so we can watch some J-10s and J-11s getting buttfucked.

I also hope it would be a wake up call giving the signal to the great withdrawal from China and come back in Europe for all the western industries relocated in China over the last 3 decades.

>>34701830
Hahaha

>>34699636
I don't want to sound overconfident but isn't India completely fucked as a military itself? I would think Indian logistics would be fucked as well considering they have a shit ton of different types of equipment to feed and there doesn't seem to be any news(that I've heard of) of them modernizing their logistics unlike China which at least tries by developing and increasing the number of transport vehicles as well as developing its navy. I would think China can sustain a war that's as close as this, it's not like it's going halfway across the world. If anything it'll devolve back to having people actually ruck supplies across mountains like WW2 and Korea.

I have no doubts Indians will be in high spirits but probably to the point of overconfidence. From personal experience dealing with a lot of Indian people they are stupidly proud and admit no fault and think everyone is lesser to them. I think this will bite them in the ass. Also I have no real idea how Indians train. From what few pictures and videos I've seen it's mostly action movie acrobatics and "unique" tactics. China is guilty of some of this too but seems like they have an actual pr division and actual training division separate of that.

>>34702092
Don't China and Russia have more friendly relations now? Kinda got each other's backs geopolitically even though China buys less and less Russian stuff as it's tech sector advances. India from all I've seen doesn't seem like a long term investment in reliable purchases since they'll stop halfway to develop a half assed indigenous system fuck it up, buy Russian again maybe western stuff and then repeat.

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J-20 HMD confirmed.

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>>34703157

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>>34703163

>>34697567
Sikkim =/= Bhutan

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Dayum.

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>>34697207
Theyre fun. Safety is in a shit spot tho

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J-16 with PL-15 and PL-10.

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>>34697714
>wanting a snowflake round

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>>34703227

>>34703187

is the Type 99 the Fiero body kit of tanks?

>>34702961
>India from all I've seen doesn't seem like a long term investment in reliable purchases since they'll stop halfway to develop a half assed indigenous system fuck it up, buy Russian again maybe western stuff and then repeat.
India is financing the russian PAK-FA.

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>>34703314
that hurt me more than it should've

question though: how does air superiority look like between the 2 nations?
Who has better pilots and better equipement?

>>34703615
*was

>>34700567
Literally US multicam, wow.

>>34703171
>>34703163
>>34703157
Until it's actually confirmed by a non chinese military source it's not confirmed. The same goes for everyone.

>>34703751
*ocp

>>34696790
how much of airpower can they deploy to the border
most of chinas airforce is located on the pacific coast
is it possible that we will see naval combat
would pakistan join if china attacks india

>>34699434
If I was China I'd just send a bunch of weapons/comms gear/night vision gear to the Naxalites & train up a some of their folk in bomb making/demolitions. Why invade a country when you have a whole army already there. Wait until half of India is burning, then maybe tip the wink to Pakiland that Kashmir is theirs, hell give them the chink portion as a bribe if necessary then hit the remaining bordertroops and secure the new/recaptured territory, I guess Bhutan would have a 'sponaneous uprising/ change of govt' round about the same time.

>>34700567
>>34703751
There a source? I would think China after having developed it's own camo wouldn't go back to copying especially if it might get into some fight with u.s. or u.s. allies. I would think it's just for SF use which is no surprise.

>>34703990

This man knows.

>>34696790
Can't believe you are dumb enough to fall for the CCP propaganda.

Warmongering is just to make Xi look strong before the CCP congress meet in September. Xi wants to make himself an emperor, his power already surpasses that of Mao, and he will not leave office after 10 years. He will stay until he dies or is ousted.

>>34704669
Everyone knows this a anniversary military parade of PLA which is already scheduled by CCP long time ago. There is nothing to fall for regardless what your tin-foiled paranoid statement is true or not.

>>34704738
The congress meet of the CCP is going to be at the end of this year.

5 of the 7 members of the standing politburo who head the CCP are going to retire and be replaced by Xi lackeys. The last two members are himself and the president who is already his puppet.

Xi has been eliminating all opposition to him including the youngest up and coming members who were intended to be his successors. Xi is setting himself up for more than a 10 year term, one that is going to be indefinite.

>>34704669
Having a anniversary military in their own soil is not what warmongering means.

There is only one country in the world actually is constantly and endlessly warmongering, invading, bombing other countries which is US of A.

>>34704812
I've heard (I know nothing about Chinese internal politics btw) the power struggle is between xi and people who want to deregulate the economy, and the military who want a return to the older ways. Would these new guys essentially allow for the economy to become more open then?

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>no girls marching
NO CHICKS, NO CARE

>>34704812
Still it has very little to do with this mere military parade. Most folks are just here to see the soldiers, weapons, tanks, equipments....etc. Not concerning your power struggle bullshit.

