Tips for concealing full size?

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>>34634353
I have a Glock 17 and would like some advice as well

Just make sure you get a rock solid belt for something that heavy, something that's not going to start to sag down or outwards as you wear it. I'm pretty small, and if I have to carry something larger I find that I need to wear the gun closer to 4:30-5 o'clock rather than 3:30-4 to keep the grip from poking out of my shirt.

>>34634353
Appendix carry at whatever position conceals the grip the best, or get one of those G2 holsters that put it down at your thigh, if anyone asks say it's a medical device and hope they aren't a doctor

just buy a compact

>>34634353
The backbreaker/Mexican carry and a Hawaii shirt make anything disappear my dude.

The area around me has been ramping up in crime lately so I was considering carrying a full size when out at night instead of a single stack that I normally use.

I have a little bit of a gut so AIWB is not the most comfy. Also until the fall/winter I cant layer up and conceal that way.

>>34634353
Does your shithole not allow OC? Just get a level 2 holster, or OC at 1-2 for active retention.

>>34634543
>The area around me has been ramping up in crime lately
If there's an area that's ramping *down*, I think we have yet to hear about it. Dad has to get a CCW for the first time in his life because his shop in rural Montana keeps getting burgled by meth heads and there are Syrians in Helena. Mom dug her bedside stand gun out of storage because the homeless people down by the river shot at each other twice last year and the cops didn't even show up. Who wants to flounder around in the berry bushes in the middle of the night looking for some homeless drug addled fuck with a gun?

The amount of *reported* crime looks comforting, but I think that's about as valid as the polls prior to the last election -- or the ones now confidently saying that a majority of gun owners favor the closing of that dreadful gun show loophole.

Our civilization is dying the death of a thousand cuts. Arming yourself is the only way to go.

>>34634541
Can confirm.

I carry a Glock 19 in a fobus paddle holster and it prints like crazy unless I have a couple layers on. So I open carry pretty often. If I'm in a grocery store I'll just pull my shirt over the pistol but it prints.

Other holsters conceal much better and I'll use them when I am going to be out in public all day. My p226 conceals very well with a locally made holster. I forget the name.

Embrace the print.

>>34634585
You sound like every other crotchety old dude since the fall of Rome.

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>>34634353
I also am wondering how to conceal a full-size pistol
>hard mode: Florida heat along with XDM 9mm 4.5"

>>34634695
This isn't a generational thing.

You're being boiled to death, slowly. Only SF ever had homeless encampments and fag pride parades. Only criminals can't buy guns. Only men and women can get married. Anyone who would castrate a medically healthy boy and send him to school in a dress should be in prison. Importing colonia of illiterate clit-cutting throat-slitting savages is a non-starter. And even when we disagree with our political opponents on means, we agree on ends.

None of this is normal. None of it.

>>34634353
Just use a shoulder holster and a button up shirt over your wife beater.

/Thread

>>34634897
We're talking about cramming a gun in your waistband, how did we get here?

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>>34634897

Fuck yes!

>>34634353
Just do it. I don't understand why everyone seems to think it's a hard thing to do.

>>34634585
>>34634897
Jesus Christ dude, go jack off to traps or something. What the hell does that have to do with concealing a full sized pistol?

>>34634897
Phil, don't you live in cali? do you even ccw? Legally?

>>34634353
Mexican carry

/thread

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>>34634377
Glock 17 is easy since it is about the same weight as a steel compact pistol. I'd recommend a sticky holster since it is the most compact package and you can wear it on any position to find one that's more suitable.

>>34634960
Sounds harder to get to your gun.

>>34635384
In reality, very few people are knowledgeable to identify a print. And of those who are, who would say anything? Yet alone do anything.

>>34634353
Good holster, good belt, carry appendix, keep your shirt untucked.

Works like a charm for me. Oh yea and stay away from clothing made of stretchy fabric. It's all fun and games until you're walking somewhere peopled and either you hit a headwind or your speed causes the air resistance to increase your printing 900%.

