Are transgender soldiers really a burden? Why doesn't anybody

>>34662723
Yes. They aren't people.

Imagine the suicide rate of being both Trans and veteran

>>34662723
Serving in the military isn't a right.

>>34662723

>That picture
>Really is worth a thousand words

Anon look at those things in that picture, they are mentally unbalanced individuals. How could you trust something like that with your safety?

>>34662723
Implying trannies care at all about nation, country or people. They're there to make a statement and get gibs. Fuck em.

>>34662723

HAHAHA US military is a joke

>>34662723
>Woman looking thing with a cock takes shower with real women.
>Women see cock
>Cry sexual harassment
>"No Ze is just trans"
>Women: "oh thats ok then"
>Male shows upper body to females while in the field
>"WTF THATS AN ARTICLE 15"

>>34662723
>mentally ill
>give them guns

>>34662737
It's not like everybody else in the military is especially balanced. I imagine there's a lot of anger to be instrumentalized in trannies. Also you could them as shock troops in places that have a cultural fear of transgenders. Imagine the horror if a tranny squad halo drops into North Korea.

>>34662723
does the second person from the left cospley hitler?

also i dunno, they are supposed to take hormones and stuff and they look less like girls than even me if i use a bit of skin corrector to hide beard shadow

>>34662729
lol
this guy has it

>>34662734
this should be painted all over the country. if there is some liberal uprising from this or some shit

>>34662792
I find it amazing that liberals went from dodging the draft going to court to not have to fight to going to court in order to be allowed to fight.

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>for the longest time we'd rather give people who think they're the opposite gender/sex the ability to serve in our military and handle a firearm in it
>but we'd also gladly turn down someone who has been depressed, but had turned their life around and hasn't been depressed for years

>>34662762
do you mistake north korea for isis? oh well, isis troops recently themselves were caught crossdressing as women

i have read an article norks are pretty tolerable to fags etc as long as those aren't seen as influenced by the american way of life

>>34662804
>smoked a joint in high school - discharge
>sex change in in thailand - promotion

>>34662723
>Why doesn't anybody have the right to die for their own country?

You're not supposed to let the enemy kill you, dipshit. You join the military to kill for your country, not to die for it

>>34662723
>are quadruple amputee soldiers really a burden?

M8 if you want to die for your country, you have the right to shout "wew commifornia" and take a short walk off a tall building.

>>34662825
>medical records show you have asthma but you haven't used an inhaler in 10 years
>medically disqualified :)

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>>34662815
How does a north korean fag who hasn't been influenced by american culture look like?

Can't imagine how some north korean farmer would react if pic related landed on his field.

>>34662762
>being afraid of feminized men with ponytails
Keep deluding yourself tranny

>>34662727

>muslimbro

>"They aren't people"

Sometimes things are funny

>>34662729
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017/05/04/Study-shows-rising-rates-of-suicidal-acts-in-transgender-adults/4561493909781/

It keeps going up

>>34662827
I'm pretty sure officers send people to die all the time. If I send you to clean up a failed reactor it's not like I'm expecting you to live.

>>34662846
Pretty sure they just tried to disguise themselves in order to get away.

>>34662723
go away tranny.

>>34662723
Transgender anything is a burden. Fucking basket cases.

>>34662849
>47 accident worker deaths
>0 acute deaths at 3 Mile Island
>0 acute radiation poisonings at Fukushima Daiichi

Reactor accidents aren't that bad actually.

"Human robot" Liquidators actually had a pretty good survival rate and strict safety rules. Even the Soviets didn't want to waste troops cleaning up Chernobyl, since they needed them for at least long enough to finish the cleanup. Even in a suicide mission, the objective is not to die, it's just likely that you'll die while completing your objective or before you can get back to safety.

>>34662723
>Implying these fucks want to die for the country
When can we admit that the vast majority of military personnel just want muh free college and muh benefits and really would avoid combat at all costs?

>>34662902
*0 deaths at 3-Mile I should say, acute or otherwise.

>>34662836
>How does a north korean fag who hasn't been influenced by american culture look like?
i guess as a korean soldier lol

i think it was this article that i had read before they added this gay subscription only stuff https://www.nknews.org/2015/01/are-there-gay-people-in-north-korea/

there is a part of its text here
iirc further it was about lesbians and a bit about trannies
http://msmgf.org/are-there-gay-people-in-north-korea/

>>34662723
>Why doesn't anybody have the right to die for their own country


you do have the right, go buy a gun (with your rights) and shoot yourself

there is no "rights" for joining the military, they don't let in people who have burdening medical conditions (aka severe asthma), why should they accommodate any other medical conditions?

because they are mentally ill

>>34662933
>It’s tolerable for soldiers stationed on the military bases near neighborhoods. But soldiers who are stationed on military bases located in the middle of the mountains do not get to see women for 10 years.

>my older brother’s case, he says he hardly saw a woman during his 13 years of military service. He says he probably would have had to climb past seven-to-10 mountains to see a woman during military service.

>That’s why senior officers have been known take charge of “pretty boy privates.” Some of them might have been gay. But others may have done so not because they were gay but because they didn’t have any women around for so many years.

Haha, wow. North Korea is unreal.

>>34662902
>Reactor accidents aren't that bad actually.
they are dangerous with supposedly increased rate of cancer deaths though

consider a mere nuclear test in 50ss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbbob

>Plumbbob released 58,300 kilocuries (2.16 EBq) of radioiodine (I-131) into the atmosphere. This produced total civilian radiation exposures amounting to 120 million person-rads of thyroid tissue exposure (about 32% of all exposure due to continental nuclear tests).

>Statistically, this level of exposure would be expected to eventually cause between 11,000 and 212,000 excess cases of thyroid cancer, leading to between 1,000 and 20,000 deaths.[8]

the number of those "excess deaths" can differ extremely wildly from estimation to estimation

>>34662942
Why does it matter if I have asthma if I'm a POG rocking a desk doing shit some idiot with a perfect body can't do?

>>34662723
because its a mental disorder, and military is not the place for social experimentation

>>34662959
If it doesn't matter, then the job will have a PULHES score that says so.

>friend still in
>had to sit through a bunch of xir classes taught by lifer sncos that dont care
>now this

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH

they recalled his ass from leave to take these classes ahahahahah

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>>34662723
>Won't let me in the military for being non-suicidal bi-polar and capable of functioning off of meds
>Will let these walking psychopaths in

>>34662723
Shouldn't have forced the military to pay for your sex change surgeries.

>>34662723

The military isn't some social club you join to feel good about yourself. It's not about going to college or seeing the world. It's about war. It's about killing people and blowing shit up.

Unfortunately so many people have forgot that.

>>34662723
>Are transgender soldiers really a burden?
Let's see. Pvt. Shitbag and SPC Fuckhead now have to sit through another set of briefings on top of all of the other bullshit driven down from up top that they have to do driving already low morale through the floor. Facilities for training have to be changed to accommodate people who may or may not even join up which costs time and money. Almost every good NCO with half a brain and JO with potential looks at these problems and thinks to themselves "fuck this" while lining up an exit plan as soon as their contract is up. So now even more time and money has to be spent recruiting, training, and getting the newer guys experience to fill the gaps left. Oh, and now the military has to budget sex changes and hormone treatments for the mentally ill.

How could placating leftists so less than one percent of the population get the chance to serve for the political reason of "progress" possibly do any harm?

>>34662762

True, but these guys are emotionally compromised and have serious personally flaws which make them unsafe.

>>34662954
The reason those estimates vary so much is that we really don't know what will happen. We're finding more and more that it isn't the catastrophe we like to make it out to be though. Is it better that these accidents don't happen? Absolutely. It it the end of the world? Of course not. Some people's lifespans will be reduced from the increased exposure, some people won't have any issues. Radiation exposure is weird that way.

None of that really has anything to do with whether or not a soldier is there for the purpose of dying. If a soldier dies rather than holding a defensive position or taking an enemy position, they have failed.

>>34662723
>Bad for morale
>Actively taking drugs that reduce their combat effectiveness
>Emotionally and mentally unstable
>More expensive when you consider the extra accommodations they'll need
Those are the big bulletpoints that make it a bad idea. Still, I'll concede that they should be allowed to do any of the jobs women are good for; nothing that involves combat, whatsoever.

>>34662723
There are lots of pre-existing conditions, (some of them not life-threatening, ie asthma or heart issues) that disqualify someone for service. I don't see why this should be any different.

Severe enough hemorrhoids or hernias will DQ you from service. It's not only about paying for health care, it's about time missed and lingering issues etc.

