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Where are my PA /k/ boys at?

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Better question, when are we forming our fire teams? I love PA. As much as I hated it growing up, after adulting for a few years I've grown to realize its pretty chill here as far as gun laws go. I mean look at our neighbors. New Jersey = fucked. New York = fucked. Maryland = fucked. Also we have the largest Cabelas ever made which is just a cherry on top of a not so bad sundae.
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NH fag here. How are the gun laws in PA? I'm curious.
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We've got a slack/discord.

Careful, autism levels are off the charts.
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>>34653354
Shall issue. No waiting period. Pretty based.
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>>34653347
South Philly reporting in
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>>34653347
DEbro located south of you here. Our laws are fairly cash, except for the absurdity of the CCW permit process.
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>>34653354
They're pretty decent. We're free to pretty much do as Texas, Wyoming, etc do.
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Bucks county fag here. PA is bomb as fuck. Although i only opperate inna Potter, Tioga, and Clinton counties
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Delco represent
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>Can't keep loaded long guns in vehicles
Shit tier Texas is better
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>>34653395
Enjoy buying new shoes when the blacktop melts the sole on yours
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Enjoy handgun registration PA cucks.
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>>34653392
>bucks county
Hell yeah, that's where I used to live. Only bad thing is I lived in Morrisville, so you can imagine all the niggers from Trenton
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>>34653379
De laws suck. No suppresor
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>>34653409
>self-healing soles
Sounds like a win win
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Any somerset fags?
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Cambria county reporting in
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>>34653379
DE too, just finished most of mine except getting prints
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>>34653448
Oh god. Good to hear you made it out
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Going to be in Northern cambria from the 3rd-10th of August. Anything good to do? The house we are staying at is literally innawoods and I plan on exploring old stripmines. Maybe getting cheeki breeki..
Bringing my AK, AR, makarov, fuddy five and .22. Plus 1000 rounds for each. That being said, I see that PA is open carry without permit. I dont plan on sperging out, but the area I am staying in has pretty bad heroin crime. Can anyone clear up the law? Am I gonna get fucked with?
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>>34653347
I would like a PA gun bud to help me uncuck my nongun status.

t. NJ refugee.
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>>34653347
Raised in Chester County, currently living in nofuns Japan. It's a great place to live but I miss guns. I started feeling the withdrawal once I got my internet set up and reading /k/ again.

>haven't worked a slide in 7 months

I did get to show up a Canadian at an air rifle range, but that's as /k/ as it gets here.
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>>34653571
What part of northern Cambria?
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Former 717, now in justthetip of Delaware. For a may-issue CCW state, are they still fairly lenient about giving it out as long as you go through the proper steps and aren't a shithead?
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>>34653347
NJ resident looking to escape to the real US soon. Any advice on what should be my first act of true freedom?
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>>34653362
This. Though it os /k/ after all.

Yes PA has a group set up for people who live in and around PA.

We have meetups every threeday weekend when all we do is camp, shoot, and hike.

We also have build parties, meetup at gun ranges/shows, camp and hike.

Planned meetups are for the abandoned pa turnpike hike/overnight camp. Along with another parkerfest over laborday threeday weekend.

We currently are sitting at about....55 members from various parts of PA and bordering states like NY,NJ,WV,and OH.

If you want to join us drop a throw away email and I will shoot you a invite.

>pic related
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>>34653571
In terms of crime, as long as you're not walking down the street at 1 a.m. with your wallet hanging out of your pocket you don't have much to worry about. Is heroin a problem? Yes. Is some junky gonna go to your cabin and try to rob you? I mean anything is possible, but this isn't Johnstown these hills are full of old men with enough guns to start a small army and any criminals know it.
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>>34653681
Also anyone in the 724 / clarion,armstrong,butler counties area?
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>>34653610
Various parts. I am visiting family. But mostly Cherry Tree and along the Susquehanna. I will mostly be staying about a mile or 2 from the Susquehanna Inn. Its a bar that burned down not to long ago. I dont know of any other landmarks to identify that location..

I would be down to meet up one day but I wont have transportation unless I can convince my cousin to drive me around. I always have gas money to throw though
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>>34653681
Ever do anything at Trop in Elizabethtown? That place is a solid hour drive from where I used to live, but I loved it.
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>>34653694
Cherry tree is like maybe 12 mi. from my place
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>>34653681
[email protected]

I'm one of the DE anons, but easily close enough to still enjoy my home and favorite state.

