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I'm stuck between two carry options folks let me know what you guys think is the better of the two or alternatives I haven't considered ...

First Option:

Main carry :

>H&K USP 9 Fullsize

Pros:
>durable
>reliable
>I like either lem or the stock da/sa
>very comfy controls
>can add factory match components to improve trigger
>aesthetic as fuck
>satisfies inner wehraboo

Cons:
>less rounds than other guns its size
>no light rail
>I don't love the trigger
>thicker slide than other options

If I went this route the gun I'd take on my commute would be a p2000sk for reasons that should be self evident

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>>34670436
Fuck forgot pic

Also forgot to mention I'd carry the USP in a ctac and keep the 2ksk in a comptac paddle holster but I'd only put it in if I stopped somewhere after work

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>>34670436
Second option

Glock 34 with X300

Pros
>I really like the glock trigger, I find it more pleasurable to shoot than either lem or da/sa
>can mount a wml, which also sits flush with the muzzle (one of my fetishes)
>I like the aggressive grip angle
>thinner slide than USP though other dimensions save for length are identical
>also reliable and durable, though I think the USP is slightly moreso
> more sighting options
>cheaper magazines

Cons
>not very aesthetic
>I prefer paddle mag releases
>doesn't feel as special as the USP
>gen 4 finish isn't as durable as teflon or USP


A glock 26 would replace the P2ksk

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>>34670511
>>34670448
I suppose it's going to come down to wether I decide a wml is important and which one I shoot better when I rent them side by side at the range.

Feel free to post your carry setups, what you're planning on carrying when you get your liscence, what you think of my options or just call me a faggot

What do you guys think of WML on carry guns?

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>>34670539
Hey faggot

>>34670561
They're a meme

>>34670436
Go with what makes your dick hard, they're both good and you'd shoot either just as well once you start dedicating range time with them. So basically get the USP and never look back

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>>34670583
Also you're right in assuming the USP would be more reliable, the p30 which doesn't even have the dual recoil Spring went 91000 rounds with only 4 malfunctions. I don't think a block could pull that off

Ruger LC9s Pro, Federal HST 147gr, Stealth Gear Revolution holster.

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>>34670583
Thanks negro - yeah the only other polymer wonder i find good looking is the p99 ski ramp, but I don't think they're as robust.

Steyr M9A1
Winchester PDX1
Alien Gear

>>34670370
What you want OP is a genuine m4 Alaskan survival derringer.

Dont let all these gay fags try to talk you down. Anything less than 45-70 won't be enough. You should prepare your anus for rape if you're carrying anything less.

>45-70 is the only government you can trust

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>>34670607
Nice - how do you like the trigger?

Go-to now is Glock 43 in a VS Ghost using Hornady Critical Defense. Probably gonna up to the Steyr S9 I just bought recently once I get around to buying a holster for it though.

>>34670630
Kek 45-70 gubmint might be the most satisfying caliber to say other than maybe 30 ought six

>>34670629
Is your Steyr reliable? I heard the early ones were cheap and finnicky. They're certainly aesthetic and are a good fit for a ayylmao Holster

>>34670656
>Is your Steyr reliable?

Yes. They fixed all the problems with the Gen 4s.

>>34670649
Go critical duty with the s9, theyre better than the defenses once you get much last 3 inches of barrel

>>34670670
It's only .4 inches shorter than the M

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>>34670370
>Beretta Px4 Storm Inox 9mm (15+1)
>Hornady critical duty
>Urban Carry G2

Nice compact pistol with a large capacity and looks quite handsome. No issue with reliability and she just feels tight in my hands. Urban carry is a bit of a meme but I like it because not matter what you're wearing you can conceal as long as you have jeans on. Printing is very subtle and there isn't a soul that would finger it for a gun. It looks like a phone or more likely, a half rigid cock. So no one is going to keep staring to figure out which. Absolutely fucked if I need to draw sitting down.

