Most effective camouflage

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>>34651589

>>34651639
Why did you take a picture of the ground and put words on it?

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>>34651673

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>>34651639
Nice.

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>>34651673

>>34651589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sxlbHaErRk
hands down

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>>34651589
totally dependent on environment and season, no camo is best camo. Go watch some of brent0331's videos on youtube, plethora of different camos and their effectiveness in different wooded environments.

Alpenflage was surprisingly effective.

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>>34651589

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>>34651673

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>>34651673

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>>34651734
Multi terrain also implies multi season, even though that will obviously be less effective.
Brent's vids don't take into account night-vision resistance.

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>>34651673

Doesn't night vision camouflage have more to do with a special coating added to the fabric than a particular pattern? I have a multicam suit which supposedly camouflages against night vision.

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Auscam (camo used by the Australian Army) is actually extremely effective in either arid country like most of Australia or anywhere with a lot of leaf-litter

>>34651734
>>34651773
Alpenflagge was originally designed by the Nazis to defeat early nigh vision devices. And to be a all terrain all season camo for greater Europe.

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ive never seen anything work better than Auscam, the warmer colours make a big difference when compared with other woodland type camo's

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ACU is the best.

>>34651734
Alpenflage is excellent in places that tend to have lots of leaves on the ground, or where there is little green foliage on the ground.
Some other great camos can be sourced from Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Germany. Some meh camos are DPM, Belgian Jigsaw, French CCE, and other camos that have too dark colours in them. Honestly, you just have to realize the terrain in your backyard and find a uniform to go with it.

>>34651734
>alpenflag was surprisingly effective
>surprisingly effective
>ITS SUCH A SURPRISE; SO EFFECTIVE

EVERY camo thread, you say this.

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>>34652446
>ACU

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>>34651589
Russian digital flora

>>34652561
This is the first time ive ever posted in a "camo thread". This isnt even a regular topic here so get your fist out of your ass.

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In my local surp store I found this never used/washed brown dominate erdl jacket from '79 I think. It needs to be faded some more though so it'll work excellent

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>He doesn't wear cuepat2

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>>34652446
I think we can agree that it is indeed the best camo for stalking about grandma's house.

>>34652446
ACU is the uniform cut, UCP is the name of the camo

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>>34651939
No, it is -my understanding- that the farther you see the pattern, the more it merges into a single color, and that makes it stand up more to NV, so the pattern needs to adress that, and that is the reason for black stripes like in Woodland or Alpenflage.

>>34652124
Yes, but do you think it is still the best in that regard, or multicam-like pattern are better since then? Alpenflage looks to dark for anything else than inside a shady wooden place.

>>34652446
The worst*
I love AridFlecktarn (pic related), but being a commercial pattern, I am not sure about its NV capabilities.

>>34652832
>No, it is -my understanding- that the farther you see the pattern, the more it merges into a single color, and that makes it stand up more to NV, so the pattern needs to adress that, and that is the reason for black stripes like in Woodland or Alpenflage.
That might be so in the past, but in modern camouflage it's in fact a coating.

>>34651958

Based on the old USMC duck hunter.

Auscam is great stuff in the scrub, especially when well worn and faded.

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>>34652600
> mfw

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>>34652843
Isn't it both?


Pic related is quick test I did today wit what I have. Overall, multicam was the best except always a bit too bright, CCE came second, Flecktarn was not that bad but always too dark, the others were unefficient, particularly digital (even on a sand/rock surface).

>>34651589
As far as universal patterns go, Multicam and Auscam can actually hold up in almost environment.

As far as specific environments go, Alpenflage is fucking great stuff for the mountains and it holds up for almost all seasons there, especially for a group, where it would appear as a few patches without snow cover, rather than one oddly human sized patch.

>>34652755
Works fantastic in much of southern Idaho. Sagebrush and dry grass is basically UCP and it only gets better the drier it gets. Just stay away from the rivers/greenery and you're good. Also matches some tree barks pretty well.

If I had to pick a best camo I'd go with A-TACS AU or FG. When I used to airshit I damn near stepped on a guy wearing that shit. Marpat and multicam are amazing too.

>>34653018
I have actually seen it work innawoods.

It was late fall and sperg nat guard friend insisted on wearing his uniform. He strolled off to take a piss and I didn't realize he was back until he was less than 10 feet from me.

I don't know what made it work, but it just did. He was fucking invisible in it. Maybe they only activate the invisibility for active issue equipment.