I think it's pretty nice of Trump to consider "gender dysphoria disorder" nothing more serious than gout, diabetes, arthritis, or other joint condition... etc.

>>34662723
Last I heard, if you're trans and want to serve, just have to be done with your transition to join, ie HRT, all of the legal things like gender markers and your name, bottom surgery, any other surgeries you might want like top surgery, ffs, etc. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

>>34663167
Nope. You can serve and decide you are trans after joining. Its up to your commander when to let you go get your hrt and such.

>>34663353
Huh. I'm trans, and even I think that's pretty dumb. You should deal with your shit before you join up. Nobody needs a hormonal pizza faced horny tranny sharing a barracks with a bunch of fit dudes.

I thought the mentally ill couldn't serve in the military anyways.

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>mfw when our President said trannies shouldn't be in the military

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>>34663424
I'm sure you're completely normal and a functioning member of society.

Hey, just out of curiosity, who paid for your meds. And do you think people should join the military just so they can get their medical coverage.

>>34662723
Are flat feet really that much of a burden?

>>34662729
wait isn't that good thing? wont that cost the va less? maybe all veterans should be required to be trans.

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>>34662723
The last thread got deleted.

This one will too.

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>>34662835
delet please

>>34663691
Completely normal? Well I am on 4chan, so I dunno about completely normal.

I've pretty much paid for everything out of pocket, some appointments and things have been covered by my insurance, which I pay premiums for, and copays. I don't think it's right to sign up for the military just for access to tricare. If that's all you're there for, you're probably not going to be much of a soldier.

>>34663750
Mattis says it's crucial to ensuring the readiness and capability of the armed forces. It falls under military strategy regardless of whether you agree with it.

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>>34662734
>Serving in the military isn't a right.
Neither is being president but we still gave it to some faggot who wanted it so he could suck his boyfriend's dick better.

>>34662727
looks who's talking

>>34663838
I don't understand what comparison you're trying to make. Running for elected office and enlisting for armed service are very different.

>>34662723
All soldiers are a burden. Trannies are just a more visible burden.

>>34663838
>"""gave"""
Implying he didn't expertly navigate to the presidency against all odds using masterful media manipulation to get billions of dollars worth of free publicity... humiliating democrats and turning them into a party of whiny bitches who's immaturity is causing them to hemmorage normie voters.

By the way. Trump doesn't care about trannies one way or another. It's a taboo issue and has been absolutely poisonous to liberals. They just tried to rebrand to a populist worker party and Trump just said, "Nope, get back to talking about trannies... see you in 2018."

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>>34663790
Yes but are you qt

>>34663882
>8th DIMENSIONAL CHESS

>>34663901
That's pretty subjective, but I'm not about to post pics, so I guess you'll never know.

>>34663882
>masterful media manipulation
Sure thing Leddit. It definitely wasn't (((them))) you gave their Wall Street puppet the presidency.

>>34663882
You took the bait, retard.

>>34663935
Yes and no. Brilliant, but reactionary. You'll notice that CNN isn't really talking about this, but new media is exploding. Its very bad for the DNC, but Trump knows that social justice obsessed liberals will focus on it relentlessly. He's basically weaponized the fragile LGBT community against their handlers.

>>34663882
I think the issue's been pretty bad for conservatives too. Ben Shapiro saying in one breath that facts don't care about your feelings and that trannies shouldn't be allowed in the bathroom because it makes him uncomfortable in the next, so many Republicans supporting bills legislating who uses which bathroom while they go on about small governments and the gov keeping its nose out of people's business. Makes a lot of them look like hypocrites who only have small government individual liberty values when it's convenient.

>>34663986
>LE BASED INTER-DIMENSIONAL CHESS

>>34663990
Except much less shocking in practicality. The free market doesn't lie, it shines through all peopaganda... take a look at Targets stock price since they publicised their tranny bathrooms. The tranny stuff is taboo with normal people, no matter how much the media tries to tell you otherwise.

>>34664007
You sound angry and desperate. Explain how this could possibly hurt Trump aside from maybe losing some of 20 trans people who voted for him.

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>>34663950
You just had to reply. Eh whatever, it's not like im some kind of internet sugardaddy.

>>34663986
Did the meme wars spill over too much?.... I find that all these extremely pro lgbt people are usually just on the internet too much. They expose themselves to all this shit and go 'look! someone is being mean to me on the internet! THE HATE IS REAL!!' and don't realize it's the fucking internet. It was made for porn and rude posturing.

>>34662723
When I signed up, I had to go through a pretty intensive physical evaluation. They don't want you if you need extensive dental work, if you've ever had a back injury, have ever been diagnosed with a mental disorder from a psychiatrist, etc.

Why would they want someone who is literally the definition of mentally ill and needs expensive medications and surgery to keep them from killing themselves? Seems like a huge burden on the military healthcare system, desu.

To be fair, I also think this about women who enlist in the infantry and then immediately become pregnant.

>>34662762
>thinking men who are taking female hormones have anywhere near what is required physically to be elite soldiers

>>34662802
It happened somewhere around the time that the military became one giant jobs program with a very low risk of actually being injured or killed outside of combat infantry. They realized they were missing out on gibs.

>>34664026
It won't, and that's the problem. Something needs to be done about ZOG puppets (like Trump) in our government, and it begins with the people who (((elect))) them into office in the first place.

>>34663990
What happened is conservatives finally figured out how to use muh feelings in the same way libshits have been for years. Democrat faggots opened this pandora's box when they started huffing pure, unrefined identity politics and now they're pissed that white people are starting to use identity politics to their advantage.

>>34664028
>meme wars
You should've taken a bullet and be left to die in whatever made up war you """"fought"""" in.

>>34662723
fighting for your country is not a right

the military has correctly decided that when your identity politics adversely affects the mission that its the identity politics and not the mission that must be removed.

also trump timed this to coincide with a flurry of voting in the senate for replacing obamacare, the dems will be fielding calls from sjws all day and dealing with that mess of looneys while the republicans are voting

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>If you ever had a history of being depressed you're disqualified from joining the military forever

>But if you're a delusional tranny that has severe identity issues it's perfectly okay

>>34664096
Fucking this, I had a previous back injury and they shit their pants over that alone until they issued me a special waiver. For an enlisted man it would have been game over, the only reason I still got in was because my skills were in demand.

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>>34664081
Anon please I never said I (by the way you're using a ''''''''meme war meme'''''''' right now) fought in them; I just said they existed.

Try to step away from that edge, okay?
https://youtu.be/Hsiqv6BQiHQ?t=2m19s

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>>34662729
Don't around 50% of trannies off themselves? Holy shit.

Also they're fucking useless. Imagine being under mortar fire and your tranny NCO is too busy "dilating" it's wound to help out. They do that for around 3 hours a day I think.

I also wouldn't trust someone mentally unstable with my life.

>>34664096
They're a ticking time bomb.

>>34662723
Fuck transniggers

Trying to make the taxpayer pay for their bullshit dick chop

MAGA!

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>>34664160
>Dilating
That shit always makes me heave

>Literally have to """dilate""" for 1/8th your day because forever your body will view your """vagina""" as an open wound and attempt to heal it

>>34663990
Not allowing trannies in bathrooms is actually maming sure men can be kicked out of the womens bathroom like normal.

Its for keeping women and girls safe from men who will take advantage of shared bathrooms. Do you want some neckbeard popping into a locker room shower while your daughter/niece/gf/wife is in there and have no legal standing to kick him out?

Protecting women is as logical as it gets homeboy.

>>34664207
>women worsting this hard

It's like you're a feminist or something.

>>34662727
Takbir FPBP

>>34662723
When someones primary concern in life is sex they are going to be shitty at everything they do.

>>34664189
I know. It's disgusting. Anybody who says that that's normal is deluded. It's the definition of abnormal if your body rejects it so. So they expect 4 hours of their day off to just maintain a wound? That alone is a huge liability, then account for the medical costs, mental health, weakness in comparison to men. A FtM will be weak since it's a woman and a MtF will be hopped up on oestrogen and weak.

Also why are they always so obvious? They rarely pass as women and all look like a bad drag act. When I was an explorer scout in Switzerland in 2009 I was part of a county wide group. There was some tranny from about 50 miles north of where I'm from. It literally looked like a dude in a dress from a thrift store. That and it would announce each morning "nobody come into my tent, I'm shaving my legs". Why was that around kids 14-18?

>>34664238
12-15* not 14-18. My mistake.