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>>34635775
>Mexican carry
You have to rip open our shit like hulk

>>34635844
It's definitely an option. I carry my CZ compact appendix sometimes. But there are some major cons.

>can't get to the gun easily while sitting
>same for driving
>gun is pointed at a vital area of your body
>like you said, wind can practically outline the entire gun
>gun can get a lot of sweat on it depending on holster

>>34634695
it's Phil, he is. Best if you filter him

>>34636019
>>34635844
these guys summarized it all plus summarized appendix carry.

Just be inconspicuous and don't bother nobody, nobody'll bother you. I'm a lanklet and I conceal a fullsize at 3 o'clock.

>>34636019
Things i do in those situations:
>not generally a problem for me honestly, gut in the way?
>Best thing I've found is to tuck your shirt behind the holster, adjust it to minimize print(optional), and slide the belt between the holster and your stomach. Getting a gun slimmed into my pelvis at 55mph sounds highly unpleasant.
>i find with enough fiddling i can often get the guns barrel to point between my legs. I call this FOP carry. Usually what i do is tuck my willy to the left and adjust the gun so that it's center of balance is on my midline or just to the left of it with a 15-20deg cant. The holster keeps your dick clear and your thigh *should* mostly be too, might not work as well for bigger people though. It also helps to wear your belt buckle almost on your left hip to minimize bulging. This technique has a bonus of sometimes making any barrel length that pokes out look like a harmless erection to your more astute observers. this of course will depend on your gun/holster combo.

>the wind can be annoying, in colder months i zip on a cover garment. In general i find that wearing thicker cotton style t-shirts(ideally with a pattern such as flannel) largely negates the problem. It can get slightly unpleasant in the dog days of summer.
>i find a full length sweat guard helps to prevent almost all of this and reduces incidents of a knurled or pokey hammer sticking you when you try to bend forward. Downside is that now that piece of kydex/leather is what's bumping into you.

>>34636251
You're right that there are work-arounds, and pros/cons to every set up, rig, or method.

To me, I want to make carrying as simple as possible. But depending on the situation I understand the factors to prioritise may change.

>>34636298
Ah understandable. Different methods tend to work better for some. Hell, most of the reasons i AIWB instead of some other position are personal ones.

>>34634353
Get fat

>>34634541
nigga knows what's up

cc fullsize Tanfoglio Witness no prob, and I'm not a hambeast.

caveat: I do wear a blazer full time, so I can get away with other carry positions

>>34634353
12 o'clock carry

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>>34635054
Lol

>>34634353

Usually appendix carry will solve this issue. Or throw in a over shirt, keep it in buttoned.

>>34635747

How well can you holster with one hand?

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>>34634819
As a floridaman, I reccommend pic related, or any of the Thunderware knockoffs that are not made of nylon.

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>>34634353
>>34634377

Have a tight waist and decent shoulders and carry AIWB

polo shirts and button ups like pic related help too but aren't required

>>34638654

That looks like some thing Nutn would use.

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Good holster (as determined by your experience) on a stiff belt. I carry pic related AIWB and have very few problems.

>>34638699
IDGAF. I've had a few sets of them going back more than a decade. I;ve also had IWB holsters, pocket holsters, and memtastic flavours of the month. Those denim crotch pockets work.

>>34634353
good belt good holster
expect to pay 150-200 ish for both
go up a pantsize

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>>34636019
>can't get to the gun easily while sitting
>same for driving

wat?

>>34638631
As in reholster one handed? Wtf does that matter?

>>34638728
Dude has literally positioned himself for a video to run drills.

Yes, if you take the time to move everything around it can work.

I've carried close to a dozen guns AIWB and with a shirt and seatbelt, in a natural unprepared stance, I have seldom been able to get my gun out quickly.

I'm sure with the right set up it is possible, if you try enough to make it happen, but then you'll likely be impairing some other element such as comfort or concealability, especially with a full size.

