/gg/ gunsmithing general: parts kit edition

in response to those from the last thread.
>>34688936
maybe get a CNC machine and a lathe, that's where the real fun begins
>>34689492
>How do you like that polymer stock compared to the wood?

I personally like it better. The wood stock is aesthetic, but the polymer one is much more durable and useful. The fact that you can rotate the cheek rest to whatever position you need it in depending on the optics you are using make it a much better design.

>>34689641
>Please let me take a micrometer to one of those receivers and a bolt and carrier.
if you can make me some parts, for sure

>>34693692
What's the most "gunsmith" way of building an AR
Like.
Milling out the lower and upper?

>>34693692
No pics because electroics die and kill all my saved images, but still working on Saudi G3, FAL G1, and South African Kommando LDP. Need to do finish on G3 receiver and weld it up, get a receiver for FAL, and figure out how tf to make bolt on LDP a closed one.

>>34694126
> Saudi G3
wat

w2c an ak parts kit at a decent price? I've found quite a few akm kits but I have a receiver flat and don't see the point of milling one.

>>34694288
Some rpk yugo kits around for $250 right now

>>34693692
Any recommendations on getting into black powder revolvers, either kits or books?

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I really like the idea of building something out of a parts kit but I'm not a machinist or anything and I don't really have any tools. What is a good parts kit to do for a beginner that is affordable and what type of tools do I need to be able to build more in the future?

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>>34693722
Is the all in cost of building a dragunov/NDM less or more than a $6,500 complete rifle?

Why hasn't anyone created a clone for the US market?

>>34694619
Because there is MR762, which actually just uses a dragunov-style piston system.

>>34693692
>still wanna take a micrometer to one of those kits

>>34694619
Some company did create a .308 drag-o-nov clone. It's actually a great improvement over the original 54r rifle because as Tim from MAC says it offers more accurate ammunition and a greater range of projectiles as well as being more available than 54r

>>34694838
Who?
Since when?

>>34694611
AR

>>34694838
>>34694844
it wasn't done. there was just a prototype receiver made and that's it

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>>34694619
You can find original NDM-86 for about 2500CHF, which is 2580 USD.

Also you can find original Izhmash Dragunov for about 2600EUR (~3000USD).

No need to pay $6,500 for one. Dont get ripped off.

>>34694847
I've already got two. I'm thinking something more like an AK or RPK or something like that.

>>34694861
Haven't ever seen one that wasn't a scam in the US for less than $5000

>>34694861
I wonder if I could go to Swiss land, buy one, weld a plate over the magwell and then import it as a single shot?

>>34693722
>if you can make me some parts, for sure
Give me about 2 years and I'll have a machine in which I can do so.

>>34694861
why are yuropoors so blessed with guns?

They get all the cool guns for much cheaper and better quality.

I wish i would be there.

>>34695013
>I wish i would be there.
Ammo is twice as much, guns are twice as few, and rapefugees are three times as plenty.

>>34688936
Have you considered cosplay?

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>>34693722
>CNC
lol I wish I had that kind of money. I do have access to a Bridgeport and some lathes though. Any ideas for a fun project? I very well may deliver

>>34695852
Yeah I enjoy cosplaying quite a bit. I only ever do it every once in a blue moon for cons but maybe I'll go all out since I'm going to otakon next month. I think day 1 I'm doing moon man, day two I'll do Reimu and I'm not sure yet about the 3rd day. Do you cosplay? p-post cute pics with guns!

>>34696788
>I do have access to a Bridgeport and some lathes though. Any ideas for a fun project? I very well may deliver
make a sten

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Where's a decent place to get the lower for a sten? Planning on trying the build lit here soon. I'm sure there's plenty of videos so I should be good.

>>34694126
I remember you Saudi G3bro.

Post pics of the G3 when you can.
That tan furniture was the tits.

>>34696853
you build it, google sten plans

>>34693885
hand and files

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This is a general now? Neat.

>>34693885
put one together using only a rubber mallet, .308 case, and a pry bar.