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>>34652124
>Bright Red and weird browns
>The middle of European winter

Uhhhhhhhhhh

>>34651773
US4CES transitional is exceptional at handling NV

>>34651673
You're not funny, fuck off leddit

>>34653045
I've made UCP work in some trees once myself but most places we went airshitting were garbage for UCP with nothing but massive amounts of greenery. Hugged a tree and a hardcore player with his fancy sniper couldn't see me aside from the stream of BBs flying at his general direction. Lighter tree bark and dry wood does amazing things. He also probably learned to be quiet as fuck. I still need to go out innadesert and take pictures standing, kneeling, and prone in my airshit setup. Hopefully going to use it for hunting bambi sometime this year.

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>>34653066
>Bright Red and weird browns
>The middle of European winter
It's more likely than you think

Many parts of Europe (including the "low" parts of Switzerland) are only sporadically snowy in the winter. A red & brown dominant pattern is ideal for the conditions, as you have lots of dead grass and fallen leaves all over the place. The red adds contrast without standing out much.

>>34653627
Took me a while to find the hidden guy!

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>>34653705
Bitch you best not be fucking with me.

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I've always seen a shitload of instances where multicam is displayed as the "better" all around camo, now this thread seems to be making a good case for US4CES.

Which one is easier to buy?

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>>34653762
>not activating your thermal sights while browsing the interwebspace

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>>34653627
>Lots of dead grass and fallen leaves
Michigander here, multicam is actually a pretty ideal pattern for winter around here (Coupled with a nice whiteish winter poncho, of course) Pretty much perfect for early spring.

Leaves lose their color pretty fast after they've been on the ground for ~a month. You'd stick out pretty bad walking around in Alpenflage in winter. But yeah maybe winter in Northern Italy or Coratia would work pretty well with it. Cannot see it being worth a shit in any area that gets significant snowfall.

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I like m05.

>>34652624
You're a bad liar.

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>>34654012

Snow version is good too, at least in nordic forests.

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>>34654123

...as is the frosted forest / early winter variant.

>>34654133
It's a bit dark for proper frost, to be honest. It's more suited for very light snowfall.

>>34651589
NWU I if you fall in the drink

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>>34654164
Fact: the reason the Navy is moving away from Type I is the increase in number of sailors hiding from morning muster.

SRVV surpat. It's brilliant.

>>34651939
>Doesn't night vision camouflage have more to do with a special coating added to the fabric than a particular pattern?


Its called irr or infra red reflective treatment and all issue cammo has it from the cold war on. should not be wahed in other than plain soap flakes no brighteners etc.

Faded flectarn and mustard yellow do most things for me.

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Definitely CADPAT

>>34651939
>>34652843
No. It's the dyes.

>>34651673
>0.01¥ have been deposited into your account.

>>34654687
Why would you give someone $0.00009 USD... who does that?

>>34654774
The fresh prince of Zimbabwe.

>>34651589
cum

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>>34651589
I always liked the Lithuanian M05.
Was in Kaunas when I saw a few soldiers chilling in the park, had to kind of strain my eyes at a distance at first, thought they were bushes or something.

Might just be my patriotism talking or the fact that I have dick feelings for those uniforms, but I'd say they're pretty effective.

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>>34651716
>>34651726
>>34651763
>>34651771
>>34651784
>>34653073
>>34654687
Why in the fuck did so many /k/ids bite?

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>>34654856
>calls others /k/ids
>thinks a guy joking about camo being invisible is baiting
This is bait, right?

>>34654774
if it's yuan (afaik the same symbol as yen), it would be 0.0015$

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>>34654856

>>34652664
The fuck is this Wile E. Coyote bullshit? Does that actually work?

>>34654845
Know where I could buy that?

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>>34654133
>>34654123
Desert variant is pretty sharp too.

WHY HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF US4CES AND WHERE CAN I BUY SOME US4CES GEAR?

>>34656569
Shut up faggot

>>34654596
Notice how the area the cadpat is sitting in is a much deeper green and right next to it is a fucking guy in a bunny suit to draw your attention away. It's almost like that test is rigged.

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>>34651589
>multi terrain

Why is nobody mentioning SURPAT?

>>34656569
Buy it from a Mexican marine.

