Family Photo Thread - Milsurp Edition

>>34654310
That's a lot of slavshit. Poor leafs

>>34654310
>having the same slavshit guns over and over again

Get some uniqueness to your rifles

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>>34654337
>Not understanding the difference between rifles

Oh ok Anon!

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This was the last time all my surplus rifles were in one place. Since it was taken I have acquired a Japanese Type-38 infantry rifle.

194? Yugoslavian Crvena Zastava M24/47 Mauser
1940 Turkish Ankara Rifle Factory "M38" (M98/37)
1923 Spanish Oviedo Arsenal M1893 Mauser
1923 Czechoslovak/Turkish CZ-Brno Vz.98/22 Mauser (2X)
1922 Czechoslovak/Turkish CZ-Brno Vz.98 Mauser
1914 German WF-Mauser Oberndorf Gew.98 Mauser
1911 Argentine DWM M1909 Mauser infantry rifle
1911 Argentine DWM M1909/26 Mauser cavalry carbine
1908 Carl Gustafs m/1896 Mauser infantry rifle
1899 Argentine DWM-Berlin M1891 Mauser infantry rifle

1919 Austrian/Czech/Bulgarian ŒWG-Steyr M.1895 Mannlicher infantry rifle
1920 Finn-captured Soviet Tula M1891 Mosin infantry rifle
1955 Chinese Factory-296 Type-53 Mosin carbine
1927 Finnish AV1/Tikkakoski Oy m/1927 Mosin infantry rifle
1929 Swiss WF-Bern Schmidt-Rubin Karabiner 1911
1940 Swiss WF-Bern Karabiner 1931
1943 British ROF-Fazakerley No.4mk.I Lee-Enfield
1918 British RSAF-Enfield No.Imk.III* Lee-Enfield
1940 Italian R.E. Terni Moschetto 1938 Carcano
1943 US Remington M1903A3 Springfield rifle.

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>>34654434
Aforementioned T38. 1909 Tokyo Arsenal.

>>34654434
I'm really diggin that M27! Nice to see the proper sling on it. What year is your captured 1891?

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>>34654454
>Nice to see the proper sling on it.
The m/34's OK; I keep meaning to get an earlier pattern sling for it but either they're too expensive or they sell out quickly. It's WAAAY post-war production.
>What year is your captured 1891?
1920.

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>>34654476
Also I derp'ed; the m/27 was made in 1933. Still has the pre-war copal lacquer stock finish.

1932 Oviedo Mauser 7mm
1944 Arisaka Type 99 7.7mm
1952 MAS-36 7.5mm
1954 Radom WZ-48 .22lr

All milsurp is trash for autists and poorfags

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It's a shitty picture and doesn't include all my surps, but here we go. From right to left
SKS
SVT
Winchester 1895
91/30 ex-PU
91/30 ex-dragoon
M38
M44
M91
Mas 36
1886 Lebel
Mas 49
1892 Berthier
Type 30 carbine
Type 38 carbine
Type 30 rifle
Type 99
No4mk1 T
P14
Gew98
Kar98az
Turk 88/05/35
Greek Mannlicher
Peruvian 1891
1903a3
K31
M95
M38 Carcano (butchered)
M24/47

That's a little old now though and like I said, doesn't have all my surps.

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Anyone else think it was really neat to see them beautify one of the ugly Spanish 1916s? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHyoUF50rF0
As for me, I'll just let mine stay ugly

>>34654310

I wish I could get a good pic of my stuff. Maybe in a couple months.

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>>34654310
I'm expecting pic related to arrive tomorrow.

>>34655144
nobody reply

>>34654434
Please sell me your M95 Long Rifle.

>>34654442
innit rare to get those with the dust cover still on?

>>34655360
I've seen those rifles being sold as lamps at gun shows...what caliber is yours in?

>>34655790
no one did, until you. anyone, people are entitled to their opinions, it doesnt have much bearing on mine

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I didn't include my M1 or flintlock bayonets

>>34656546
But you did include a bunch of non milsurp you lazy fuck. Didn't you look at the thread before you posted?

>>34656546
specs on flintlocks? makers and models?

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>>34657172
Also this. I need to take a proper picture of it

>>34656841
Left to right. Charleville, Miroku of Japan, Brown bess, Miroku, Brown Bess, Pedersoli

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>>34657172
>wood
>stone
>steel

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>>34655846
They're a little uncommon, but what's really rare is a matching dust cover.
Mine is matching but sadly the stock is quite beat up and has some gouges taken out of it.

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>>34654310
Need more pics, even if it's just my small collection being spammed again.

I'll post an updated picture of my 'surp collection tomorrow, just got a new one.

So is this the milsurp thread?

