Is it physically possible to build a super carrier like this?

>>34650810
If you have underage slave labor like that, yes.

>>34650810
Yes

this show was so fucking dumb it's off the charts

>>34650810
what is this from

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A better question would be if someone has ever calculated the maximum allowable mass of something man made that could still be seaworthy in earths gravity

>>34650872
boku no panzer

I was kind of bummed how they never really explained the backstory of why the school ships exist.

I thought the Giant School Boats, the fact that WW2 Tanks are used in recreational sports for children (While modern tanks apparently still exist for adults) and why there are so few men in the show might get tied into some sort of dark backstory like Kemono Friends or something, but it was kind kind of left there.

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>>34650924
Sora No Woto also eludes to a dark past more heavily, but they still dont flesh it out well enough

>>34650924
They explain it in the OVA but don't expect too much, it's just an excuse to have giant carriers and school girls tank battle.

>>34650872
Some chinese cartoon about underage girls that appeals to neckbeards.

>>34650924
Sometimes I think those japs look at old ablibs to shit together an anime story.

>>34650810
Would the benefits outweigh the cost and risks associated with making a giant metal island that could potentially be devastated by a storm or some type of mechanical failure?

>>34651232
>benefits
?????????

>>34650810
yes but at that point you might as well be building stuff like that in space

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largest I've ever heard of was the hypothetical pkyrete carrier

>>34650810
Not with current technology, no.

See: >>34650851

For reference on how fuckhuge the ship is, a Ford-class carrier is about 340m long, which would make the academy ship about 21 times longer. Make of that what you will.

>>34650810
>entire town on a boat, complete with mountains and suburbs
What the fuck do you think, op?

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>>34650938
uncanny

Thats a shit ton of water displacement...

>>34650843
muh tank drifting tho

>>34651292
With a giant metal island might just be able to outrun a nuclear attack, so you could have a mobile comfy survival bunker for thousands of people ready to go at all times in case of total MAD. Or if the old man in the sky decides to do Great Flood 2.0. Then they can live forever roaming the seas and remote islands until everything calms down again.

>>34651372
Length is one thing, width is a whole other ball game. That's Ooarai's relatively small ship and it's a kilometer long from port to starboard. How does it not just split apart down the middle? Is it physically possible for water on both sides to keep the thing together?

>>34651320
>Girls und Weltraum Panzer

>>34650878
well, there would have to be a maximum allowable volume for that question, and then a minimun allowable density. theoretically speaking, since buoyancy is a matter of whether it's too dense to displace its mass in watter before displacing its volume in water, we'd have to see.

>>34651542
You'd be surprised the penetration you can get when doing arc welding. A thing you MIGHT try to look up is called a groove weld. basically you can create a grove as large as you want, a gap between two pieces of metal, install a backing plate to retain the puddle, and then you can fill it with as many welds as you need. Then buff it out. granted those grooves would be HUGE and require shitloads of electrodes, but it'd work, and I'm sure such a thing has at one point been done before. The REALLY dangerous work would be doing this under water.

>>34650810
Jesus christ why must anime be such dogshit?

I watched the first episode of Girls und Panzer and it was probably one of the worst shows I've watched in my life.

>>34651675
The CG is recorded at a painfully low FPS in the first episode for whatever unknown reason. The girls and tanks get cuter as the episodes progress, so keep watching.

>>34651683
>The girls and tanks get cuter as the episodes progress, so keep watching.
That's turning me away from it even more.

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>>34651688
from Pravda with love

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girls und panzer is pure kino

>>34651660
At that point you might as well automate your welding. Even with the presumably extreme thickness of the Hull, you'd have to take breaks in between work to ensure there's no warping or soft spots due to overheating and cooling, in addition to making sure everything even and filled across all 5(?) Kilometer of the ship. Plus the amount of time that would be required is just obscene. You'd waste so much time and money on manpower, electrodes, and material, it wouldn't be worth the output.

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>>34651675
watch strike witches
aces of the ww2 shown as girls flying some kind of high boots with propellers. they sometimes sprout out animal ears and tails too. oh, the girls in that world wear no skirt nor pants, they all walk around in panties

iirc at least one of those aces was alive when the show was aired i just wonder what he would say, lol

>>34651688
What are you, gay?

>>34651660

Underwater welding is a job noone should do. It's INSANELY taxing and results in people being crippled 9/10.

Unfortunately someone has to do it until someone makes a welding robot to do the job.

>>34651710
Strike Witches is shit. Like unapologetic shit.

Girls Und Panzer has actual on model tanks.
Strike witches just has magical plane girls with pantsu and lolis.

This isn't /a/. Take your unrelated shit elsewhere.

>>34651710
>>34651736
Watch the Saga of the Murder Loli

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>>34651352
Project Habakuk!

Apart from general insanity, is there any reason why it wouldn't have worked?

>>34651660
hence drydocks

>>34651736
glad I'm not the only one. It's never looked even remotely appealing to me. I just don't get it.

>>34650851
>250 m draft
it can't sail anywhere near the coast

>>34651833
Not really. Like many over-the-top ideas, it's a low benefit-to-cost ratio that killed it, not physical impossibility.

>>34652195
Yep, the entire continental shelf is off-limits.

>>34650810
Would make more sense building smaller carrier's with each one representing a district to form a mobile city.

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>>34652189
not liking catgirls and aviation... and panties. ew

>>34651833
>s there any reason why it wouldn't have worked?
Quite a few.
First, cost. Initial estimates put the price for the hull alone to be four time that of a Illustrious class carrier. That's excluding the bases that would need to be built in the arctic in the first place.
Second, any torpedo hit would doom the ship due to sea water melting the hull around the impact zone. And real damage would cut the cooling pipes leading to the same fate.
It was to large to enter dry dock for repair or hull scraping, meaning that it would be essentially unsteerable after ~1 year of sea growth.
And finally it was found that it would take upwards of seven years to construct.

>>34650835
india should do this

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>>34652233
Anime is fucking trash

>>34652259
Designated shitting slaves?

>>34651728
I'm the anon you replied to, I don't understand why (besides crushing, delta p and bends hazzards) that it would be so dangerous as to cripple 9/10 as you put it. If you'd be so kind as to explain to me, that'd be much appreciated.
>>34651706
What, you think you use the same electrode all the way through? Maybe, I don't know shit about it besides that it's arc welding underwater and I can recognize some of it, but I assume there'd be bigger, higher amperage electrodes to cut down fill time... though the slag chipping is going to be a fucking MINING OPERATION at that point, vut if you're bitching about cost on construction, wait till you get to the part where it's got a whole city, and it needs to be propelled... and supplied. I can'T BEGIN to imagine what it looks like below deck. I mean... that's basically an upscaled Akagi, so the hull MUST BE fucking extremely huge.
>>34651925
that's not gonna work too well with a ship that size... I presume... in any case, that's no fun, then you only have regular boring old vertical welding... for like a fucking mile to the keel of the ship... and then some overhead welding too. At least the puddle cools a little faster with underwater, since it has such a better medium to radiate heat into, thus eliminating some of the challenges inherent to uphill,and downhill vertical welds, as well as overhead and horizontal... now if only it didn't introduce all these OTHER issues, but from what I'd heard, the biggest hazzard is getting crushed.