>>34694126
I will pay an unhealthy amount for your LDP kit. I've been trying to track one down for a long time now.

>>34694288
What nationality do you want?

>>34694597
just buy one of those $200-250 revolver kits if you're only just getting into black powder and want a pistol.

>>34694611
It depends upon how complicated you want to get. I'd say an Uzi is the easiest. Get a Mckay Enterprises receiver and semi-auto bolt kit, and an uzi parts kit, and its almost like putting an AR together with how easy it is.
I got my Parts kit from Whatacountry, and my barrel and sear from US Barrel Shrouds (along with a few other neat accessories)
http://shop-usbarrelshrouds-com.3dcartstores.com/Full-Size-Semi-Auto-Uzi_c_39.html

If you want to try welding shit together, or cutting/bending receivers, I'd suggest a Sten first, since you can put one together with a dremel and JB Weld.
http://indianapolisordnance.com/products.html

A PPS-43 is also fairly easy to assemble, though I'd rate it one step above a sten in difficulty. A PPSh-41 is almost as easy as a 43, though cutting the bolt for a denial bar (and modifying to a closed system) is a little more complicated than a complete beginner can probably do.

If you want to get into restoring rifles rather than building them, I'd suggest one of the IMA untouched guns. $~500 for a 150+ year old rifle is a hell of a deal and all of mine have cleaned up with barely any effort.

whats the easiest kit to build? doesnt matter what the gun is.

>>34694557
Oh shit that's not bad. I have a flat for a generic fixed stock ak though and I'd prefer one over an rpk.
>>34696943
I don't really care where the parts are from as long as they work

>>34696962
AR

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I feel like it's missing something but I just can't put my finger on it.

>>34694619

>why isn't 'x' clone created

Simple economics. Sales < Cost of Startup. Even the regular AK domestic market has only became feasible in the past few years (largely thanks to Obama). AK variants will take some time, if they ever develop at all. But you could get one built for less than that, I mean hell you can get a DP28 built for like $2500 IIRC.

Anyone know if Carcano front and rear sights are silver soldered on? I've got a 91/41 that's been bubba'd that I'm going to make into a target rifle because it's accuracy marked (inb4 no bubba no - stock has already been butchered beyond repair). If I can't get the front and rear sights off, I'm tempted to order one of the cheapo Mosin rails (the ones that mount to the rear sight) and rig it up to work. However, that's going to screw up my optic selection.

I only have like $60 total in this gun including transfer fee right now. Getting a bolt from Numrich for $60 and by the time I sell some other parts that came with it, I should at the end of the day be completely done in the 100-125 range sans optic, of which I already have. Going retro with the sight.

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Im about to fuck up welding some rails this week

>>34697813
Looks fine to me.

>>34698244
Whats a good generic AK build?
I really want to make one but I dont know which parts kit to get.

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>>34698287
Id build 3 other guns before an ak. Then build an ak.

>>34698417

This.

Years ago I decided that an AK in 5.45 was going to be my first build, and I eventually got it done, but it kicked my fucking ass. Considering how cheap those were back in the day (first AK variant I ever bought cost me $275 at a flea market), I wasted a shitload of money doing my own build.

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Where do I get a cetme l kit ? Or the other 556 varient?

>>34698417
>>34698441
I've built 4 already.

Ever build a muzzleloader from scratch? I'm thinking about building a 4 bore musket out of dom tubing just to make lots of noise and be generally obnoxious. Think it would be strong enough for black, or better off getting a barrel totally custom machined?

>>34698479

All of those got bought up. FFL buddy of mine was telling me "grapevine talk" was that one guy bought every single one APEX had to hoard them for later.

Don't know how true that is, but that's what I heard.

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>>34698479
I've gotten to play with one once, honestly they're pretty shit rifles, so you're not missing out on much. If you still want one you're going to have to sit on gunbroker for awhile and poke around forums.

>>34698417
What AK kit would you suggest to someone who has already built those three other guns? I really know nothing about them. I'm also interested in slapping together a "generic AK". I was planning to get a Vepr and turn it into an RPK but that options out the window for awhile.