>bought mas36 sling from numrich
>it doesn't fit
Reeeeee

>>34656423
7x57

Mosin crate is gonna have a shooter grade K31 for $399. Also a Ruskie SKS with no bayonet for $329.

>Syrian contract mas-49
>put bid of 700
>still not beating reserve

this chucklefuck is it even worth to go beyond 700? I assume this fuck set it to 800+.

should I say fuck it and go for a krag I saw earlier with no cartouche for 600?

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>>34660847

here's the link

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/671062403

>>34660847

That's a good price for a Krag.

>>34660847
That guy wants too much then. He must not be in a hurry to sell because ita been up for months.

>>34660847
What a cocksucker, he's just trying to bait people into a bidding war over his overpriced gun

>>34659814
average prices that inflate with shipping and transfer fees

>>34660847
>bidding on auctions with reserve

you get what you deserve for encouraging bad behavior

>>34661019
>it's a anti-reserve autist again
kys cuck

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Just picked this up for $230 from J&G haven't taken it to the range yet but I'm excited. Anyone else have one of these?

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>>34661522
other side

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Ig it's surplus

Nice enough shape for being cheap

What is your guys opinions on Krags? My LGS has one for $250 in pretty good used condition. He also sells ammo for it.

>>34663102
Krags are pretty cool for $250 though it's certainly been bubba'd

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I'm the anon from the previous thread who posted about that Gew 88/05 in the pawn shop, well here it is.

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$225 out the door, so not a bad deal.

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There is still small amounts of cosmoline in the magazine, so whoever had it last didn't clean it well. I might have some time this evening to give it a thorough cleaning.

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>this once related rectally-traumatized an Australian on /int/

>>34655758
Sweet. I love the tremendous variety in Turkish Mausers.

>>34655810
Trade me a Berthier M07/15 infantry rifle.

>>34655846
Not hard to find them with dust covers, but hard to find with matching dust covers. My DC has no serial number remaining (either defaced by damage or possible an un-numbered armorer's replacement) so I assume it doesn't match.

>>34663189
>>34663197
>>34663211
Nice.

>>34663102

If it's original condition for that money then it's a steal and you should straight up offer him more for it. If it's sporterized then it's probably more than you'd really want to pay.

Krag ammo is really expensive, so prepare your wallet or prepare to reload.

>>34663189
>>34663197
That's a 88/05/35, not a 88/05. Lot of little shit changed, like the sights, bayonet mount, and hand guard.

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>yfw the seller is on the road this week and won't ship your gun until next week.

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Just got the Enfield yesterday

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>>34663661
My god, that stock

>>34663553
Thanks for the info, I don't know much about Turk rifles, but I couldn't pass this one up.

>>34661522
I've been eyeing one. If you've gotten the opportunity to shoot it in the last few hours I'd like to know how it was

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>>34663661
A real beauty. Nice collection Anon.

>>34663938
They're neat rifles, I have one myself.

>>34663534
>imply there's only one type of ammo that Krags shoot

Granted you're right about the Danish cartridge however 6.5x55 isn't horribly expensive.

>>34664975
Commercially available 6.5 is too hot for Krags. It's a hand load only proposition.

>>34665010
Wrong. PPU runs perfectly fine in them. Ask me how I know.

You're correct when it comes to commercial hunting loads meant for Tikkas and Blasers like those done by Nosler and Lapua.

>>34664650
I had some time a few hours ago and I took that Gew 88 apart. The entire inside was caked in cosmoline, obviously the previous owner had never taken it completely apart. Damn thing took forever to get clean.

>>34665074
Playing with fire chief. It's your gun and your face but PPU is about 43kpsi and the max safe range for a Norwegian Krag is 40.5kpsi.
>>34665284
Yeah, that's not uncommon. A good long bath in boiling water or mineral spirits cleans it all out though.

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>>34654310
>tfw waiting for surp to come
It's a good feel

>>34654310
Are you kids really proud that you paid money for this trash?

I mean I get the whole welfare check budget thing, but why would you be proud to own this?

Its like being proud of having a piece of shit car or a burned out house

>>34665616
i think they are neat

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>Feeding a (you) farmer

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Ignore and post surp.

Local pawn shop has a M96 Swede for $320. Looks decent at a glance but I didn't have time to fingerfuck it. How's that pricewise?

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>>34665722
>How's that pricewise?
Fair if numbers are matching and condition is good.

>>34665746
Cool. Doesn't really fit my needs ATM, but I might snag it if it sticks around a couple weeks.

>>34655313
>he doesn't have a genuine k98 yet

>>34665812
No real interest. I'll get one when I'm done collecting stuff I actually want to own and shoot.

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Here are my children, not all of them are milsurp but some are.

Hey Kap any idea what I could get for once fired PPU 7.5 French brass?