>>34650878
Build the whole thing out of titanium and graphene

>>34651710
I think he was recorded as saying "Oh... that's cool, I guess." -Chuck Yeager

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>>34651206
You could probably adlib a better anime than half the shit they're currently releasing.

>>34651742
Battleloli is the best new release this year.

>>34650810
Technically speaking, that's not a carrier, that's a liner.

>>34652328
It's a collection of modular blocks below deck. Some blocks did not line up with each other during construction so there are several dead ends with sealed module bulkheads. Having everyone live on the deck helps with getting where you need to go because the modules always have a route to the surface.

At least one specialized module was seen and it was a large freshwater fish farm.

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>>34652349
Oh... Hmmm. Interesting. Another thing comes to mind... WHAT ARE THEY PROPELLING THAT THING WITH?

>>34650810
That is the most retardedly impractical thing I have ever seen. Why does anime have to be so fucking stupid sometimes?

>>34652233
I would like them in a universe that makes some resemblance of fucking sense. Like catgirls flying planes or something. The magic-flying-transforming-airplane-girl thing is so retarded that I can't even begin watching the show.

>>34652427
>everything must be serious hard sci-fi because I have no idea how to have fun

>>34652177
It hurts so much to see the Surcouf. If only you damned yankees could have controlled your planes, we would have had a submarine/carrier/battleship (plagued by problems, but still) for a little longer!

>>34652480
Serious hard sci-fi can be fun with huge ships too anon. Rama was great.

>>34652526
Rule of cool. I can enjoy shit like giant mechs and floating cities because those are cool and I would rather watch something cool over something perfectly sensible.

>>34652290
Whats that?
It looks pretty fucking awesome.

>>34650810
Physically possible, I guess maybe, but it would probably bankrupt the whole world.

>>34652727
Stuff like that is easier to enjoy if it's actually explained, though, otherwise I've got this angry little voice in the back of my head asking how the fuck any of the ridiculous stuff is justifiable.

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>>34650878
Found it

>>34650810
>without the decorative mountains
>and with the deck height lowered
>and with a cold fusion reactor
Yes.

>>34651660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNbQH8XBgxQ
Maybe Friction Stir at that point?

>>34652789
Crazy metallurgy? Magic floating foam? Magnets?

Does it really matter when the answer would be retarded pseudoscience any way? I actually prefer there not be an answer for something this goofy because I feel more annoyed when they insult my intelligence with a shit answer rather than none at all.

>>34653038
god damn it's just smearing it into a solid material.

>>34651642
>there would have to be a maximum allowable volume for that question,
which is constrained by material strength

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>>34650810

depending on how fast that thing moves....can you imagine how much water displacement it would create?

the power consumption too. wow.

>>34652760
That's MiG-21bis from DCS

>>34650810
For what purpose?

>>34654421
compensate

largest ship ever built was the Seawise Giant. 458 meters long and a 25m fully laden draft.

she took 6 miles to stop and a 3 miles turning cirlce, in calm seas.she couldn't use the panama canal, the suez canal, or even go through the english channel.

if such a monstrosity like the ships in girls und panzer could be built. they would be trapped in which ever ocean they were built in. constantly moving to be in the calmest seas possible.

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>>34654578
:)

>>34650810
With enough money and resources sure
But the thing would be a nightmare to maintain and repair/keep afloat

>>34654578
>constantly moving
only because it would take larger than the diameter of the ocean to stop

>>34652789
I see this so often it gets me sick.
I can only assume the only genre you ever watch are cooking contests?

Portraying our world differently is the whole point of cinematography. It's what separates you running around filming the street with your smartphone from a film-maker.

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>>34650810
Is this what the Belkans are reduced to now?

Consider that ships, generally speaking, have a time span they're expected to live out before the costs of maintenance start to become too great. Stress on engines, stress on hull, tearing, corrosion, yadda yadda.
During this time, the people who comission the ship want to earn back what they invested into getting it made, and then turn a pretty profit. The only exception I can think of would be military ships, which in turn are needed for defense or power projection. The question that then begs asking is "what profit is there to be made by putting a bunch of cute autistic tank girls on this big expensive boat?".
The largest ships I can think of at the top of my head are the Seawise Giant and the Batillus class supertankers, with the biggest Maersk container ships not too far behind them. You'd want something even bigger than that, and so we get into challenging country:
The Seawise Giant, going at full speed, could make 16.5 knots on a good day with clear sea, wind in the back, right currents and the captain's fiancee waiting to wed him when they get to where they're going. It takes over nine kilometres to stop the ship at that speed. Forget manouvreing in and out of port entirely, you'd need an armada of tugboats for that.
On the topic of ports, a lot of them would be closed to you solely on account of the immense beam and draught of the ship. You'd most likely need to anchor up (far) outside of cities and get tenders to ferry people ashore.
This is, of course, provided you can make it in the first place. Making it would be a tour de force of shipbuilding, considering:

(cont.)

>>34654984
>Stability
As you can see, there is a whole lot of stuff (a small city's worth, to be exact) on the "flight deck", if you will. This is heavy, and if the ship were to start rocking to the side, it might not recover before taking on water, at which point it's game over (BAD END). To counteract this, you'd need more weight under the ship's center of gravity. No doubt you could begin to fit in massive reactors and stores of what a city needs to run, but this would also be heavy. Many heavy things lead to a great draught, with its associated problems (see above).
>Propulsion
Once we've sorted the problem with stability, the need for some form of propulsion to move this behemoth presents itself. I know fuck all about ship's engines, so I'll leave this for the dieselbugs to discuss, but taking a wild guess, we might want some rad roaches to weigh in on it too.
>Shear forces
Ever seen a supertanker out in bad weather? The forces of the sea makes the ship turn and twist. This massive ship would also be susceptible to that. Big ship, big shear forces.

tl;dr
>Is it doable
I dunno lol
>Will it ever be done
Sadly not very likely.

>>34650878
I hear they're trying their hardest to invent new numbers to measure your mom's mass.

>>34654607
A ten mile pier dock
dozens if not hundreds if meters deep to hold the ship
And if I temember it correctly, its all a fucking girls high school? Which has competitive tank clubs

This anime makes me upset, the premise is so fucking dumb and whats with Japan and highscools?!

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>>34655076
>the premise is so fucking dumb and whats with Japan and highscools?!

>>34654697
in fact theres non diference between the guy with a phone and the director. there are lot of director with phones doin good jobs and a lots with high cost equipment doin shit

>>34655076
It's also completely run by students who learn the Naval trade and do their work instead of having to pay tuition like the General Studies students.

>>34655199
How long until we get to see WW2 Poco Sama Super Kawaii Holocaust High School?

The short-skirted pajama concentration school girls all fued over getting attention from student council uberfuhrer while manufacturing metal helmets for the highschool camp war club competition

>>34655076
>This anime makes me upset, the premise is so fucking dumb and whats with Japan and highscools?!

The premise is a world where being a tank geek is not only acceptable, but honorable.
Your school is represented by a tank team instead of shitty sports.
And you get the option to work with tanks as your after-school activity instead of making ikebana.