>>34664238
>Also why are they always so obvious?
To be fair that depends on a lot of things
>What age they transitioned at
>Physical appearance and exercise routine when transitioning
>How their body responds to HRT (if they do it)
>Bone structure
>Etc
I've met a small few that passed REALLY well and weren't obvious but most I've met are literally Chris-chan

>>34664207
OK, so you have the law that bathroom has to match birth certificate sex.

Then a trans man, born """female""", is forced into the female restroom. He doesn't want to make little girls uncomfortable by creeping and now you've given him no choice. How is that better?

>>34664238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEOeQZmnAo

>>34662734
/thread

>>34662723
>Are transgender soldiers really a burden?

Yes. To be honest its all fine when playing but as a combat vet I would probably frag one if they were about in hard combat on my team as no one needs that bullshit when lives are on the line. Trump did the right thing

>>34664281
Trans suicide rates are higher than veterans, and you still think the challenges they have to deal with is "bullshit"?

>>34664293
Mental illness is supposed to be a disqualifier.

>>34664293
The "Challenges" they face are almost completely fabricated in their own unstable mind. They deserve everything they do to themselves and are actually doing rest of humanity a favor when they remove themselves from the gene pool.

>>34664160
>>34664189
>>34664238
Jesus, do a little Googling if you're going to start making definitive statements about something. It depends on the surgeon and individual patient, but dilation is usually about 20 minutes once a day by six months after the surgery, and for some patients they don't even have to do it daily after a year. Of course it's not natural to have a body part surgically inverted, how would it possibly be? It's not a daily three hour procedure though.

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>>34664293
Problems you make for yourself are not problems. They're poor decisions.
The suicide rate is high because people transition and realize it doesn't solve any of their fantasy problems.

>>34664293
>Trans suicide rates are higher than veterans

I don't give a fuck. The fact you think that your nations soldiers mental scars earned defending you are a comparable to your fucking horomone necking larping as a woman pedo bullshit means you are beneath contempt.

The only solution is to ban the hormones these freaks take or make them unaffordable/unobtainable.

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>>34662723
At the end of the day, war fighting is about one thing: Killing people. It's not about being sensitive to a transgender, it's about completing the mission and bringing home our guys alive. People with other mental illnesses are denied service, trans people are no different.

>>34664305
Most I've met had to get it into at least an hour twice per day.

I prefer to listen to the story of the 9 who basically cucked themselves with transitioning rather than the 1 turbo-lucky loser who didn't have to rededicate their lives to maintaining their wound or regretting that decision and spending their life wondering whether to end their added misery.

>>34664293
Literally >>34664299 >>34664302 and >>34664311

>>34662741
Not anymore, third-worlder friend....
https://www.funker530.com/tranny-ban-trump-ban-transgender-people-military/

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>>34664338
webm version: http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1501080887468.webm

>>34664339
Eh, post SRS suicide rates are bad, but they off themselves before SRS a lot too. Being that fundamentally damaged isn't easy no matter what side of transition they're on. You come across like someone who thinks transitioning is the cause of trans suicides.

>>34664376
>but they off themselves

good.

>>34664338
>People with other mental illnesses are denied service, trans people are no different.


Inducing mental illness by joining a peer group supporting it and taking drugs to exacerbate it are not comparable with other mental illnesses that occur in otherwise healthy individuals.

Mentally ill crossdressers deserve no charity or compassion. Their suicides are literally self inflicted and nature proving that it does not tolerate mistakes. Choose stupid and die stupid. No fucks are given.

>>34664376
I just recognize that there's a massive spike post op and it's caused almost entirely by regret where as before it would be cause by a myriad of problems that could be sorted with proper support from friends, family, and some therapy.

I'd rather people try to sort their shit first before sprinting head on into permanent body mutilation perpetuated by a fantasy from a mentally imbalanced mind.

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>>34664376
No anon that was me who said that people kill themselves after operations because they didn't get what they thought they were getting.

I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything; but delusional children are the ones who throw tantrums after they get their present and aren't satisfied with it.

> Being that fundamentally damaged isn't easy no matter what side of transition they're on.
At least we can agree on that. I've only dated a few trans people but every single one I've met is the definition of insane. I'm sure it's not 100% but in my experience it's pretty damn close.
That being said; I'm totally fine with people mutilating their bodies in some desperate attempt to gain acceptance from THEMSELVES.

People are fucking crazy, let them cut shit off if they want. It will just end up being .00x% of a statistic. I know that sounds cold and these are real people with real lives and families, but honestly; someone can get so far up their own ass they think their life is all that matters. That is not how the world works. How selfish.

>>34662741
t. russiboo who backs a third world military crapshoot

>Brother wasn't let in because of nearsightedness and mild asthma.

>These mentally ill people were ever let in.


It wouldn't be fair to the rest of our armed forces to let trannies in. No way I would trust anyone who needs hormones everyday to stay "normal".

>>34664338
What the hell is dilation?

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>>34664392
Ooh, edgy

>>34664433
Eh, if they were dumb enough to think that bottom surgery is what's standing between them and happiness, you're not about to talk them out of anything. People do that with a lot of things though. If they could just get that promotion, or get a girlfriend, or a degree, then everything would be fine. They even do it with other mental illnesses. An important aspect of therapy for someone who's got gender dysphoria is making sure they aren't trying to use transitioning to "fix" themselves though, expecially if the aspects about themself that they're trying to fix are completely unrelated to their gender, like their ability to interact well socially, or their lack of self confidence etc.

If you get to the point of being post op and only then realize that it's not the one thing they need to fix everything wrong with themself, they've really been failed by their doctors and whatever loved ones they may have.

>>34662723
>Why doesn't anybody have the right to die for their own country?
KYS right now. You'll be doing your country a service.

>>34664479
>the whole second response of this post
So they're mentally ill.

>>34664479
>If you get to the point of being post op and only then realize that it's not the one thing they need to fix everything wrong with themself, they've really been failed by their doctors and whatever loved ones they may have.
But it's a large portion of the country that is enabling the self-destructive behavior, not just people they personally know.

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Nice. I don't have a twatter or fagbook; They must be on fire right now.

>>34662723
>Why doesn't anybody have the right to die for their own country?

In case you've been in a coma for the last hundred years, they now claim serving in the armed forces is a privilege.

Both a privilege and a sacrifice, apparently.

>>34662727
Pot calling the kettle nigger much?

>>34664512
biggest triggering since election night, lefties are cashing in big on the virtue signaling.

>>34662723
Yes.
You're sick in the head and a burden.

>>34663838
go back to plebit

Transgender is real and normal fucking bigots
>>>/pol/

>>34664478
post-op trannies have to shove a dildo in their open wound for a few hours each day or it will heal shut. This leads to all sorts of infections. Over time there is a build up of mucus and hair that they have to pull out. They call this their period.

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>>34664512
yep

>>34664605
HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US! what's it with these liberal types and autisticly chanting the same exact thing

>>34663990
>Makes a lot of them look like hypocrites who only have small government individual liberty values when it's convenient.
Because that's what they are.

>>34662741

Those are all yuropean service"women" :^) nice try though Hans

>>34664620
Having actual arguments aren't their forte

>>34664492
Not who you're replying to, but in my experience yes. People who are gay generally have other issues, and people think they're one gender trapped in the wrong gender's body are generally not well adjusted in every other respect of their lives.

I don't have a psychology or psychiatry degree, but it was only 2013-14 that "Gender Dysphoria" left the DSM (literally the book of all known mental illnesses) -IV.

This also coincidentally coincides with the fact that the field of psychology, especially social psychology, is overrun with leftists. The field has become an echo-chamber.

In a pew research poll in 2009, only 9% of 2,500 scientists actively working in the Psychology/Psychiatry field identified as "conservative".

>>34664338
It's really comforting to know that no matter what I'll never have as much regret as that.

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>>34662723

Question Did that transgender air force pog faggot who got called out on reddit and came over and started shit around about 6 months ago get court marsheled or thrown out yet? Was a real peice of shit, publicly proclaimed he was taking hormones ect

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>>34664652
I'm the anon you're responding too and Yes that is the statement I was making.

Most people make the assumption that science and polling are not bias, or cannot be bias. It's really insulting. And when you try to explain it to them it's like throwing a bible on the ground and taking a piss on it. Completely out of the realm of acceptable behavior.

But I'm a fag, or at least half fag. I like to be emotionally connected to people, and don't feel like I need the limit of choose one half of the population over the other.

Shit just makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. And I like it.

>>34664506
The proper answer to that isn't to practically spit on trannies every time you pass them on the street though.

I'm a fucking straight white male, and I have a few mental issues that were caused by social ostracism and being generally antisocial most of my life. I'm not surprised a lot of trannies do when they're subjected to treatment that is likely worse than what I dealt with by simply being a nerd.