Unrelated, any of the other DE-anons in here have recommendations for the best gun store and/or range in state? I have no problems making a weekend drive south to Dover area if there's a store that's worth it over the limited selection up here around Newark
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610 here. Any other 610? No Reading fags no one likes that shit hole and if you haven't heard of it you're better off.
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>>34653715
Lived about 10 minutes from them up until a year ago. Didn't realize how much of a big deal they were until a few years ago. They've really spoiled me as far as standards for a good gun store. Always seem to be decent people too; I took my SKS in there to get looked at after I had to buy a new bolt assembly (before I realized that headspacing isn't really a big issue or anything that can even be changed on an SKS) but they still gave me a voucher for a free hour on their range just because they couldn't do anything with it.
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>>34653780
Only positive to Reading is the MAAM and WWII weekend
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>>34653715
no, But there are some guys in that area.

I host the meetups on my property here in SW PA.

>>34653681
forgot to upload the webm from the memorial day meetup.
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>>34653780
Raised in Kennett Square, son.
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>>34653805
That, and Sheetz starts at Exeter.
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>>34653810
that meet up alone had 17 people show up at its peak.
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>>34653778
They have awful hours but if you can make it to ommelanden than they're pretty nice. It sounds like you're in New Castle County (?) If so, target shooting solutions isn't too far and I enjoy going there.
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>>34653765
I would totally be down for shooting if you are interested. Im sure my cousin could drive me one day if you would be interested. I dont shoot other peoples ammo and I bring all my own food/water/supplies and ammo. I think I am going to go camping one night in Carroltown. Youre welcome to join.

>>34653684
From what I am told. There are heroin houses by where I am staying. Not to mention, we will be in town a lot..
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also if you might get a cool patch only 20$ + shipping + handling but if a cool pabro you get pa discount which is free
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North East Philly here.
Whats up?
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>>34653471
Yeah, it sucks about that.
>>34653550
I'm gonna guess that you live in Newcastle county. No anons down in my neck of the woods. The worst part of the process is the waiting, and the monetary cost.
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Fun S.T.A.L.K.E.R. times in PA
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>>34653876
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>>34653876
MUSEUM GRADE
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>>34653876
I'd only pay 20 bucks if you provide proof they are made in the US.
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>>34653901
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>>34653907
I'd pay that much if she posts her boipucci
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>>34653888
Yeah I live right on the boarder of Elkton in Newark
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>>34653780
Marple boiiii
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>>34653837
Ommelanden looks promising; do you know what kind of distances they offer? not much info online it seems.

Forgot about TSS; since it's over state lines and mainly a storefront I just kind of rule it out subconciously but I could still go shoot there I suppose
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Fayette County fag reporting for duties
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>>34653805
Yea but you go like 2-3 times to either of those you've seen it all. Reading = general slums of wanna be thugs and welfare mommas with 4-5 kids by the age of 24. Reading was poorest city in the nation in 2012 I think lol, its actually sad.
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>>34653888
Where are you at? I'm in the Milton area
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>>34653915
I live in Ocean View, so basically on the complete opposite side of the state.
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>>34653943
I'm >>34653956
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>>34653876
I has one. It's dope af.
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>>34653904
only the museumist

>>34653907
they were made by custompatches.net senpai
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>>34653965
First state meet up when
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>>34653997
I was talking to someone who had land in Kent county about it back in the Spring, but haven't heard anything since. I'd be up for it.
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>>34653934
OwO whats this a southwest /k/ommander? post a burner email
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>>34654020
[email protected]
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This is now a Georgia thread. Fulton county fag reporting in.
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>>34653997
your state doesn't have 4 flamethrowers and is #1 in arson.

remember kids 2nd place is the first loser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY3SCrtksnY
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>>34654056
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>>34654050
No its go home faggot
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>>34654080
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>>34653393
>>34653780
>>34653927

Havertown boyeeee
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What are the odds of finding a PA /k/ thread today
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>>34654102
Honestly I'm only in DE until I finish college and then I'm moving to the West.
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>>34654106
Awwww shit nigguh
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>>34653681

