Duty vs Freedom

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>wanting to destroy the zone and not wanting to exploit the scientific research that could be done there.

>>34674394
theres some quote about watering a tree
and one about growing grass

>>34674394
Loners.

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>>34674394
My personality and behavior makes me more suitable for Freedom, but my beliefs and loyalties lie with Duty. Fuck the Zone and everything in in.

>>34674394
>no fun allowed super serious slavs who hate their lives vs westernized chill dudeweedlmao slavs
Principles aside, why would anyone pick duty? They're entirely unfun to work with.

Buncha fucking memelords, the pair of them. If you actually wanted to preserve the zone, you'd join the ecologists or monolith. If you actually want to destroy the zone, you'd be better served to join Clear Sky. Freedom and Duty are both stagnant ineffectual poser factions with no chance of achieving their expressed goals.

>>34674394
Ecologists

>>34674469
nice slavshit weapons and sturdy armor

>>34674469
Because you can only get the best and most satisfying weapon in the game (sniper vla) when you work with them.

as far as my current run goes, they have both been utterly erradicated like rats by the mercs.

seriously, i can't enter bar, my framerate nosedives from all the corpses.

>>34674469
I always got the impression that it was rare for people to just join Duty and their fresh membership mostly came from military deserters or soldiers who were trapped and left for dead in the zone, since military would be fired on by most factions and wouldn't let them get close enough to ask for an application form. So they go the only place that would accept them, Duty. At least in SoC, the marked one is only allowed even into their base because of special request by barkeep, so he was likely the only non-mil guy given the chance to join since the time of CS.

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>>34674394
Clear Sky.

>>34674469
Freedom will take just about anybody, and as the name implies, gives them more freedom that duty does. This is why you see Freedom guys hanging around their areas smoking weed all the time. They may be more friendly and westernized, but their lack of discipline will likely leave you with a bunch of baked Ivans watching your back while stalking, as opposed to the ex-military guys of Duty.

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>>34674394
Duty.
The Zone is LITERALLY a tear in the Warp, there is no noosphere, those fucking commies ripped open the Warp.
Mutants? Fuck no, they's daemons.

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>>34674394
>He doesn't shout "Liberty or death!" at any opportunity

>>34674638

>literally visit the miracle machine at X-16
>literally visit the psi-emission laboratory in X-18
>literally visit the brain scorcher in X-19
>literally visit the monolith in the sarcophagus
>there's no noosphere

at least roleplay right you fag

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>>34674788
>psychic shit goes down
>anomalies/warp rifts
>"artifacts" that warp reality
If that ain't the Warp you're a heretic.

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Get off my zone you fucking hippies

>>34674469
In a real world situation, The Zone would be a genuine threat that should be eradicated.

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>>34674865

It's not a dimensional warp, there's no dimension of creepy crawlies crossing over. The noosphere is literally the layer of psychical white noise, all the thoughts and ideas on the planet's biome flowing over and travelling across it, and our own nightmares come alive when mankind and nature's negative thoughts, fear and anger get tangled in this alestorm in the noosphere called the zone.

Reality got fucked but that doesn't mean it's demonic in nature, you can't actually erradicate it by closing some kind of portal, it's not so simple. The noosphere has an open wound that needs to heal back together, poking the zone and inducing more and more emissions doesn't help, the whole point of the new age bullshit is that mankind as a whole needs to chill it's shit and trascend for this hole to stop leaking.

To erase the zone you need to end all wars, injustice, suffering and fear world-wide.

>>34674865
>As usual, 40k fags have to inject their gay tryhard boardgame into everything

>>34675080
Which sucks. I like 40k and all, but Stalker is so far removed from it it's not funny.

>>34674901
But fucking with the Zone is what cause blowouts and the Zone's expansion.

>>34675199
Isn't it visiting the wish granter that expands it?

>>34675260
Nope but going to the center of the Zone pisses it off something fierce and causes a huge fucking blowout that expands the Zone.

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>>34674880
Freedom has shit sorted out, it seems.

>>34674394
duty. freedom are literal communists. video game equivalent of antifa

>>34675199
That's because they're not fucking with it right. Killing the C-conciousness kills the zone.

>>34675337
As Call of Pripyat shows that is not true.