>every single PPS43 trunnion is bent or smashed
>only option is to buy another complete kit with a good trunnion

FUCK

>>34699512
send me your rear sight if you do, mine was cut and it bothers the fuck out of me. >>34699352

>>34699780
that's a ppsh though. They have the same sights?

>>34699795
yeah I just reread what you posted, I dont know if they do or not. Should have tipped me off when you said "bent trunnion".

>>34699831
the drunk vlads who demilled the polish PPS43s into kits used a chainsaw or something to remove the barrel pin from the trunnion. So most of them are smashed or the stamping is ruptured. Really annoying

>>34694611
AKs do require a good deal of tooling. Something more simple, as mentioned before, would be UZI.

>>34694619
It's not really cost effective to build an SVD because there are no bolts or receivers on the market.
What we do for SVD-S conversions is buy a Tigr as a donor rifle and convert it into SVD-S doing a re-weld.

Or into post 1993 military configuration with a re-barrel.

>>34694837
plz make US receivers and bolts.
>>34694923
ok
>>34696788
with a bridgeport and a lathe, get into the MG building game.

Things like SG-43s, PKMs, RPDs, MG42s, KGKTs

sign up on weapons guild. There's a whole new world of building waiting for ya.
>>34696943
you gonna build that DPM with just the royal tiger kit?
>>34698244
F

>>34699862
>you gonna build that DPM with just the royal tiger kit?
No, have some stuff from SMG guns coming in the mail, I live down the road from them.
By the way, Royal Tiger is IO. Really wish I'd ordered from someone else.

>>34699907
I'm not complaining. I live in a cuck state and order the magazine-less SA26 kit. Still came with five mint mags. Lol

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>>34699907
>Royal Tiger is IO.
Yeah I know.

As much as I hate ordering from them, sometimes they import good stuff. Their DPM kits had perfect overlapping sections with the Robert Bowman DPM and DP-28 kits, so needless to say I ended up buying two RTI kits just for the overlap sections.

You gonna get on the RP-46 conversions from them? Bought a couple of their barrels, and have an original barrel as well, then getting the semi-parts from them to do the builds.
pretty excited about the RP-46 conversions.

>>34699940
RTI has been known to not give a shit about anything, including the law.

They've even been known to have receivers not fully cut, Like a third cut was attempted, stopped half way, packaged up and then shipped out

>>34699970
god bless Uli

>>34699942
So you're the one that cucked me out of a barrel!

I want one of the RP-46's, but I'm not sure I want to turn this into an almost $4k gun lol. Depends upon if I've gotten the thing put together by the time they're released I guess, and if they have any spares for those that didn't get in on the pre-orders.

>>34693692
>tfw no project because cars are expensive and my job is cheap

Fuck this shit. $6/hour and shitty tip shares to live off of isn't an easy way to have this hobby.

I need my damn acceptance letter for a machine tool technology degree, but I'm stuck in limbo for stupid ass reasons.

>>34700058
and this folks, is why you should not drop out of college

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>>34699983
I'm honestly surprised the guy isn't in jail
>>34700000
>septs
fucking nice
but yeah I bought my original barrel from Mg34gunner, did SMG also have one for sale?

>>34699942

I've always had luck with Royal Tiger.

>ordered a DPM kit several months ago
>at the time advertising with two drums included
>mfw there were five drum mags in that fucking package. I had ordered some CZ26 kits ($50 for kit with 5 mags) too, so maybe they just got the order a little screwy, but I wasn't going to complain. I have a Tec 9 upper and eventually I'll get around to converting it to use the CZ26 mags since those are a fraction of the price of tec mags.

I wish Robert didn't have these priced so damn high, because I want one, but not $500 want one:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/674917038

>>34700557
Yeah I got five drums as well, though two of them are missing the ring to help with loading, and there's a cut in the barrel shroud.
I'll probably order a DPM kit from Bowman as well if he's still got some.

>>34700355
Not originals, no. They sold out of the new production ones awhile back.

Any issue with Bulgarian 74 kits that you know of? would it be advised to do one of those over an M72?