It's a gearhead's fantasy. You're either into mecha or you simply won't get it. That's all there is to it.

>Why is it always schoolgirls.
Schoolgirls have standardized clothing which makes them easy to draw. Said clothing fits anything from social occasions (going out with friends) to war scenarios (since they're literally European navy uniforms), so they're perfectly universal to boot.

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>>34655352
>How long until we get to see WW2 Poco Sama Super Kawaii Holocaust High School?
You are a true visionary and a man of supremely excellent taste, and I commend you for it.

>>34653038
quality porn. thanks mate

>>34652339
Absolute fucking garbage. Literally mary sue adventures for guro enthusiasts, except all the violence happens offscree, no all you get is undiluted sociopathy.

>>34655909
I dont like the way they draw the characters, I thinks its the lips and eyes. They look like fish people.

>>34655963
Supposedly it was done so people don't waifu the main character because they wanted the sociopathy to shine out more, in which case the failed about as hard as Anno did when he wanted to make TEH REI unlikeable by giving her blue hair and red eyes.

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>>34654289
>Girls und panzer but with scorpion tanks and wraiths piloted by hot headed elite lolis
fund it.

>>34653038
FSW doesn't work too well for steel.

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>>34651320
>might as well be building stuff like that in space

>>34651542
>Welttraum Panzer

O-O'Neill Cylinder Schools when? I've fantasized about this for a long while before. Instead of mock tank battles they would have mock space battles. Each school would have its own kind of station at a different point around the earth or mars or something.

Schools like Pravda would be in a big O'Neill cylinder that looks like Polyus, while Saunders would be in what looks like a very large Skylab or manned orbital laboratory.

In the last fight, instead of having to fight the Maus of The German team, SpaceOorai would have to fight Saunders and their 4,000 ton orion battleship

>>34655980
Heheh, they really thought that was all it took?

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>>34656064
Girls und Gundam is that way, anon.

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>>34656064
An O'Neill cylinder would probably be easier and cheaper to build than the giant carrier anyway.

>>34655076
>whats with Japan and highscools

Japanese society is so repressive and overbearing in all aspects (very long work weeks, extreme emphasis on formality and conformism, a literal police state, etc) that most forms of escapism are simply nostalgia for a earlier, stress free time, such as childhood and adolescence.

>>34650924
>why there are so few men in the show

Tankery is a feminine art, suitable only for women.

'cuz beta japs would spend a lot more money on branded products if they were cute girls doing cute things instead of manly men doing manly war things. It just sells better. Mangos get licensed for anime to turn a profit, not to do social work.

It works though, doesn't it? You just can't help but cheer for those fucking retards in their garbage can surplus.

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>>34656112
Your girls are trash.

>>34650810
does it break any laws of physics? No.
does it make any fucking sense in any situation? No.
Are you a retard? Yes.

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>>34655980

>>34651675
A good rule of thumb is if 65% or more of the cast is female it's otaku-pandering trash and can be freely disregarded.
There's a few exceptions but they're of little interest to the casual consumer

>>34651675
You'd love Strike Witches, then!

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>>34656161

>>34656130
>nostalgia for a earlier, stress free time, such as childhood and adolescence.

I see even /k/ has local OtakuXxXNihon-dono experts.
This meme needs to stop. If you think their work is in any way, shape, or form repressive or overbearing, then you should buckle up because it's an absolute cakewalk compared to what they put their kids through.

>>34656373
Ok, I should have put "relatively stress free".

Japanese school is far more stressful than the West, but still more free than the average Nip salary man that are so overworked that medical professionals have identified and labeled a type of circulatory disease brought on by their working conditions.

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>>34656132
Those silly Japs are missing out on a whole market of people who are into schoolgirl (male) cast members.

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>>34656851
You're forgetting the part where they are the ones who introduced people to the idea of traps long before any real ones appeared IRL.
And futas. And extreme cross-dressing.
And just looking like girls in general from time to time.

Like this guy. No hormones, no female clothing, nothing aside from letting his hair grow a little bit.

>>34657003
If you seriously think that guy isn't wearing a skirt outside the screen you're gullible as hell.

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>>34656851
>he thinks that everyone shares his faggot fetishes just because he talks to other loud autists online
>he thinks his faggot fetishes are profitable

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>>34658568
>thinking they aren't

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>>34657003
You're kinda far north there mate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQEizl7lGhc

>>34656132
I meant that even the supporting cast doesn't have many males. I thought it would tie into something.

>>34655396
>Schoolgirls have standardized clothing which makes them easy to draw.
plus they're easier to jack off to than telly savalas or shia lebouef

>>34652760

Its not as cool as you think.

Flight Simulators are more work than they're worth. Might as well play Ace Combat.

>>34652290
does it have a simple collimator sight like in ww2 without any means of automatic lead computation or at least range estimation, those existed since the ww2 too

>>34659159
you can always find a middle ground between a completely unrealistic arcade and the full 500 pages manual autism

>>34659191

Like what. War Thunder?

>>34659277
maybe. or il-2 etc

>>34659325

IL-2 is even worse than DCS though.

Having to constantly adjust trim, super chargers stages and blah blah.

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>>34652290
Lol

>>34654607
I like to imagine that it's actually sitting on some gigantic underwater crawlers that pull it into dock rather than trying to float in by itself.

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>>34659334
>waaah its too harrrrd even though it doesn't even use half the keyboard waaaahh

>>34654607
out of curiosity which port in the world can take ships with 250m draft

>>34659334
>Having to constantly adjust trim, super chargers stages and blah blah.

You don't know what your doing, at all.

>>34659426
the one built for the township that drivea around japanese schoolgirls manning world war ii tanks so they can fight ww2 tank schoolgirls from other countries

>>34654289
That ship's interior engineering would be insane. A hellscape that has become its own city under a city, full of greasy disgusting people who have given up on life.

>>34659499
>full of greasy disgusting people who have given up on life.
the show's fans get to live on the ship?

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Is it physically possible to build a flying carrier like this?

>>34650938
>Sora No Woto
Alright fucker, I need all the military themed cute girls doing cute things anime you know of right fucking now.

>>34659586
>reading about that show
>"sum girl wanted to play trumpet so she joined army"
>wut

>>34654289
>>34656046
>elite
>human warship
wut

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>>34650810
2 words

CRABON NANO TUBES

>>34651675
Newest anime I've enjoyed was Space Dandy. I'm positive that makes me a casual but the guy behind it always does great work and it's full of crazy, scenic, and relateable stories and scenes. Unlike 80% of every season of anime where it's yuri bait or cute-girls-doing-cute-things-totally-straight bait

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>>34659641
Well obviously they have their own ship.

>>34659334
>having to trim your aircraft is too much for me
I think ace combat is more your speed, sport.

>>34659334
trim is fucking ez and i use to fly without doing it

>>34659618
Don't care, I need more girls und panzer tier animus. Its just the right kind of retarded to tingle my jingles.

>>34659791
Space Dandy was lolaorandumb bullshit made for the Toonami audience.

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>>34650835
This is what we could achieve

>>34659455
All of the academy ships are Japanese. They're just themed with a different foreign culture each except for the protagonist's ship of course.