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>>34654964
It's what happens when you allow computers to design camo, it does work, but I'm not sure anyone would want to wear it

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>>34656606
It's also not CADPATs environment though, CADPAT is intended for canadian woodland

Jesus fucking Christ, arfcom is /pol/ colony too now?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2016543_BREAKING--Wasserman-Schultz-IT-Staffer-Imran-Awan-Arrested-at-Airport-While-Trying-To-Flee-Country--.html

>>34657179
oops, wrong thread

>>34652637
>when Hitler was Reich and all you want to do is kick the T*rks, other Muzzies, Gypsies, and other undesirables out of your country.

>>34654845
>they're all white
How DARE they!

>>34652600
can confirm the fuckers are almost invisible in Arma 3 especially in wooded maps like germany Celle

>>34657184
You do know you can delete your own posts, right?

>>34652600
That new Russian camo looks pretty neat desu

>>34657250
yeah

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As far as one single multipurpose camouflage, multicam/OCP/skorpion/whatever is still the best. If you can switch patterns depending on location or time of year, then there are better options.

>>34658093
Still depends entirely on where you live. Where I am it never gets that light.

>>34652600

Noice. I hope the God Emperor brings an end to our aggression and drops Obama's sanctions. I can't wait to get Russian surplus again.

>>34652561
>such effective
>very surprise
>wow

>>34652351
>never seen anything
I see what you did there.

>>34651589
Anybody soured on Multicam, because seemingly every dog, cat and grandmother wears it? Even your middle eastern rebel/terrorist likes it or fucking Russianz kited their SOF in them.

>>34658093
>Let's get the darkest woodland we can find and compare it to a tan camo in a tan environment

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Why do the tactical fags seem to shit on hunter camo like realtree and what not? I've never hunted, but if you're mainly going to be in the woods, they seem pretty effective.

>>34651589
solid olive drab dirty with the soil of the area you're in

if you want to look like the ground, roll around in the ground

>>34659424
Is that common military folklore? I was one of the first soldiers issued ACU's in basic, and we were all bitching about how they don't camouflage worth a shit. One of our drills said they are supposed to take up the color of our environment when we are rolling around in the dirt and such. I never noticed it really work though.

>>34659409
They're very effective when you're perfectly still against the specific backdrop they were designed for, but in any other context they suck hairy nuts compared to normal camo.

>>34659454
>One of our drills said
wew

>>34659501
When you are 18 and in basic, drills are the smartest idiots in the room.

>>34659501

not that guy, but UCP actually does work when it gets all dirty. i doubt it was designed for that though.

i had a drill tell me once that UCP was digital because it was designed so satellites could recognize it from space

>>34659409
tactical fags like this guy >>34659492 think they are teir one spec ops and will fighting in many different places once the zombies come and they can finally be heros (and lose thier virginity)

>>34659529
That was another one too, I'd forgotten that nugget of wisdom,

>>34659492
camouflage doesn't work if you're moving, regardless of pattern, human eye is designed to pick up movement.

best camo is not being seen.

>>34659529
as someone who has been hunted while evading in UCP, the only thing you can do is roll around in dirt and try to get it dirty, smear some ash on it as well.

>>34656740
because you can't really get it without spending an ungodly amount

>>34659535
(You)

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>>34659535
>not wanting to lose your virginity when the zombies come

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>>34651673

>>34659691
well now I've got a boner and a new fetish

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>>34659691
NEAT

op go play MGS3 and then come back here.

>>34656414
wtf are suomi bros doing around a bunch of mud people?

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>>34660108
Peacekeeping is just about the only international op Finland takes part in. Those are peacekeepers in Shitbuckistan.

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>>34657025
in an urban jungle? hell yea

>>34657025
>allow computers to design camo
That's how you get Skynets.

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>>34659409
Mostly this:
>>34659492
Different situations, different uses. Hunting in military cammo is mostly as stupid, as going to war in hunters cammo.
>>34652600
Its a cool one. Thou I prefere SURPAT.

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>>34659691

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>>34661352
>Hunting in military cammo is mostly as stupid
Why? Do deer perceive human outlines differently than people do?

>>34651673
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>>34651784
>>34659692
samefag pls go

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>>34654878

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>>34659691
even with no teeth, the muscles of the jaw would be enough to absolutely destroy a man's cock

>even so...

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>>34651673

>>34652600
Of course the slav micro pattern works good from that tiny distance. From afar it is just a green blob. And that sucks.

>>34661377
>>Why? Do deer perceive human outlines differently than people do?