>>34638737

If you can't see why that matters, than you're a dumbass.

>>34638783
um that's me and beyond looking out the window, that's how I would normally sit.

When you AIWB in the car - put your seatbelt under your shirt and behind the gun, this is the standard technique.

>>34638728
Do you hate your dick anon?

>>34638791
If you're reholstering during a period where time matters because there is still a threat, you shouldn't be reholstering.

Therefore, if your threat level is lowe enough that you can reholster, it should not matter.

>>34638791
I can't? Why does it matter?

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>>34638806
I give it the MJ treatment for sure

>>34638829
>the MJ treatment
Don't we all?

>>34638791
Drawing one-handed is much more of a concern than reholstering one-handed will ever be.

>>34638836
>Don't we all?

if you browse /k/ - I would expect nothing less

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVdPhWmKCes

>>34634377
whats so hard about ccing a g17? its like .25" longer grip and .5" longer barrel than a g19, stop being a drama queen

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>>34634353
Be a big guy

>>34634353
I've concealed a g20 IWB with a Crossbreed holster, at 4 o'clockish and a strong cant. It's not comfortable, but doable. It'd help if you had some pants an inch or two bigger around the waist.

Also, consider a shoulder rig for jacket weather or even carrying off your person. Or another pistol.

>>34634585
this, the refugees have been imported along with the millions of illegals from central and south america, many of which have criminal history. obama destroyed us, better get prepared

>>34638728
look at that muzzle sweeping his femoral arteries on the way out and on the way back in to his holster

great form! what could possible go wrong in a higher stress situation

>>34635747
that's exactly how I carry full size!

>>34638931
Wow, it's almost like he should be training a lot to make sure he is proficient and has muscle memory.

I mean, not that it looks he he practices much.

>>34638931
>this just in - training with firearms is inherently dangerous

please, tell me more

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Buy plaid button ups. Literally urban/suburban camouflage.

>>34638977
Yup. I can attest to the button up working well for IWB at 4'oclock.

>>34634353
Appendix, I feel the hand guard and thickness of the gun are hidden the best when people look straight at you.

It just feels weird because you would think most people would notice first, but the majority do not.

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ahem...vest carrying a government size 1911 and a compartment for an extra magazine.

>>34638974
Which is why we limit the danger by choosing not to point the gun at ourselves, especially not when it's loaded and we're intending to shoot it.

>>34639900
You are free to not carry while sitting or driving, I'm free to carry while sitting and driving and practice accessing the gun properly and safely.

I wonder if you have ever noticed that you sweep your leg on the draw from the 4:30 while standing, unless you stand with your legs inside the width of your shoulders like a retard.

Training with pistols is inherently dangerous, stop being an obtuse luddite.

>>34639900
Bet you;re one of those people that refuses to inspect the bore of an unloaded gun because of this sort of reasoning ad-absurdum?

>>34639978
I actually carry appendix. I'm just enjoying how much some people seem to care when someone disagrees with them.

>>34640002
you weren't disagree with me. I was just curious what kind of retard was posting.

>>34640002
Who is disagreeing? You are bringing up non-issues everyone has been aware of since the dawn of carry, this isn't even an argument, you're saying dumb shit and people are telling you why what you are saying is dumb.

Get over yourself.

>>34640025
>>34640013
Get over myself?

I post one sentence. You're the one recording yourself and getting your blood pressure up over how people react to your video on a Mongolian stickerboard.

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>>34640073
you are delusional or insecure, either way just leave the carry talk to the adults

>>34640097
Are you new here?

>>34640073
>>34640127
>merely pretending

Appendix carry is your best bet, just understand its benefits and caveats that come with carrying a loaded gun in such an area.