>>34659540
with enough thrust, anything can fly.

you just have to engineer the wings to not snap off the second it tries to take off, or even under the strain of sitting.

>>34652480
It bothers me that they need that much ship just to support that proportionately tiny bit of land on top. What the fuck is the rest of the ship used for?

>>34660573

>>34652349

Also it is big enough to lose track of entire tanks hidden within their internal store rooms behind assorted junk and boxes of old paperwork. I assume that they transport a ridiculous amounts of goods from port to port, equivalent to a hundred super freighters combined in a single journey.

>>34650810

Get that reatrded MOE shit out of here. Modern anime is hot fucking garbage.

>>34650810
Why does Japan dream up such ridiculous shit? Is it the radiation?

>>34659791
Space Dandy had a chance to be something good and fun, instead I turned off after 4 episodes because the total lack of continuity meant that any risks taken or negative consequences from certain actions had no real impact.

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>>34660743
The people behind these things have an imagination, something that even functional autists like you completely lack.

>>34661734
It's not the difference in imagination and creativity between the two schools of storytelling, its a difference in philosophy (or lack thereof).

The Nippon school of animu and VN writing says "Susupenshion offu dissubeliefu? Za forrh warru? わかりませんですwwww". Because of this many Japanese writers have little to no inhibitions to writing extremely fantastical settings with no regard paid to whether it could actually "work in real life" or not. The sole requirement is that the setting is fun or allows for fun stories to be told. It is ironic that the most common complaint directed towards their writing is that many main characters are blank slates who are meant to be self-insert vehicles for the audience; might be hard to self-insert for some people who can't get over the fact that the setting violates every law of common sense.

Of course when they really want to be realistic or psuedorealistic, they can also get very autistic and authentic about it.

>>34655396
>Into Mecha
But threadheads are usually the first to have an anuerism over getting BTFO by mecha and are likewise willing to overlook wild impracticality (Mammoth Tanks, Bolos, the Ratte, ect.) over rule of cool, as well as have to constantly justify themselves to other mil' folk who thing they're obsolete. They might overlap at times, but they're certainly not one of the same.

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>>34661734
>The people behind these things have an imagination

>Extrapolating simple shit ad absurdum is what passes off for IMAGINATION these days

Swap highschool sports for tank battles! Oh, and put everything on oversized carriers where only the top deck is ever used!

>>34661788
>The sole requirement is that the setting is fun or allows for fun stories to be told.

You know, like all popular media.
Star Wars or Star Trek are utter bullshit for very much the same reason but people still watch and enjoy them. Famously a lot of well educated people on the latter side as well.

The best crime novelists like Agatha Christie? She also wrote bullshit. Specifically making up events that she never mentions to act as the evidence in the end. Her books are so popular and successful because you're in for the ride and ride alone.

Action movies with cars exploding when you hit them, attack helicopters flying right over you to deal with you, the tons of apocalypse stories and post-apocalypse stories. And that's completely disregarding genres like fantasy which have a specific (tiny) genre for those that actually involve any thought put into the setting, but also involve surrealist works.

>>34661844
>Star Wars or Star Trek are utter bullshit for very much the same reason but people still watch and enjoy them.

Except these still attempt to employ some pseudo science and arbitrary artistic reason in order for resulting setting having some degree of relatability.

Just because all fictional mediums basically 'make shit up', doesn't mean that any brand of fictional content will work to captivate audience.

>>34656161
good luck lil duck

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>>34661804
You seem to have misinterpreted that one.
You can't be a threadhead and not be into mecha. Being a threadhead is literally being into mecha.

Mecha is a catch-all for people who have boner for machines. Be it threadheads, railfags, spaceship dreamers, robot wankers, petrolheads, aviation enthusiasts...

>>34652800

Oh boogie, I love and hate your fat ass.

>>34661867
>Mecha is a catch-all for people who have boner for machines

Not any more it ain't. You're getting knowing where the word came from mixed up with knowing what it actually really means.

>>34661855
>Except these still attempt to employ some pseudo science and arbitrary artistic reason in order for resulting setting having some degree of relatability.

You're saying that as if GuP did not. For that matter, they used much less handwavium than either of those two sci-fi franchises.

They explained why they use the carriers. Why the sport is as it is. Why it's done by women and not men. How come they don't die when hit.

They don't explain why the carriers have to be so huge, but Star Wars never fucked around explaining how people gained magic powers, how did their own ships large enough for it to take months to get from one end to the other work or how did they make several superweapons the size of the fucking Moon without the whole thing just collapsing in on itself, to say nothing of gathering all that material. Star Trek, likewise, has a fuckload of things like this.

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>>34661788

the main difference between kafka's storytelling and any sf/fantasy storytelling (g&p's plot falls there) in its core is the difference between the real literature and genre fiction. genre fiction is plot driven and uses a certain number of genre defining patterns. the difference between media is important too because movies/anime have a limited ability to provide any "inner speech" either of the characters or of the storyteller/author on the cost of them being able to use flashy visual effects. not like japs didn't try to, say, make an anime adaptation of kafka, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDjmW-gIsKs where they try to demonstrate "kafkaesqueness" of the story with a weird blur and stuff

and then, i don't think it needs a lot of creativity to imagine a real giant ship and then to apply the standard anime patterns/tropes to it, anime for the mass audience (unlike some artsy anime like the aforementioned country doctor) is very repetitive in its successful tropes (it costs a lot of money to produce it after all so they are not willing to risk)

making blank characters for self inserting isn't something which needs a lot of imagination too, neither on the side of the authors nor on the side of the audience; as for violating the "common sense", liking it is just a matter of taste which doesn't need some additional imagination too. the west has such stuff as battletech/mechwarrior franchise, or even a better example - star wars with their silly light sabers that are useful vs laser guns and can block each others "blades", also warhammer 40k etc etc

>>34661880
>Why it's done by women and not men.
men are inferior animals?

>>34655076
>whats with Japan and highscools?!

Japanese culture is extremely overbearing and puts massive amounts of pressure on individuals to succeed in school, and it gets even worse when you go to university & get a job.
High school anime is all nostalgia for these young adults in work/later university. They see high school through rose-tinted glasses that's depicted in anime, despite their actual high school experiences lacking social life depicted in anime.

If an anime were to depict a realistic high school environment, it would be a) boring as fuck and b) depressing as fuck.
Unless it's a delinquent school, there is only studying. Long school day, after-school studying, evening cram-school, then cram school on Sunday (Japanese students school week is Mon-Sat).

>>34661877
>with knowing what it actually really means.

It means all things mechanical and is still used that way. The other day, one Japanese guy came to /k/ after having been told to go here by /m/, since he looked for the board for mecha-otaku to share the technical drawings of Zero (the WW2 plane) frames he had discovered.

>>34661900
i think it's simply because those anime are mostly aimed at highschoolers

>>34656161
GOOD LUCK LITTLE DUCK

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>>34661880
>You're saying that as if GuP did not. For that matter, they used much less handwavium than either of those two sci-fi franchises.

When you try to get closer to reality as we all know it, you cannot afford to go balls-in-the-wall and pull out half-assed justification for it.

You see, people expect space-faring starships to be large given their zero-G environment and need to sustain their passengers for as long as they remain on board.

