The VP9

>>34658299
I used to own one of the LE models and traded it, I can help out if you got questions.

>>34658299
I'll monitor this too.
Thinking about getting my first polymer striker-fired and these look interesting.

>>34658299
I got one when they first came out, but never liked it so I sold it. Glocks are just better.

>>34658339
What was wrong with it?

>>34658310
>>34658339
Why didn't you keep them?

>>34658354
There was a guy local that was trading a PU repro so I traded it off, I have other HK guns so I didn't really feel any attachment as I do my USP. The gun was great while I owned it.

>>34658299
I have one. Amazing trigger and comfy as fuck. A little big for IWB carry (Glock 19 is my sweet spot, thought the ergos on the VP9 blow the G19 out of the water stock).

Perfect pistol for OC.

>>34658369 I see did you use it as your carry gun?

>>34658388
VP9SK?

>>34658393
No I never carried it, I have a shield and uspc that I ccw regularly. I'm looking at replacing the shield with a p2000sk. I used the VP9 as a range gun and a gun to introduce new shooters to because it was so easy to manipulate and simple with controls.

>>34658352
>>34658354
Nothing explicitly wrong with it. I just didn't prefer it. They are solid guns, IMO, despite what any drone MAC fagboy will tell you about them choking on sand.

The VP9 feels really high tech compared to other pistols in its class. I really liked the slide ears for charging the gun and the mag release is cool. The original recoil spring was really light, so it was a really easy gun to operate. The slide looked high quality and the finish was attractive.

The grip wasn't for me, but the customization really makes you appreciate the gun enough to get it just right in your hand. My hand didn't really fit the finger grooves, though, and this was the gun that made me decide that I hate multi-piece grips (it flexed as I squeezed it) and I also don't prefer having the hump so high on the backstrap. I prefer either flat backstraps or having the hump so far down the grip (like Glocks) that you can't even notice that it's a hump.

The trigger was kind of underwhelming, not smooth through the pre-travel, and the trigger return spring felt weirdly stagey. The trough in the trigger guard also rubbed my finger uncomfortably.

Finally, it was just an uninteresting size. I don't mind owning like one full size polymer pistol, but I'd rather go with compacts for polymer and heavy metal guns for full size. It would have been just a range gun for me, and I wasn't floored by it, which means that I really didn't ever shoot it. It was an easy gun to part with.

VP9 owners may disagree with me but I believe the Walther PPQ is the better German striker fired pistol. Both have very good triggers but I just like the PPQ a little more with the smooth take up then a light crisp break. Very short reset if you like shooting off reset. The VP9 felt a little ratchety but maybe the one I tried wasn't broken in yet.

But if I were to get an HK I'd go for a p30 or USP LEM

>>34658448
My brother in law has a PPQ and the VP9 I had was equal in terms of trigger. The VP9 has that slightly mushy HK break but the reset was super crisp and clean.

>>34658402
I have a full-size. Prefer the Glock 19 over the stub grip of most 9mm subcompacts (the SK straddles the line between a sub and a compact, but the grip is just a tad short for my tastes with that big trigger guard)

Perfectly fine option if that's not a problem to you tho

>>34658448
PPQ has a lighter trigger. That's all it has going for it.

>>34658410
Why the P2000SK?

>>34658448
>>34658471
I also prefer my PPQ to my VP9. They're almost identical in size and trigger qualify, but the PPQ has a slight edge on comfort and trigger feel (IMO).

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i carry one, have since it came out.

ergos and mag release are love or hate. the charging wings are brilliant.

trigger is so-so on mine. breaks cleanly, and has a positive reset, but the trigger has a very definite stage in the middle. smoothing out the "hump" did shit on mine, as did replacing the bar itself.

PPQ trigger had smoother take up than the VP9, but the PPQ i shot was a real high round count gun.

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>>34658530

almost forgot. make sure you check the slide release before you buy. if your thumb gets too high you'll brush it and have failure to lock back on empty. you can change your grip obviously, but it's pretty irritating.