What the hell is up with all the poos coming out of the woodworks to talk shit?

>>34703713
Pretty much China across the board.

India's ace in the hole is their 250 Su-30 MKI's. Everything else they have is too old, a joke, or both.

China has a similar number of J-11's, which are Su-27 derived and should be less capable than the Su-30 MKI's. What tips the balance is the China's fleet of J-10's, which India doesn't have a counterpart. The Tejas is much lighter and less capable. India would be better matched if they bought the Rafales as well.

>>34705281
what about AA ground support?

>>34696790
>ctrl c, crtl v: the army
I know they're trying to be badass but I just can't stop thinking someone needs to tell the server admin to use some different units.

>>34705235
It's India's 5cent army vs China's 5cent army.

>>34705281
can you or anyone with more knowledge in combat aircraft rate these for both countries:
china:
>Chengdu J-7
>Chengdu J-10
>Chengdu J-20 (too few in numbers dont think they will risk it)
>Nanchang Q-5
>Shenyang J-8
>Shenyang J-11
>Shenyang J-16
>Sukhoi Su-27
>Sukhoi Su-30MKK
>Sukhoi Su-35S
>Xian H-6
>Xian JH-7
india:
>MiG-21
>MiG-27
>MiG-29
>HAL Tejas
>Mirage 2000
>Sukhoi Su-30
>Dassault Rafale
>SEPECAT Jaguar

>>34706906
>>Dassault Rafale
were those ever used in battle?

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>>34696790
That image looks like someone took the spray can tool in PS and shooped one guy into an entire regiment

>>34703209
>Safety is in a shit spot tho
You aren't supposed to fidget with the safety.
That's an American thing.
Safety should be OFF whenever you are using the rifle.
Safety should be ON when you let go of it.

>>34705281

On the plus side for India, the J-10 is short ranged, China doesn't have a very big tanker fleet, and it has nowhere near enough airbases in Tibet to support its vast numbers of lightweight fighters close enough to the border to overwhelm India. By the time they do, India should be procuring domestically a proper single engine fighter (F-16V or Gripen E) in large numbers rather than continuing to hobble their air force to shovel government money to HAL for the Tejas.

>>34701830
Top kek

>>34703772
Wtf? Are you retarded?

>>34704669
Retard

>>34704822
You have a problem with that? Long live the Empire bitch.

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>>34697367
>two great powers

>>34707040
Never understood the safety obsession. I think it's because it takes another step in the process of "reacting to contact" and "engaging targets," so the very slight level of added technicality pleases the paramilitary operators.
My AR has no engravings for fire/safe and I barely use the thing. Why should someone rely on the safety, ever? If you're not going to rely on it (as taught), then why would you train to use it?

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>>34706939
better than f-35

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>>34707567

>>34707573
WOW a simpson reaction pic
you sure showed me you win this debate fine sir
10 internets to you!!1
i still can belive it rafale vs f35 resolved with a simson pic
THATS A GREAT ARGUMENT
im gonna use this from now on
you shore showed me how f-35 is muuuuuuuuuuuuuch superior and cheaper ;)
not to mention it doesnt cost 3 trillion dollars like rafale
while us foregin debt(to china) is 18 trillion dollars
wow
you are great a simson reaction pic

>>34699636
You have to remember that the Chinese military structure isn't like western ones it's a lot more similar to Russia where officers fill the role of NCOs in their army. I wouldn't harp on them for a lack of an NCO corps because it's not part of the structure. If you are a career military man in most armies outside the European tradition you are an officer, that's just the way it works.

On another note when Chinese observers went to MCRD San Diego they were amazed the drill instructors WEREN'T officers. Really, it's just a different scheme not necessarily strictly better/worse. I think you're on point with the logistics aspect but anything that can be said about China in that regard can be said about India doubly, you only need to read that American naval officer expose of the flagship of India's fleet. India just plain old sucks at war. China is at least decently modern and professional.

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>>34707707

>>34706906
The Flanker variants both sides use, the J-10 and the Rafale are good. Everything else will either not see combat or not viable against the aforementioned aircraft.

>>34707427
It's a hostage rescue thing from Delta/HRT that gradually trickled down into grunts doing house clearing in the Iraq occupation, and from there to civilians.

It's not SOP when expecting contact and not around civilians, e.g. much of Afghanistan.

>>34707567
Comparing a stealth jet suited for ground strike operations to a fighter jet with poor stealth technology. Solid comparison anon. Well thought out. You might as well compare a M82 to a R700. Yes they do similar things, their roles however would be totally different in a military application. If you wanna be fair compare F22 and Dassault. In which case the F22 would undeniably dominate.