But when you make a scaled-up carrier that is somehow only used in mere fraction of its volume, people WILL point that out and groan about it. Look again at the webm in the OP. See the command deck tower? Trying to make a large carrier via merely scaling up existing ones lead do command deck being equipped with glass sheets the size of a fucking european tenement each.

>>34659618
The easiest way to learn a musical instrument is to be a signaller in the army, as the training is free, your instrument is provided, and you get paid for it. Otherwise, in universe, professional musical tutoring is only widely available at the capital IIRC.

>>34661909
You'd think so, but it isn't. Anime/Manga is extremely demographically-pigeonholed, and the high school anime/manga is almost exclusively seinen (directed at college-aged/working young adults).
It isn't as popular among Japanese teenagers because they can't relate to such a highly idealized view of high school.

>>34650843
they did the tanks pretty well at least

>>34661915
>You see, people expect space-faring starships to be large given their zero-G environment and need to sustain their passengers for as long as they remain on board.

People likewise expect aircraft carriers to be large, because they are so expensive, rare, house several times more people than the village I live in, and on top of that have a ton of planes and shit on board.

When normal people complain about GuP, they complain about the fact they're kids. Very few people get bound up by the carriers, or even know how big these things actually are supposed to be.

>But we know about carriers a lot.
We also know a lot more about spaceships and know just how utterly retarded even Star Destroyers are, let alone the Death Star. But your argument for one is that "well, people don't know much about space" while at the same time claiming "but we do know enough about carriers".

>>34651675
rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
git beck nermie

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>>34661941
honest question ... what is the problem with star destroyers? (Except hyper drive, Turbolasers, Shields)
I mean ... 1mile long metal monstrositiy should work in space. Even though i doubt the possibillity of artificial gravity
Enlighten me pls

>>34661952
artificial pseudogravity is pretty easy to make

>>34661961
oh really? how? am really intrested in that stuff. Especially the gravity always concerned me

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>>34661952
There's also their shape and shit.
However, this old /tg/ pasta is a perfect catch-all.

>>34651697
thx bOss

>>34661844
Star Trek: There are transporters and they allow people to be teleported from one spot to another. There are limitations and sometimes it breaks down and does funny things like combine people together, as is normal for most human inventions. The technology is well understood and has been refined over a century or two and you can get an engineer to fix it if something goes wrong. Exact same thing with warp engines, which were invented as a workaround to the light speed barrier which still exists as a fundamental physical law.


Gurren Lagann: All living beings have a hidden energy source called Spiral Power (because DNA is spiral shaped, get it?). The more willpower they have the more Spiral Power they generate, which is also convertible into matter if you need it to form something physical. The more you put your guts into it the larger and larger the constructs you can make; to the point that your machines can be universe sized and throws around galaxies like frisbees. Obviously this breaks lightspeed, ignoring untold amounts of friction with loose space matter and not instantly collapsing into a black hole, but who gives a toss? Also comes with a lot of flashy lights to make it look better. None of the audience knows how the hell anything works but it Just Werks™ and engineers seemingly push random buttons to make it work.

Also the Moon is actually stellar debris coagulated over an ancient space warship that has been there for a really long time but still works perfectly fine. Said warship has the capability to deal with threats that transcend space and time as a normal everyday thing. Also it pulled back the actual original Moon out from another dimension before leaving port because not having a Moon around is pretty bad for the climate. All powered by unexplained Spiral Energy of course.

>>34661965
rotation (also linear acceleration)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gravity

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>>34661965
You make the wheel design.

>>34661974
Why are you bringing TTGL into this?
It's a show based on old kids shows for the kids of yesteryear.

Do go on, compare it with Steven Universe, My Little Pony, Gravity Falls...
Comparing it with Star Trek is just plain retarded.

>>34652177
>tfw we're all shitting ourselves at what it would take to build the oarai ship but its the second smallest boat in the series

>>34661970
mmm well thats about the ridiculous big ships, i was talking about the normal imperial class destroyers. But yeah the point about the command bridge is taken. That is just "Muh iconic design"
but it's nothing that prevents from building it.
you could also move the command bridge to the second command bridge place inside the ship (emergency bridge)

>>34661976
ok thanks. only knew bout the rotation part (wouldn't work with a star destroyer obviously) the rest seems rather intresting ;)
>>34661979
yeah but that would fuck all the "muh stardestroyer looks" :D

>>34652337
keksimus maximus
that poor guy
fought in war
really fukin good at shooting shit out of the sky
years later they make an anime with you represented as a girl who doesn't wear pants
simply comprehending the levels of cringe this man must have felt is suicide inducing

>>34652367
better be a few nuclear reactors because anything else would be too fucking expensive and ineffiecient

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>>34661985
The comparison then is that one puts a bare minimum of explanation and world building in order to serve as an anchor for the story. It goes to absurd heights for the sake of dramatic escalation but there was always a proper beginning and progression.

The other is a collection of LMAO SO RANDOM events that are slapped together weekly.

When the Japanese do SO RANDOM, they sometimes get so esoteric all it gives you is a scrunched up confused face in the end (which may be the intention) and thus those sometimes becomes cult classics for their eccentricity and not simply being slapstick humor for kids.

>>34654607
better start dredging son

>>34662000
you can use rotation for a ship of any shape, you just should have rotating living decks inside, no reason to rotate the whole ship

>>34661804
>fictional bullshit tanks designed by retards who have no idea about engineering
>losing against mecha
>which are fictional bullshit vehicles designed by retards who have no idea about engineering
This is the kind of slapfight that I don't appreciate because it's retarded. If mecha were so great, someone would have built them and BTFO tanks with them. But they ain't, so nobody did. Congrats for being redundant and only cool in theory and fictional universes.

>>34662021
The ship probably runs on nuclear reactors but there are a ton of energy recycling systems integrated throughout everything. The roads for example have seismic collectors underneath that squeeze out what little energy there is to get from cars passing over and causing vibrations.

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>>34662090
is it to fight enthropy?

>>34661908
Shit anon, got a link to the thread?

>>34662078
>If mecha were so great, someone would have built them and BTFO tanks with them.
The reason being that we lack control systems to make them move properly. Every experiment into walkers technically have more than enough power to do a fair amount of work but they are so bad at actually walking that their energy efficiency drops to unusable levels and their agility is nonexistent. The problem is not in power generation nor materials science.

Upcoming neural interfaces will solve that problem completely. Once people are able to control unmanned walking robots and then eventually vehicles with the same fluidity as a living being, the infantry-like tactics and maneuvers that are supposed to give walker vehicles their special advantages will start to be developed and come into play. Until then its pure theory on mech vs anything-conventional combat at the tactical scale and the strategic scale.

>>34650810
Looks like a battlecruiser conversion.

>>34662107
> the infantry-like tactics and maneuvers that are supposed to give walker vehicles their special advantages will start to be developed and come into play

and what are these, rush and hide? tanks already have a lower profile while not havng the vulnerable trotters

>>34662107
>The problem is not in power generation nor materials science.
Yes it is, because as even any engineering student can tell you, comparing literally any actually built jointed locomotion system to one involving wheels or tracks is a staggering hilarity.