>>34665958
0.20 per. I can get virgin brass for 0.30 per.

>>34665866
Gee bill, two manlickers?

>>34659189
>tfw got it to fit
I had to yank that bitch through the stock sling mount but now I'm all set for mas36 innawoods

>>34666671
They were cheapo and I kind of want to do a crossed rifles thing over the mantle

>>34666784
That sounds sorta neat, actually

Didn't see a milsurp thread so just gonna post this here:

Going to a gun show on saturday and mainly want to pick up another milsurp rifle. I already have an M91/30 Mosin, an Enfield Mk 4 I think and a Chinese SKS. I was wondering if anyone could give me the maximum I should spend on rifles. I'm mostly looking for a K31 but wouldn't mind picking up a nicer Mauser or Carcano.

Please respond

>>34667454
I'd get a K31 if I were you.

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>>34666784
>>34667423
Like so but on a wooden mount

>>34667454

For a K31 you should be looking for $500 or under. For Mausers it's anywhere from $200-2000 depending on just what it is.

>>34667584
I like it

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>>34654310
Just picked up this bad boy today, and talked the shop into selling me the vintage ammo box and 40 rds of 8mm for only 15 bucks.

>>34667584
I think it would look better if you rotated it 90 degrees to the left t.bh

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>>34667901
fine

>>34667961
I was just having a laugh pal

>>34667994
THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU HAPPY

>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/670998078

did I do good boys? or did I fuck up?

>>34668029

Pretty good. I was dumb enough to pay $400 for a sporterized one. Most that I've seen for sale locally are listed at $800 or more.

>>34668029
real good

>>34654310
>Soviet M91/30/43 Trials Rifle

How rare is this? Never seen it before. I was like why is that m44 so long?

>>34668029
Nice dude.

>>34668136
it gets longer when I think of you

>>34668136
Actually kinda rare desu

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Since I just got a new member of the family, I though I might as well take a photo of them together I guess I'm not doing bad for 22. Sorry for the bad lighting, I tried to edit it some to make it look better.

Guns from top down:
Gew 88/05//35 (got on Monday)
DWM 1895 Chilean (1897 date)
Izhevsk 1943 M91/30
Yugo M48
Yugo M57 Tokarev
Izhevsk 1943 Nagant Revolver

Bayonets from left to right:
Swede M96
M1891 6.5 Carcano
AK (Bulgarian/Romanian)
P1907 (April,1918 date)

>when you base your next milsurp purchase on what bayonets you have.

What should I get next?

>>34664304
I actually just got back from the range with it.

So, overall it does really well, though the pistol I'm comparing it to is the one it replaced in my collection and in Poland itself (P-64)

Recoil is much improved, mostly because of the added weight and thicker grips (Which are actually really nice when you get them tightened down enough that they don't move)

Trigger is really improved as well, the double action is about half the weight of the P-64's and the single action is really nice and crisp at around four pounds.

Mag release is also improved, mags drop free and the paddle release is very large and positive.

My biggest complaiunt seems to be that it's a VERY fragile pistol. The metal they used when they stamped it out is very soft, and even light bumps against a harder material, or using the slide release for that matter, take small chips out of the metal. I'm not sure if it's just my particular one or not, but it would explain to me why it's a $200 handgun with excellent features.

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>>34654310
What should I look for/ where should I look for a glorious straight-pull *ping machine?
>Looking for long rifle and/or carbine.

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Just picked up my first SKS, a cosmoline coated Yugo from my lgs for $425. Price seem about right? It is a no-fun state.

Also what drew me to it was pic related, seems to be a bunch of what I guess to be last names.
Does that normally drive people away from purchases or towards them?

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>>34668812
I think its really cool. My Tokarev has what I am assuming is the issued soldier's name on the grip.

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>>34668888
I've come from far away to admire your get

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>>34654310
I guess just pretend a couple of the guns aren't in the pic.
>Late 1940 Springfield M1 Garand
>Kokura Arsenal Type 38 Carbine
>1942 M39
>1942 M91/30
>bulgy mak

>>34668136
OP here, it's super rare. There are I think less than 5 in the USA and around 60 in Canada. They made 1500 of them in 1943 as a test of the Semin bayonet system which was later added to the M38 carbine to make the M44. They recently turned up at a German importer who got them from an anonymous Eastern European Government (Ukraine probably).

>>34668888
The original tokorev did not have a safety, right?
Is it possible to get one in the us that does not?

>>34669636
From what I know, they originally didn't but the safeties had to be added to meet importation requirements.

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>>34668812
>>34668888

I like that sorta stuff, but there's a lot of people that would probably consider it to be "damage"

>>34669240

I'll give you tree fiddy for it. That's pretty cool though, getting something that rare must be awesome.