What you will need
>a quality holster made specifically for AIWB that is well designed (no Aliengear, Incog, Crossbreed, Fobus)
>bonus if your holster comes with a wing claw of some sort, a wedge is a must as well
>a quality belt

This is GOOD and free info pertaining to AIWB and you would be a fucking fool not to read these links. The only problem I would see with your Jericho is that you're going to have to find someone who can make a holster for such a gun that actually knows what they're doing in terms of designing a holster. There's far too many companies that simply do not know what they're doing when it comes to properly designing a holster and in result, copies some shitty one like the Incog, T-Rex sidecar or whatever.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?120-AIWB-(Appendix-Carry)

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?26841-The-Facts-about-using-a-Neoprene-Wedge-for-AIWB

Ignore the retards suggesting shoulder holsters. Seriously, fuck those guys.

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>>34640127
lol foreal?

>>34640157
he's like a cornered animal it's not even funny anymore, no but actually it still is.

>>34636019
>that whole post

baka

>can't get to the gun easily while sitting

This is a training issue that you need to work on. You do realize AIWB is faster than
>ankle carry
>IWB carry
>shoulder holster carry
>pocket carry

all when sitting down?

>same for driving
again ^

>gun is pointed at a vital area of your body

Your gun shouldn't be pointing towards your leg or your penis. If it is, your holster is shit and you are most likely not using a wedge or bothering to properly position it.

>gun can get a lot of sweat on it depending on holster

So? You can always wear an undershirt if rust is a legitimate issue for you. There are holsters that cover the entire slide available.

>>34638931
He really should learn how to properly clear his gun over the steering wheel but you're a retard. You do realize he is thumbing the back of his P30? Oh wait, you're probably going to read that last sentence not knowing what the fuck I just said, yeah you idiots have no say in how anybody should be drawing/carrying their guns.

>>34638613
>>34638654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfGKUg9yCBU

Not sure if I'm just retarded but appendix carry is incredibly obvious.

I have a cz75 that I use in an aliengear 2.0 holster. I wear it at about 4:30, which let's the bulk of the weapon rest in the inward curvature of my back. It's actually pretty invisible when I'm standing, even with just a slim t-shirt. When I sit down it looks like I'm carrying an RPG in my back pocket.

I switched to a shield with a desantis slim-tuk and it conceals when I sit down. That holster doesn't cover the back of the slide so the safety switch wrecks my skin. I know Zorn makes an identical holster with a full guard, but I'm too cheap to shell out $80 for it.

>>34639978

Once I know the weapon is clear I point it at my head and tell my wife I'm ending it all then pull the trigger. She just laughs.....for now.

>>34640480
>Not sure if I'm just retarded but appendix carry is incredibly obvious.

Are you saying AIWB is more liable to print than 4:30?

If that is the case, while I wouldn't call you retarded, you are simply wrong.

>>34634353
>>34634377
Shoulder holsters and Hawaiian or button up T-shirts (as light as possible) worn over it.

I CC a Jericho 941 myself actually, but only in the winter.
I use a Belgian police surplus shoulder rig.

>>34640493
>ad-absurdum
Thanks for reiterating my point.

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>>34640493
>>34640862

I prefer the "The Way of the Gun" method, 6 pistols dropped into a bag, one loaded, like a macro level russian roulette.

>>34640719
Maybe it's because I don't wear clown clothes, but there is simply zero room in the front of my pants/shirt. The buckle on my belt prints through my shirt; there's just no way to get a gun in there. I could see it working with a baggy shirt though.

On the back there's a natural empty space that exists because of the lumbar curve, even when wearing a slim shirt.

>>34634541
This. currently ccing an STI Spartan for the same reason as OP

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>>34640999
People do all have unique anatomy, I'm still very suspicious that you've simply have not exhausted or even really explored the AIWB combinations, or possibly you are grossly overweight, barring that I've never met or heard of anyone concealing deeper at the strong side 4:30 that the appendix.

Quite the opposite in fact, it's been a firestorm of conversion to AIWB carry over the last 5 years, and deeper, easier concealment is the second most commonly cited reason why (speed & control being #1)

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>>34641072
Like I said, my clothes fit. The guy in your video has a 30" waist covered by a 40" shirt and has on cargo pants. He could conceal three desert eagle's in there.