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USP9 Compact
FEDERAL HST
>still looking for one

>>34670670
I probably will go with something different eventually, I think the critical defense was all that was around when I went to pick up SD ammo. I've heard some people sing praise of Federal Hydra-Shoks too but idk if that's another thing that works better in certain barrel lengths or whatnot; really I just haven't had time to do a ton of research yet, and I figure most will still kill someone dead enough with decent shot placement

>>34670511
Go with the Glock OP, despite the contrarian spirit of 4chan they really are that good.

>>34670606
ahhh good to see the hkfanbois are out in force tonight. There an hk circle jerkoff already just check the catalog you fucking faggot

>>34670697
That's why I said go with the duty rather than defense

>>34670370
Are Ian and Karl a couple?

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>>34670705
The two tone looks handsome, nice ammo choice

>urban carry
Oh god that looks like a meme. I had always figured urban carry was PC for carrying like a nigger (no holster, barrel pointed at the felon factories)

>>34670511
That flush WML is pretty Gucci tbqh famalamadingdong

Also Glock 19 Gen 4 with a Surefire XC1 and Federal 150gr HST Micro ammo

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>>34670765
Karl would definitely be Ian's bull if they were.
In all seriousness I wish Ian would shack up with the girl he did a video with, with the really shitty audio, drops Karl and starts operating with her using historical firearms like the good old days on inrange

>>34670723
Hydrashoks are okay but their are better designs that have come out since '88. HST, gold dot, pdx1, ranger T, federal bonded or ranger bonded are great choices. Barnes xpb is my personal favorite especially loaded warm by Corbon

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>>34670768

>>34670370
>M&P9 2.0
>115gr CorBon 9mm +p JHP
>Mexican carry. With how crazy agressive the stippling is, the gun stays in place with friction and a tight belt alone.

That corbon is some mean shit. It's hitting 1350fps and probably 400 ft. lbs out of a 5 inch barrel.

>>34670785
I agree I think it looks awesome, I also love the exposed barrel

They'll probably work fine but I've heard bad things about the micros

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTd1lNx_TQ

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>>34670826
Forgot pic

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>>34670768
The first one definitely had it's flaws. The biggest being catapulting the gun which we've all seen the gif. It wasn't quite as bad as that but still possible to fumble the gun. Now there is a big fucking magnet sewn in that keeps it in place no matter how hard you are panic pulling. Hell the fucker magnetized my barrel actually. I had a few IWB holsters and I just never felt fully comfortable wearing them. Constantly felt like I was printing or if I did anything with my arms my shirt might lift up. I did select the Px4 because of those reasons you mentioned. Wanted a manual safety with a DA hammer so there was no fucking way I could blow off my balls.

On the unrelated size having your pistol rubbing up against your junk with a few layers of fabric inbetween feels pretty awesome. You're at half chub all day.

>>34670818
Holy fucking KEK

Is this you anon?

>>34670826
God tier ammo choice negro, god tier.

>>34670853
nah, it's from a post the firearm blog made

>>34670846
>having your pistol rubbing up against your junk with a few layers of fabric inbetween feels pretty awesome

FUCK I can't wait to start carrying

>>34670853
Nvm

>>34670844
That m&p actually looks pretty sexy anon - the safety's a good idea for Mexican carry.

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P320 with the basic bitch OWB holster it comes with. I was surprised at how not-bad it is for a freebie.

/k/ hates the P320 with the fury of a thousand suns (presumably rooted in Sig winning the M17 contract), but it's a great gun.

Just ordered a railed grip module for it so I can add an XC1, and will have a custom kydex shop that's local whip something up for me.

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>>34670370
With a leather cross-draw holster

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>>34670905
Who could hate it after this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTRjXD7AVU

>>34670885
I know, right? It's got to be the long slide. I was going to get a no safety version, but the safety is really positive and snappy so I figured why not.