>>34669636
No they didn't and yes you can, but they will cost 3-4x more than one with a safety.

The Mosin Crate has M48s from $350-$400.

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>>34669809
>buy M48 last September
>It's already gone up by $100 dollars

This is crazy

>>34669871

I got mine a few months ago and rguns literally ran out of stock within the week.

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>>34669878
Got mine from AIM surplus for $299 on a whim because I wanted a nice first Mauser, and within the next week of me buying it they sold out.

>>34669907

Nice~

I still need to get my cosmoline off, but I'm lazy and the nosecap doesn't want to come loose.

>>34669925
>The Mosin Crate
Mine is a great shooter. Soft-shooting and accurate, bolt is a little stiff, but it will smooth out eventually.

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>>34654310
I LOVE this rifle. I don't know what it is about it, but it just feels 100% right. Just picked it up about 6 hours ago.

>>34670155
Looking at the sights I would say some kind of mauser but the bolt handle seems all wrong

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>>34670183
It's a Turkish Mauser carbine, made in 1945.

>>34670210
I don't like turks

>>34670231
I don't like what you like either, pal.

>>34670245
so you like turks?

>>34670210
Gee Bill 800 cartuchos

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>>34670279
Something about them, yes. We are talking about their rifles, right?

Pic is my first milsurp I got for my 13th birthday, an 1893 Turkish Mauser. I think that's what started the sentimentality for Turkish Mausers.

>>34670280
I fucking wish, box was empty, but got it for five bucks, and 40 rounds of 1971 dated ss ball Portuguese 8mm ammo for only 10 bucks.

>>34670345
If I was talking about Turkish rifles I would say Turkish rifles.

When I am talking about the Turkish people, I say the turks.

>>34670380
I've never met a Turkish person, no opinion really.

My 1st Mil surp was a Russian lever action, looked just like Winchester. My little brother painted it and turned it into a floor lamp for Mother's Day. Mom sold it at a yard sale.....

Low quality bait.

>>34670404
You lucked out

Maybe read up on Turkey and their bullshit antics sometime

>>34668029
damn that's a pretty good score m'dude

>>34661073
the reserve system is absolute shit though

>>34670447
I thought you meant personally, and yes I do know some of their history. Weird mix of Euro style shit and Arab tier fucking around.

I remember now I met a Turkish guy in college on my rowing team, was a good rower, but a gal I had a thing for told me he tried to sexually assault here, so I didn't like him anymore after that.

>>34670417

>My little brother painted it and turned it into a floor lamp for Mother's Day. Mom sold it at a yard sale.....

what's the address of your brother so I can find him and strangle him?

>>34670417
Bull fucking shit, too heinous to believe.

>>34667961
They kick like crazy, but they actually group pretty decent for a 19inch carbine

>>34670499
theyre big on the rapey antics
>>34670525
yeah they kick like a bitch

>>34670525
Not him, but I really like Steyr M95 rifles (especially the long rifle), but I absolutely can't understand the ergonomic nightmare that is the sling placement on those things.

>>34670614
My 2 pics there are the M95/30s, I only have a sling for one of them. It isn't that bad. As far as I understand, the /30's were intended to be used for cavalry, and thus the sling placement makes more sense while slung on horseback. My only gripe it the front sight post is sharp as fuck.

>>34670684
rifles in the pics*

>>34670684
They could have just placed the rear swivel further back...they chose what is basically the worst spot possible. I hold those rifles, and I just can't fully enjoy it.

>>34670417
Mine was a Krag made from the bones and semen of Teddy Roosevelt and Jesus. My grandfather, John the Baptist, sold it for a pack of gum and a tooth pick when I turned 18. So I know your pain.

>>34670717
eh, while not ideal, you place it further back and it becomes more awkward while slung

>>34663534
Thanks m8. Its in original condition and I get paid here soon so I think I might pick it up.

>>34663308
>Sweet. I love the tremendous variety in Turkish Mausers.
I got it today. I posted a few pictures of it in the thread.

>Trade me a Berthier M07/15 infantry rifle.
I don't have one...

>>34670614
It's nice for carrying, but yeah that sling swivel doesn't lend itself to a nice grip. No experience with the full length steyr. What it like shooting it?

>>34670882
I never got to shoot the long rifle while I owned it (was made in 8.15×46r), but it was an absolute joy to handle. I miss it.

>>34670934
I've never run into the full lengths but the /30's shoot 8x56r

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>>34654310
I only have one family photo so I'll just crop out the non milsurp... Scribble out the RPR... Aaaaaand done.

>Over 9000 hours in MS Paint

>>34654434
Where did you get your ŒWG-Steyr M.1895 Mannlicher?

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>>34663211
I love my GEW88/05

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>>34670155
>>34670210
Looks good.