>>34664652
>People who are gay generally have other issues
[citation needed]
Most of the gay folks I've known have been quite well adjusted. It's the trannies who make up most of the faggots (though not all trannies are faggots are).

>>34662741
lol sure russian faggot how about you spend money on your barracks construction LUL collapsing barracks kill russians http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33503364

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HAHAHA!!!
Get rekt Ivy, you delusional insubordinate piece of shit!!

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>>34664574
I'm sorry I asked.

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>>34664685
Related

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>>34662762
>Let's use them as shock troops.
>People will be scared of them!
>I have no fucking clue how the modern military, or combat in general works. On the off chance someone took the time to explain to me that the current year isn't 1917 I would stare at them with a blank expression because -despite browsing /k/- any concept of tactics more complicated than what's depticted in the movie "Commando" confuses me.

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>>34662723
just saying manning was a tranny and he leaked classified documents because he is mentally unstable.

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>>34664719
This a thousand times. People hate gays because of how 'loud and proud' they are; but guess what, most gay people hate the shit out of other gay people for being so flirtatious or obnoxious... it's really insulting when you're having a conversation about your significant other and your fag friend comes in asking obviously invasive questions.

As an gay, those dudes just make me uncomfortable as fuck.

You know what they say, the smallest voice is always the loudest. Feels bad knowing that these are the idiots people think about when they think about lgbt. Tumblr was a mistake.

>>34662911
Never because it would break the culture of hero worship that we've built around the military since Vietnam

transgender is mental illness. if anyone wants to disagree please tell me how being born with a set physical make up based on chromosomes and saying no its actually wrong makes sense. they are crazy, thats why they kill themselves, because they think the sex change will make them happy and it wont. FYI i'm in the military and nobody wants them. they cost a shit ton of money and are a liability not an asset.

>>34663020


FUCK YEAH


THIS

ALL DAY LONG


ALL FUCKIN DAY


IM GONNA GO KILL SOMETHIN!


FUCK YEAH

>>34663838
Are you referring to Obama and Michael?

>>34664719
http://josephsciambra.com/surviving-gaybarely/
A lot of those people are just fronting. The gay community is a horror show.

>>34664719
And I'd argue that your personal experience isn't a citation either. I know and am friends with 2 gay men. One you wouldn't know it, if it didn't come up in conversation, the other has made it his defining characteristic of his being. Both married women, at first, and ended up divorcing them and "coming out". I know several lesbians and they are not at all "friendly" and make every issue about their unapproachability, immaturity, and hostility into a personal attack on their sexual preference.

The vast amounts of training and coaching we need to deal with homosexuals in my workplace and job duties would indicate that no, homosexuals as a rule are not very well adjusted.

>>34664223
>pointing out that men and women arnt equal and men need to protect women

Its like you have no idea what youre talking about lol

>>34662723
I seriously don't even know what you kids call transgender these days. Between your feminine penis's it's hard to keep track.

These chicks with dicks? Doods with boobs?

>>34664271
Until a person can change their chomosomes tough shit.

>>34664810
Edit for clarification: I'm a murse.

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>>34662723
They're mentally ill and a coin flip from killing themselves.
Plus we were paying for their body mutilation surgeries.

Fuck off. Military ain't a social experiment.

>>34664492
Yes they are mentally ill. Therefore what though? That fact isn't in dispute.

>>34664506
Regardless of what's going on in popular culture, it's still a failing on the part of the people around them. Frankly, if a person wants to cut their limbs off, I don't care. It's their body. Transsexuals have to go to someone for SRS though, they're not getting it done at the 7/11, and any reputable surgeon, even those operating in foreign countries, will require a recommendation letter from a psych, records from an endocrinologist etc. MTV saying "it's all good, go get SRS, SLAY!" isn't how it happens.

>>34664652
Fake news.

They renamed GID (Gender Identity Disorder) for Transgender Dysphoria when the DSM-5 came out. They didn't delist the illness, they just redefined it to reflect a greater body of research on the subject. Transgender Dysphoria is still in the DSM.

>>34664810
>homosexuals as a rule are not very well adjusted.

truth

>>34664818
the red line seems to be when they start taking hormones, that's when you know they've got issues in the head, everything else is just extras that give you an idea of how fucked they are.

>>34664812
If you don't see the "man bad, woman weak" argument as being in line with 3rd wave feminist thought, you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about.

>>34664853
>Yes they are mentally ill. Therefore what though? That fact isn't in dispute.
..... we are not disagreeing.

>>34663990
>wh only have small government individual liberty values when it's convenient
Congratu-fucking-lations, Anon, you've walked into the real world, and realized that the two-party system is more like a one-party dictatorship masquerading as a democratic multi-party republic, where the only real option is "right wing fee-fees based oppression" or "left wing fee-fees based oppression". Politicians do not care about your individual rights, not democrats, not republicans, not libertarians, not any single fucking one of them. They are all universally scum who are out to suck the life, money, and freedom out of the citizen's lives to further the comfort of their golden years.

Fucking mental illness tears...the thread

>>34664887
Well then why bother reply? Who said they weren't mentally ill? I hear people mention that trans people are mentally ill a lot, but I honestly don't get why people act like that's some big statement against them being allowed to exist.

>>34664919
muh degeneracy, muh pure gene pool, muh aryan purity
t. not a neckbeard living in his mother's basement

>ITT /k/ thinks that every trans person is MTF and has had a surgery.

>>34664652
>>34664700
>hurr durr, libruls are destroying science!
Considering the GOP not only has cut funding to scientific research, but also actively listens to scientists who are in the pay of oil companies and say climate change isn't real, as well as other questionable 'experts', and then there's the Texans that changes "slave trade" to "atlantic triangular trade" in a bunch of school text books that could potentially be shipped all over the country (History is a soft-science, but as one of my favorite subjects of literature, that one pisses me the fuck off)... so it's not surprising that science is being dominated by liberals these days.

I mean for fuck's sake, you've got people who think artificial insemination is 'playing god'.

>>34663775
>>34662835
>>34662825
>Type 1 diabetic
DISQUALIFIED AND RIGHTFULLY SO... They'd be a supply burden.
>HISTORY OF DEPRESSION
DISQUALIFIED
>DIAGNOSED WITH ANY FORM OF ADD
DISQUALIFIED
>BEING A FAGGOT WHO CAN ONLY BE A LIABILITY, WITH SUCH SEVERE MENTAL DISORDERS AS TO WARRANT EUTHANASIA
Promote that disgusting pile of filth to corporal.

All the Trannies on this board trying to stick up for mental illness
When the day comes you nasty mutilated fucks are gonna get gunned down and your weapons taken. One step closer today.
Fucking crazies.
Maga!

>>34664966
>t. nu-/pol/ masquerading as reddit falseflagging as a nu-/pol/
Nobody talks this retarded and edgy except someone deliberately trying to deceive you into thinking an entire demographic of people is retarded, or 12 year olds.

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>>34664305
Fuck that, I can't imagine having to hear some emotionally unstable (more unstable than your average Marine that is) faggot do that to himself in the back of a track in a combat zone.

Seriously, why should anyone care about trannies getting the boot? They don't even go for infantry or combat jobs, they're always pogs and desk jockeys who never deploy because of their tranny bullshit

>>34662933
I don't know if there are gays in north korea, but there certainly aren't gays in chechnya.

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>>34664919
I'm the anon you were responding to... It was more of a fortifying or bolstering statement. Rhetorical in a sense. The real question is when you read it; what made you think it wasn't saying the same thing... It literally in plain text is an agreement.

Stop looking for fights.

If you do not change direction, you will surely end up where you're headed.

>>34664963
Don't bother arguing with the brain dead libreals on here. Just consume their salt and sit back, we got 7 more years of winning and this is just the ice berg.

Just take heart in knowing they'll kill themselves by that time with their shit rifles they post on here 24/7.
Problem solved!

>>34664966
>false flagging this poorly

>>34665002
>7 more years of winning
What exactly has been won so far? 18 miles of wall and trannies might be getting kicked out of the military?
That sure is a lot of winning.

More people pike me than you in the real world buddy. And your mental illness is getting worse. That shiny rifle looks ready to help your misery.
TRUMP KEEPS WINNING!

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>>34664958
apples to oranges anon.

You cherry picked some extreme examples.
The general conservative wouldn't argue artificial insemination is "playing God" like you claim.
However, mainstream media and leftist sites like Reddit and Tumblr are going apeshit with this transgender service bullshit.
WHEN IT'S KNOWN THAT SEVER HEMORRHOIDS CAN GET YOU DQ'D FROM SERVICE.