A mecha is essentially a barebones chassis with, to take the closest COTS equivalent, four excavator arms strapped to it to serve as locomotion. Now if you'd know anything about how these things are driven, you'd know that they are very vulnerable, maintenance intensive, heavy and most importantly slow.

Meanwhile, tracks. Whoopee, one driven shaft and you go 100kmh. Any limb-based locomotion I can imagine for something Abrams-sized and weighted would tear itself apart at half that speed. And would be more maintenance intensive because of all of those bearings and bushings being constantly stressed from angles they weren't designed to be stressed from. Remember: the only reason biological animals can live with their limbs is because they have self-healing capabilities that repair their joins every day. Machines can't do that. Machines need maintenance. Which means disassembling EVERYTHING. The only reason tanks get away with not doing this is because their bearings are always in-line letting stressed only in their optimal load-bearing direction. This is the adantage of engineering.

Also great job being fifty feet tall or something while TankyMcTankface is hull down and bombing you in the face with his 120mm.

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>>34661788
I personally never really cared about whether something "could work in real life" or not. A whole lot of shit that people think could work in real life like zombie apocalypse shit are (in the way they are commonly portrayed) flat out fucking impossible but your average person doesn't think too much about it as opposed to fuckhuge carriers that can't work in real life for reasons I'm not too sure of myself.

What I really hate seeing is when things don't play by the rules set in their own setting, or when the author so clearly makes the rules favor the main character in an obnoxious way to make them better than what they are going against, a lack of consistency in the universe basically. Like when some faggot mecha can do everything better than a tank with technology that can't be given to tanks because of a stupid reason (or no reason at all), or when some faggot highschooler is better than someone else who is better trained, more fit or is generally in a much better position to do whatever it is they're trying to do. This extends to settings where for the most stupid reasons teenagers are the main fighting force in a large scale conflict and the adults just sit around and to jack shit.

IMO Halo (pre 4 and 5 with that retarded Spartan IV shit) does it the way I feel it should be done. Yes you have these Spartans that are basically child soldiers who are beefed up with so much drugs they're much taller than an adult, but everything that makes them good comes with its own setbacks as well. A whole bunch of them don't even make it through alive, some of those that do are mentally unstable and can't live proper lives out of combat. On top of that they aren't even invincible in combat, many of them die because as good as they are they're fighting aliens that are just as strong as them even without the augments. So you don't have this special snowflake kid running around doing everything effortlessly, cheapening any conflict.

>>34662151
Also before anyone starts bitching that Master Chief is like that he is the exception and it is for gameplay purposes. He basically died at the ending of 3 anyway.

>>34662120
>tanks already have a lower profile
They can't change the height of their profile nor can they angle themselves to shoot around corners.

>>34662137
Meanwhile 15 feet tall Bulk McMetalMan is raining down accurate missile or cannon fire on your tanks from places you never expected them to come from, dipping and zipping behind all sorts of cover to keep you guessing where it is going to pop up next. Then the next day it put down its gun and picked up a shovel to dig some tank traps which will require special equipment to get over quickly. Then the next day it picked up some artillery and AA equipment with its buddies and hiked up to a really obscure part of its mountainous homeland to set up a big surprise.

Then because Logistics dropped the standard earth mover utility vehicles from their inventory along with every other utility vehicle that can be replaced with a big metal man, the result is generally more resources spent on transporting more combat vehicles to the field. More big metal men means more flanking and more ded enemies.

This is all harder for Americans to understand because some states are literally as flat as a pancake and have zero cover for miles around. Japan is a whole other beast and they like their walkers for good reason.

Do we have to go through the same things every single time? This thread is about GuP supercarriers anyway.

>>34662106
Here's the /m/ one.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/14622486/#14622486
I think they had a link to the /k/ somewhere down there but looking for his nick should work as well (hopefully).

And yeah, it wasn't Zero.

>>34662210
Jesus anon that is almost a year ago.

Not a day ago.

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>>34662176

This is why we hate these threads, weebs.

Mech's are a dumb idea. Get over it.

>>34662176
>Bulk McMetalMan is raining down accurate missile or cannon fire on your tanks from places you never expected them to come from, dipping and zipping behind all sorts of cover to keep you guessing where it is going to pop up next.
We already have much lighter vehicles that can do the same and don't need a ridiculous imaginary locomotion system to do so. A jeep outdoes the mecha and nukes it with the exact same missiles from iles away, game over.

>Then the next day it put down its gun and picked up a shovel to dig some tank traps which will require special equipment to get over quickly.
There are engineering vehicles that do this; specialized ones that have been stripped of armor so they can be faster, burn less fuel and waste less capacities of combat. Literally the poopisite of the point you were making, because real world logistics doesn't work that way and you're lost in Big Rock Candy Mountain.

>This is all harder for Americans to understand because some states are literally as flat as a pancake and have zero cover for miles around. Japan is a whole other beast and they like their walkers for good reason.
I'm German, we operate all around the Fulda Gap and forests. Hiding in literally anything is easier when you're not upright.

You have neither any idea about engineering nor about military tactics or strategy, Neck yourself or wake up from dreamland.

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>Mechfags are here

A FUCKING MAUS

>>34650878
it had been done somewhere and yes, is possible to build things like those carriers and even bigger, some people consider that as a alternative way of building artificial islands
but gotta be expensive as fucking hell

>>34662385
before anyone asperger, Im saying THE CALCULATIONS have been done
just to make things clear

>>34654289
didnt know startrek enterprise is that small

>>34660622

see >>34650851

>250m draft
>Port

Pick one and only one. Thats almost 2x the depth of the continental shelf.

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>>34661880
>They explained why they use the carriers
>How come they don't die when hit.
What are the reasons for this and when were they mentioned? I don't remember hearing of them from my first time watching through it.

>Why it's done by women and not men.
They literally don't though, the whole "it's feminine" thing doesn't even fly in universe, since they acknowledge people like Rommel, you know a male tank commander and everytime they're seen watching military movies there's nothing but men in it. I don't particularly mind them hand waving things with "it just works, don't worry about it" so long as they don't take themselves seriously while doing it, which they don't anyway but that isn't exactly an explanation.

>>34662176
How about "meanwhile 15 feet tall Bulk McMetalMan is incapable of moving nearly as fast as the tank because he uses inefficient locomotion". It's a multi ton robot, dipping and zipping WILL NOT HAPPEN

>>34661900
>High school anime is all nostalgia
>their actual high school experiences lacking social life depicted in anime

How the fuck are they feeling nostalgia for something they didn't experience at all?

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>>34662176
>Multi-tonne anythings being agile enough for urban envrioments
>Being this retarded

Also, legs arent terribly efficient at moving lots of weight far. They're versatile and precise, but wheels and treads are the kings there, and for good reason.

On today's episode of multi-tonne armored bipedal tries to cross soft sand/ground...

>>34652195
>>34652211
Doesn't that kind of negate the ENTIRE POINT of an aircraft carrier?

>>34654289
Now I want to watch the Infinity rape the shit out of a star destroyer. How many MAC rounds do you think it would take to collapse the shields?

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>>34662104
fuck off kyubey

>>34653038

Good shit nigga.