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>Not monolith
I hope you step into the witches jelly

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>>34675306
>freedom are literal communists

Svoboda is literally the nazi party of Ukraine though, they formed militias to fight communists in Donetsk in the past three years

Dutiers are just the Vatnik crypto-commie faction

>>34675467
this,

look at their patches

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>>34675531
http://stalker.wikia.com/wiki/Freedom

the duty traders sell copies of mein kampf if u play with some of the ukrainian and russian mods. freedom ideology is based more on marxism than right wing libertarianism some of the freedom leaders even had people killed for shooting mutants. i think the reason they gave them nato weapons was to symbolize the infiltration of marxism into the west

>>34674422
double dubs tell the truth

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Duty

but the Freedom camp in Clear Sky is pretty neat

>>34675614

>mods
>russian mods
>conjecture made by some wiki teenager faggot

no

Svoboda is a real party in Ukraine that used the same symbols and imagery since before the game's development, there's no arguing it.

if anything they're depicted as libertarian capitalists while duty is rigidly hierarchical and extremely devoted to their "cause".

god damn its about time we had a stalker thread. its only been 3 weeks.
Freedom all the way.

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This thread: /k/ debates ideologies and politics both real and fake for a fucking video game better than any /pol/ thread I have ever seen.

I love you /k/.

>>34674638
>>34674649
>>34674865
Stop making the other fiction universes look like shit by injecting shit in.

>>34675080
>>34675134
Listen newfag, I'm trying to get /k/ids to play stalker by explaining it by popular media, besides 40k is REALLY popular in Russia.

>>34674649
NC 4 LIFE NIGGA

>>34675801
Fuck off, Stalker a shit anyway I want a FPS Wasteland.

>>34674394
>loner

The only true stalker option.

>>34675357
Well, not really. The zone stopped expanding after Strelok shot the dudes in the pods, because the zone stopped being a conscious entity and started just being a random natural phenomenon.

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>>34675847
>stalker a shit

You're on the wrong board

>>34674394
i wanna join the guy using the rpg as a bat

>>34674472
Clear Sky was destroyed though

>>34675827
>I'm trying to get /k/ids to play stalker by explaining it by popular media, besides 40k is REALLY popular in Russia.

and STALKER is even more popular there, who gives a fuck.

get that /tg/ autism out of here.

>>34675061
What if we just hit it with all our nukes?

>>34676059
>literal tear in reality
>the correct way to go about it is to mend it
>you get the idea to stuff explosives into the rent
Dude

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>>34674472
>calls duty memelords
>says to join Clear Sky

Ya ochen seryezno nadeyus chto vui ne s'delyate'

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I like Duty's ideology better than Freedom's. Fuck their anarcho-communist bullshit.

But I do like that 5.56x45 NATO.

I basically chose Freedom because of their weaponry. They can still suck a dick.

>>34676506
See. This is precisely the reason I play duty. You get all the real fucking nato you want from the corpses of your enemies.

>>34676506
>anarcho-communism
Just because they aren't military dropouts larping a military doesn't make them anarcho-communists.

>>34675854
>>34675337
Weren't the C-Consciousness trying to repair the damage to the nu-sphere? As I remember, their first attempts as the C-Consciousness at manipulating the nu-sphere were disastrous, then trying to cover everything up and keep people out was just making it worse.

>>34676543
>military dropouts larping a military
This is among people with brains known as militia or paramilitary

>>34676568
*noo-sphere. Not Nu-sphere.

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Freedom is litteraly Ancar.

>>34674394
I never joined either side.
Feels Loner man.

>>34676506
>Fuck their anarcho-communist bullshit.

they're not trying to do away with property, in fact they mostly own their own shit, they're anarcho-capitalists.

>>34676568
No, they were lying. That's what they said they were, but they weren't. The Zone only came into being because the scientists had managed to directly connect seven (nine?) people, forming the original C-Conciousness.

Haven't you ever wondered why so many of the mutants were, you know, actually functional? Radiation doesn't do that. It just kills you, or makes your kids into some kind of horrible downie cripple. Every single mutant in the zone was consciously engineered by the C-Conciousness to keep the zone clear of as many people as possible, so they could use it as their own personal playground. Because here, they were gods.

And that's why they were atually working to expand the zone by delaying every blowout for as long as possible: This is basically like edging when you're masturbating; the resulting eruption is much harder than when it just straight up happened naturally. That's why in the first two games every blowout was a real big deal and why in CoP it was just ever five minutes. As a result, int eh first twog ames the zone grew a bit every time tehre was a blowout and in CoP it just ahrmlessly dissipated the stored up energy.

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>>34676619
My nigga
Why destroy the zone when you can make a profit.
Get to explore the zone. Meet great people. Sell artifacts to the scientists. Have a nice comfy drink with your friends.
And when the time comes sack chernoble when the time comes.
Also shoot some fucking people who are in my god damn way.

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>>34675467
nty senpai, these guys are spoopopy

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>>34674394
Neither, live simple civilian life and do krokodil

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>>34677104
>The canister on his lower back powers the hydraulics on his exosuit AND filter

>>34674422
This, the only thing i believe in is my Vintar BC.