And I'd argue the "Slave Trade = Triangular Trade" thing is a leftist-dominated-field education re-branding so Democrats != Party of Slavery. Especially if it's bullshit in a district around Austin or Houston, etc.

>>34662723
I hate /pol/, but this is just a clear cut action.
Gender dysphoria is in fact a mental illness, and people who have it have an absurdly high rate of depression and suicide.

Why should a mentally stable individual who experienced a short period of depression years ago be barred while an individual who wants to cut their penis off (among other things) be a-okay?

>>34665003
>>34665024
Same faggot tranny

Guess what? Even in your little hug box world the winning will touch you. Will not be able to avoid Trumps hand ad wrath. Today was just a taste! There's a storm coming to wreck your shit life. Faggot.

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>>34664958
t. cherry picker

> but also actively listens to scientists who are in the pay of oil companies and say climate change isn't real, as well as other questionable 'experts', and then there's the Texans that changes "slave trade" to "atlantic triangular trade" in a bunch of school text books that could potentially be shipped all over the country
Yet we have germans today not even knowing about the nazi party; what devastation they did and an actual sentenceable law against talking about it.

It's all just posturing.


>I mean for fuck's sake, you've got people who think artificial insemination is 'playing god'.
Uhhhh anon I don't know if you knew this, but that is a religious thing. Just like the idea of throwing us homosexuals from the tops of towers to watch us splat is a belief in another very real land.

I'm sorry to say you are so disconnected from reality that you can't even identify it let alone feel it. Enjoy living your live in security and seclusion; leagues from anyone who could actually give you any real life in-put.

Finally, some good news for once.

More please. Faster.

>>34664810
>I'm a nurse
>the vast majority of gay people I deal with have problems
No shit? I bet you see a lot of people with all kinds of problems as a nurse. Tell me, how many 'straight' guys have you had come in with something shoved up there ass?

>>34664776
>You know what they say, the smallest voice is always the loudest.
It's why I'm glad I have conservative friends, we help remind each other that the 'other side' doesn't consist entirely of frothing-at-the-mouth idiots, and that those people are simply the most vocal of the lot.

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>>34665052

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>>34664810
>homosexuals as a rule are not very well adjusted
You don't say.

>>34665001
When I see it brought up, it's usually stated as if it's a reason for trans people not to be allowed to use a bathroom, or transition, in some cases that they shouldn't even be allowed to exist. It's like people think having a mental illness makes them into a non-person.

>>34665068
That's all you got? Very cute.

Mentality of a child, we will definitley enjoy cleansing our nation of your kind. Just you wait bud!

>>34665088
They don deserve to be around normal people in public.
They need to be institutionalized. Period.

Letting them in the .mil is a disaster and just asking for an active shooter situation

>>34665093
>that's all you got
I also have guns, so if you want to take them, come and try it, you fucking puss. Been waiting for that "day of the rope" for a year now and I ain't seen jack shit. You gonna pull something or are you all bark and no bite, faggot?

>>34664605
I'd be inclined to buy this if they paid for 100% of their own drugs and surgery.

>>34665058
Don't you have some shota artist to be fantasying about?... lmao I cant believe you havent made a new trip lmao

>>34665066
>It's why I'm glad I have conservative friends, we help remind each other that the 'other side' doesn't consist entirely of frothing-at-the-mouth idiots, and that those people are simply the most vocal of the lot.
It's all good anon, no one is here to sway you. But as a gayfag myself I have to tell you; it's just a battle you cant win. Do not engage. If you see a front forming simply move away. It's not worth the IRL shitposting that will end up in some shitty colleges news letter.

mentality of a normal person
>We disagree!
>Well I will be damned if I dont have an actual conversation with you
>and discuss this point until we both at least understand the other

Meanwhile in liberal land
>we disagree!
>you're a fucking racist mysogonyst and if you disagree with me probably are a white supremacist

Where is that comic of the girl with the bat hitting some aryan guy in the knee? I remember the claim that 'if i win, ill kill everyone you know' where the fuck did that come from.
Delusion feeds illusion. After trump was elected people reported thousands of assaults based on being gay/minority/different and lo-and-behold NONE of them were true. What an upset.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/post-trump-hate-crime-review?utm_term=.btkKaeW6X#.noxLYOdbk
Sorry for buzzfeed link but meh

>>34665066
we usually deal more with the "I'm gay and can't deal so I took 4 bottles of pills, drank bleach, CLR, etc."

>>34665114
Did I strike a nerve in this transvestite?

WE JUST KEEP FUCKING WINNING!
HELL YES!

>>34664572
>muh feminism claims men and women are exactly the same in every way
>Trannies claim there's such a thing as being female brained and male brained

Pick one and only one you disgusting faggot

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>>34665114
Anon please realize it's just a child behind a computer screen and you're taking the bait hard.

>>34665127
How old were you when you got fucked up the ass? Be honest now.

>>34662848
Of course it is. More people than ever before are ENCOURAGING people's mental illness instead of encouraging them to seek proper help.

>nixon blacked Vietnam
>trannies somehow not good enough to sit and wait.

i don't see a problem, someone might accidentally mad science immortality after you get passed the genital mutilation.

What does this have to do with weapons or militaria?

Anyone got some screens of people flipping out on social media? I left FB 2 years ago, but I'd love to see some handpicked outrage and virtue signalling.

>>34662723
Mental illness disqualifies you from being a soldier.
I like how Trump took his time to post it in twitter.
The only reason I ever go to twitter is to see liberal tears. Feels fucking great.

>>34662970

It does matter, though. Asthma is an I'd tent DQ for military service, even if you can get through basic without an inhaler.

>>34665168
>virtue signalling
I question what this word even means anymore.

>>34665110
>just asking for an active shooter situation

The overwhelming majority of serial killers and active shooters are white males. Should we institutionalize them to avoid active shooter situations? Why don't we just ban the private ownership of firearms while we're at it?

>>34665139
I'm a grown ass man that's been in the military and no one at all five bases I've been to wants your mentally ill ass in the military.

If we had a single faggot or tranny, you can gaurantee he'd get so hazed that he would've taken his own life. It isn't the place for them. I wouldn't fight with them and I don't expect them to fight next to me. I want to shoot them in the fucking face desu. If one would've deployed with me you can gaurantee there'd have been an accident.

>>34665181
it's usually when a leftist puts a whole bunch of hashtags in the social media statuses to let everyone know how hip and sympathetic and leftist they are.

>>34665188
>tranny
>deployed

pick one

>>34665181
It's the exclusive means by which most people in their early to mid-20s interact with each other nowadays (I say this as 26). Basically just signaling your correct opinions on a subject instead of actually having any meaningful discourse about something. You know it's virtue signaling rather than real conversation depending on how badly they react to someone breaking the circlejerk.

>>34665197
So only leftists can do it, then?
Cool.

>>34664958
>hurr durr, libruls are destroying science!

Daily reminder that your precious civil rights movement opposed the moon landing and the space program in the 1960s. See? I can cherry-pick stuff too!

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/09/moondoggle-the-forgotten-opposition-to-the-apollo-program/262254/

>"Many black papers questioned the use of American funds for space research at a time when many African Americans were struggling at the margins of the working class. An editorial in the Los Angeles Sentinel, for example, argued against Apollo in no uncertain terms"

>"This is, of course, a complicated story. When 200 black protesters marched on Cape Canaveral to protest the launch of Apollo 14, one Southern Christian Leadership Conference leader claimed, "America is sending lazy white boys to the moon because all they're doing is looking for moon rocks. If there was work to be done, they'd send a nigger."

The whole claim that Liberals/Conservatives are "anti-science" is complete nonsense unless you consider that one side would rather give funding to """"urban youth""""" and the other side would rather give money to another needless carrier to fight another war for no reason. The conservatives who deny evolution or genetics because it interferes with their religious views are no different than the liberals who deny evolution or genetics because it would "normalize eugenics" or racism or something.

>>34665213
I mean right wing opinions are universally deemed evil so to the modern millennial it would be impossible to virtue signal as a conservative. I say this as a 27 year old who is acutely aware of how most people my age interact with one another.

>>34662835
No shit that's what screwed me

>>34665204
My point exactly.
Tranvestites are not even deployable huh? What a huge fucking shit stain. They are a BURDEN, and their medical costs are double the normal soldiers. They aren't soldiers. They are ticking time bombs

>>34665213
Not necessarily. But just like gun control and other things is attracts a certain "type" and IQ level...

>>34665227
If you go back in as an officer with a much needed skill they may write you a waiver for your medical condition.