>>34700621

He does. Plenty. Was looking through his GB account a few minutes ago. Getting those 10k rounds of "salvage" ammo for $900 is tempting but I bet I'd eat several hundred on freight and I'd end up getting 9500 rounds of shit I can't use.

>>34699862
>plz make US receivers and bolts.
If I got my way, I'd make the receiver in house, and contract out all the small parts until I built up enough capital to start expanding into making those parts in house.

So yes, receivers, bolts, carriers, etc. Would all be made as test rifles, tested the shit out of until failure and then evaluated and revised. Then small scale production would begin with rifles hopefully costing around 2500-3000.

That guy on akfiles, sheepdog, is crazy to ask 6k a rifle.

>>34700557
It's not so much about bad luck from Royal, but rather the fact that they are I.O, and the way they screw with the AK community and market is just fucked.

I got three mags with each kit myself from them, and the cuts were in perfect places. it seems all their shrouds are cut, but the bowman kits have uncut shrouds.
>>34700621
they are still making DP barrels right now. One of my friends JUST ordered one like a week ago.

>Any issue with Bulgarian 74 kits that you know of?
RTI only has complete rifles listed I think.
The kits on the rifles are original 74 kits, but they have trash U.S. made barrels and receivers. There was a pretty big incident where they sold a whole batch with gas ports drilled out to 5mm.

Or if you just mean 74 kits in general? I've built a couple hundred and never had an issue with bulgy 74 kits. did get a number that needed oversized barrels from Rguns, but was never an issue.
>>34700708
>2500-3000
if that's true that would be great. I would say unlikely unless you had some serious ramped up production.

I know sheepdog well. He always has a few hundred thousand dollars floating around for crazy projects, he spent $100,000 on reverse engineering an original 1972 produced Russian SVD, so he has every part already engineered for production. The process took 2 years.

Then after getting it done his contractor died and he decided not to pursue the project further, instead just setting the entire thing aside, and only after 5 years (and some persuasion from myself and a couple others to get him to use the files for receiver production) did he decide to see if there was any interest in new manufacture SVD parts, in particular receivers, but his prices are a bit high, although he was quoting me ~$600 per receiver which was something I would pay, but he needed many more people to get on board before he would get the files sent to to a machinist for manufacture.

>>34700956
I was thinking of getting either this kit or one of the Yugo kits off of Numrich.
But if they're fine, then any issues that you know of with Nodak AK receivers?

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Holy fuck didn't know these threads existed, I'm in desperate need of help.

This is a Swedish Mauser 1894 carbine, about 100,000 exist. In its full glory these things run for like a grand but some fucker bubba'd it. Restoring it entirely would cost thousands with a stock and everything so I'm going to do a semi-restoration, just simple stuff but things that make it look just like a model 94 at a close glance.

Basically I need three things done, and MAYBE a fourth but I might have to take it to some guy and get a part custom made for me.

1) I need to remove the front sight blade in some way, it's a redfield that's been welded on by bubba. I kinda like the site but I need it removed to carry on with step #2 and I don't know how to do so.

2) I need to install a rear sight, wouldn't/couldn't deal with all the springs and stuff so I went with this complete set I found on eBay: Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/292198011229 I knew I'd never come across another complete set again so I immediately emailed the seller and asked to buy it $10 more than he wanted. This is pretty easy but I need to slide the rear sight base on and can't do that with the front sight welded on. If I get the front sight removed I'll have to either reattach it or just buy a new front sight.

3) I want the stock completely refinished to where it is like a dark walnut color, I also bought an upper forend for $35 and I'm going to send off both pieces of wood to get refinished in the same manner

4) I can't seem to find a barrel band for the M94 (rear or front idk, it's the one that goes over the upper/lower handguard and holds the upper in place) and I don't think the M96/M38 ones work for it. I'm going to see if I can get one made for me, it's only a piece of metal and shouldn't be too hard.

If anyone can help me w/ anything pls

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Mauser-33384/Rifles-37349/94Swedish-39202/PartsList-34372.htm

Sorry for wall of text, typing all this on my phone.