The zone is not a gift nor a curse, it's a mistake that has to be solved.

>>34677244
:thinking:

Sounds like you should be with Duty dumbass.

>>34677578
At first i thought the same when i first started playing the game, but there was something about them that i didn't liked, i still can't put my finger on it, but i think it has to do with the fact the they're a bunch of extremist ex-military guys who think that they're hot shit but still struggle to fight against a faction of literal hippies. That and the fact that they're too stupid to benefit from the zone.
I'm kinda agree with Duty's goal, but not with them, the same way i agree with the scientist goal but not with them.

>>34676740
Freedom doesn't know what they are. Freedom doesn't have a real ideology beyond:
1. The Zone must not be Destroyed, but instead Preserved
2. We must be allowed to exploit the Zone for personal profit and 'scientific advancement'

They're probably all pawns of corporate interests.

>>34677769
As such, there probably are lots of communists and anarchists, and also maybe even libertarians or capitalists, amongst their ranks. But for the most part, they're just profiteers. They're not even idealists, they're just mindless.

>>34674394
Half of Freedom are stoned retards, but they're the best fit ideologically. Probably go with Clear Sky if they weren't wiped out by the C-Consciousness. Actually competent, not dogmatic, and get a pretty decent armory once they mobilize outside of the swamp.

>>34677116
Except people can't just leave the Zone. Some are criminals or deserters that can't go back, others won't leave until they can make enough money for their families. Others feel they have a duty to the zone or to the people in or around it.

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Why bother fighting a pointless war between two factions that can't even get an edge on each other? If you want to get things done, the lonely road seems to be the only road that changes.

>>34675061
>To erase the zone you need to end all wars, injustice, suffering and fear world-wide.

Well, looks like it's here to stay. Let's go blast some commies and profit on this shit.

>>34675847
Have you tried not being shit at it?

>>34677868
Why would anyone leave the zone? For snatch? Maybe?

>>34678755
You'd think the Bandits would smuggle in hookers or something. That's a profitable business.

>>34678797
They held Loners as slaves, so it probably isn't out of there moral system to keep "other" types of slaves.

Duty

Also, I have a problem where I see a gun on the ground no matter how shitty it is, I have to pick it up and take it back to the market. I guess my rationale is all used guns deserve a good loving home.

I have a problem.

>>34679145
That's not a problem.
All guns deserve to be loved and they are all beautiful in their own ways.

>>34674436
I'm the exact opposite. I'm not a stoner at all, but I love Freedom's stance that the Zone should be exploited.

>>34677792

you mean sensible realists?

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>>34674422
>>34674405
My dudes, loners are where it is at. Keep your circles small and not getting caught up in faction wars all while enjoying your own personal freedom.

>>34675951
>implying /tg/ doesn't love Stalker

Let me guess, you heard some kids at the lunch table discuss 4chan and you hopped on? Lurk some more newfag.

>>34681678

/tg/ is fucking dead, anon. Nothing good comes from there anymore, it's once fertile fields are cracked dirt, it's former cities are smoldering, buried mounds, and it's ancient people are wretched and undone.

anyone from there should be returned to their cursed nation, they bring foul pestilence with them.

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>>34674394
>anything but loner or monolith

what is best assault rifle in coc? all the 556s suck

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mercenaries uber alles
>be merc
>shoot a couple of stalkers for a bounty
>find an artefact or something for a rich businessman
>leave hellhole
>get paid big money
>swim in bitches

there are only two kinds of people in the zone; BESTenaries and WORM FOOD

>>34681748

any 7.62x51

there's nothing you can't drop with real fucking NATO.

>>34674576
This
Clear Sky is the comfiest faction

>>34674519
Not true. You can find one that spawns randomly in a storage container with a hatch in the back right corner of the base.

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>not wanting to be in perfect harmony with the zone

>>34679215
I got in an argument with my gf yesterday when I explained that my feelings regarding saving milsurp from bubba were the same as her saving pitt bulls from redguards

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>>34683026
>saving pitt bulls from redguards

>>34675767
Anyone have info on the patch?

>>34683118
http://www.soviet-power.com/other-militaria/embroidery-patches-russian-army-stalker

>>34682933
info on hoodie?

>>34684789
I got it off red bubble

>Not being a merc, likely funded by cia

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>>34675635
Every step a new dilemma in the Zone.

>>34685125
I actually would read a fanfic about the CIA hiring the Mercenaries to investigate the Zone and the C-Consciousness.

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>>34674394
Loner

Do jobs for both sides for twice as much pay, factioncucks swerve

Duty or Military is the way to go.

>>34676230
'I very seriously hope that you do not do'?

My Russian is poor but does that even make sense?