>t. Navy dentist who had an old back injury

>>34664963
Can you really got disqualified for a history of ADD? I was going to enlist soon. I got therapy for that shit and I'm good.

>>34664631
second from left is from nzaf buddy

nice try, brick.

>>34665217
>something from the 60's correctly depicts a Politcal stance 60 FUCKING YEARS LATER

How many transvestites existed in the 60's and what was the democrazies stance on them back then?


You dumb fucking retard.

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>>34665229
i agree with you. trump made a good choice.

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>>34665168
Sure, I guess

Is anyone else getting corrupt image errors when they select an image to upload? Posting the actual image works fine, but I still keep getting errors.

>>34665236
You might have some trouble getting in straight out of high school, yeah. You can lie about your medical records depending on how bad you want it but if they catch you they'll be rip shit and you may get court martialed/discharged

>>34665236
Yes. I was DQ'd because I took asthma medication as an infant and had not been on any asthma treatment since 9 years of age. I was DQ'd at 24 when I tried to join.

How did this go from "Trannies aren't allowed in the military" to "We need to kill all trannies because MAGA"?

>>34665265
/pol/

>>34664652
Being gay isn't a mental illness. You don't need any medication or treatment to live a perfectly normal life as a productive member of society. Unless you think liking the same gender automatically makes you unable to live a "normal" life.

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>>34665253
Blanket feel good statements from females.

Giving woman a right to vote in our democracy was the first domino to fall.

>>34665046
>>34665057
>And I'd argue the "Slave Trade = Triangular Trade" thing is a leftist-dominated-field education re-branding so Democrats != Party of Slavery. Especially if it's bullshit in a district around Austin or Houston, etc.
Well this was a couple years ago, and it totally wasn't an attempt by Democrats to hide their party's support of slavery (also, Conservatives love to bring that up along with the LBJ quote, while also pretending that the 50's and 60's didn't see most of the Jim Crowe supporting 'Dixiecrats', jump ship for the GOP).

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2010/0519/Texas-textbook-war-Slavery-or-Atlantic-triangular-trade
>The role of Thomas Jefferson – who argued for the separation of church and state – is minimized in several places, and the standards would emphasize the degree to which the Founding Fathers were driven by Christian principles.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/opinion/26wed4.html
>The original curriculum standards were drawn up by teams of teachers and scholars who spent nearly a year on the huge undertaking. The board eagerly exercised its power to amend those requirements.
>inb4 Christian Science Monitor is a librul source...

>>34665057
>Yet we have germans today not even knowing about the nazi party
And how does that even compare to using newspeak to manipulate children into downplaying the slave trade?

>implying I'm the one disconnected from reality, when conservatives can't even be told scientific facts they don't like without screaming liberal bias

>>34665187
All of the white men shooting places up have mental illnesses that go untreated, what's your logic?

Being Transgender is not comparable to being white. Being Transgender is only comparable to having Borderline Personality Disorder or some shit, which, guess what? If it's extreme enough that you're thinking about cutting off your fucking dick and balls, should land you in mental hospital instead of active military service.

>Durr, but muh whites!
And even if your argument did make logical sense, just because another group of people has a problem doesn't mean you DON'T have a problem.

If Johnson down the street murders someone and gets way with it, you don't fucking say that you should be able to murder someone too.

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>>34665279
>let me use the bathroom I want
If I ever see a fucking tranny walk into a bathroom that my daughter is using I can't guarantee I won't flip my shit.

>>34665188
What part of that post made you think it was disagreeing.
>tell someone theyre taking the bait
>they blow up even more
You might be retarded.

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>>34665276
Not inherently no, but it does seem to coincide with a whole host of other bad things. Faggots still can't donate blood because asking the simple question "Are you a man who has ever had sex with another man?" and denying blood donations from people who answer yes gives you a 17x reduction in HIV contamination risk.

>>34665248
>You dumb fucking retard.

If you could read what I was saying, you could see that I was trying to show how simply cherry picking to say that one of the major sides is "anti-science" is BS. I know it was one incident a while ago, but it's no different then the people who cherry pick behavior of people on the right to make a pro or anti-science argument.

>>34664631
only one of those is yuro you absolute moron
left is swedish, others are nz, au and ca respectively

the swe is p qt desu

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>>34665288
If someone commits a crime, absolutely they should be punished, but that doesn't mean we should start taking aspects of a person and using it to lock them up before something happens. Plenty of people are psychopaths and sociopaths but never kill anyone, we don't lock them up in institutions, and there's no reason to do that to the average tranny either. Just because someone makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean you get to have the government lock them away for being bad for your fee fees.

>>34665309
"normal" except they require hormones and/or surgery to feel like normal human beings and even then half of them still kill themselves

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>>34665309
Last one. It's really mostly just people repeating the same shit other people are saying.

>>34665276
The health stats from the CDC disagree. To quote one isolated example, 75% of all new cases of syphilis occur within your 1.8% of the population, and when you fuck around as you invariably do it jumps into the general population. The 'gay community' is a walking biohazard.

>>34665217
>hurr durr, they opposed the moon landing!
>this is the same as sticking your head in the sand about climate change!
Except it's not really the same... because in the case of climate change, noone is saying "we should spend the money for it on something else", especially considering there's more 'green' energy jobs currently than there are fucking coal miners, despite the supposed importance of the latter's profession.

Considering all the things that Conservatives say are a waste of money, that would actually hurt real people if they were to be shut down, some black people protesting the moon launches hardly compares.

Also...
>implying evolutionary science or genetics actually back up your bullshit racist beliefs, and liberals are just hiding the truth

>>34665347
Where are the proofs? You sure love to quote "Duuh, duh CEEDEECEE" and other "sources", without ever actually giving sources. And you inevitably reply "duuuh, I DUNT GOTSA SPOONFEED YOU SHITFUCKING FAGBOY I HOPE I CAN SHOTGUN YOUR FACE", because you're a retarded statist cuck who pulls "facts" out of his ass.

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>>34662723
> Anon trolls all the idiots to get gross comments to put in their newest medium article.

>>34662723
Because they'll get other people killed doing it.

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>>34665077
Oh look, it's Phil, here to provide us with TOTALLY ACCURATE AND UNBIASED information!

>>34665309
thanks anon. quality replies

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>>34665366
https://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/default.htm

it's literally on the syphilis main page you moron, please neck youself

>>34665285
I don't know what to tell you man. The left in modern western politics is a mess. I don't even know where to begin.

But while it’s true that a Democratic president, Lyndon Johnson, shepherded the 1964 Civil Rights Act to passage. But eighty percent of Republicans in the House voted aye, as against 61 percent of Democrats. In the Senate, 82 percent of Republicans favored the law, but only 69 percent of Democrats. Among the Democrats voting nay were Albert Gore Sr., Robert Byrd, and J. William Fulbright.
Fulbright, on whom Bill Clinton bestowed the Medal of Freedom. Fulbright was one of the 19 senators who signed the “Southern manifesto” defending segregation.

The myth of the old segregationist senators leaving the Democratic party to become Republicans after 1964, is just that, a myth. No, just one senator did: Strom Thurmond. The rest remained in the Democratic party — including former *Klansman* Robert Byrd, who became president pro tempore of the Senate.

Former racists of both parties renounced their old views (Lyndon Johnson himself voted against anti-lynching laws and poll-tax repeals), and neither party has a perfect record on racial matters by any stretch. But it is a libel to suggest that the Republican party, the anti-slavery party, the party of Lincoln, and the party that traditionally supported civil rights, anti-lynching laws, and integration, became the racist party after 1964.

>>34665093
>says someone else has the mentality of the child
>talks about how much he'll enjoy 'cleaning his kind'
Yeah because wanting to beat up someone who hasn't done you any harm isn't a childish thing to do at all.

>>34665349
Did either of you guys even read the post? I was trying to make a point about how cherry picking to say that one side was "anti-science" was a bad thing.

The post clearly isn't meant to cast aspersions on leftists as a whole when it comes to scientific research, it's just to demonstrate how pointing out one thing some of them opposed at one point to say they oppose scientific development is always a bad thing. My bringing up how certain leftists opposed a major scientific development and my later argument that either side was "anti-science" because of one incident was supposed to demonstrate this.

>>34665309
Dat salt. Mmmhhh, savory.

>>34665366
I fucking hate these faggots who don't know how to use government websites like he FBI, BLS, and CDC to look up publicly available statistics. Are you a 12 year old who failed computer class when they were teaching you how to search for things online? This is assuming that you wouldn't just ignore or rationalize away a source that's put right in front of your face.