>>34697172

lol, they're friends with India and India has no oil

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>>34700672

mfw

>>34707707
>not to mention it doesnt cost 3 trillion dollars like rafale
That doesn't help your argument. I think you got it mixed up, manny.

>while us foregin debt(to china) is 18 trillion dollars
No, Japan holds most of it, about 8%.

Anything you want to talk specifically about in regards to the F-35 and Rafale?

>>34699783
Just like the last time india and china went toe to toe, and back then it was god damn mao in charge and it was post-sino soviet split, i.e western allies could likely have gotten involved easy.

They didnt bother.

China won btw - by virtue of surprisingly sensible leadership from '4 pests' Mao (he set a clear and achievable set of 'victory' aims, met them, then basically said: 'what now, curryniggers' to india

>>34707869
>>34706906

India hasn't taken delivery of Rafales yet.

JH-7 is supposed to be somewhat decent, with ok avionics but an anemic engine.

China's J-7 fleet is much less upgraded than India's Mig-21 fleet, but both fighters are garbage. There's only so far that you can take a Mig-21 airframe.

India's Mig-29's are older models, and they have really short legs. They can defend airfields and that's about it.

J-20 isn't even remotely ready. It can fly, but none of the weapon integrations would be done at this point. F-22 weapons integration took forever because of the special needs of a weapons bay launch. I wouldn't be surprised if J-20 has the same problem.

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Things could actually escalate:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/ht-exclusive-pla-expert-says-china-could-eject-indian-troops-from-donglang/story-PEkODjf0k6QNKuwTq9m4QK.html

>China could launch a limited scale military operation against Indian troops to ouster them from the Donglang region near the Sikkim sector, a People’s Liberation Army (PLA) military expert has said, adding that the “unprecedented nature” of the current dispute could make Beijing look for a strong resolution.

>>34699299
>implying China could ever beat India in a war

China is hopelessly inferior to India in all aspects. India fields the best of Western/Russian technology while China uses reverse engineered copies of Soviet monkey models. Chinas shit tier equipment like its T-72 derived Type 99s and its Flanker copies with shit engines cant hope to come close to the power of the Arjun, T-90s, Rafales and real Flankers that India fields. India has a superior navy with multiple operational carriers and can easily strangle China. India also has exponentially more combat experience, and tis troops are much more motivated. India would wipe the floor with China if this war were to happen

>>34710783
1/10. Too much, too long, too dumb.

>>34710783
poo in the loo pajeet

>>34710712

A "limited scale military operation" inherently carries the risk of escalating to a broader conflict. Both parties get a vote on such matters. And if there is undoubtedly "huge pressure" on the Chinese government to act, why would one expect the pressure on the Indian government to be any less, such that they would accept a limited defeat without further escalation?

Essentially, the gamble in such a situation is that India's institutions, and the decision-makers involved, are far-sighted enough to accept a limited defeat (or find a way to de-escalate before that point), acting in the national interest rather than out of concern for one's career, the image of one's party, etc. Who here has that much confidence in the Indian government?

How good a the Arjun tanks anyways i barely hear anything about them

>>34696790
》同志们好!
》主席好!
》同志们辛苦了!
》为人民服务!

>Greetings Comrades!
>Greetings Chairman!

>Working hard comrades!
>All for the people!


What's hilarious is that the comment is full of Pakis, indonesians, malaysias, and Russians congratulating China. Then there are Indians, Americans, Taiwan people shitting on China.

lmao

>>34711369

Probably because India decided they were better off just buying T-90 kits and assembling those. I think they have nearly ten times as many T-90 than they do Arjun in service now.

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In the short term india might have some advantages, but china would only need to inflict heavy asset losses before the indians get hell from their opposition party.

No need to invade india, just keep knocking out their tanks and planes: practically none of their majority equipment is self produced aside from maybe the poonas

>>34707085
This is actually huge, and is under appreciated. In theatre India has more troops, more bases, more airbases, more aircraft, more artillery, more tanks, more everything. Even with their fucked up logistical train, they will have fire superiority. This is because they view this area as critical to their national existence. They didn't just see, but actually caused pakistan, which was not a connected country, break in twain, and they will do anything to stop this from happening.

Sure on a flat open plain, China's military on paper is superior, but they would be fighting for fuck all, whereas India views this as an existential fight. If China is dumb enough to start a fight here, India will not back down, and will escalate any limited war in order to secure control of these peaks. Simply put, I hope China is jinogistic and arrogant enough to take this fight as you'll get to see a better equipped military get their ass handed to them by an numerically superior enemy that will not give up. Hilarious as this is to say, China will be outnumbered.