That`s one of the reasons. Animals DO have different vision from humans and different reflexes. In addition, military cammo is more or less multi-terrain and designed not only to conceal stationary position, but also break shilouette while you move. That means that in specific terrain and without movement, it will allways loose to hunter cammo, made specially for this terrain.

>>34657222
It's fucking Lithuania, dumbass. What do you expect

>>34661730
you are talking about the early Digital flora, and that work well with some European forest

hell, the Austria still use OD green uniform

Digital flora have more than 100 deviation

>>34658898
keep sucking that trump tit you stupid shit

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>>34651673

>>34662391
>Lithuania
So none of them are white

>>34662431
>Digital flora have more than 100 deviation
And because they all lack a macro pattern they are all shit.

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>>34651673

>>34653808
You can't buy US4CES, Cramer is keeping all of his cool shit to himself. You can only buy it in sheets of fabric.

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>>34651673

>>34651673
AHAHAHA xD LE SO FUNNY XD UPBOATED

>>34653627
looks like PA

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The only true answer

>>34662978
>>>Reddit

>>34654012
That pattern looks larger than usual, is this some commercial variant?

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>>34652914
>Flecktarn was not that bad but always too dark
If that pic is yours you live in a dry af shithole. Of course fleck doesn't work there super efficient.

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>>34663453
Nah, tower marked factory surplus. That's a still from a video, so the quality is a bit bad.

>>34651958
I like how the belt loops are actually big enough to accomodate a pistol web belt if needed

>>34657209
Except Hitler liked the muslims because of how much they hated Jews

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>>34651673

>>34652783
Im surprised no one has tried to fight you yet. I mentioned that in a thread some months ago and some faggot kept saying how it doesnt matter, and that "Everyone in my unit called it ACU!" And "Stop saying UCP it makes you look retarded!"
4Chan is truly an autistic place

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>>34659691
N-Nani?

>>34654012
this camo is sex

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>>34664422
Truly

>>34664319
As strange as it sounds this anon is right...

He even declared them Aryans in 1936. Not even "honorary" like the nips, straight up Aryans.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/187128/nazi-romance-with-islam

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>>34651673

I live in BC, Canada. Similar landscape to MT, OR, and WA. I want to use Flaktern for innawoods, anyone know how well it would work? Or even cadpat

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>>34664601
i feel like the Chink look at them and copy the concept into their Type 07 Camo

>>34652637
I really hope hans in front is wearing ear protection

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>>34664991
French sf right ?

>>34665219
13th Parachute Dragoon Regiment (French: 13e Régiment de Dragons Parachutistes, 13e RDP) is a special reconnaissance regiment of the French Army. It is one of two regiments in the French Army Special Forces Brigade,

>>34665266
iirc that's a commercial german pattern

>>34665508
Actually no. It's a Danish variant of the German Flecktarn

>>34654596
That ninja cammo is amazing

>>34665591
according to camopedia the danes don't have a snow camo pattern issued. and that camo looks ecaxlty like the commercial pattern made by tacgear.

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>>34665266
>>34665591
Nice info

>>34652446
You realize it's called ucp right? Acu is army combat uniform, the style of the uniform, not the camo pattern.

>>34661377
>that whole thing
wtf?

>>34661115
>doesnt know that skynet is actually a thing already and has already killed human beings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKYNET_(surveillance_program)

>>34651589
I swear to God if Multitarn comes out Im gonna be broke for the rest of my life.

>>34651673
put me in the screen cap! hi mom

>>34662995
looks like karst/ozarks to me

>>34665129
lol not even? the fuck?

>>34654596
CADPAT and ESTDCU are my favorites. Wish you didn't have to marry a crooked supply clerk to get ESTDCU stuff.

Multicam by far is the best. I went on a training mission with some mates to the US (Texas to be exact). We were protecting a compound from their assault. Against the wood line they were absolutely invisible I shit you not. Us aussies come in a close second though (;

>>34662619
Fuck off you diseased cuck

Go lick some more tranny assholes

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>>34662619

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>>34663068
HELL YEAH! THE BEST CAMO IS SUPPRESSING FIRE!

>>34668177
>Texas
Not much of a surprise there

>>34662619
Dont worry you only have seven more years to deal with him.

>>34662431
tell me about deviations and why they're good

>>34652637
>VHat? Vhat? I can't hear you. The gun was too loud Karl.

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>>34661730
>>Of course the slav micro pattern works good from that tiny distance. From afar it is just a green blob. And that sucks.