Here's a source for you: I'm a certified medical technologist and there's a good reason why fags aren't allowed to donate blood. The FDA even told Obama to go fuck himself when he tried to get this reversed. It's because men who have sex with men have a 17x higher rate of HIV infection (as of 2011 when I was in school).

You're pretty mad, sure you aren't mentally ill?

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>>34662723
fuck right off, the Canadian Forces disqualify people for fucking allergies let alone mental illness!

What's gonna happen when you're stuck in a strong point for weeks and you can't get your hormones you freakshows

>>34665400
You're harming the moral fabric of my society by being allowed to exist.
Don't worry, it'll be over for you soon.

>>34665400
You online are no threat to me but the moment one of you tries to speak to my child the alarm bells start ringing and I start contemplating how many witnesses are present and how likely it is I could knock your fucking teeth out without having to do prison time.

Keep you perverted bullshit off of the public streets and away from my kids.

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>>34665398
forgot my photo

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>>34663826

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>Why doesn't anybody have the right to die for their own country?
Poorly worded which is no surprise. I don't think anyone has a problem with transgenders dying for their country. The problem is in how they serve. I don't want someone that can't deal with the simple reality of their birth sex armed and ignoring orders on their own whims.
I don't want the guy who thinks he's Napoleon Bonaparte to lead my army either.

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>>34665468
I hope you don't live in California. We have mandatory faggot sex ed starting in the 7th grade now. Or Washington. Pic related.

But of course if you object to any of this you're just a Neanderthal Puritan who objects to other people minding their own business and being happy and, and... stuff.

>>34665127
>None of them were true.
Let's be honest, some of Trump's supporters really are assholes like Phil, out in the real world. "More than none" of them were true, by simple statistical probability alone, but "less than all" by a wide margin, yes. And I'm the librul and I don't talk like that at all to my friends. Though frankly, I also have a rule that I avoid political talk with people who aren't my friends, applying the simple maxim that, "It's easier to disagree with your friends, than become friends with someone you disagree with."

>Where is that comic of the girl with the bat hitting some aryan guy in the knee?
It doesn't help that a lot of those same people represented by the caricature were and still are, in the wake of Trump's election, crowing about how they now have the opportunity to take back the country from those damn <insert_trigger_word_here>! When your idea of victory is to start talking about all the ways you're going to try and infringe on people's rights, it's going to make anyone nervous (kinda like how we get every time liberal politicians talk about guns).

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>>34665479
but Trump isn't a manlet.

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>>34665487
You've had all the same rights as everybody else since the last anti-sodomy statutes were abolished. What you want is power and license and special privileges. Protip: The other 96.3% of the population is beginning to get sick and fucking tired of it.

>you will never have a shemale battle buddy to keep you warm in cold Afghanistan mountain and please everyone in the FOB

>>34664883
>starting to move the goalposts already

More like "man strong, both good and bad. women weak, both good and bad and depend on men for safety"

Aka human nature, exactly what 3rd wavs feminists rally against. Anything else?

>>34665340
Transgendered people don't make me uncomfortable, I just recognize the fact that they're too mentally and emotionally unstable for military service, that this is a factor of their mental illness, and that blatant self-mutilation should be a reason to put someone in a mental hospital. I find it ridiculous that you're over here accusing me of getting my "fee fees" hurt when you're the one getting so defensive and whining as if this is a subjective matter. It's not. They're either healthy, or they're fucked up.

Also, way to butcher the hell out of and misunderstand that analogy I used specifically to help you parse the mistake you were making.

This might help you comprehend: the top half of the post and the lower part of the post were about two separate matters. Does that make sense to you?

>>34665516
People in the military would rather give that degenerate a bullet to the dome desu.
Use their skin as a coat

>>34665130
Stick to nursing and leave psychology to the people who have training in that shit then. Correlation is not an indication of Causation without corroborating evidence, and some half-dead idiot in an ER saying "I can't deal with being gay" is hardly the most solid foundations for a diagnosis.

I have Anxiety, but it doesn't make me blubber or cry when I get nervous, like most people expect when they hear "anxiety". It makes me irritable and ANGRY. Which, is kinda worse in a way, and the last couple years of taking a daily pill for that shit has really helped.

>>34665545
>Transgendered people don't make me uncomfortable
You're at ease being in the same room with a guy who chopped his cock and balls off and cosplays as a woman so he can fuck other men using his urinary tract as a fake vagina.

There's something wrong with you, dude.

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>>34662723
>have body dysmorphia
>have a suicide rate around 40%
>US military rejects applicants with a history of mental illness
>potentially be put in a high stress, no win situation
wow maybe we shouldn't give these faggots guns.

>>34665559
100% this.

Nothing about a transvestite sits well with me if you've ever had to be in the vacunity of one, it's quite obvious that they are mentally unstable. Even the ones who think they're good at hiding it, it fucking seals out of them and makes everyone around them uncomfortable.the kind of person who would "snap" and start trying to murder everyone in the room type vibes. No shit.

>>34662836

>North Koreans on patrol
>Burst of machine gun fire cuts down two men.
>"YAAASSS SLAY QUEEN!" comes from the forest
>Koreans panick at the demon screech of drag queens
>Demoralized Norks retreat as more men drop, with cackling and "get it honey!" Heard between bursts of gunfire

>>34665487
That is blatantly retarded. You're ignoring all the video and news instances of trump supporters being assaulted, beaten and the instigation they received just by being politically aligned to foxus on the 1/100th of situations where someone; who was already being picked on, gets picked on.

Please wake up.

>When your idea of victory is to start talking about all the ways you're going to try and infringe on people's rights
How delusional. Serving in the military is not a right and you can be barred by simply saying a racist comment, let alone a hinting at a mental illness.

>It doesn't help that a lot of those same people represented by the caricature were and still are, in the wake of Trump's election, crowing about how they now have the opportunity to take back the country from those damn <insert_trigger_word_here>
Yeah it's almost like someone could not feel one way, but still shitpost just to make you mad
>these anons are picking on me!!
No shit retard, you're easy to pick on. If you don't like it, get off the internet and do something with your life.

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>banning trannies
Half the Air Force would be forced to leave

>>34662723
Because the federal government and the raxpayer shouldnt subsidize a mental illness that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars every year for the rest of their life.

If they wanna do that shit to themselves and pay for the hormone treatment for the rest of their lives, let em, but putting that burden on the taxpayer is bullshit.

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>>34665486
Fixed the curriculum. Left in SOME stuff, just because teaching kids to respect others regardless of the situation isn't a problem, and honestly, these topics should be broached with the family unit so I left that shit in there too.

Touches upon the stuff without being active, prolonged brainwashing.

>>34662727
Just so you know, the Muslims I've met who have this attitude are the only thing keeping me tolerating them. That and the First Amendment.

>>34665559
I honestly don't give a fuck what they do as long as it doesn't affect me. I think they should get the help they need of course, but the concept of some guy having that mental illness doesn't inherently piss me off. If I find out someone I know has autism, I don't get pissed with them.

What does irritate me is how I'm supposed to not only tolerate them, but welcome them into the fucking armed services as if there isn't a problem, or else I'm a "bigot". THAT makes me fucking uncomfortable, this culture war shit.

this thread is ripe with tranny apologists. Good to know your guns will be put to good use in time. Sure it will skew the stats about gun owners a little more, but it's a risk I'm willingly to take.
Remember trannies, freedom from your deformed and mutilated body is one trigger pull away! Aim high!

>>34662804
This.

As someone who tried to serve recently but was denied on these grounds it pisses me off to see all the whining about trans.

It isn't a right to serve.

>>34664238

Was that in Kandersteg, by any chance?

I might have been there as well.

>>34665609
Tough shit. Active prolonged brainwashing is what's on the menu.

>>34665545
That depends a lot on your idea of self mutilation and self harm I guess. Do you also advocate institutionalizing people who cut themselves? What about alcoholics? That's a form of self harm.

For a lot of transsexuals, transition helps with their gender dysphoria, which is why it's a treatment option used by so many of them. I wouldn't really call it self destructive for a person who's aware they're mentally ill to seek treatment.

>>34664795
You rekt that fagota you replied to, fampai.

>not /k/ related besides the word "military"

>>34665486
Phil, you are a Neanderthal and a statist, kill yourself

>>34665609
>honestly, these topics should be broached with the family unit so I left that shit in there too.

If these topics should be broached with the family unit, why are they even on the school curriculum? I think it's very clear that all of the "healthy relationships" section of the curriculum would be better learned through actual experience or through instruction by your family or people in reality rather than some schoolmarm who believes it is her duty to inculcate her charges with the values of some college course she took.