>>34658517
I prefer hammer-fired DA/SA guns, I've never really been attracted to striker fired handguns.
>>34658524
I didn't really notice any perceivable difference with how comfortable it is because both are very good shooting guns. Not trying to discredit what you are saying but because the PPQ has a great trigger but so does the VP9, they are just slightly different in their own ways. The VP9 I owned had one of the smoothest triggers I've ever felt and I've shot multiple high end 1911s to compare it to. The 1911s undeniably had better triggers but they were also 6 times the cost.

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>>34658299
I bought one a little less than a year ago before the election so I got fucked in terms of what I paid for it, but I haven't had any issues with it. I've since put about a thousand rounds through it and haven't had any hiccups. The trigger is god-tier (only the walther ppq is better imo as far as strikers go) and the wings are actually really handy. I keep the small grip inserts on mine and it fits my faggot hands really well. For carrying, it's a little on the large side but I've managed well enough IWB with a t-shirt. If you're interested, see if you can go to a store and hold it, or even put a few rounds through one if you can. I would definitely recommend it.

>>34658581
>little less than a year ago before the election
They were literally only $600 about three months after they were first released and the price has steadily gone down since then.

>>34658579
I get where you're coming from. I agree both have awesome triggers. I just prefer the super-light take up on the PPQ (though the VP9 has a crisper or more tactile break). At that high level of trigger quality that both guns share, it's just a matter of personal preference.

>>34658581
Thanks bro

At risk of jinxing it, I'd just like to point out that we're having a striker pistol thread (featuring HK, no less!) without shitposting. God Bless.

>>34658626
You're absolutely right, even if its not your preference you would be hard pressed to say either has a bad trigger.

>>34658352
Not him, but as comfy as they are in the hand I shoot Glock's, Walthers and SIG's waaaaay better.
My groupings are tighter on old USP's ffs.
I have somewhat above average hands, and the slide release wasn't as conducive as the trigger guard mag release on the PPQ's/P99's - I either had to shift grip to thumb it with firing hand, or use my trigger finger. On the P99 or PPQ I can easily reach it with my thumb.
The biggest problem it has is the point of rotation is on the trigger guard itself - compared to the USP where it's in the frame

>>34658299
Whether you decide to go for ppq or sfp9, either is going to serve you well. They are pretty similar in most regards, so just decide which you want in terms of ergos and looks.

Also, do try the Classic PPQ, the paddle release is the tits.

>>34658448
Having fired both the PPQ and the P99 are better pistols than the VP9.
The PPQ is a league above the VP9 and is striker fired excellence
Hell considering the Canik's are basically P99's the higher end Canik Elites would be better buys - either the DA/SA striker guns (same mechanism as most P99's) or the DAO striker Caniks. Avoid the Single Action Caniks

>>34658699
I wouldnt call any of them better than the other, apart from the turk shit.

>>34658509
PPQ's shoot better than VP9's.
Hell I shoot better with beat up old gen 3 G19's than I do a VP9 and the VP9 is very comfortable to hold.
The VP9 is the low end of the premium striker fire pistol market - PPQ, Steyr M, FN, and a few others

>>34658410
The VP9 is good with new shooters because it's basically impossible for them to drop the mag premature. The only downside is those with larger hands will tend to ride the slide release

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>>34658299
Get it, I love mine and when you buy one now you get like 5 mags free so go for it!

>>34658673
>and the slide release
Meant mag release.

However due to the placement of the slide release it's insanely easy to ride the release and get failures to lock back - it's worse than SIG's and your thumb instinctively wants to rest there

>>34658683
The Classic PPQ is still the best PPQ - the mag release joint is further back than the VP9's and it's very easy to thumb

>>34658788
The P99 is a great pistol.
The TP9's are basically product P99's - they are a pretty good deal.
Just avoid the Single Action ones

>>34658797
Im just looking for a good starter pistol that i can carry

>>34658797
Thats all subjective.
>>34658818
I have always trained to keep my thumb down and out of the way so its not an issue for me but I can see that being a problem for some.
>>34658885
I like the p2000 sk.