>>34697813
>can't put my finger on it
Clever bastard

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>>34699512
Honestly the 2nd most fun gun i own

>>34699352
Probably a yugo/romanian to start.>>34699862
Any advice for welding the rails?

>>34700956
>Then after getting it done his contractor died and he decided not to pursue the project further,
So, he had everything ready to go and spent 100k already then said fuck it I'm not going to pursue production.

Why?

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>>34694861
>paying over 2k for chinese svd
this one comes with two sound suppressors, two mags and POSP 3-9x42

>>34701269
Is the front sight actually welded, or did they just put loctite or something on it? If it's just loctite, you can heat it up with propane or oxy acetylene and it'll come right off. If it's legit welded on there, you're going to have to probably cut it off with a dremel and a cutting disk.

You can refinish the wood yourself. It's not difficult, just time consuming. You can soak the wood in oven cleaner to completely strip off the old finish, or you can sand it all off with 180 grit. Once all the finish is removed, then sand it with 220 then 320 grit. Apply whatever finish you prefer. Danish oil gives a really nice soft finish but doesn't offer much protection. You sand in the oil with the grain at firsyt, then against the grain. The idea is to create a slurry of oil and wood dust which will fill in the grain. You should be using 400 grit by the end. Your other option is a clear finish like Helmsman or chem-pak pro custom oil. This gives you a nice, glossy glass-like finish but it's very labor intensive and time consuming. You start by brushing on a coat of finish (diluted 1:1 with mineral spirits) trying to avoid dripping. Try to get it on there as evenly as possible. Then you sand it with 320 and do it again. You might have to do this 10 times or more before the grain is filled. Each coat you add, use less and less mineral spirits until you're just using straight finish. Once the surface of your wood is uniform, then you want to finish by spraying pure finish on the stock. If it has an orange peel texture, then take a clean sock or rag and use FFF rubbing compound to remove the orange-peel texture until you have a nice glass-like finish.

>>34701269

As far as the parts you need, I check eBay since they often have oddball parts that you can't find anywhere else, then I check Numrich. There parts are low quality but they have tons of obscure shit and their prices are usually reasonable. If you absolutely can't find the piece you need, ask a main shop to make you one. A barrel band shouldn't be too difficult.

>>34702803
*machine shop
Fucking phone posting

>>34696853
APEX has sten lowers.

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Bumpo

Smithfags pls help

I'm finally going to fuck with cerakoting. I already have airbrushing shit, but what do I do in order to sand blast stuff?

I don't have the space to store a cabinet, it seems counter intuitive to send out stuff to get blasted, I've been practicing spraying on shit I scuffed with sand paper but I can see why I would want a finer media

Wat do?

>>34701185
Numrich is pretty good so I imagine at least their kits are complete. Surplus yugo stuff will sometimes need small parts like springs or extractors replaced but nothing really major
Nodak receivers have always been good to go.
>>34701963
just get the straight really. AK builder rail tool really helps with that
>>34702368
He has money just to throw away.
I think after he didn't find someone soon after to pick up the project he just kinda chucked it, threw the files on an HDD and even forgot where he saved them when I was asking a few months ago.
>>34703387
you don't /need/ a cabinet to sand blast. just put on a respirator and closed goggles.

>>34702803

>tfw I'm one of the people who sell oddball parts on eBay.

Unfortunately, I have nothing for Swedish Mausers right now so I can't help OP. I don't see many of them at all in my region, quite honestly. Two in the past year and I bought one of them because it was a sporter for $100.

>>34703607

Kits I've bought from Numrich over the year have usually been high quality. In fact, they've over fucked me over once in probably 14 years, and that was on a H&R/NEF stock that was sold "new" but had a giant fucking gash in it. They did a refund and sent me a different one, which was fine.

Sometimes you get some really good deals through there. I bought some Jennings Floral Slides years ago, forgot what I paid, but last time I sold one a guy gave me $75 for it. Probably undersold it because the Jennings guys go crazy over those.