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>>34676785
>the entire world could have become a Zone
Fuck I made a mistake capping those guys

>>34687150
I don't think that's a good idea. Reminder: the C-Consciousness only bothered to keep up the mysterious facade because they were, objectively speaking, vulnerable to outside assault. When you park a high-power artillery piece outside the zone, anybody with info on what the C-Consciousness is could just pound the shit out of it and blow them up eventually

If the zone had expanded to cover the whole world, likely the C-C would have dropped all pretense and just acted like the madmen with god-complexes that they are. They'd have mutated people at will and foced everyone to worship them like Monolith did.

>>34687150
>Fuck I made a mistake capping those guys
Nah, all you did was make the place more unstable and it still expands everytime the place lets loose a very deadly fart

>not monolith

Hey so which mods do you guys use? I used to play with mods, but whenever I try to install the arsenal one it crashes my game. I can't play with the mirrored guns.

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Best guns, best camo, best faction.

>>34687100
They don't-ski think-ski it be-ski like it is-ski, but it do-ski.

There. Flawless Russian.

>>34675852
Same here

Loner 4 life

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>pirate stalker
>play the shit out of it
>a year later or so
>see it for cheap at a summer sale
>buy all three games
>none of them work
Why are slavs allowed to code?

>>34689552

This is why you should have listened when everyone told you to fucking pirate them and never buy them.

>>34676785
Did you have a stroke by the end of your paragraph?

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>>34681856
Fucking BRUTAL gif.

>>34674394
They both suck.
Freedom have aesthetic and coolness, but are fucking antifa in reality,
Duty dress like antifa but have the attitude somewhere in-between the LAPD and an ATF agent. That drives a lifted RAM, with a US flag defaced with blue paint.

Fuck them both.

>>34677769
Very THIS

The Zone, its anomalies and phenomena are too dangerous to let out into the world, things not meant for the hands of men. One day you sell an artifact to the scientists. A month later they publish a white paper. Three months later they license their patent to Silicon Valley and six weeks later half a billion people have a phone app spraying Zone born mind control sub-acoustics at them.

Maybe it's because I went to the opera with Delta Green before I ever STALKed, but Duty all the way.

>>34677769
When it comes down to it, who mans the Barrier, Duty or Freedom?

Duty talks a good game, but its Freedom that actually does the fighting for Stalkers.

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>>34674394
The original leader of Duty shot himself in the head. And his original mission was to shove nukes into the zone. I'll stick with Freedom.

>>34675847
You mean Fallout?

Loner > clear sky > Mercenary > Ecologist > Freedom > Duty > Monolith > Bandits > Renegades

>>34674394
>suitable camouflage vs black shit
Freedom wins
>self-governing vs military subordination
Draw
>mix of soviet and western stuff vs only postsoviet weaponry
Freedom wins
>use and study the zone vs destroy the zone
Freedom wins.
>secret ties with foreign capital vs pretty obvious ties with postsoviet governments
Draw? Or victory of Duty? I can't decide for myself on this question.

Actually, I prefer being a loner, but my sympathies are on the side of Freedom.
>>34674581
>ex-military guys of Duty.
Not neccesary. Duty accepts lots of loners without army experience. This "no civilians allowed" attitude works only with some airsoft teams, but not with the zone

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>>34690226
>Delta Green
Man, a Delta Green/STALKER crossover would be an incredibly fun ride, especially if a little of Metro's flavor of spookiness got added to the mix as well.

>>34674394
Ecologist Faction is the true red pill.

I have to be neutral. I dig Duty because the bar is my favorite place in the zone. But my personality goes more towards freedom because I never want the zone to go away and become a tourist attraction.

>>34688014

I think that is Polish urban-flecktarn or something.

>>34687420

Been playing with NS CP 2.0 It's basically an entirely new game with a new story line (that is longer than vanilla story line) when you beat the first one.

>>34692978
But the zone keeps expanding. Do you want the whole world to become the zone you greedy bastard ?

>>34681668
This stal/k/er knows whaaaddduupp

>>34690226

so how do you expect to ever do anything about it?

you think you can shoot a natural disaster into submission? Duty doesn't even let the ecologists do their thing. They're fucking retards and likely foreign stooges too.

>*cough*Novorrusya

>>34694715
Duty gives the artifacts they find to the ecologists for research. But on the wiki it says they want to use what the ecologists find to destroy the zone.

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Well i bet you think you got me cornered, but guess what

I'm a Radical Centist B-R-O

Yea you heard me right!

People who hold serious beliefs and convictions are Fucking Looosers

Yo kno what, that means i can just criticize everything without holding any beliefs myself so that means you cant criticize me in return

Nice try tho

>t. loner