>>34711256
Far-sighted Indian politicians will learn from what happened to east Pakistan, and fight an existential fight over their land bridge to their northern states. If China attacks, China would have to hope for a few cowardly politicians who will sell out the future of india to avoid war today.

>>34707751
you do understand this is a huge problem right? it means that a much larger percentage of their military is cannon fodder.

>>34711369
like every domestically produced weapon system it seems to be complete crap. One day we will be surprised, but today is not that day.

>>34711692
Now you're not talking a short war here. China's military has not fought an extended fight since goddamn korea. China's weapons, logistics, and personnel are not prepared for a long fight. See the time they had to bring in prostitues and home cooked meals from family members to soldiers who were supposed to be sequestered for 2 days in a war simulation.

>>34704812
Things indeed look to be going well for Xi, but a border war carries way more risk than he should accept. Lose to India and he will be run out of power, and summarily shot by his successor.

>>34704837
You never know, because Xi has been very successful at fracturing his opposition, it means if Xi falls, no one knows who or what will come to replace him. It could end up opening up the economy, or it could close it, or keep on the same track, no one knows. Hell, unless Xi starts a war he loses, he will probably remain in power indefinitely.

>>34711748
>China's military has not fought an extended fight since goddamn korea.
/k/ in charge of knowing military history

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>>34707707
>while us foregin debt(to china) is 18 trillion dollars
>the entire US debt is owed to China

This is how I know you sniff gasoline for fun

>>34701694
>that gepard rip off
Fucking chunks have a hard on for German vehicles

>>34711929
Just like anybody else.

>>34711725
>Simply put, I hope China is jinogistic and arrogant enough to take this fight as you'll get to see a better equipped military get their ass handed to them by an numerically superior enemy that will not give up.
Lolololol delusional poo is delusional.

>>34710783
India shills? Never thought I'd see the day.

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56th Brigade during the Parade.

>>34713427
skritposting seems to be an "in" fad, lately

>>34713427
They don't need shills. Indians actually believe this.
https://youtu.be/Xl0b2LGf9jM

Chinese special forces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebVfd6s2o_8

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Is it bad that I actually want to see India & China go to war?
The first real nation vs. nation conflict of the century that anybody would really give a shit about, aside from the invasion of Iraq.

>>34712254
arrogant chink is arrogant.

>>34713858
notice an almost complete lack of optics for the "special" forces.

>>34711879
>>34708229
us is falling while china is growing stronger
most of factories now work in china and a lot of buissneses in usa are taken over by chinese ceo-s
china already took over the no1 spot of the biggest economy in the world
military is just the matter of time
of course you can insult me etc.
but lets face it usa is finished
with retard president and a 40% white country

a breakdown of the situation for the normies and plebs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSOOHKNeuZc

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>>34714483

>>34714483
>us is falling while china is growing stronger
Certainly not, they have to continue growing at the rate they are for another 30 years before they surpass the US, which many people believe isn't sustainable, as their country is getting older and companies are starting to move out of China because of cheaper productions lines in other places.
>china already took over the no1 spot of the biggest economy in the world
No
>military is just the matter of time
Definitely, no. (actually i'd like you to defend the statement you made, what would make it superior to the US in due time?)

>but lets face it usa is finished
No

>with retard president and a 40% white country
So we're going to bring race and ethnicity into this eh? You have significantly more ethnic tensions that the US could ever hope to have. Western China is one huge one.

>>34714557
to add on to this for
>>34714483
>with retard president
Yes, i think he's an idiot too.

>>34713702
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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do you think China would deploy J-20s to shoot down India's more advanced 4th gen aircraft?

>>34710783
Not to mention the limitless fuel supply for their methane burning vehicles!

>>34714600
almost certainly not. Too much to lose, not much to gain. Plus the J-20 is not meant for air to air combat. It was designed as an attack aircraft meant to penetrate deeply and destroy valuable support assets. For proof see the fact it is only stealthy from the front, has shit aerodynamics, and is seriously underpowered for its size. In a straight up fight it would probably lose to a Su-30, and that would be super embarrassing for the PLAAF.

>>34714557
>you
impying im a chinkshit
i dont give a fuck about china nor usa
usa is rapidly falling its economy is slowing
while chinas is growing
just look where china was in 1990s
using mig15s and soviet ships from 1950s
look where is now 5gen fighters
and stealth cruisers that match ticos
us had armed hegomony for a century
china did this in 20 years
imagine where they would be in 20

>>34714549
great argument

>>34714918
Says the anon without an argument, you're just baiting.

>>34714909
As evidenced by this response, you either are pulling out all the stops or legitimately have no understanding of the PRC.

>>34714532

>expects interesting current affairs Youtuber
>gets Falun Dafa news

NOPE

>>34700915

>There is a town in India called "Poo"