>>34703387
If you're not willing to spend several hundred dollars on a glove box, then they make these portable sandblasters for like 80 bucks. I've never used one before so I don't know if they're shit or not. I'd imagine you'd get the media everywhere too. Sandblasting/beadblasting is an extremely fast, easy, and efficient way to prep your metal, but you can prep metal for finishing just using a file and sandpaper. It takes a lot longer and you have to know what you're doing or else you'll end up with uneven surfaces and washed out holes and edges. For someone who is untrained, sandblasting is a better option, but prepping the metal by hand is the "proper" way to do it in my opinion.

>>34703697

Harbor freight dude

https://www.harborfreight.com/abrasive-blast-cabinet-68893.html

20% coupon and sometimes they have coupons for that specific item, so can knock that down further. I know it's Harbor Freight but all of my HF shit works pretty good for the most part. Even my shitty $6 dremel clone does detailed polishing and sanding jobs for me.

To put my own 2 cents in for the thread, i have access to a 5 axis cnc mill and a 3 axis cnc lathe with active tooling, where do i start looking for solid models to build things?

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>>34703884
i also have copious amounts of 6061 aluminum barstock

>>34703776
Yeah, it's shitty Chinese shit, but it all works for the most part. Plus, if something breaks on you, it's not like you're out that much money. I've been thinking about getting one of their 12-ton shop presses for 100 bux.

>>34703607
What's your thoughts on Jojos bizarre adventure?

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You had TWO jobs, ejector. And one was to fit decent. Goddamnit.

>>34704116
>doesn't squeeze his toothpaste tube from the bottom.
I think I see the problem here...

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>>34704166
I'm not the culprit for that one!

>>34701958
how do i get one

>>34700071
college is a meme, that anon just has no determance to better himself.

>>34704296
>college is a meme
I wouldn't be making the $200,000 a year I do without it

>>34704325
are you a mathematician?

>>34704346
No, engineer.

>>34704355
what kind

>>34704296
College is only a meme if you go for something useless or only go because you think you're supposed to.

>>34704365
which is like 90% of people

>>34704365
Honestly I just went to college becasue familial expectations and status. I hate going to my job everyday, I hate my major, I hate my life. But guess what? In those moments where I can look down on plebs who didn't further their education and make less than me, it makes it all so worth it.

>>34704358
Petroleum Engineer, mostly overseas work

>>34704479
>Petroleum Engineer
cool. i looked into that and power systems engineering but got into something else.

>>34704455
I spent my late teens and early 20's just partying, travelling, and doing drugs like a degenerate. I didnt stary going tk college until my late 20's. It sucks because I'm almost 30 and I'm just now getting my shit together, but I'm also glad because I definitely didn't know wtf I wanted to do with my life back then. I would have probably gotten a degree in Scandinavian cave painting instead of something useful that I enjoy.

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Update on the pps43/ak74/9mm conversion, shortened the gas tube, modified the front trunnion to sit farther back to work better with the pps43 magwell, and then took the spot welds out of the pps reciever to get just the magwell

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>>34704865
The magwell is really tight, so i might open it up a little. Right now trying to figure out how i want to weld it to the reciver

>>34704883

JB WELD AND SCREWS MAN

>>34704883
Theoretically you could make a 10mm version with a blank barrel could you not? It's something I'd like to try if feasible

>>34704279
Buy a pps43 pistol. Cut the rear of the reciever off and weld on the pps52 reciever end. Weld on a barrel extension and your done.

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I've changed jobs and moved out of a house into an apartment, but I've still got an itch to build guns after selling a bunch of my tools. Would now be an optimal time to apply for a SBR stamp for a PPS43 or uzi or similar build since I won't actually be touching the parts kit until I move back into a house? Do these stamps expire if they aren't "used" after a while?

>>34706114
Uzi takes 25 seconds to go from rifle to sbr

>>34703607
>he just kinda chucked it, threw the files on an HDD and even forgot where he saved them when I was asking a few months ago.
some people have too much money and too little sense,

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Bloopity boop

>>34705547
Yeah you could, but 9mm and 5.45 have the sane base diameter so i can use the same bolt for them, youd have to sleeve for 10mm

>>34703776
Did you read the part where I said I don't have room to store a cabinet if I bought one

>>34698659

Get some thick stuff and do remote proof testing and you'll be fine. Black powder is much lower stress used correctly.