Get at me man. Located in SE PA
[email protected]
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>>34653876
>$20
Why so expensive?
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>>34653625
It's on paper a may issue but it's super lenient. May as well be shall issue the process is just shit
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>>34654228
Good to know. Someday I don't feel like shit after I wake up I'll have to get that taken care of
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>>34653347
How do I volunteer to secure gunrights and a relatively low taxrate in PA? I'm a filthy out of stater and the only thing I know is to ree at other fucking migrants who want to turn this place into the same shithole they left.
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>>34653379
Smelaware is trash.. you guys can't have NFA, you have a retarded CC process, no open carry preemption, fixed blades count as "concealed carry," and you don't even have reciprocity with any neighboring states.
>>34653384
Except unlike Texas, we have open carry.. smuganimeface.png
>>34653421
Take slide off gun, becomes "firearm" under PA law. Next
>>34653814
I am sorry I know the feel.
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Is it legal to hunt with semi-autos in PA now?
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>>34654281
Technically, yes.. go read the book, because I think vermin are g2g for semis
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>>34654295
in a nut shell yes, I just got a fur takers for $20 at my LGS . currently waiting on yote calls from Amazon.
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>>34654327
>needing daddy's permission to kill vermin and pests
Lol Texas strong
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>>34654340
>needing permission to OC.

it's amazing how cucked Texas is.
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>>34654364
Enjoy keeping a loaded rifle in your car
Lol oh wait
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>>34654378
>T. non ltcf holder.
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Is it worth getting a black powder gun to get a jump start on the season or have most people gotten on the BP train and the hunting is about the same?

Also I don't understand bag limits, can I dip multiple times and get a flintlock, muzzle loading and rifle hunting permit for a total of three deer or is there a annual limit?
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>>34653933
Pretty sure they max out at 50m, but I haven't been there for a few years since I went to college in Philly. Almost definitely the cheapest place you'll find though, plus it's fun to shoot clay pigeons. TSS is nice because as far as I can tell the only other public range (i.e. you don't have to belong to a gun club to visit) within 30min is Target Masters which I believe is worse.
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I'm moving from my cucked state to PA in the near future, where are the /k/ places to move to. I was already told to avoid Philly area and Pittsburgh.
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>>34654340
>can't carry into restaurants with signs in them
> not a cuck state

Pick only one
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>>34654423
If you want the true bumfuck woods, central/north central. A lot of the suburban towns between Philly and Pittsburgh (think Harrisburg vicinity) are decent, though I'm biased because that's where I grew up, but they all are within easy driving distance to state game lands and the like. Part of the greatness of the state is that outside of the cities, nearly everywhere is close enough for a day trip to either game lands or state parks or something, and outside of the cities as well most people are gun-friendly, or at least tolerant and accept their existence.
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>>34654447

this is true
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>>34654447
spot on
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>>34654445
>5.Any private propertywhere a landowner, tenant or person so authorized to maintain property has asked you to leave because you are carrying, or where the propertyowner or tenant has placed signs or placards denoting that guns are forbidden-Title 18, Chapter 35, Subsection 3503

Rlly mks u thnk
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>>34654447
seconding this. I live in clarion county.

only about 30 min from Walmarts/large town. an hour away from the Allegheny national forest and 2 hours from Pitt.
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>>34654472
And 6 hours away from anything that actually matters.
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>>34654447
Thanks.
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>>34654447
I should add that living in Lebanon County was nice too because it was very central to any destination not outdoors-related you could want as well: NYC is ~4 hours, DC is ~2, Baltimore is ~2, Philly is ~2, Pittsburgh is ~3, and NJ, MD, and DE beaches are all no more than three or four hours away.
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>>34654481
>6 hours away from shit holes known as philly and NJ.

im okay with this.
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>>34654279
DE can have SBS, AOW, and DD. I'm not picking up on the open carry preemption though.
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>>34654467
>mfw Texans will defend this
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>>34654497
You can't open carry in Dover, DE and Elsmere, DE
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>>34654507
that's a PA statute, m8.