>>34670905
>/k/ hates the P320 with the fury of a thousand suns (presumably rooted in Sig winning the M17 contract), but it's a great gun.
That's just booty blasted glockbabbies, the worst sort of Glock fan. The P320 is good.

>>34670946
Oh it's the long slide

Why can't they make it in black?
>yes I know I'm a boring fuck

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>>34670511
>>34670436
Any opinions, suggestions, experience?

Thanks

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Not retarded enough to try it, but wouldn't CCing a sawn-off shotgun with all the correct paperwork/tax stamp in a trench coat or something be legal under technicality?

>>34671336
In some states yes.

>>34671336
You'd probably have to check with the county sheriff you got the tax stamp approved by/are getting it approved from, because while you're right that technically that's legal, I wouldn't trust any police or jury to uphold it on technicality only. Unless the sheriff can give you a good explanation as to why you can CC it, I would just leave it at home.

>>34670370
Pls no bully
Lcp2
90gr speee gold dot
Lcp2 factory holster
Pros:
>its a gun
>its tiny
>so far reliable
>decent trigger compared to other similar sized guns
>its still a gun
>comes with a holster
>made in murica
>ruger
>like half a pound unloaded
>its a gun
> $280
Cons
>its tiny
>no intimidation factory if this could be conceivably used
>only comes with one mag
>only 6+1
>lmao380
>slightly more expensive to shoot than a 9mm
>ruger
>its fucking tiny

But overall its easy as shit to shove in my pocket and forget about it.
Don't need to wear a gun belt or worry about wardrobe for concealment, and if you run on the carry 24/7 policy its much easier to conceal than a larger gun.
Since I live in an area where swim trunks and basketball shorts are best to wear during the summer i still can comfortably conceal.

>>34671603
>>no intimidation factor
People tend not to analyze the diameter of the bore they're staring down--they're usually thinking of how to avoid getting fucking shot

If you somehow run into an absolute stone cold BAMF who recognizes your caliber and can calculate the odds of you getting a terminal hit vs him disarming you first, even a full size .45 isn't going to help you, you're in the shit

>>34671635
I'm not thinking so much as bore diameter more so physical size since 9mm and 380 are the same.
I'll mostly side with what you said but if someone was asked whats more intimidating an lcp2 or a g19 its pretty obvious.

Again i cant think of any situation where people recommend pulling a gun for intimidation so seriously try to find a different way, mostly deescalate if possible.

>>34671660
Still, most people think "oh crap, GUN" not "hmm that's a 380, only 6 shots, I can take my chances if I'm within 21 feet"

Because I'm a poor fag I carry a Taurus 605 with 127 grain JHP.
It's not ideal but 5 shots of .357 mag is better than nothing

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Some kids stole my brandy apples
Woke up just 3:00 and saw it. Got my A2 and chased them off with literally
>HIPPITY HOPPITY GIT OFF MY PROPERTY
One of the boys hollered back,"sorry", beating feet down the alley
I had to respond but all I had was
>like hell you are
So natuaraly I follow to investigate.
Found their bycicle and sacrificed it into my garage. Pic related - the sacrifice.

How's your morning commute going /k/

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>>34671926
>>34671930
Push spent cartridges into the apples and leave them in place. They will come back eventually to find their bikes and will discover a pentagram with bullets in the apples they sought to steal.

They will never tell their parents out of fear and you become a neighborhood legends of and get no more bullshit for years.

>>34671947
Will attempt.
GP11 brass is all I have in hand.

>>34670370
i just never leave my house so i have my AR and body armor on all the time.

>>34671971
awaiting results

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>>34671971
The monument has been modified and a prayer spoken for the /k/ube

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>>34670370
Kahr p380 (because it's so insanely tiny, and inexpensive)
3 mags. 2x federal hst 1x winchester white box fmj
chambered round is hst, mag in is hst
Desantis nemesis pocket holster

>>34671697
maybe against the police, but they're terrible shots

>>34672022
Ime win white box is fouling central. When I shoot it from my FEG I get what oooks like metallic flakes all along my arms.