If you're wearing pic related, there's no way you're concealing any normal gun in the front of that waistline. Maybe you could pull it off with something like an LCP in mexican carry.

The lumbar curve on the back is the only space that exists to put the gun. And not even then on my dress shirts that I've had made which have no room in the front or back.

>>34641185
36" waist, 6'2" and a medium button up collard shirt

If you think a gun hides better at the 4:30 than the AIWB in relation to you picture, we don't have much more to discuss because you're not connected to reality., literally every professional disagrees with you.

>>34641219
Buy a shirt that isn't 3 sizes too big and get back to me. Your whole fucking torso would fit through one of your pant legs.

Where does the gun go in my pic? In the navel? There's literally NO ROOM. The shirt gives, not the stomach, and creates a giant bulge that looks like satan's testicle.

> professionals
Yeah I'm sure all these gun professionals using AIWB are basing their opinion on their t-shirts and pants they get fitted at their Bergdorf's in fucking Montana.

>>34641185
You just need a deeper holster.

I wear shit like that all the time and carry a G19. Couldnt do it with a normal holster, but my new one lets me easily

>>34641299
Why do you wear skin tight clothes? If you're wearing a fucking neoprene bodysuit, yeah, you're gonna print.

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>>34641299
You sound drunk, not much more to be said, clearly you either don't carry, or are very new to it.

Remember to pound water and take a couple Ibuprofens.

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>>34634897
Go back to /pol/ you fucking basement dweller. This board is just for the discussion of firearms, not politics. If you want to bitch about foreigners or homosexuals go to /pol/, you'll find an assortment of people willing to jack you off.

This thread is about HOW to carry a concealed weapon, not WHY you have to conceal carry a weapon.

>>34640179
Does /k/ really think sperging out at trolls is cornering them?

It isn't worth the energy. Don't take the bait.

>>34641308
Agreed, deeper holster works, but AIWB mean "in" the waistband, not under it.

>>34641318
Because I live in a city filled with people who dress fashionably, not /k/ommandos who evaluate a shirt based on whether it's a good "cover garment".

Nothing wrong with dressing that way, but how you dress is the biggest factor that's going to affect where you can conceal.

>>34641325
> changes the subject and doesn't answer the question when faced by the reality of physical space

>>34641432
>>34641432
>doesn't answer the question when faced by the Your question is facile, clearly in that shirt you couldn't CC at the 4:30 either, so what's your reasoning?

If you want a healthy discourse you need more reasoned framing, there's nothing to say - the guy in your pic can't carry shit and you know this. So either you're baiting and drunk (my polite first assumption) or you're mentally handicapped.

>>34641430
>>34641432
>merely pretending

>>34641072
You are too good, bothering with these jokers.
>link >>34640169
>retards ignore it and want to complain instead

Go dry fire or do something productive, fuck these people.

>>34641482
> dumbass: AIWB is the best carry ever and everyone agrees
> me: no, rear IWB is better when you wear slim clothes like I do
> dumbass: it's impossible to carry in slim clothes *doesn't wear any slim clothes*

You are the biggest fucking idiot in the world. Do you not believe that air exists because you can't see it with your own eyes?

>>34641526
So the guy in your previous picture, with that tight black shirt can conceal a fullsize gun at the 4:30? That was your initial implication, then I called you out on it. Your response - more mouth breathing shittalking and no reasoning.

Retarded or drunk, I care not at this point, be gone moron.

>>34641515
Yep, it's not even worth it, /k/ deserves to be a noguns millennial /pol/ facsimile shithole

>>34641551
Poorly. But much better than AIWB, because of the space in the lumbar curve. If you have a flat stomach and fitted clothes, there is no space in the front but there is space in the back. But I wear clothes that fit exactly like that and I wear a Shield at 4:30 and it disappears.