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Rate my thunder mug bitches

>>34704865
>>34704883
this is super fucking neat. please keep us updated in /gg/ threads

>>34708754
what

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>>34709120
No problam I'd love to. Its my first build ever but I have a lot of experience with metal and fitting (i think).

>>let me show off more shit I'v made

>>34709273
hey uhhhh... would you happen to have an extra pps43 trunnion that you'd sell

since I'm assuming you got the lower from a kit

>>34701269
What kind of welding, and did they do a good job?

If my suspicions are correct, a fine hand and a dreamer should work.
Just make sure you have it chucked up in a way that will NOT mar the finish or bend anything, and ABOVE. ALL. ELSE.
Do NOT, I repeat FUCKING. NOT. Cut towards the barrel. Cut into the sight base in a direction that will NOT potentially hit the barrel.

Then gently sand down the little bit of the weld that's left with sandpaper by hand.
Check here for the parts.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Mauser-33384/Rifles-37349/94Swedish-39202/PartsList-34372.htm
And the wood can be done easily yourself.

>>34709340
Sorry :/ live in WA, had to buy the lower by itself, cant import parts kits.

>>34709530

Now that doesn't make any sense at all. WA has a hard-on for FA FCG's, which would explicitly be your fucking lower and everything else should be kosher. But that's the type of shit that happens when special snowflake states want to enact silly fucking laws.

Looks like you have a rough one. I had probably 10 lowers last year I got real cheap to resell, they were all unissued. That one you have looks like an actual Russian one though. I've never seen a Polish one in that bad of cosmetic shape.

>>34710445
The state considers the bolt and trigger of open bolt guns to be an "assault weapon" part. You can ship individual parts, but since most parts kits include a bolt or FCG, retailers just dont sell any here. The whole state is flagged even if it would be legal.

And yeah, its beat to crap. Im gonna saok it in coke when im done fitting it and then use epoxy to cover the dimples in it, sand it, and then when i paint it you wont be able to tell the difference.

Buuuump

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>>34704883
>>34704883
>>34709273
Looks awesome, Whats your plan for the furniture?

Have you thought about cutting the trunnion and receiver shorter like the Russians did, gets rid of a little extra length and moves the chamber back

>>34712322
Im using some beat to shit bulgarian furniture for it, was really cheap from the files. And yeah, I cut parts off the trunnion so i ould move it back farther, might trim the rails too. The only problem with doing that is that then i have to cut my bcg so the hammer still hits at 90 degrees. Might trim an inch or less

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>>34713158
This picture shows what I'm talking about better, by taking about an inch off the tunnion and receiver you then won't need a huge long chamber diameter area and the boltface/FCG/rails can stay standard.

>>34713569
Right, but im oushing the barrel farther back into the trunnion aswell. So since the operating system is just going to be direct blowback, i have to cut part of the bolt anyway, so i might as well take off a little more to lower my total length

>>34713569
Im at work, ill take pictures later to explain. Im a sperg at explanations

>>34713864
>>34713874
lol okay

>>34713569
zasta what's the coolest kit you own?

>>34715587
probably one of his AK74u's

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>>34715587
Bizon or these but I don't have all the parts for one yet.

Say I were to pick up a pkm kit and a VLTOR pkm receiver. Where would I find a gunsmith to put it together and how much would it cost.

>>34715975
probably an arm and leg.

>>34715838
Do you have the op rod or bolt carrier for one of those? I'm just amazed you even have that much of the an94

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>>34716264
Do have a complete deact but it's in RU still and a bunch of small parts

>>34716340
Damn, how'd you buy a react? I thought you had to have a licence or something.

>>34704325
i know you could make thing with handtools but that seems like a massive pain. if i want to start building one offs for myself what would you recommend as far as tools. i figure by default il need a welder, lathe, and various hand tools. im sure a mill would make life way easier but my pockets are only so deep

Idk if any of you can answer this, but do SAR-80's use standard AR barrels? or is it a unique profile?

