Does anyone here own a 7.62x39 Galil ACE? Tell me about your

its like an ak47 only its costs more than a incredibly good AR

>>34674550
Thank you for your useless opinion. I'm not in the market for an AR-15.

>>34674592
It's like the old galils but uglier and more expensive.

Probably the shittiest looking gun being manufactured, and they don't really offer anything over a good AK.

Get an SGL-31 you fucking retard. If you really have to be contrarian then get a Sig 550. The CZ 805 is just a poorfag SCAR.

>>34674737
>Probably the shittiest looking gun being manufactured
>and they don't really offer anything over a good AK.
I think it looks fine. It seems to offer enhanced precision over your standard 7.62x39 AK because of the thicker barrel profile, a right side charging handle, optics rail, etc. Build quality looks quite a bit higher than anything Izhmash or Arsenal have put out.
>Get an SGL-31 you fucking retard.
I'm not spending 2000 dollars on an Arsenal conversion abortion.
>if you really have to be contrarian then get a Sig 550.
I'm not spending 10k on a pre-ban rifle with an unlined barrel or 3500 on a 553 that also has an unlined barrel and I then have to register to put a stock on.
>The CZ 805 is just a poorfag SCAR.
It's pretty much identical to the SCAR so why would I pay another 1000 dollars for a SCAR? I can even buy barrel assemblies that aren't half the price of the gun.

Have you ever even touched either of these guns?

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>>34674516
Get this instead

>>34674792
You can either spend $2000 on a plastic jew AK or $2000 on a Czech Scar copy. I'm not sure why you would get either but it's your money. That's a lot of cash.

Do what you want, I've never held the CZ but the ACE felt cheap in person.

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>>34674833
I'm all boned up

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>>34674878
Its cheaper than the galil too.

>>34674833
I forgot these existed. What can you tell me about it?
>>34674868
>You can either spend $2000 on a plastic jew AK or $2000 on a Czech Scar copy.
They're both going for 1500 dollars. It's really not a lot of money. The 805 does things that are, in my opinion, better than the SCAR like not force me to use AR-15 magazines or put the front sight on the gas block.
The Galil has a milled receiver and I don't really give a shit about people's hatred of plastic.

>>34674912
What are these called?... asking for a friend...

>>34674833
I love that one. Unfortunately I am a reloaderfag and it destroys the brass.

>>34674977
PTR32

>>34674959
>force you to use ar mags
>force you to use the most ubiquitous, cheap, and reliable magazine on the US market
Really activated my almonds

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>>34674977
This
>>34674981
>>34674978
Who shoots 7.62x39 brass?


>>34674959
Very accurate, reliable , easlily mount optics. Only real downfall is the weight. Not an issue for me.

Take a look at the M10X, OP.
1 MOA with Lapua/similar ammo, and the bolt handle is ambi. New ones have reciprocating dust covers for the handle slots. Half the price.

>>34674978
>brass
>7.62x39
>reloading 7.62x39
Nigga what?

>>34675059
Anyone here have an M10X? I've been looking at these for a while to accompany my AKs.

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>>34675347
There is a trip fag thay has one, he says he likes it.

>>34674550
>lol just buy an AR
here's your (you)

>>34674959
Ptr32 is picky with mags in my experience. Other than that great gun. Bit heavy for an intermediate caliber, but that plus the roller delay action makes for very soft recoil

>>34674959
>like force me to use AR mags
The only reason you want either rifle is because you have an intense desire to be snowflake, eh?

>>34674959
But the CZ-805 uses AR mags.

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>>34675402
My gen 2 hasnt had any issues with bakes or ak103 mags. Pmags also work perfect. Steel mags work, but i seem to get one ftf every time i use one.

>>34675438
They have a magazine well that works with G36/Czech magazines.

>>34675457
In the US civ version?

>>34675462
Yes.

>>34674959
One of the big selling points of the BREN is that it uses STANAG magazines you retard. Do you know anything about the rifles you want or is the only thing guiding your purchasing decision a "can't be popular or associated with anything pop ular" mentality?

>>34675457
sooooo youre just gonna go out of your way to buy G36 and Czech magazines....

>>34675466
>One of the big selling points of the BREN is that it uses STANAG magazines you retard.
It's not a selling point to me.
>Do you know anything about the rifles
More than it appears anyone on here knows since you people are just regurgitating internet facts when I wanted owner experiences.
>is the only thing guiding your purchasing decision a "can't be popular or associated with anything pop ular" mentality?
Why do I have to like AR-15s and AR-15 magazines? Why does it bother you so much?