Also stop fucking replying to shitty b8, PA is good but not great right now and we are working to change it, texans will just autisticaly screech about being the best /k/ state while having middling laws at best and doing nothing to change it.
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>>34654518
If you go to dover, anything bad happening to you you earned. It's probably law to prevent suicides. I mean have you ever been to dover? It's a town that makes you want to swallow a 9mm.
God I hate that town, and that's my rant before we factor in the nascar shit...
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>>34654413
I think Targetmasters is decent. Range is always clean and there are usually no nuisances running around. Plus they have EMT/Fire discounts which got me a relatively cheap new g17
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>>34654518
Those places are avoidable shitholes. With Dover, you can get a free open carry permit by writing a letter to the municipal police. Not good by any stretch of the imagination, but it's doable.
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>>34654530
I only go there for my college courses and the kickass milsurp store.
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>>34654530
>>34654553
This is why I didn't get into the family business of being in Delaware all the time.
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North Central reporting.
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>>34654118
OP reporting from Berks County. Been wanting to start a thread to see how large the /k/ is in PA. Its surprinsly larger than expected
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>>34653693
724 Mercer county reporting in
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>>34655054
sheeeit nibba where at?

>inb4 foxy or styer shill.
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>>34653778
Newark got cleared out hard. X ring used to be my goto store. Not sure how millers is doing now but Itthink there is some survival store on 202 north of Wilmington but if it is the place that used to be on Marsh rd fuck that
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>>34653347
Where is this Cabelas? Harrisburg?
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>>34654518
Doesn't Wilmington and city of New castle have similar shit?
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>>34655302
The one near a rather large jewelry store. Do not let wives learn it exists
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>>34654648
Grew up there but 07 fucked the job market hard so moved.
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724 butler county reporting in.
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>>34655091
>>34655778
drop your throw away emails.

can add you to the group.

need more SW PA guys.

>mfw I got a 600 yard range near clarion.
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>>34655054
what I said here. >>34655816
replied to the wrong post.
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>>34655816
>>34655824
[email protected]
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>>34653421
We don't have that tho, unless you mean PICS, which isn't a registry.
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>>34653805
Maple Grove is a nice drag strip to run at.
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>>34655879
Sent
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>>34656066
Actually I can't remember the password for that email. Can you send it to this one as well: [email protected]
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>>34655759
Glad I grew up on the right side of 41.
>>34655714
Not the last time I looked I try not to visit your state.. Despite having to have worked there about 4 years ago.
>>34655960
Also true.. And also faster than NICS
Going further, the state isn't allowed to keep the records of sales.
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>>34656376
sent again.
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>>34657146
Have you noticed that only newfags talk to you?

Anyone that has met you never wants to see you again.
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>>34657449
strange.....considering that the meetups are on my land while getting larger and new and oldfags alike of the discord/ slack keep returning.

should tell me who you are in the discord or slack ;^)
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>>34657541
It was me, Ray!
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>>34657618
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>>34654662
Hyner, nice
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How nice is it to live in Philly (not the gun part)? I'm thinking of looking for work there.
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>>34657541
Oldfags that show up are just there to get you to spill your autism.

Sakuya will rape you some day
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Tx here, get gud faggots.
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>>34657667
Depends what part, I live in burbs and work in Philly.
Much better way to do it.
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>>34657676
im not cute enough for him.

he only wants fel or don.

then again he has a BF now so.
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>>34657676
I wish sakuya would rape me
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>ITT: PA /K/rew circle jerk.

Why can't we have a PA thread without you fags shitting up these threads?
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>>34657706
Don't we all.
Don't we all.
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>>34657722
Autism never hides
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>>34657722
No.

Go fuck yourself.

PA is our state.

We have the best toys.

We got the best camping spots.

We got the best meetups since creep abandoned us.
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717-Lanco here. Trop best shop.
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>>34657811
Sure the range and stuff are cool and the range fees are....... reasonable, But their prices on ammo and guns could be better.

but over all yea it is one of the nicer more well-maintained shops I have seen in this state with altra firearm and grices being up there.
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>>34657786
Creep didn't abandon us, he gave his life for outer haven

also add me [email protected]
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>>34657686
I actually don't know enough to even tell you that. But where are nice places to live, then?
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>>34658001
In the city proper or the burbs?
Center city old city are nicest to live and needless to say prices match. Keep away from North Philly, west Philly is cleaning up since they colleges are buying up everything. There some dicy spots still farther out.