>>34671084
Gun show. Traded a Remington 710 and $50 for it.

>>34665477
>Boiling water
I've always heard about this, doesn't water mean insta-rust when it come to a gun?

>>34671289
No. Boiling water will evaporate pretty quickly. And obviously you'd dry it off afterwards. Unless you're retarded I mean.

>>34665866
How bad is the LEL-KEK SU16.

I like Kel Tec as an idea because
>They're from my home state
>They love to innovate (KSG,SU16, PLR16)

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>>34671303

I wish that I could stop buying milsurp long enough to pick up some Kel-Tec stuff, I like how they do innovative things that no one else seems to be interested in.

Old pic missing like...5 new 'surps.

>>34667454
Steyr M95. Every surp guy should have a Ruck-ZuRuck/TA PUM

>>34670684
they look really nice
I want to get an M95 some day but they're not common up here in Canada
would you say they're worth getting? do you enjoy them?

>>34671315

Not him. They're Phase 3 for me, but I'll get there eventually.

>>34671303
So actually, not that bad. I only use it as a backpacking gun, hence the shitty paint job. Pretty light and holds 2 10 round mags in the buttstock. IMO the integral bipod sucks and I don't use it but the irons ain't bad. Recoil is fine, and actually fairly accurate. Also folds in half, so also handy for backpacking.

I've seen the PLR-16 and don't get it at all desu.

>>34671319
Eh I picked them up because they were pretty cheap and I though straight pulls were neat. Ammo is basically online only. Recoil fucking sucks, but it's fun from time to time. I think there are better rifles but they're fun for a collection. No matter what, the action will stick.

>>34671294
Do you pour it down the barrel or....?
I'm a newfag to surp and cosmoline removal. I've also heard about cleaning the barrel with rubbing alcohol due to its fast evaporation and lack of water.

>>34671330
>Action will stick
Fuck that sounds like the Ross Rifle:(

>>34671362
just means you have to yank it a little harder than you would think. its worse pulling back than it is shoving forward

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>>34671350
I pour boiling water down the bore of all my milsurp purchases, it really helps remove any cosmoline and I find it loosens any other fouling inside. After pushing a dry patch through I spray that shit down liberally with WD-40 (Water-Displacement-40) and let it sit for a few minutes. For all other cosmo removal I use acetone on metal and don't bother for the stock.

When you shoot the amount of black powder I do, hot water isn't scary anymore.

>>34670969
8.15×46r is an unobtainium cartridge that was popular in Germany and Austria at the turn of the last century, and only one manufacturer makes it, and for 70 bucks for 20.

I've seen one or two in the wild, last one was S marked. I'm going to all the gun shows around me in the next month so I can find one.

>>34671216
>Looks good
Thanks man

>>34671315
>TA PUM
>tfw I was the one that suggested that song to Othais and Mae

Heard that song years ago in a WWI documentary, liked it, and researched it until I found out it was about the M95

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Who does this man think he is with this price???
>http://www.armslist.com/posts/6702144/louisville-kentucky-rifles-for-sale-trade--steyr--m1895

>>34675874
He's just a retard that thinks he can get WAY more than what they paid. People like him are that way about literally anything they sell. They can't be helped, they're just stupid and that's all there is to it. What hurts too is that people that are stupid can't be helped to learn not to buy from people like that, and so the vicious cycle goes on.

>>34670934
>I never got to shoot the long rifle while I owned it (was made in 8.15×46r
>Steyr M.95
>8.15x46R
Modified for competition I assume?

>>34676285
Weird thing was I think it was purpose built as a one off, because it was in totally standard configuration, but had no serial numbers. Had a neat Shutzenfest plaque inlaid the back of the stock, from 1905.

>>34654310
Okay, dilemma. I am purchasing a Mosin that looks like your Finnish capture aesthetics wise (with all the splotches) but I want a stock that looks like your trials rifle. How do I achieve that finish? Send it off to a gunsmith? I'm not skilled enough to do it myself, what do I specify like what type of wood is it called

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>>34676495
>it was in totally standard configuration, but had no serial numbers. Had a neat Shutzenfest plaque inlaid the back of the stock, from 1905.
Fucking cool; I've never even heard of one before. It makes sense; like a Mauser "Wehrmannsgewehr" equivalent for Austria-Hungary.

>>34658419
Is that face supposed to be disgust or arousal?

>>34661522
>>34661543
>P-83
I see you are a man of culture. Just got my holster in the mail today and three additional magazines last month.

>>34668533
Lovin' the stock on that Mosin.

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no4 irish contract

>>34676838
The rare Leprechaun Contract Rifle. Where'd you find it?

from a german online shop. 325 €. he had no idea what he had...mwuhaha

Well, since I don't see an actual milsurp thread, what is /k/'s opinion of the MAS 36 51, got a guy on armslist willing to trade me that rifle for a firearm I am selling. Its an equal value trade, but I wanted to know what I might expect with that rifle.