>>34675498
why are you so adverse to even AR magazines? what is going on OP?

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>this thread

>>34675494
Yep.
>>34675516
I think they're flimsy garbage compared to pretty much every other 5.56 NATO magazine. My AUG magazines are built like tanks, comparatively. I wish they stuffed those onto every new gun.

>>34674516
Why do you want the 7.62 version? 5.56 is more widely available and isn't corrosive like soviet surplus.

ARfags please leave

>>34675554
OP that's fucking retarded....

>>34675533
I can't wait for OP to break something in his snowflake rifle and he starts to cry because he can't find any parts.

>>34675364
Shit on a stick, I wanted to be the first.

ITT; just buy a civic

>>34675554
>gets G36 magazines
>because AR mags are flimsy
Oh christ this thread gets better and better.

>>34675560
I don't know where you've been, but 7.62x39 surplus has been rare for quite a while. Most of the cheap stuff is new manufacture and not corrosive. See the whole thread for why I'm not getting the GAR16556 model.
>>34675565
Ok bud.

>>34675560
7.62 pens armour, and cover such as walls pretty well. Granted, so does 5.56, but I feel the 7.62 certainly does it better.

>>34675589
sorry OP but to say USGI mags are flimsy is pretty fucking stupid. sorry.

>>34675619
Thanks for your opinion.

>>34675626
you're very welcome, i wish you luck with your thread

>>34675626
That's not an opinion, they objectively are not flimsy, especially compared to something as notoriously brittle (despite their beefed up thickness to compensate for the inherent weakness of clear polymers) as the G36 magazine. You're just a contrarian.

>>34675666
The Czech magazines are copies of the design using a different material. I'm aware G36 magazines themselves are brittle and quite weak.

Why don't you people go into AK threads and lambast the people who have 5.56 NATO AKs?

>>34675589
Oh, okay then. I still don't understand the insistence on 7.62x39, the ruskies moved on to 5.45 for a reason. It's an antiquated round. Do you feel it's not 'authentic' unless you get an AK pattern rifle in a Russian chambering?

>>34675700
Maybe you won't get your shit pushed in if you don't saying dumb nonsense like
>I don't like AR mags because they're flimsy
In the same thread as saying
>I want G36 magazines.

Nor is there any indication the 805 magazine is any stronger, it also being clear polymer.

You're not just wrong, you're also disingenuous. You could have just said you liked clear magazines or you wanted something different, but you opted for saying stupid shit.

You could just buy an AR and spray paint a bunch of parts if you want to feel unique. The AR is the standard for a good (and some bad) reason(s)

>>34675787
>I want G36 magazines.
I never said I wanted G36 magazines.
>Nor is there any indication the 805 magazine is any stronger, it also being clear polymer.
I'm not materials scientist, but I don't think "clear polymer" is a specific type of polymer.

The Czech magazine has been around for 10 years and there haven't be any complaints about its strength. Nor has there been any complaints from the commercial purchasers, here.
>You're not just wrong, you're also disingenuous. You could have just said you liked clear magazines or you wanted something different, but you opted for saying stupid shit.
I said I didn't want them, you asked me for my reasoning. Maybe stop pressing issues if you're going to get this emotionally involved in gun magazines of all things.

>>34675860
>I never said
You said you wanted to go out of your way to buy 805 and G36 mags anon.
>Materials scientist
Irrelevant, if you'd prefer I use the industry term "translucent polymer" then I will when you start referring to the AR magazines in question as STANAGs. Sound fair?
>The Czech magazine has been around for 10 years and there haven't be any complaints about its strength
Nor have AR mags been labeled as weak for the past 50 years.
>My reasoning
You're reasoning is flawed and inconsistent.
>Stop pressing
Nah, you seem like an uppity cunt and I enjoy calling out your kind on being wrong.

>>34675939
He wants us to validate his opinions on the snowflake rifles that he wants.

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>>34674792
>arsenal conversion abortion
Poorfag please

>>34675939
Ok.
>>34676010
I don't want your validation and I also don't want your opinions unless you have owned either of the rifles I mentioned for the long term.

>>34676013
>bump rivet
>wood furniture
>fixed stock
Id say abortion fits right. Should have bought a slr104.

>>34676010
If he wasn't a stupid bint about it all his thread might get somewhere, but oh well.

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>>34674737
You can make them look more Galil like by putting in a bit of work.
Take off the plastic lower (which is really just a pistolgrip, triggerguard and magazine guide as a single unit), then get a gunsmith to stick a pistol grip on there, and a trigger guard.