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>>34650810
>people eat this retarded shit up
Ironic weebs were a mistake

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>>34661804
>speaking poorly of Mammoth Tanks

You watch your whore mouth!

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>>34661538
>he doesn't know about the overarching plot

>>34662493
the question was it was physically possible, no one asked how freaking stupid it was

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>>34662627
>overarching plot
sure

>>34662406
Some of the later ships are larger but it's fairly realistic in the approach that there's no practical reason for the ships to be fuckhuge just to go exploring.

>>34659704
They might even have it in-universe, they mentioned that the shells they use are real, but they´re protected by a carbon coating.

>>34662693
once they can replicate food and water, yeah, they dont need ass-huge exploratory vessels
but they are liberal yuppies, so I suppose they have to make ships comfortable, cozy and artistic looking

>>34662426

>They explained why they use the carriers
IIRC they handwaved the reason for using giant carriers as "to give students autonomy and a sense of self-direction" or something. Also, training naval studies. They mention this in an OVA.
If this seems like a weak argument, it´s because it is - the carriers were just added as fanservice, they could have easily been removed from the story and barely anything would change.

>How come they don't die when hit.
Something something security measures and carbon coating, mentioned in episode 3

>Why it's done by women and not men.
You got valid arguments there, but you underestimate the japs being werd: Tank Driving is a stand-in for archery, which too is pushed upon school girls because it teaches them female virtues or something. Infact, it´s confirmed that the german faction evolved from one of those school which taught horse archery for non-combat purposes.

>>34654607
Am I missing something, or is that mega-carrier supposed to be the property of this rather small town that also has to provide everything for it?

>>34663184
I think it's a nationalized school system, the town just acts as it's home base.

>>34663285
Still, it is one carrier with larger volume than all of vessels in USA's history put together per district.

And they say that naval superiority is hard to achieve... :^)

>>34650810
Could a ship this large even hold itself together, or would it buckle like a noodle going over 20-30 foot swells?

>>34663296
That also grows pretty much all of its own food, and can even do export of profit crops like Anglerfish.

>>34663184
The funding for the carrier comes from the japanese "Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology"

>>34663508
So, every issue regarding feasibility of such an endeavour is hand-waved with governmental gibsmedats?

>>34663689
Yeah, but at one point the government realizes they´re bankrolling a 7km supercarrier for almost no gain at all and it becomes a major plot point.

>>34655647
What the fuck is that and what's going on

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>>34650851
>>34652195
>>34662415

Build it in Norway, this is like 70 miles south of the capital Oslo.

>>34662805
>the carriers were just added as fanservice
I don't have a problem with it personally, but this is probably the most bizzare form of fanservice I've seen yet, it's so out there and specific that I have a hard time figuring out why someone would ask for it.

>Something something security measures and carbon coating, mentioned in episode 3
Jesus christ so all there is protecting them is a magical armor coating and there is a very real chance that they can get killed/seriously injured if they stick their heads out the cupolas or fall off a cliff or flip over(which I'm prety sure did happen once to a jagdpanther I think)? I mean I know it won't happen but it's crazy to know they are fine with pulling off all sort of leet tricks without hesitation when there isn't even an in universe reason protecting them, truly living on the edge.

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>>34650810
I prefer this webbum.

>>34652786
Funny enough, the plot consists on a underdog sports team trying to avoid getting their school ship axed for budgetary reasons.

The world building fluff explains the carrier construction as a bullshit way gov used to boost the economy with their construction (with some foreign sponsorship).

>>34663760
(C84) [Takotsuboya (TK)] Yukiyukite Senshadou (Girls und Panzer)
A grimderp GuP doujin.
F/a/gs used to get triggered by it.I just found it to be a mediocre pastiche.

>>34659704
But really, at that level of material science they'd be better off building orbital elevators and doing space stuff. Cute space stuff.

>>34661823
>! Oh, and put everything on oversized carriers where only the top deck is ever used!
The rest of the carrier is a school too. It's almost entirely manned by students. They've shown them in the machine rooms, farming fish, etc. Althought here is still plenty of unused room.

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>>34654289
How big is Spaceball 1 compared to these?

>>34651542
>Le great flood meme

>>34652233
Kill yourself nigger

>>34664063
>The rest of the carrier is a school too. It's almost entirely manned by students.

How? This carrier is large enough to ship all American blacks back to Africa; it would requre to have a town population on board just for basic maintenance.

>>34655647
>>34663982
Yes I know but specifically in that image because I don't remember it.

>>34664210
>it would requre to have a town population on board just for basic maintenance.
Naval Studies. The students in that department pay their tuition by doing all the maintenance and operations work.

>>34656516
Japan is fucking gay, you dumb nigger. Should've dropped more nukes on the fucking gooks

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>>34659540
>>34659540
Yes

Lockheed wanted to build the CL-1201, a airborne aircraft carrier powered by a 1,830MW output set of nuclear reactors.
Wingspan of 1,120 feet; crew of 845 people; carries 22 F-106 interceptors that get recovered by trapeze hooks.
Uses 182 lift engines help get airborne and 4 massive turbo fans to maintain flight.
Late 1950's~early 1960 design.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_CL-1201

So that flying boat aircraft carrier should be easy with today's tech.

>>34663296
see
>>34652177
America probably has fourteen of the fucking things, building multiple platforms rather than just one huge honking "flat"top.

>>34651437
Where is this from?

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>>34659540
>>34660525
>>34664435
Ez-pz

>>34662426
>>Why it's done by women and not men.
They literally don't though, the whole "it's feminine" thing doesn't even fly in universe, since they acknowledge people like Rommel, you know a male tank commander and everytime they're seen watching military movies there's nothing but men in it. I don't particularly mind them hand waving things with "it just works, don't worry about it" so long as they don't take themselves seriously while doing it, which they don't anyway but that isn't exactly an explanation.
The last time male teams participated in tankery, it started WWII.

>>34664261
Black forest loses and then Pravda goes full Abu Ghraib on them. Not even Saunders baka.

>>34664469
The idea is that girls do it civilian style and dudes actually go to war

>>34664091
Spaceball 1 is 11km long
those shitty little fuckers don't even compare

>>34664091
http://dirkloechel.deviantart.com/art/Size-Comparison-Science-Fiction-Spaceships-398790051

>>34664522
>some libcuck demands that 'gender-mixed tankery must happen' (but only for male schools, female schools can remain independent)
>first engagement
>first group of men lose because they taking it chill, but still put up one helluva fight
>libcuck is exuberant at female victory
>next engagement
>next group of male teams are filled with righteous vengeance and absolutely devastate the female teams on both the tactical and strategic level
>libcuck "violence against women rape rape TRIGGERED ban men from tankery RAAAAAAPE"

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>>34664584
I dunno, if
>>34652177
Oarai is 7600m, Chi-ha Tan or Kuromorimine might very well breach the 10 kilometer mark. And we don't get the full length of St. Gloriana either.

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>>34664469

>>34662529
The energy output of the turbolasers on an outdated Republic-era transport ship are equal to 200 gigatons. Halo's UNSC is firmly in the double/triple-digit kilotons, outside of their outlier 50 megaton strategic nuclear warheads, and Covenant barely reach up to double-digit megatons on their largest ships. A single Imperial star destroyer could shit on the entire UNSC fleet by itself, and eleven could exterminate the entire Covenant.