>>34658885
Budget?

Honestly anything Glock 19 sized or smaller will serve you well. If money is no issue push past the VP9 to the higher end HK's - the P30 and P2000 are excellent, as is the USP compact

>>34658299
Can't decide between getting this a sig p320 or a cz 07 HELP!

>>34658902
College kid with low budget

>>34658909
Shoot them and find out, or just get a USP.

>>34658919
There is a p2000sk near me for like 450, also a MK23 for 900. Check your local armslist.

>>34658867
I use my trigger finger to drop the mag. I don't have to change my grip at all, and since the lever arm is long, I don't have to reach back.

>>34658901
I've always high thumbed - thumb over thumb. I had to adjust when I got into SIG's otherwise I would trip the slide release. A new grip helped this greatly - the stock SIG grip has a bulge where your thumb should rest - which inadvertently puts your thumb on top where the slide release lies - It's also a reason why I'm pretty enamored with picking up a Arex Rex Zero1 compact instead of a P229 to go with my P226.
With the VP9 riding the slide release is practically instinctual - it's large, long and it's in a perfect place to rest your thumb.

The VP9 is a very comfortable gun, but so is the PPQ, and my issue main issues besides the slide release is that the mag release joint is on the trigger guard instead of recessed in the slide like the USP/PPQ/P99 - I have to shift grip to thumb it or use my trigger finger on the opposite side - whereas on the aforementioned pistols I have no problem thumbing the release.

The PPQM2 is arguably worse with a button release - the VP9 would actually be a better pistol with a button or a redesigned trigger guard release

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The VP9 is excellent imo
It, the Glock, & PPQ are my top picks for plastic striker guns.
Go to a gun store and fondle/dryfire the VP9 alongside a few other guns. Think about it for a day then get the one that works best for you.
Consider the VP9SK if its for concealed carry

>>34658299

CDNN has vp9 for $499 and hk has 4 extra mags for free rebate.

This is the best deal out there right now.

>>34658919
Used Glock 19, used USP compact/P2000. Used P99, higher end Canik or one of the EAA/turk CZ clones. Also Stoeger Cougar - but is full metal and railed models are hard to find.

Sorry for buds links, but here are some EAA options as an example
Witness Poly Compact (CZ Mags - CZ Clone)
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_21_231/products_id/411548803/EAA+999044+Witness+Polymer+16%2B1+9mm+4.5%22

EAA Sararms (turkish) ST10 -a USP clone that takes CZ mags
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_21_231/products_id/411549152/EAA+170815+SAR+Arms+ST10+16%2B1+9mm+4.52%22

SAR CM9 (is sometimes imported by EAA) I've seen these go for under $300 though - takes CZ mags
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_21_590/products_id/719015606/TRS+CM9+GEN2+9MM+3.8+17RD

Tristar (another turk company) makes full metal CZ clones and has a few compacts under $400.
All of these pistols are generally regarded as reliabler. If you don't want turk or Tangfolio you can always go for a Ruger or S&W's cheap offering

>>34658967
That's what I ended up having to do with the VP9 as well. My point is I didn't need to do that with a PPQ/P99/USP and could use my thimb

>>34659117
That's actually a smoking hot deal - I've been criticizing the VP9 this entire thread (Slide release, mag release, groups) but it's certainly worth it and then some for that price.
I still attest that the VP9 is a comfy as fuck gun to hold and shoot, and under G19 pricing it's a no brainer

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>>34658299
Very happy with mine.

>>34658299
I have the LE version. What do you want to know?

>>34659204
thanks!!

>>34659255
What makes it LE?

>>34659252
I love the FDE i might just have to buy that one

>>34659279
It's just a name thing. The LE model comes with a third magazine and tritium nightsights. Mine came with Meprolight sights like in OP's pic.

>>34658310
Fucking muslim faggot.
Daily reminder, your kind is the reason I have my guns

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>>34658797
>shoot better than
This is basically meaningless.

>>34659396
TRIGGERED

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>VP9

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*wipes away tears*

WAAAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>34659279
Trijicon night sights.