Burbs, really can't go wrong, if an area looks bad it is. Also depends how far out you want to go.
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>>34658051
The most I'm willing to drive out is 30 minutes from my job.
I would most certainly like to avoid high crime areas. Now that I think about it, the location doesn't actually have to be Philadelphia, but it would be nice if it were reasonably close.
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>>34658088
There's also a lot of trains if you want, that's how I get to work and I own a car, I have a low tolerance for traffic, and stick shift.
Philly has it's own county and borders Montgomery county. look around there and google SEPTA if you feel like training it vs driving.
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West Philly reporting in here. Any good 100 yard ranges in the area? I can't find anywhere to shoot my rifles
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Chester country reporting in.
Sgl 43 meetup when ?
>>34653395
Dude pic related its not that bad
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>>34653374
me too friend. ever go to that shooting range on front street?
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>>34653780
West chester whats good


>>34653814
Nothing but Mushrooms + mexicans sucks dude
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>>34653347
Former Phoenixville, now Berwynfag here. PA is the shit.
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>>34653805

814 Elk County here.
Pretty sure MAAM and WWII Weekend are the same thing. Been doing Bataan impression there the past few years.
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>>34654106
Chi rat present
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>>34655271
I haven't been in to the place on 202, but they look to have a pretty decent selection from teh website.

Anyone know good stores in SE PA? Looking to get my first gun that isn't being gifted.
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I'm looking into planning a day trip to the range for local SE PA /K/omrades.

If I get enough interest, I'm going to try to rent out a range. Send me an email if you're interested
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>>34653681
Let me get in on this pls. This sounds exactly like what I want minus the part of me doing work
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>>34655302
Hamburg, PA
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>>34658433
Kutztown/Hamburg sup bruh
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>>34658379
I'm there at least once a week. We may have already met.... send me an email
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>>34659656
>[email protected]


sent
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>>34659606
Sounds awesome, there's a good group there. Sent email from burner.
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Greetings from Quakertown.
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Pittsburgh, here. Hate this city. Am originally from Northwest PA, in Warren County. Heart of the Allegheny.
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southeastern PA fag here. who wants to go check out this new range with me? just opened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR5tXV1PfC4
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>>34662263
Looks pretty cool. Might have to look into it. Does anyone in here have the chat link for PA /k/ fags?
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>>34655824
That's as far as he went on the bridge

/r/ing pic of Parker crawling off of bridge
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>>34653681
From behind enemy lines...
[email protected]
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>>34662330
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>>34657811
I buy my funs at lanco and shoot them at trop
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>>34658088
>The most I'm willing to drive out is 30 minutes from my job.
>I would most certainly like to avoid high crime areas. Now that I think about it, the location doesn't actually have to be Philadelphia, but it would be nice if it were reasonably close.
Buy some fixer upper property in Camden, fortify it, and commute into Silly Philly by light rail.
If you survive the next few years, you'll thank me when Camden gets gentrified and you make bank.
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>>34662314
Email Parker for invites to slack and discord
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>>34662640
What's the email?
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>>34662623
They've been saying that shit for decades and it's still a shithole, that's like saying to invest in detroit
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>>34662665
Drop your own email and someone will send you a link to the discord. I don't think parker left his email in this thread so that means he probably doesn't want it posted here
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>>34654423
>>34654423
>avoid pittsburgh

LO FUCKING L

the good...
cheap rent
good jobs in certain sectors
Pittsburgh is central to:
POINTS NORTH (and northish)..
Lake Erie and Allegheny National Forest (2 to 3 hours drive north), Cooks Forest,
Conneaut, Pymatuning, and Moraine parks/lakes, McConnells Mill park, Moshannan, Susquehannock, and Sproul state forests

South:
Monongahela National Forest in WV (2 to 3 hours drive South) as well as Coopers Rock, Cheat Lake, Deep Creek Maryland, and Washington and Jefferson National Foerst in VA, Yough Lake, Ohiopyle

East:
Ligonier, Lynn Run, Loyalhanna, Buchanan state forest, Raystown Lake

West:
Hocking Hills OH, Racoon Creek State Park, Hillman State Park, Beaver resevoir.

and the Ohio, Mon, and Allegheny rivers and their DOZENS of tributaries.