Just to make sure that you understand. "From afar", the eye catches mostly the motion, not the color difference. That means, that you can be perfectly camouflaged with single-color BDU (Like Jews still use), as long as you are being still. And use the landscape, damn it. Multi-colored patterns are usefull at shot to medium range. And digital flora is pretty much ok at that.
Pic - superior SURPAT camo

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m05

>>34671724
Eek, a spooky scary skellington!

>>34671771
hello Mr.Iweighfourhundredpounds

>>34671724
is that a Bulgari PKM

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>>34671793


russian

>>34671771


huh

>>34671782
Nah, just 90kg.

>>34671724

Ugh.. exposed socks.

Recruit tier shit.

>>34671939


t.reservist corporal

>>34660206
>Those are peacekeepers in Shitbuckistan.

Sweden?

>>34655458
You can not. It is for military only. Maybe you could find to buy it from ex-military.

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>>34651673

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>>34651589

>>34651639
where's the US4CES ?

>>34662995
>>34666324
Looks like a forest in fall, a crick and a crouching guy to me

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>>34651673

>>34654863
It's the 800 reactions for a slightly funny joke

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>>34651673
Include me in the screencap!

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>>34659691

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>>34651673
I want in on this

>>34665702
Belgian army, not french.

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>>34652600
Is that first one the Vietnamese lime-woodland camo. Preddy underrated pattern desu, consider how they work the light green in to suit bright lit patches of vegetation.

>>34664342
No that person is retard.

>>34672518
Since when has Sweden used M05?

>>34673230
if they work so great, why the Viet replacing it with a new woodland pattern

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>>34674037
I believe he called Sweden Shitbuckistan

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>>34654233
That's fucking gold. I wish I had seen your reply yesterday, it would have brightened my shitshow.

NWU III are pretty slick as far as I'm concerned. Maybe that's just because they're not NWU I though.

>>34651589
A BRIGHT RED COAT, FUCK HIDING YOU GODDAMN SAVAGES

*sips*

>>34674183
Well now I feel dumb.

>>34665635
orly?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M84_camouflage_pattern
scroll down and look at the variants

Tacgear copied it and produced a commercial version

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>>34651773
mexican naval infantry uses that uniform

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>>34674524
(cont)
Forgot to add - look at the list of "Other users"
>France: Special Forces uses the snow version.
Whioch brings us back to the 13e Régiment de Dragons Parachutistes, 13e RDP

Pic is one I modded in Paint to show how much better it would be with printed balaclavas

>>34652664
likes like (semigood) modern art

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>>34674524
>>34674554
german > danish

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>>34651589
Seriously no love for JGSDF camo? Stuff works pretty amazing imo. Superior coloration than flecktarn which is too dark for most places.

>>34674100
Because they need/want "new" and want to look more "modern". I've noticed this is the reason why a lot of militaries replaced camo even though a current or now previous pattern worked really well. Gotta be /fa/ bruh.

>>34674790
It's almost as if different regions need different camouflages.

>>34659409
The hunting patterns are super specific to terrain, time of year and time of day. They usually only match up well like in your pic for a few hours a year total.

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>>34674869
>Because they need/want "new" and want to look more "modern"
the new pattern doesn't look new and modern at all

and they haven't get rid of that navy blue camo

>>34671724
The colour variant on the jacket = my alltime favourite. I was always looking for these during my service but never got issued any and the two guys who once got a jacket like that didn´t want to trade with me :(

>>34675051
And they aren't even that good if you're moving.

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>>34673159

>>34674993
Flecktarn is hyped up all the time, and it's cousin which is less region specific and works in more places doesn't get mentioned.
>>34675113
Seems like some branch specific vanity camo like the navy and plan marines. Also no one said it had to be effective.

>>34676419
How do you plan on justifying your claim that niptarn works in more places?

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>>34674100
Nigga i didnt say anything about replacing, that lime-woodland pattern is still in service.

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>>34654596

Nature's figured that shit out hundreds and thousands of years ago.

If you want to find out what good camo looks like, just look for anything that gets hunted by raptors and other birds. They have better vision than we do, see in color, and hunt in the same environments we're trying to stay hidden in. The key to good camo isn't some stupid fucking computer "dot" design, it's simply looking at what nature has already made that works.

Pic related: fence lizards get hunted by everything, and yet they're all over the place in the east. Snakes, like rattlers and Fer De Lance, are both prime game for raptors like red tail hawks when they're young. There's countless examples in nature to choose from that are all better than the shit any given military uses.