>Touches upon the stuff without being active, prolonged brainwashing.

I guess you're far more optimistic than me on this issue, When it comes to teaching kids about social issues, especially ones relating to gender or sexuality, I view the american education system with extreme circumspection.

>>34665633
They're only like 0.2% of the population or something so I wouldn't worry about it

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>>34665667
Enjoy your -20 years' life expectancy, you child molesting drug addled fuckstain.

I think the trannies should serve.

>tag them all with GPS
>drop them into ISIS territory
>ISIS captures them
>When ISIS throws them off a building, we'll have GPS coordinates for the Cruise Missiles

It's a win/win

>>34665665
If someone has body integrity disorder should they be allowed to have their arm amputated as treatment? Or should they pursue therapy-based mental health treatment?

>>34662723
They re a burden. They want free sex change operations have higher suicide rates and can lose their artificial vaginas if they don't keep a wedge in there for 4 hours a day.

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>>34662804

Yeah that's a reason why I am against trans serving. Depression goes hand in hand with being trans and apparently being a sad cunt once and awhile is more dangerous than having body dysphoria?

Can they deny you for still having been depressed in the past even if you got off anti-depressants and all that? I thought if you were off for a year you were g2g.

>won't even be let into the national guard or reserves

>>34665558
I'm sorry sir if I've upset you in some manner. I've been trying to be apolitical as possible, and though I support Trump on this policy I've been trying to treat the subject in a neutral manner.

That being said, personal experience can never be totally eliminated no matter how objective you try to be.

I did drop out of psych school to go to nursing school. (My brother is a psychologist.)

Specifically because the field and college were so full of leftists who were incapable of any sort of professional pride our decorum and couldn't be bothered to take a look in the mirror while they were being the PC thought-and-action police. I simply couldn't put up with 8+ years of it.

To put it another way: So while I've heard there are statistically some Democrats against gun control, for example, I haven't met any. And while I don't dispute their existence, I do note that their number is certainly not statistically enough to alter the Democratic platform.

>>34665721
>being so thin skinned you can't handle other people's personal views so you quit your profession

lol wimp

>>34665665
Nigger, if someone is cutting themselves or boozing themselves to death, fucking yes I think they should get help! What the hell is wrong with you? Do you think fucking up your life and body something that I should just consider par for the course, all is equal ?

Not to mention we're getting back to your faggot way of equating shit as if one extreme being tolerated means another extreme should be tolerated, even though in this case I don't even fucking agree that any of that shit is normal.

Getting surgery for that shit is """treatment""" in the same way that a fucking schizophrenic marrying one of his hallucinations is a treatment, and yeah, I'd consider that to be self-destructive behavior, and more importantly, I damn sure wouldn't go around advocating for that shit as normal and acceptable conduct.

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>>34665704
Don't be ableist! There are transabled people who choose to transition to crippled you bigot!

>>34665276
>Productive member of society
>Literally unwilling to produce future taxpayers for the mutual benefit of his entire generation and Country.

The left is so fucking out of touch with reality it hurts.

>>34664840
>Not 1997 Ford Escort
Focus didnt even exist before 20002

>>34665753
Additionally I think they would be a fine group to have in our armed services! There is literally no reason why they should not serve in a front line post, or even special forces!

>>34665735
I realized that if I didn't drink the Kool-Aid and laugh at jokes about SC Justice Clarence Thomas going back to the plantation, or mocking Greta Van Susteren by twisting their mouths in imitation of her appearance I was most certainly going to be passed over for promotions, programs, etc.

I'm making more as murse anyway.

>>34665771
Bigot

>>34665711
>and can lose their artificial vaginas if they don't keep a wedge in there for 4 hours a day.
You mean you have to maintain them on a daily basis?

>>34665584

kekd but highly improbable, just sounds like gay men who like to do drag, full on trannies aren't that funny.

>>34665753
>>34665774
Damn it, if they have the spirit of patriotism within their American souls, of course they should be able to serve their country! It doesn't matter if they'd be an active hindrance to our military's functioning and make us a joke, all that matters is what they want!

>>34665667
>statistics are racist! And mean! Statist!

Fuck off child.

>>34665800
Yes the body conciders it a wound and will attempt to seal it unless they put a tool inside called a "stint" or simply put a wedge.

>>34665737
>Nigger, if someone is cutting themselves or boozing themselves to death, fucking yes I think they should get help!

You said that transsexuals should be institutionalized, and your reason for that is that you think they're self destructive. Then I bring up other people whose actions could be considered self destructive, and they should just get help. Maybe you don't know what institutionalization means, but in case you don't, it means involuntarily keeping a person in a state owned "hospital," not just giving them some help. You're essentially advocating making a group of people wards of the state on grounds that you think their behavior is self-destructive, and then dialing it back to just getting help for a different group. All while trying to pretend you have nothing against transsexuals, and you just want them to be more normal.

You sound like the kind of person who'd say calling a trans person by a name other than the one they were given at birth or using their preferred pronouns is "giving in to their delusions" when you equate a person transitioning to someone marrying a hallucination. There are plenty trans people who are well aware of the fact that they're males living as women or vise versa. They don't all reject the concept of biological sex, they're just aware that sex isn't necessarily gender.

>>34665401
Well I apologize for overreacting then. But in the case of conservatives there still seems to be more than isolated instances, like there are with liberals, but a distinct trend toward denying science when it conflicts with their feelings.

>>34665421
>>34665468
I'm not even that guy, you idiots. I was just enjoying the opportunity to point out the hypocrisy.

Also...
>dat lust to do violence over harmless social interaction
Yeah, you totally aren't a nigger.

>>34665910
Dude get help

Your mind is tainted.

You belong in an institution desu.

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>>34665910
>they're just aware that sex isn't necessarily gender
But that isn't what Science Guy said before he evolved.

>>34665954
It was a conflation of terms. Also, science changes with new information, just like how we know the Earth isn't flat, and god didn't make it 6000 years ago.

>>34665910
Except I never said anything about institutionalizing, retard.

I ran a search for it, didn't crop up in any of my posts. I mention going to a mental hospital and getting help multiple times, you're the one harping on and fucking on about institutionalization.

I think you're just slipping so far into a gibbering defensive mess that you're hastily convincing yourself that someone else's post is mine so that you can safely disregard all the other instances you've been blown the fuck out.

You haven't been able to counter a single point I've made, all you do is introduce new hypotheticals and expect that to be some kind of damning rebuttal, which is pretty fucking retarded.

>>34665977
The age of your special snowflake conditions is also changing and coming to an end

Better be ready fuck boi.

Dr. John Money a quack
RIP in peace David Reimer

>>34665977
You're out of your fucking mind. Full stop.

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>>34665977
>comparing people who oppose the newest leftist trend of the day to flat earthers and young earth creationists

Is this bait? I guess if I don't go along with transpeciesism or transableism next I'll be an unenlightened rube once again.

>>34665977
>Also, science changes with new information
>science changes
>science

human biology hasn't changed

>>34664883
>the "man bad, woman weak" argument
That's not feminism. That's traditionalism. And it's true.

Despite what your feminist teachers told you, women and men ARE NOT equal. That's a biological fact. Learn to cope with it.

>>34666009
>human biology hasn't changed

But our interpetation of it has changed due to a better knowledge of science, but you wouldn't get that since you just off on "the libruls!1!' all the time instead of reading a book. You fucking /pol/ autists would defend the four humors as being the bedrock of human biology if you could.

>>34665398
>But it is a libel to suggest that the Republican party... became the racist party after 1964
I suppose so, my main point though wasn't WHEN it happened, but that it happened at all. Because as the party that spits on mexicans and other immigrants even when they're legal, complains about giving gays and other queers fair and equal treatment under the law (sometimes requiring laws,

>>34665408
>defending Phil's evidence
Half the shit he posts is complete bullshit though. The other half isn't bullshit, but is still usually being deliberately misrepresented to push a narrative.

Like when Phil, or others talks about how "You're 12 times more likely!" to be murdered by a black man than a white man... with the focus on the implied statement that this not only means blacks are more violent, but that white people are being murdered en masse by a horde of violent negroes! When the raw data from the FBI paints a different picture, and one far sobering when you see that the number of w/on/b murders are only half the number of b/on/w murders, with the vast majority of victims being murdered by someone of their own race. Which leaves that whole house of cards already falling down before you factor in that most murders are organized crime related, and all the other shit that blows Phil's "evidence" right out of the water.

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>>34666032
I'll just leave this here. Faggot.

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>>34666029
>interpretation

please tell me how XX/XY has changed, i'll wait