>>34677015
Breddy gud for a late-tier bolt action.

>>34676698
With her, nobody ever knows.

>>34676584
That's basically what it was. Sucked I was so fucking broke I had to let it go.

>>34677024
Thing's damn near mint so I'm looking forward to picking it up.

>>34677015
A great rifle that has no safety.

Local gander has some 24/47s from $180-210 if anyone lives in SEWI

>>34677015
Fun stuff, my Mas36 is my most accurate milsurp rifle. What's your value on it, you getting a deal?

>>34677169
Well, I guess that means I need to follow safe firearm handling procedures, as is standard.

>>34677197
Yeah that's just a thing with most French rifles. Safeties are somewhat unnecessary on infantry rifles anyways.

>>34677185
Trading my polish PPS 43c that I payed sub 450 for. Plus 6 mags I have. Rifles seem to be going for around 550, so I think its fair.

>>34677185
Wait. Don't tell me you're the guy I'm dealing with in this sale...
>>34677215

>>34676524
OP here, if the stock is original Russian, it's probably Arctic Birch. You can achieve the same look by using garnet shellac diluted which is available at any hardware store.

That being said, the finish on my Finnish captured rifle is 100% original so you'll have to make a value judgement on if the rifle you're getting has the original finish or not.

You can remove splotches and such by thoroughly degreasing the wood and very lightly sanding. I'd advise against chemically stripping the wood. Use the sun and a garbage bag. Once the desired stock base is achieved put a few thin even coats of the garnet shellac on.

>tfw waiting to make my next purchase until my Cunt&Radish is approved

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>>34677237
Nah dude I have a pre armistice mas36. Boy, if a 36/51 is worth 550, i really did steal this at 400.

>>34677817
That's what I see em going for on gunbroker.

>>34654310
I need to force patina on some bullets, how do I do that?

>>34677817
I see a few in bad shape or refurb going for less though.

>>34677852
OP here.

What do you mean by bullets? Do you mean the brass casing, the complete cartridge or the actual projectile? Is the projectile bare lead, copper coated or cupro-nickel jacketed?

My suggestions depend on your answer.

>>34677203
>safeties are unneccesary with rifles carried lock and cocked

>>34677890
Sorry, Lead bullets, tried using vinegar but it just darkened the brass, what I'm after is a white lead oxide coating.

>>34677901
The French infantry doctrine was to carry the magazine full with nothing in the chamber. If the rifle had a magazine cutoff it was engaged. The idea was to single load cartridges to preserve ammunition whilst keeping the magazine in reserve.

>>34677911
As far as I'm aware that kind of patina is formed through exposure to air. You could try putting them in a pressurized container full of pure oxygen...

>>34677951
I hear smoking cigarettes around that will help, too. Something to do with the film that tobacco smoke leaves mixed with 100% oxygen

>>34677963
Don't forget a shaggy wool sweater and socks.

>>34677901
For infantry? Yeah. You either carry it with one in the chamber, or you don't.

>>34677998
Does the rifle have a magazine cutoff or do I just push the round down a bit before closing the bolt?

>>34678323
The latter.

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I set a mental limit of $405. I should have went to $430

>>34679530
eh I guess. I mean that one is beat to shit

>>34679530
No guarantee you'd have won by bidding more. Just keep hunting man, you'll get one eventually.

>>34679530
nah, ugly stock, typical wear on bluing. 350 max, let the idiots overpay. check your local classifieds and LGS consignment sections, they can be had for 300-400 all day in that shape

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No bayonet sorry ^.^

>>34679694
timestamp

>>34679694
is that a fucking t-gewehr
I like the little socks

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>>34679555
>>34679585
>>34679661
But I already own one. It was from the 50's and the rifling and bore were in good shape. The condition that stock was in I don't think anyone would have bitched has I sanded it. But ehh I got mine for $300 from Gander Mountain nonetheless. The dumbasses had it marked up as a K1911.

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>>34679811
Wow. My grammar goes to shit when drinking.

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>>34677479
Is this finnish? It's an ex-dragoon apparently, does that make it inherently not finnish? I don't know agh

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>>34679694
You get a pass, I am now painfully erect.

>>34679811
local shop has 3 on consignment for $299 but i already have 4 because i bought them when they were $80 so meh. awesome rifles, worth every penny up to $500 id say. id pay $800 for one if it was unissued

>>34679875

Does it have an SA mark?

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>bonus point for bayonets
ok

Sweaty Ben has 92S turn-ins for $300.

>>34679920
Where do you live? I will buy the shit out of those?