>>34672036
it's very much a just in case mag. God forbid I'm mugged by someone in body armor, but just in case I'm trying...
Considering the meme rounds xtreme penetrators.
depends how they feed/if they really penetrate

>>34672043
Test a mag of ammo.
I cared a notice 213 with Hornady crit duty only to find it jammed.

Now have a FEGtastic clone of a BHP that handles it well.

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>>34670370
Just got this for CCW purposes. Leaves a bit to be desired, but I'm on a budget and it's partially collectible in a way, so I'm happy with it so far.

Only got it about a week ago, so no defense ammo yet, but I'll see what I can find for 9x18

>>34672062
mine fed my whole test 6 rounds, not that that's exactly solid testing. the white box brass definitely sheds or something, my 9 does that too, but you're def right I should try to feed 50 rounds of whatever piercing ammo I pick in the end (:
So far I just haven't had the range time/bought a whole set of test boxes of ammo... Which kinda just means I've got a fun weekend coming up soon!

>>34672066
Also looking for a good concealable holster for this thing if anyone has some suggestions.

>>34672075
uh if I don't get mugged by someone with body armor between now and then

>>34670370
I carry a CZ82
Loaded with Hornady Critical Defense and a spare mag of Brown Bear FMJ.
Holster wise its a small sized fabric holster I got of Ebay and had to cut the bottom out to fit my CZ82.

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>>34671336
some places specifically say 'handgun' so if its not papered as a handgun, I dont think you can do it.

>on the other hand...

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>>34670561

If you can commit to it they are an excellent additional tool in the took kit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Ii29Q89Sg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3hI5fjNyI8

>>34670629
>ayyyylmao

Gun: HKP30L LEM (1 WML/Threaded Bbl 1 Stock)
Ammo: 124 grn Federal HST +P
Holster: KSG Armory Custom or JMCK "The George" (Both AIWB)

A few pics from out eternal EDC threads

>>34673801
I always liked your edc
Have you thought about adding a p30sk for deep concealment?


Also which should I choose, glock 34 with x300 or USP with no light

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>>34673820
I've got a P2000SK LEM but tbqhfam I've never had a problem with the P30L in AIWB

>Also which should I choose, glock 34 with x300 or USP with no light

My heart says the USP but my brain says the G34 - I'd go run a couple FBI Bullseye qualifier with both and see which one you score better with

>>34673837
Thanks

Hopefully HK releases a vp9l to make my decision a lot simpler

>>34673863
I want the VP9 OPF (or whatever it is - euro only atm) with the RMR cut and a long slide with a threaded bbl....hnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg

Gen 4 Glock 19 with Truglo tritium sights and a stipple job, double undercut, Federal HST 147gr JHP, one spare 17rd mag, maybe two if I'm feeling it. Carried in a Bravo Concealment Acer IWB.

>2017 CZ 75B
>reloaded 147g Montana gold w/ lapua brass
>generic IWB holster

>>34671336
Or you could just get a 590A1 Shockwave.

>>34670370
SCCY CPX1 with 147 grain JHP Winchester
or
CZ-82 with Silver Bear JHP

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Kahr PM9 in a Galco 2ND Amendment IWB loaded with 7 rounds of Federal 124 grain HST and extra mag of 8 rounds.

>>34670539
glock has my vote i carry a glock 19 in a sob deep concealment aiwb holster extra mag in small of back iwb with hornady +p crit duty rounds
in the winter i carry a 1911 sig w/ viridian light laser and wilson combat 10rd mags with rip rounds

>>34670749
yea crit duty is best for anything other than sub compact tiny pistols

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G19 with aplc or G43 when i'm feeling lazy, both in tuctite annex rigs.

Federal HST 124 grain +p in both guns