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how do you all like this picture of an australian tree

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>>34651673

>>34678712
>some stupid fucking computer "dot" design
A reptile's scales are basically pixels, if you think about it.

>>34678712
https://www.toadaflage.com/shop/

Camo based on toads. But you're right, no animal in nature that is camouflaged uses the color green for some reason, just varying shades of brown. This is likely due to camo patterns having to hide someone in the woods while also standing out on the clothing rack.

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>>34681057
>no animal in nature that is camouflaged uses the color green for some reason, just varying shades of brown.

Nah, there's a bunch of critters that use green of various shades as camo.

Pic related.

in all honesty I never understood why navies adopt any camo (I'm looking at you, US and China)

if the guy goes overboard, you'll have a worse time trying to identify him.

the camo stands out in front of the grey color of the ship

plz explain

>>34681442
>uses green as camo
>pic related shows animals that use bright colors to show potential predators that they are venomous, the exact opposite or camouflage

>>34675262


the trick is being a staff sgt and bribing the laundry ladies with chocolate.

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>>34681466
>thinks leopard frogs are venomous

>>34674993
>>It's almost as if different regions need different camouflages.

Well, that`s the idea. All militaries around the world trying to develop a camo, most usefull on their own soil... Save for US of A. Well, you can continue the thought.

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best korea has some good stuff these days

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>>34681057

Here's another of the same species.

>>34681571
>tfw no 2/10 nork gf

>>34653808
Pretty sure both were made by the same dude, but he wanted a fuckload of money for royalties for what US4CES is based on, so the army said fuck off, did a few tweaks and rolled out the patterns they'll be using now.

He also wanted to jew the government on the multicam royalties, or we probably keep using that since it seems to work pretty well.

>>34678397
you don't know that they just introduced a new pattern this year

>>34651734
severely underrated for basically 5-6 months out of the year in just about any appalachian forest. and even after spring when some green returns

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ukrainian varan camo (right)

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>>34681057
Well shit, not surprised though

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I'm a massive fan of the new AMCU
Auscam was great but AMCU did a damn good job of stepping up to the mark
Once this shit gets a little dirty its fucking amazing

What do you think is the best camo for california?

>>34682312
A fake tan, a bikini, and bleached hair.

>>34682413
noted

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>>34651673

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>>34654596
>Bunny
every fucking time

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Leaves and shit from around where you're at.

>>34676419
Personal experience with both. Simply checking out places with your own eyes and realizing that the colors of jgsdf's camo match more green places unlike flecktarn which is suited for a dark forest like those in Germany. Realization that it's easier for a lighter color to get darker than for a darker color to get lighter to match your environment.

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Don't now about effective but aesthetically pleasing and gives me tight pant groupings.

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>>34654596

>>34674753
Not with the modern shit as you show...

Now the old snowcamo on the other hand...

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M05 without a doubt.

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>>34682312

Definitely Yosemite toad.

>>34682090
is there anywhere you can buy amcu?

>>34682312
depends where you are, california is pretty diverse

>>34685182
PepeCam / 10
>>34683373
Bunny looks most natural in the environment.
>>34663600
always worked fine in Germany
>>34651589
> most effective
> multi terrain
choose one

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>>34685924

Frog vs. multi-cam

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MARPAT vs. woodland fence lizard

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>>34651673

>>34651734
>>34652124
>>34652561
>>34652548
For shits/giggles/science, does anyone have any picture or videos of alpenflage in desert/scrubland/hill-country?

>>34652548
French is more versatile than DPM or Jigsaw.
It's like US woodland but more earth toned.

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>>34679078
those are some fucked up teeth

Gents,
Does any uniform camouflage use counter shading?

In most images of soldiers standing they seem to be kinda skylined against the lighter background. Would it make sense to have the helmet be a lighter shade progressively getting darker to the pant legs? Doesn't have to be an insane gradient but at least some? Also, would having the armpit/knee/crotch area a bit lighter also counter shadows in those areas?

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>>34685182
>>34686864
>>34687055

i see what you're tying to do but that's not a good way to see how effective camo is. it's more than just pattern and color, you have to see how light and perspective work against it.

you might like pencott greenzone, i think it takes some ideas from natural camouflage and does a pretty good job

>>34688508
Is that the camo that was very effective when it was covered by a fallen tree trunk?