You probably don't own any slim clothes (nothing wrong with that) and you're on here telling everyone the best way to conceal in slim clothes and then later saying that it's impossible to conceal in slim clothes. How about "I don't wear slim clothes so I wouldn't know what's best for that", but you're too much of an arrogant jackass to say that. "All the pros agree with me!!!"

>>34641593
>Poorly. But much better than AIWB

Nope, not true at all, you are being dishonest or you just don't know.

Either way, seriously, research, experiment, read learn, you are so fucking out of line it's cringy.

I'm out, I'm confident most folks here can rationally partition the pertinent data presented throughout this thread.

If any of you get tricked into thinking strong side 4:30 is somehow easier, deeper or more concealable, I'm sorry I could not be indifferent and articulate the objective relevant data clearly enough.

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>>34641490
K.

>>34641618
You've presented no data. Unless the number of times you can insult people who disagree with your preferences is "data", in which case, this thread is a gold mine.

>>34641430
>>34642071

So you made a rhetorical passive aggressive post and contributed nothing. well congrats that you are less stupid than the anon you were being lumped in with

>>34642090
>You've presented no data.
Go ahead and present data disagrees.

>>34642114
You don't know what I've posted, clearly. Relax, this isn't that serious.

>>34642148
I never claimed to have 'data' because I don't get off on pretending to be an expert on 4chan.

But I'll call out bullshit when I see it. I respect and agree with a number if your opinions but it's not data nor science, so your slew of insults towards dissenters is obnoxious and immature.

>>34642188
>I never claimed to have 'data'
As long as we're clear. You know you're full of shit, You know you're full of shit. All is good.

>>34642188
>>34642154

why are you constantly framing you responses as if you are talking with one individual.

I exclusively carry a large frame revolver in a shoulder holster. I live in Vegas and go to the strip frequently. You have to be careful there. If security catches you printing they ask you to leave, and they are checking frequently.

If the temperature is anything below 70, all you need is a jacket made of good, heavy material like leather. In summer, I just use an unbuttoned hawaiian shirt. If the wind hits me, I just casually slip my hands in my pockets to pin the shirt down so it doesn't fly open.

>>34634353
1) Deep IWB
2) Jacket over it

Tada, it's invisible!

>>34642154
sorry, a little flustered that there's people with their head so far up their ass, with so little experience, who have the audacity to impart their twisted amateur and childish carry philosophy on the general public.

Pretty telling you only get this kind of ignorant backlash on an anonymous board, can you imagine having to own up to such ludicrous self assured nonsense?

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>>34642321
>Large Frame revolver
>Shoulder holster
>Vegas
>Leather jacket
>Hawaiian shirt
Can I take a ride in your time machine back to the 80s when you're done in the year 2017?

>>34642425
Kek, I guess it does give off a bit of an 80s vibe. Still feels right.

Carrying a full sized isn't that hard I feel as long as you do it right. It helps if you aren't tiny either. I'm 6' 185 lbs and I can carry my 1911 no issue (and often do).

>Get a GOOD belt
I have a Beltman belt and even with heavy guns it's awesome. A good belt will make a heavy gun feel lighter, keep the gun tight to your body without having to be insanely tight, and will hold up well to the contant on/off of a holster.
>Get a good holster
Something that supports the guns weight and distrubutes it well to your belt. For a full sixe the hybrid holsters are nice mostly because they tend to have 2 clips spaced fairly far apart which helps spread the weight more evenly to your belt.

>>34634353
I'm a 5'9" skelington at 140lbs. I conceal carried a Glock 17 with. surefire x300 in an outside the waistband Bravo Concealment holster at 4oclock under a medium size T-shirt.

>>34636156
Will do. I came back after a lengthy hiatus to see the best tripfriends gone and Phil still fuckin here. Jesus. Like, who raped him as a kid? Why isn't he over it?

>>34634353
Mexican carry it between your fat ass cheeks