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>>34716510
Money a good chunk.

>>34716890
Heres how its sitting. As you can see, i have cut the trunnion, but im keeping the upper thicker portion to act as a stop for the bolt carrier.i have maybe a half inch off so far

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>>34717180
Fug forgot pick

>>34717193
protip, if you want a drum mag, chop a pps43 mag, weld in a bar so it's single stack; then make a 8~ long link of dummy ammo, and put it in a Suomi drum that you've ground the feed lips off of. then weld the pps43 stick to the suomi
ez 65 round drum

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>>34694847

This. I built my first AR last week needing only a vice and a ball-peen hammer. Haven't gotten to fire her yet, but I'm confident it'll shoot well.

>>34717252
>he used a vice
I just held it between my legs and took it to pound town with a rubber mallet and my supple hands.

>>34715838
>two AN-94s

what the hell are you gonna do with TWO of them!?

>>34717289
true patricians use a harbor freight file set.

Don't forget to store them so the faces touch each other. just chuck them in a drawer

>>34703682
Numrich really has been a life saver for odd end parts I must say
>>34704023
haven't seen it actually
>>34706195
yeah i'm still trying to talk him into doing something with the files.
>>34715838
>>34716340
>two ANs
plz gib one, I have sheckels
>>34717289
heh, that's how I did my first.

>>34703884

Tooling doesnt count for shit if work doesnt let you use it.
>have access to
you dont know how a toolpath works do you?

>>34717430
Ah. Well I've never been a fan of battle shonen but it is the only one I have ever enjoyed, and has become one of my favorite anime at that. I would recommend it. A great /k/ anime for sure

>>34717180
Oh, that should work kind of a mix of both ways. Are you going to have the bolt in the back or forward position of the carrier?

>>34717327
>>34717430
Psh you mean three.
>actually more like one and a bunch of parts/bodies.

>>34708754
is that a literal hand cannon?

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This arrived in the mail today. Never done an AK build before. Just a full Saiga conversion.

So I already built a ar and ak, now I think its on to a 7.62 caliber rifle. Im thinking either a fal or m1a, while the fal is much easier to headspace. Anyone build one on there that could offer some pointers?

>>34717821
Oh shit original barrel?

>>34717821
Where did you get it? Nodak doesnt sell folding stock receivers anymore which is disappointing to say the least.

Hey guys
I'm thinking about doing an ak47 build and I've decided on building a ras 47. What is a list of parts I need to build one? I think I might start building and selling them because it's got the reliability of an ak but it's better american made parts so it would probably sell really well

>>34717658
plz gib one
>>34717655
yeah same, my brother in law keeps trying to get my to watch it, i'll prob check it out
>>34717821
nice, get a receiver from Dave for that thing

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>>34717658
A mix, Ill mill out a slot to match the unlocked position (where the chalk is) but have it in the distance it would be locked

>>34717888
Yup.

>>34717891
Got it off GunBroker, $500. Really have wanted a side folder for a long time and something in 5.45.

>>34717947
Will do. Thanks for the vids btw. Been watching to build familiarity and confidence.

>>34718434
Yeah Dave is the only one who makes 100% to the dot perfect receivers that are indistinguishable from the originals

Childers comes close (he finally got them nice spot welds) but Dave's are perfect

Sucks they take a year to make though

>>34716887

AR-180 barrels. Robert Bowman has new barrels ready to go IIRC. I've thought about a SAR-80 kit but they're just too pricey for the ATF says fuck you cuts that are on the receivers I've seen.

Thought about having Greg Clark build me a CZ-26. He doesn't live too far from me and I've ran into him in the past. Nice man. But saw this on GB and tempted to bid on it. I think I could actually do this one myself.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/672324440

I've got a couple of the newer kits, including a really old one that doesn't even have a date stamped on the receiver stub, but the cuts are atrocious. Plus I may or may not have "bubba'd" the folding stocks for other projects.