This list doesnt include the dozens of state gamelands, a bunch of other state parks, or county and local parks

You can fucking bike, hike, and Kayak IN the city of Pittsburgh. You can bike, hike, and kayak close enough to throw a rock at a skyscraper and hit it.

the bad about pittsburgh:
Its run by dems
urban youths
taxes
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>>34653395
Texas lacks permitless open carry. PA doesn't
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>>34653347
Northampton county fag reporting in. I just got a Garand for $795.
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>>34653650
Fuck off PA is full. fix your problem in your own garbage state.
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>>34653876
where does a fellow Pennsylvanian acquire said patch.
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>>34659063
MAAM the org that operates the aviation museum at Carl A. Spaatz Field and which organizes WW2 Weekend
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Send me discord email [email protected]
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>>34654523
no, its not.

anti carrying signage in PA carrys no force of law, if you're asked to leave by a representative of the property then you have to leave or risk a trespassing citation from LEOs but you can flat out ignore signs that businesses post saying "no carry" or "no weapons". With the exception of federal offices, court houses, and schools
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>>34655816

Eh I live up in Blairish area.
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>>34655302
there is also one in Triadelphia WV which is an hour drive from Pittsburgh
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>>34663098
>PA supports private property owners
Oh no so anti American.

I'm not racist or anti gun but I don't understand why an owner of a private establishment can't dictate their own rules. If they're fucking up hard enough that it dictates government intervention then the free market will definitely have shut it down already.
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>>34663203
because owning property doesnt make you soveriegn or any grant special rights, especially when the property is a business open to the public and not a residence.
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Fellow PA resident Chester County Reporting in.

>Stop Thief you've Violated the Law
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>>34654720
reporting from Northumberland county
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>>34663203


They can dictate their own rules.
If its private property
Its private property.

You can conceal carry or open carry on private property.
You can drive cars without a license on private property.
As long as you own the property or have permission by the owner.

don't listen to anything else.

This has been established by many cases in law.


its stone

>>34663259
Private property is private property. It doesn't matter if its "open to the public"
You already have rights. And they are protected.
Read: your rights are assumed.
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>>34663117
Drop your email and I Will get in touch with you.
>>34663090
sent.
>>34662334
sent.

>>34662665
drop a throwaway and I will send an invite.


also Moobs any innercity sucks get over it enjoy your over priced ranges that are small or are shitty indoors.
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>>34654467
Not realizing that they can do it because they don't like the fucking shoes you are wearing. store owners can dictate who they want in their store for any reason.
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>>34654423
Pittsburgh is fine but can get "dark". Philly is a horrible chocolate city with shitty people and shitty cops

t. philly kid living in pittsburgh
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>>34653347
Any PA kids around pittsburgh that shoot at Iron City Armory outdoor range?
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>>34663877
read the thread.

Im near pitt along with 6 other guys in the PA chat.
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>>34657667
If you have the money to live in center city it is fine. I OC every day and have walked by hundreds of cops. Only one rookie cop asked me if I was licensed. I said yes and he said sorry for bothering it's my first week. Didn't even ask to see it.
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>>34658257
West philly here, university city. I travel to a private club in in an hour west tho for long range.
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>>34653392
Quakertown standing by
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Area code 570 reporting in.
Where do you northeast PA anons shoot?
Also, has anyone used the Penn State police station at university park to store guns? I'm considering using the service and shooting at the SGL range near state college this coming semester.
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>>34663981
OC in Philly... rate doubt. on paper it's legal but you're almost always near a school not being legal and cops don't know that shit.
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>tfw im gonna be living in cali for a year
>tfw lived here my whole life

What am I prepped for guys?
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>>34664360
I know what is what everyone has said millions of times online. But my experience of OCing daily for almost 3 years is much different. Like I said I had 1 cop out of hundreds barely even care and have also had no crazy soccer mom interactions. Maybe it's just because I wear polos or button downs for work all the time and don't look like a sketchy school shooter in an overcoat with long hair in the middle of the summer.
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>>34664360
Also in CC philly there aren't many k-12 schools near the bars/living areas so that won't be a problem. Also nice I can have a casual beer while I'm carrying as well. Completely legal.

Sometimes in winter when going to the range in a slightly sketchy neighborhood I will CC my AR pistol under my pea coat just in case.
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No offense, but still not sold on this, now if you are dressing like you do, I guess people just assume off duty or a detective or something. I still have my doubts, and lol who hasn't carried a "pistol" or SBR as a CC in winter. Best part of PA winters.
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