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Let's compare and contrast the Ukrainian civil war with our own.
Compare:
>Both consist of the government fighting against separatist rebel movements.
>Both were triggered by the election of an unpopular new president.
>Both had deep underlying causes that preceded the war by about 4 generations: the establishment of a pro-slavery constitution in America and WW2 in Ukraine.
>In both cases, the separatists are ethnically very similar to the people they are trying to leave. In both cases, they share the same religion and very similar language and culture. In both cases, both sides invoke that religion to vindicate themselves.
>In both cases, the government armies destroyed the property and livelihoods of separatist civilians, making them want to secede even more.
>In both cases, treatment of POWs by the separatists has, rightly or wrongly, been used as propaganda by the government side: Andersonville in America and Givi in Ukraine
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>>34658616
>In both cases, the separatists believe themselves to have paid unduly high taxes and to have received unfairly low benefit for it before the war.
>In both cases, both the government and separatist sides are supported by foreign countries. The USA was supported by Russia, and the CSA was supported by England and France. In Ukraine, the government is supported by the USA, and the rebels are supported by Russia.
>In both cases, the economy of the nation, especially in separatist regions, has been utterly destroyed.
>In both cases, political infighting on the government side led to stalemate in the first few years of the war.
>In both cases, the separatists have sympathizers within the government controlled areas.
Contrast:
>The Confederacy had a large pro-Union black population, whereas Novorossiya has nothing comparable. For this reason, Ukraine will be unable to have a "Reconstruction Era."
>In America, the separatists were primarily motivated by a desire, among their elites, to secure their property in slaves. In Ukraine, the separatists were primarily motivated by a desire, among the common people, to keep their language.
>In America, new military technology changed the way war was fought. Not so much in Ukraine.
>In America, there was little change of the separatists becoming, de jure or de facto, part of the countries that support them. Novorossiya is already under de facto Russian administration.
Anything else you guys think I missed?
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>>34658620
In both cases, anon was a faggot.
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>/pol/ in muh /k/
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>>34658634
And this is why the level of discussion we have around here is somewhere between bathroom graffiti, online teamspeak and fortune cookies.
As far as the OP's thoughts, I've not followed Ukraine sufficiently to have an informed opinion beyond
>as propaganda by the government side: Andersonville in America
Considering what the Union did with Camp Douglas, they have no right to condemn the Confederates with Andersonville. Henry Wirtz was screwed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Douglas_(Chicago)
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>>34658719
Most of the death and suffering at Andersonville was caused by a lack of food and medicine, which were caused by the Union blockade and Lincoln's unwillingness to allow prisoner exchange. The South even requested to have northern doctors sent to Andersonville, and Lincoln refused.
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