>>34679958
>>34679958
roseville california

>>34678348
I mean I jury rigged worse

>>34679943
sog has them for $280

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>>34679875
If the receiver has an [SA] or a B on it, it is 100% Finnish capture. Post a pic of the receiver markings and we'll take a look.

An ex dragoon could easily be Finnish captured. The ex dragoons and 91/30s were only available to be captured during the Winter War and Continuation War.

From the picture, your stock finish looks original. I'd leave it alone. It's a mid WW2 stock so definitely a depot replacement of some sort.

>>34679920

Damn.

I paid almost $600 for mine with some ammo, chargers and reloading dies.

>>34679982
considering ammo is like 60 cents a round and chargers are like 15 bucks a piece thats probably alright. also depends on quality and condition, nicer = worth more

>>34680004

I'd say it's "K31" condition.

Perfect bore, good receiver, semi-fucked stock.

6 chargers, 36 rounds, 20 once fired brass and reloading dies.

>>34679969
Shieeet...

>>34677173
holy fuck what a deal
wish I was American, they're like $500 at least in Canuckistan

>>34676733
The magazines are unobtanium for me at the moment. I got the extra when I ordered but I can't find anything else online

>>34680173

You get cheap SVTs, it more than balances out.

>>34669907
Sorry again about stealing your pic /k/ompadre

>>34679928
Nice milsurp, have you ever shot the Martini Henry?

>>34680312
Not anymore we don't. They're all gone with no more coming in for the forseeable future. The only thing we have left are SKSs and once the Russian ones run out (which is coming soon) it'll be Chinese only.

I'd rather have $400 Lee Enfields again and Yugo Mausers for cheap not to mention laws that at least lube you up before fucking your asshole. Our Gov. enjoys our crying when they go in dry.

>>34680441

Come on down here then, bring an SVT and trade it for an Enfield and a Yugo Mauser and you'll get enough money to pay for the gas.

Do it in a red state and no one needs to know.

>>34680479
I'd rather trade it for Reichsrevolvers and Chamelot Delvignes that I could take home and buy a new car with. Even a few Bodeos would do.

Antique handguns go for RETARDED amounts of money up here. $2000 for a pitted, re-nickel plated Belgian pocket pistol with a worn bore and loose lockup. Why? Because our laws are insane.

>>34679694
How in the fuck?

>>34679928
I love martini henry's

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>>34679694
That's fine.
Mine don't have them either.

>>34680019
dies are at least $50. you did alright, i wouldnt say you overpaid at all, just market rate. which is a good buy considering its still an undervalued rifle that will go up further in the future

>>34680441
you still have $400 enfields and cheap yugo mausers, fyi

>>34680612
L O N G B O I

>>34680657
Show me a non sporterized non built from parts by joe chucklefuck Lee Enfield for $400 and I'll buy it tonight.

>>34679969
What is the shops name there? I mught call them and see if they do out of state transfers.

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>>34680433
Yes. i hjad 10 rounds of the super old Kynoch shit from the fifties

1 out of 10 was a dud. the other 9 were hangfires. But it was so fucking worth it for that clink noise it makes when you eject the shell

>>34680787
do your own shopping nigger i just bought one for $225

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>>34679980
There are two Bs on this one, I think the first one is unrelated but could the B on the left side second to last row mean it's Finnish capture?

>>34681640
Well they're latin Bs but cyrillic Vs, I don't know what you meant

>>34680787
http://www.armslist.com/posts/7109870/columbus-ohio-rifles-for-sale--lee-enfield

http://www.armslist.com/posts/7108427/kansas-rifles-for-sale--enfield

http://www.armslist.com/posts/7098998/savannah-georgia-rifles-for-sale--lee-enfield-for-sale


http://www.armslist.com/posts/7039740/grand-rapids-michigan-rifles-for-sale-trade--1968-ishapore-enfield-2a1-308

http://www.armslist.com/posts/7093430/ann-arbor-michigan-rifles-for-sale--enfield-2a1-308-7-62x51

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6913342/charlotte-north-carolina-rifles-for-sale--fs--no1-mkiii--enfield

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/671836458


http://www.gunbroker.com/item/668769087

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>>34681740
In Canada ya dingus, that's what we were talking about...

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>>34681640
Fuck I wrote that when I was a little drunk, I meant a D not a B. Your Mosin doesn't look like it has any Finnish markings. The big square stamp is the refurb marking for the 7th GRAU arsenal located in Riga.

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FN mauser in 7 mm for $216?

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>>34684102
That's the Spanish Oviedo arsenal, not FN. $216 is a good price if matching.