>>34664730
The SW technical books were intentionally written with grossly and sloppily inflated numbers for the sole purpose of inflating their e-peen during a period when the SW versus ST rivalry was at its most feverish height. The lead writer was actively involved with such debates at the time. This is less than public knowledge but researchable. None of the numbers match up with what actually happens on screen and should not be taken as canon; better to calculate the output of the weapon based on what it visibly accomplishes than take the ICS on its word.

To prove that they have such strong weapons and such strong armor and shields to resist those weapons requires first that one explain away how an A-Wing crashing into a bridge can cause the entire thing to go kablooey. That does not speak very well of its durability.

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>>34664709
>Bertha Benz was the worlds' first senshado tankette racer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha_Benz
She's already absolutely patrician taste IRL, this just makes it better

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>>34664730
> outside of their outlier 50 megaton strategic nuclear warheads
You want to talk about outlier nuclear warheads for the UNSC? How about the fucking NOVA?

>>34664821
I think the math of that program just broke

>>34664832
Nigga, read about map projections

>>34664861
I'd believe the radiation radius ought to be just a little bigger

>>34664821
>that one patch of "safety" on the West African tip
>sensible chuckle.png

The NOVA Bomb should have been the UNSC's go to weapon for surgical strikes, not Spartans.

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>>34664709
>tank racing
/vg/ /hg/ might be slightly crossing into this thread, but...
>pic
Fuck, I want to take a M820 to one of those events
>>34664788
So like the Halo Encyclopedia's 1.17GT MAC on a heavy frigate, or the Super MAC firing slugs at 40 PSL from the same?

>>34664881
>planets scorched of life
>all nearby natural satellites (re: moons and shit) mass-scattered ala SW's Alderaan
>surgical
lol fuck no. It was a one-off, it should stay a one-off.
And be retconned to have some kind of Forerunner power node jury-rigged into it.

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>>34664934
You're aware that this device is easily possible IRL, right? The Tzar bomba was just a triple-staged hydrogen bomb, and the weakened version of it at that. The maximum output would have been around 100MT instead of the 60-odd that it was fired at, but the Soviets wanted the bomber crew to survive. You could easily quadruple or quintuple the staging it to get to Nova bomb size. Sure, then it's the size of a 40 foot shipping container. But who cares about that in space?

>>34664815
>With no fuel tank and only a 4.5-litre supply of petrol in the carburetor, she had to find ligroin, the petroleum solvent needed for the car to run. It was only available at apothecary shops, so she stopped in Wiesloch at the city pharmacy to purchase the fuel.[10] At the time petrol and other fuels could only be bought from chemists and so this is how the chemist in Wiesloch became the first fuel station in the world.[9]

>She even cleaned a blocked fuel line with her hat pin and used her garter as isolation material.[9] A blacksmith had to help mend a chain at one point. When the wooden brakes began to fail Benz visited a cobbler to install leather, making the world's first pair of brake pads.[2] The thermosiphon system was employed to cool the engine, making water supply a big worry along the trip. The trio added water to their supply every time they stopped.[10] The car's two gears were not enough to surmount uphill inclines and Eugen and Richard often had to push the vehicle.[10] Benz reached Pforzheim somewhat after dusk, notifying her husband of her successful journey by telegram. She drove back to Mannheim several days later.
Whoa.

>>34665144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JcxD4UJ_4
>in my head whenever I read those exploits

>>34664497
What happened to the girl in that picture

>>34665242
Everything? I think she ended up catatonic so I really don't remember exactly how it went since I read it like once or twice back when it got translated.

>>34656161
GOOD LUCK LITTLE DUCK

>>34665380
There's a lot of historical references in it. Except for America losing. That's a bit odd.

>>34663982
I don't understand that doujin at all? Why were they killing each other?

They changed the rules at the end, but she hated her mother for being right?

>>34665981
Some guro asshole decided to give a fuck you to everyone's good times, that's really all there is to it.

>>34665981
The artist is a hack that couldn't actually get legit Manga published so he makes edgelord forced drama doujin full of references to western movies.

>>34652335
There is not that much titanium in the whole world.

>>34665144
what a babe, bet she was a top

>>34666624
Five kids mang

>>34659586
>I need all the military themed cute girls doing cute things anime you know of right fucking now.

Strike Witches
Brave Witches
Gunslinger Girl
Haifuri (it's good, if you don't like it you're a faggot)
Shuumatsu no Izetta (it's not that good)
Youjo Senki

>>34662750
They also don't carry a lot of people. The largest amount of humans a ST ship had was the Enterprise-D. While that's only considering the non-military personnel onboard, it still only clocked in at 1000 souls. A regular Star Destroyer had 37,000 to 50,000 people on board.

>>34667689
>haifuru
>no kancolle

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>>34650810
The windows on the bridge of that island are either drawn way off proportion or fucking huge

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>>34667732
I'd like to add Star Destroyers on paper sound stupidly inefficient (always lugging around that much crew/equipment/supplies) while Star Trek was pretty damned pinnacle of accomplishing the most with the least amount of souls.
If the Federation stopped being faggots and went back to being military they wouldn't get smacked around so much. Case in point, that one time they stopped sucking pacifist cock and listened to the angry black man.
>50 people
>enough firepower to end most shit.

>>34667741
i'm not familiar with kancolle.

>>34667857
The girls are ships

>>34650810
Fucking weaboos shitting up k with anime

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>>34667863
this

pic related, it's a japanese destroyer yuudachi who made burgers so mad that they shot her even when she tried to surrender

>>34667758
Even the cables attached to the bridge make no sense at this scale. Imagine having one massive cord pulled across entire district - what purpose does it serve at this point?

>>34662449
the gold old days are never as nice as we remember

>>34662805
>the carriers were just added as fanservice
that's not the type of fanservice i'm interested in

>>34651437
The fuck is the sauce to this? I've literally never seen anyone do anything but post this gif of the show.

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>>34669931
baka

>>34650872
Panzer no Pico

>>34669991
>>34664441
Boku no Woto

>>34667689
What about Arpeggio of Blue Steel?

Physically possible, but too many problems arise:

1.) Where to get the steel to make it

2.) How to pay for it (biggest problem)

3.) How to move it

4.) How to supply it

5.) How to physically build it. No shipyard approaches the size

>>34670401
6.) How to steer it without it immediately capsizing, breaking apart, or running aground

who's a captain of that ship? a 18 y.o. former loli?

>>34670410
Probably use the same things modern cruise ships use. Just a shitton of them.

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>>34667758
The entire tower is probably off proportion.

>>34656161

GOOD LUCK LITTLE DUCK

>>34661734
I think it goes more on the lines of
>lol lil grils drive tanks and have battles b/t other girl schools y tf not? yolo!

>>34667914
Well it wasn't really their fault, the first flag wasn't supposed to be a declaration of surrender.

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>>34652177
>>34654607

* cough * This is the HMS ARK Royal next to that, Looks like the USS George Washington is even bigger

>>34671424
Ooarai has the best nature parks of them all.

>>34662659
tanks, doc