>>34661352
>Hunting in military cammo is mostly as stupid, as going to war in hunters cammo.

US Navy SEALs have been using "Mossy Oak" civvie hunting pattern BDUs and web gear for 10+ years now, for environments where it is useful.

https://geardoshit.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/civvy-hunting-camo-in-afghanistan/

There's nothing magical about a camouflage pattern that makes it "only for fooling deer" or "only for fooling people."

Crypsis, mimesis, disruption. Hide from sight by imitating commonplace things in the environment, or by breaking up the distinctive outline with contrasting colors--or both at once.

>>34687433
French "CCE" is basically US M81 Woodland roughly doubled in all dimensions, to break up outlines at greater distances, with larger black patches.

>>34687819
No. Imagine one soldier standing up and another one prone beside him and you'll immediately understand why.

>>34657025
>I'm not sure anyone would want to wear it

I like it.

Is it in production?

>>34688984
not really
http://www.hyperstealth.com/CUEPAT/index.html

>>34688508
>squint and blur vision
>suddenly can't see his outline
>suddenly can see his face
Spoopy.

>>34681466
Are you fucking retarded?

>>34651958
>>34652351
Okay come on now clearly Australians just wanted an excuse to draw a bunch of dicks on their uniforms and call it "camo."

>>34688508

I'm just fucking around, dude.

Regardless, who are we to argue with millions of years of evolution?

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alpenstripe

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>>34651589
ASAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyQB65ig5PQ

>>34689509
You know us... wherever we are we must also shitpost

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>>34651673

>>34681483
>>34689387
I think he tried to explain it the wrong way.
There are animals that use warn colors like green or orange to scare off potential predators. If the bluff or not is another story.

>>34681946
pic or didnt happen

>>34689509
We're replacing our beloved rabbit, jelly bean and dick shapes with the standard multicam pattern in the Auscam colours.

God save us all.

>>34652446
Daily reminder than ucp is the same set of colors found on u.s. legal tender, a sick practical joke played on the Army to consecrate the fact that the only mission being accomplished is the artificial inflation of the military industrial complex.

>>34691129
i am sold

>>34687439
Is this pic taken in France?

>>34657025
If it stops you being fucking shot at, people will want to wear it.

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nobody wants to see an undesirable

>>34651673
Wow that is soooo a funny joke :) soooooooooooo funny

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>>34651589
Background blending camo is for COWARDS.

The most effective camo is made of flamboyant aesthetic colors, in order to lower the enemy morale and drive them from the field with your bravery and fashion sense.

>>34691419
have you ever seen a chameleon or a normal-ass tree frog? have you ever left your moms basement? are you also a fucking retard?

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Why so militaries, especially the American military, switch up its camo multiple times every decade and not just keep what actually works?

The current army one is a total God damn mess, a downgrade from what they had before. Why was it changed when the old one was good?

Pic related, it's fucking terrible

>>34688964
M81 tones are darker

WOODLAND
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>>34692834
ucp works in some places. as a universal camo its dumb though

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>>34693184
gravel pits and your grandma's couch, mainly

>>34652637
die gute alte Fleisch Lafette

>>34692182
Could be.

>>34692834

The current Army one is scorpion 2, which is multicam by another name as far as I know.

They fucked up with OCP but they're going back to a regular, not-shit camo already.

Any ideas for good camo for Georgia (the state) woodlands. I'm not sure ill be able to tell until i buy it. Wondering if anyone had experience/expertise before i buy

>>34651589
being black

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Swedish army m90 camo

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>>34694472
>Swedish army m90 camo

That's not bad.

>>34691129
I have a set of that for my innawoods clothes. Its freaking amazing, just wish they made tacgear too.

>>34694232
>>34687439
>>34694813
Source of original pic, please?

>>34695029
No clue.

I think I just typed "woodlands" into google and picked one.

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>>34651589

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>>34688508

That's not bad either.

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How come the US Marines are the only branch of the US military that doesn't have shitty camo?

>>34694472
I too want to look like a pitch black silhouette moving through the woods.

>>34696183
You forgot the Navy's AOR2. That stuff is amazing in woodland environments.

>>34696183
Because for some reason DOD is retarded and lets different branches have autonomy on stuff like this. So when USMC took the CADPAT and changed the colors, the army said "hey cool send us the pattern so we can use it too!" Then USMC sperged out and said it was their copyrighted design and said no one else can use it.