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>>34684116
Sure enough. I just saw "fabr" and assumed it said "fabrique national." I believe it is matching

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>>34684137
Some more crappy snuck pictures

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>>34684147

>>34684116
What parts are supposed to be serialized? They also had a zastava m70A for $169

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>>34684137
>>34684147
>>34684155
Looks like a typical post-Civil War refurb. I paid $250 for my similar-condition matching Model 1893 last year.

>>34684166
>What parts are supposed to be serialized?
Receiver, barrel, bolt body, stock, handguard, floorplate, triggerguard (if numbered).

>>34684166

Pretty sure that's a great price for the pistol.

>>34684182
>>34684226
Thanks. I think I'm gonna pass. I've bought more guns than my budget allowed this month already

>>34684254

I know this feel. I'm working on getting my credit card balance down, but I've also got a bid in on GB and I'm eyeing a gun at a pawn shop. The one in the pawn shop isn't even on my list, but I'm still eyeing it.

>>34684281
I found a 1879 dated vetterli in good condition for $100 and a 1922 Lithgow smle with a pristine bore with a 1917 dated bayonet for $375 that I just couldn't pass up and they put me over. I somehow feel guilty but excited at the same time.

>>34684475

Ain't nothing wrong with being a little over if you get what you want. Long as you still have money for food at the end of the day.

I'm thinking about buying a new(er) car next year, which means I'll probably have to cut way back on my shooty bits, which sucks.

>>34684492
Budgets suck man, but I'm usually pretty good about staying under mine. I just graduated and don't have a job yet (white male in STEM), so it's getting to be crunch time

>>34683259
>>34683259
shouldnt they be even cheaper there since you live in the country of origin and all your men brought them home with them?

>>34685931
You'd think so but boomers have been hoarding them for the past 35 years. Demand is far outstripping supply currently.

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r8, h8, and eviscer8

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>>34688373
Bretty gud m8, needs more rimfire tho

>>34684520

>(white male in STEM)

You're too privileged to have a job. You need to be gay, transracial and disabled to get one.

So /msg/, I'm in the market for a K(*k, what should I expect to pay for one? I've heard that Russian and Yugo captured ones are cheaper, what would they run? Anything I should look out for?

>>34690607
$400-500 for a Yugo capture, $700+ for a Russian capture.
Look for matching serials, most importantly a bolt matching the receiver, but for the most part they're mismatches. Russian captures can have the eagle stamps on the receiver, but the Yugos are generally sanitized.
Honestly if you just want a K98 and don't care about historical value then get the Yugo capture.
Also there's plenty of good other cheap 8mm short Mausers, such as the VZ24, Yugo M48 or M24, Spanish Mausers, the FN 24 and Chiang Kai Shek Rifles.

>>34690732

I already have an M24/47, M48 and CKS rifle. I need a K98k because then I'll have one from each of the major contributors to WW2.

Personally I would argue that a Yugo-capture has as much, if not MORE history as a non-capture rifle, but I recognize that that's just my opinion. Not having the German markings doesn't mean the history is gone, it's just hidden.

>>34690810
Nice, it seems like you've got your bases more than covered.
I agree with how you feel about Yugo captures. I think if you can personally enjoy something then the collector value doesn't matter as much, and besides any K98 is probably gonna increase in value over the years.
One thing I guess to look for on the Yugo K98 or any K98 really is early production features as well. Most notably the early style front barrel bands were milled and nicer looking, but it's mostly an aesthetic preference.

>>34690904

Yeah, that's the nice thing about collecting for yourself instead of to try and turn a profit, you can get what YOU want, not what someone else will like.

Personally I'd love a Russian captured rifle, I've heard they crossed out the German markings and put their own on it, that's like getting a bonus history to the gun, I like ones that clearly have connections to more than one country (Like my SA stamped Carcano). I'd love to snag a Japanese Carcano too.

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This wasn't what I had in mind when I went looking for a M1917 but this poor thing had been neglected for decades after falling prey to bubba, and they were practically giving it away.

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>>34692861
So anyway, I did a thing. It's still sad but at least it's a whole rifle again.

>>34692872
You sure it's not a Model 30? I can't see the receiver markings?

>>34694196
No, I wish. Model 30 have a different profile at the back of the receiver. This one just had the sight protectors ground down, bubba took a drill to it and also cut the military barrel down to 24". It's a Remington from 1918, got flaming bombs and shit. Mix of Rem, Winchester and Eddystone parts.

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>>34692872
Poor thing, at least you are giving it a home.

>buying milsurp to save it from bubba

Saw a K98k at the fun show today, mismatched bolt, receiver and stock. Apparently it had been bubbaed, then they'd put a Russian-capture stock on it to fix it. They wants $800 so I didn't make an offer.

>>34695184

I really need to get some nice pictures of my 'surp.

>>34680612
Bullshit. Timestamp or GTFO

Hmmmm...

What do you guys think of post-war Czech built K98ks?