Then maybe take off those rail covers on the front-end if they bother you.

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>>34676192
Also MagPul AK furniture seems to fit on the Galil ACE, so that's an option to consider if you want that. I think the Zhukov handguard looks better than the factory ACE handguards.

>>34676192
>>34676207
I finger fucked a .308 ACE at a LGS the other day. Build quality seemed okay. It was light, but man or man that trigger is shit.

>>34674833
They work, but they don't like metal mags (plastic ones are better anyway), also with cheap Tula and other stuff, the gun actually gets remarkably dirty.

>>34674978
1. Why would you reload ammo that's so cheap you'd basically not make any savings on it?
2. Google "HK91 Port Buffer" you braindead mongoloid.

>>34676240
What's shit about it?

>>34676207
That actually looks pretty not bad.

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>>34677730
ikr
I'd still put that classic steel folding stock on it though, because it makes my dick hard.

>>34675745
Mostly because it's more cost effective and weight effective. There's a reason the ruskies till use 7.62x39 fairly commonly. SF in particular are supposed to use it a lot.

>>34677920
Russian SF largely use 5.45x39mm and 9x39mm these days.

>>34677844
I'd definitely put the classic stock on it. Looks so much better.

>>34676207
It needs to be modified to fit. The people at Coppercustom and some others are doing it.

Have a Galil Ace in 7.62 x 51. Have not shot it yet. Fairly solid in construction but the front hand guard feels a bit flimsy. Ergonomics are more refined than the AK. Charging handle, sights, magazine lockup, etc, are superior. I'm concerned about whether a scope will hold zero on the top cover but with a 7.62 x 39 gun it doesn't matter since in that caliber it's just a red dot gun and you can mount it forward of the top cover like everyone else does.

I do not have a Bren and have never seen one in person.

>>34676240
Israelis always design their guns with shitty triggers. I have no idea why, but I think it was intentional. You have to handle Israeli guns differently. Different grip and you have to mash the trigger and generally be more forceful when manipulating it. The balance on their guns are different and so you can get away with that. You handle them in that way and you'll be more accurate and they'll work more reliably. It's counterintuitive but it works. That's true for my Uzi, Tavor, and Galil.

>>34676207
making a heavy gun even heavier with that foreend famalam

>>34679801
this sounds like horseshit
a bad trigger is a bad trigger is a bad trigger

>>34679801
>it's bad on purpose
no

>>34679885
>replacing a railed metal fore-end with a plastic handguard makes it heavier

>>34679801
>I have no idea why, but I think it was intentional
I think it's the notion of safety, consider also their preferred carry is with an empty chamber.

You can see similar things with Bundeswehr issued G3 rifles, they were supposed to have pretty stiff and heavy triggers because it was felt it was safer (they had some really obscene drop-test I recall).

On one hand, it seems retarded, but on another hand, 'Military Intelligence' is a joke for a reason. Applies doubly so if you're looking at a conscription based army, gonna have lots of not very smart dudes carrying those guns.

>>34679885
I don't know the reason why they are and only speculated, but these guns are exactly as I described. If you have one, try manhandling it like I suggested and see what results you get. I've seen the same thing too many times when people used to shooting normal guns try my Israeli guns to think it's just me.

>>34674516
Well faggot that really depends on if you want 7.62x39.

I've never seen a fucking 805 in 7.62x39.

I own a fucking bren. It's like a SCAR but 15lbs heavier. Good shooter. Does what a $750ish AR can do for $900 bucks more.

The bren is meh.

Get the new jew on the block or one of those PTR AK type shits.

>>34674516
Take this from someone who truly loves AK's of all shapes and sizes and especially likes the 7.62x39mm cartridge.

Get the 805. You can choose between STANAG or G36 magwells, giving you options for customization and can save you money if you choose the STANAG configuration as they are cheap and readily available. Its also superior to the ACE ergonomically, it handled well for me and I found it to be more accurate.

>>34675248
It's Phil. Everything he posts is either retarded, pointlessly offensive, or both.

>>34679801
It's a military gun, all military guns have heavy triggers by design for safety & reliability reasons.

>>34680557
Even in a professional army, soldiers will still act like retards from time to time. Remember, there's more to soldiery than shooting a gun.
Having a heavy trigger is a safety mechanism, you don't want a private's gun going off unless he's very deliberately pulling the trigger.
Same reason police-issue pistols are often double-action-only or are tuned to have heavy triggers (NYPD Glocks).

>>34681658
>It's like a SCAR but 15lbs heavier.
Don't listen to this dumb nigger. It's literally less than a pound heavier. I'd go with the Bren over the Galil ACE solely because the ACE has some really shitty design choices like the rubber buffer required to keep the bolt carrier on the rails, the buffer tube retained by fucking nothing with the bolt carrier removed, and the stock that rattles.

>>34675860
>The Czech magazine has been around for 10 years and there haven't be any complaints about its strength.
wrong. they asked for STANAG mags and all 805s and the new 806 use them now. Only reservists rifles (about 2k) have the G36 mag.

AR15 mags are well sorted. the clue should be that Australia switched from the steyr/Lithgow AUG mags (superior imo) to magpul made AUG mags.

it's purely an indefensible snowflake opinion. which is fine.

>>34683554
>AR15 mags are well sorted.
Not him, but they are not. They're strong enough, but 30 round AR magazines dealing with a straight magazine well is retarded and why they've needed at least 4 revisions and 40 different aftermarket magazines to become reliable. Literally every other 5.56 magazine doesn't do this dumb shit, except the French but they're French.

>>34683617
the only mags legitimately comparable to a Lancer are AUG mags. every iteration from then on has been a step backwards. that's why everyone uses STANAG now.

>>34674833
No mags.

>>34683678
Oh wait I thought it was HK33 clone.

PTR32 god-tier.

>>34683656
>the only mags legitimately comparable to a Lancer are AUG mags
Literally every magazine had superior feeding reliability without needing 4 revisions. It's the biggest flaw of the AR-15 design, unless you're one of those folding stock whiners.
>STANAG
Let's not pretend anyone wants that abortion. It's not a STANAG item.

AR-15 30 round magazines are a 'works well enough' thing, not an ideal.

>>34677475
No wall. No crisp break. Long takeup. Long overtravel. Long reset. Simple as that.

>>34682748
Milspec AR trigger blows the Galil ACE out of the water. Bren trigger too.

>>34683692
>AR-15 30 round magazines are a 'works well enough' thing, not an ideal.
wrong. not sure why you seem to think revising literally the first magazine ever made for 5.56 over 60 years is a bad thing. ar15 mags are the most size efficient mags out there. nothing comes close even when comparing it to something like 5.45.

there are only 2 mags out there worth consideration, AUG or STANAG. g36/550 mags are heavy, bulky trash prone to breakage.

>>34683617
>AR mags
>needed at least 4 revisions and 40 different aftermarket magazines to become reliable.
There is so much fucking stupidity in this godforsaken thread, AR mags have been reliable since fucking Vietnam

>>34674516
Get the CZ. Stay away from jew shit.

>>34684230
Is there really any difference between jews and czechs?

>>34684289
Fair enough

>>34683058

8.42 lbs 805

7.2 lbs 17s

Less than a pound. Fucking kek. Calling me a nigger when you can't count.

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Between the 2 go CZ

>>34684559
805 is 8.42lbs LOADED. A 17S is not 7.2lbs, it's 8lbs unloaded, the same as the 805. The 805 receiver could support a .308 Winchester conversion, it was offered to the Czech military but they decided not to bother with that.

>>34684597
Does the ACR stock weigh more than the stock stock?

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>>34684815

Alright CZ fags, I didn't want to have to do this. Now admit that all CZ does is make existing ideas heavier and charges less for them than their competitor.

BHP,
SCAR,
Benelli,
I could go on.

>>34685279

Iwi or IMI or whatever, does essentially the same thing...

Tavor,
Jericho,
Etc
Etc

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>>34685279

To illistrate just how fucking heavy that is, here's an LMT SBR 12.5" gas piston, monolith (pre-light weight upper, so the heavy one) with an aimpoint PRO, DD irons, a surefire, vtac mount, and an MVG. Oh yeah, AND a sico specwar 7.62 that weighs nearly 2 lbs all by itself.

>>34685279
>thread 34674516, where shitty snowflake opinions go to die
Noice

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>>34676048
>classic aesthetic is best aesthetic
Anyone know where I can by the better version of a galil? You know, a galil SAR? What is /k/'s opinions on that?

>>34674833
>>34674912
>>34675026
What's the mag compatibility like on the PTR32? I know Circle 10s won't fit

>>34685882
They seem to fidget with steel magazines, a bit tough to get into some rifles, and some experience sporadic feeding failures with theirs.

They handle Bakelites and MagPuls just fine though.