The Most Pro Second Amendment Movie Ever

Shit is streaming on Amazon. Please 1 star this liberal preachy piece of shit.

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Liberal smugness is truly without bounds

Also the same guy who directed it made that piece of shit Shakespeare in Love which only beat Saving Private Ryan at the oscars because they didn't want a film that violent to win best picture.

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>>34633914
Holy shit. I knew this bombed but I had no idea how badly.

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>>34633643
>thermo nuclear performance
Well it did bomb so that sounds about right.

>>34633938
HAHAHHAHAAA
>>34633693
>>34633693
don't give them shekels, pirate it

magnet link
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The movie was supposed to coincide with Hilldawgs victory, and serve as a primer for the next big push on gun control. Serves as a reminder for how different things could have been with a Hillary victory.
"Nobody is coming for your guns". Yah because you tried for 4 years straight and people fought it tooth and nail. Otherwise they were most definitely coming for our guns

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>>34633938
it went to theaters almost immediately after trump's inauguration.
all the freedom hating (anti)fascists and marxist rats were too busy throwing temper tantrums in the streets to go so the movie and gloat about how hillary is going to destroy your precious second amendment.

>>34633938
>by John Madden
aeiou?

>>34633963
It's disturbing to me how fucked we would've been if Hillary won. Leftists cannot be trusted to keep our society safe

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>>34633643

>>34633962
I meant on Amazon prime. I streamed it. Didn't cost me a cent.

>>34633965
Had a leftist roommate who was an over educated liberal (masters in journalism) who kept insisting trump will never win and that hillary will be banning guns blah blah blah. He had horrible hygiene and smoked a ton of pot. Seems like these losers didn't catch on how pissed the working man was at obongo.

>>34633994
they still give the copywrite holders money when you do that anon.

>>34633994
You can review it without watching it.

>>34634061
Even better

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Hollywood's Harvey Weinstein said he made this movie to kill the gun industry and gun culture.

He said "They're going to wish they weren't alive after I'm done with them.”

Did it work?

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2014/01/21/harvey-weinsteins-anti-nra-movie-continues-hollywoods-gun-control-obsession

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2014/01/meryl-streep-harvey-weinstein-nra

>>34633643
>$3 million production cost
>$100k box office profit

>>34633970
football!

>>34633938

Oy vey goy never forgot the 6.6 million

>>34634089
>Did it work?
Yes. I want to kill myself so I can forget about this movie

>>34633938
That still means that $6.6 million dollars worth of tickets were sold. That means people still saw this shit.

>>34633938
kek hollywood blames Trump for box office fails

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>>34633938
>barely made half back
Rest in piss forever miss

>>34633970
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>34634136
It's worse than that. If red letter media is to be believed, the general rule of thumb, iirc, is a movie needs to gross twice its budget to break even. Presumably, they spent at least another 13 million to market the film. In other words, these faggots were fleeced to the tune of 20 million dollars on this turkey.

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>Tfw the same dude who made Django unchained, the kill Bill volumes and Pulp Fiction has done a 180 and immediately tasted defeat

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What about this gem of a film?

>>34633970
Here comes another chinese earthquake

>>34634185
Trailer:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPPz6i8_nbQ

>>34634185
>lets withhold sex until they give up their guns
In a real setting they would've just gotten raped

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>>34634185
Preceded a year earlier by Spike Lee's basketball American version, which in turn was preceded thousands of years ago by lysistrata. The day of the rope can't come soon enough

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>>34634185
WHY CAN'T I JUST HAVE A HOBBY THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SHIT ON?

>kid brings c96 to school

what kind of collectors leave their valuables like that out in the open?

>>34634246
No one, it has never happened.

>>34634251
I know I am making fun of the shitty movie

>>34634089
>They're going to wish they weren't alive when I'm done with them
I wonder what else Jews apply this school of thought to? Makes me wonder why oh why anyone would hate the poor Jews

>>34634230
Don't ride motorcycles either, people are even worse now than they used to be since texting and driving is a thing now.

>>34634089
Don't go to any movie for anything through The Weinstein Company. Not giving shekels kills the Jew.

>>34634284
Oh man anon did you read my mind or something?

>>34633643
I like the part where Sloane's friend is attacked by A White Male who is armed with a fucking tokarev. It's so blatant the Brady bunch consulted on this piece of shit.

>>34633962
I pirated it and thought it was such a dull movie that i couldnt make it through the first hour.

>>34634284
This

took a fishing trip yesterday, whole 2 hour drive every other person had their phone out

on that, how should one go about reporting a reckless driver in the act? Encountered this lady on the way back that I swear was drunk or high and nearly ran a few people off the road, didn't know what to do about it

>>34634230
Because our intellectually superior and enlightened society should choose what hobbies you should and shouldn't follow like a handicapped child

:^)

>>34634246
What movie is this?

>>34634023
Obongo is the best name i have ever heard for him.

>>34634089
That Vanity fair article is fucking hilarious

>>34634360
How new are you.

>>34634089
Weinstein is a literal defender of pedophilia. He has argued against the extradition of Roman Polanski.

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>>34633643
Pic related
The real best pro 2A movie in recent memory
>*kills your subway nogs*

>>34634445
I think I remember seeing a webm of that exact thing

I'd let her cuck me. I bet she's the kind of domme who makes you eat her bull's cum out her snatch.

>>34634445
I like when she kind of but not really came out as a lesbian. She's tight with based Mel though

>>34634108
Ads (funding for Weekend Edition is provided by the makers of Miss Sloan) for it were in heavy rotation on NPR before it came out and they did several bits on it. Their movie reviewer pretty much called it a dog, though.
>mfw half the programming on NPR was funded by the Koch brothers during the election

>>34634108
Think of it this way, they usually spend just as much on advertising as they do making a movie, so that 13 million dollar budget is probably closer to 25 million. The theaters themselves take about half the profit too.
So for a 25 million dollar investment, the company only got a 3 million dollar return. 22million lost to make a political masturbation tool.

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>>34634230
>Hobby people don't shit on
Not convinced such a thing exists, certainly not insofar as it's something other people can notice you doing. Writefaggotry is the only hobby I've been able to pursue without hostility developing. Somehow we've created a society so entitled and so delicate that the average individual believes they can and should try to destroy everything that they so much as notice in the world around them. That horseshit attitude is the biggest enemy to liberty in the modern age; few political movements can compare to a population that can and will go to all lengths to control one another. Thankfully I think we may finally be gaining a little ground again, but God it's been a long time coming.

>>34634524
It's because normies (women) get attached and then try to change it to suit their desires. Video games, movies, guns, politics, sports.

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>>34634494
I was pleasantly surprised by NPR's coverage of the election shitfest. As we descended closer and closer to full retard, they were probably the last news organization being anywhere near as central as they claim.

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>>34634524

>>34633693
Or I could watch it first and determine for myself its quality.

>>34634561
fucking this especially the video game scene.
Wonder why games like Overwatch and League of Legends are always getting in the line of sight of SJW's compared to games like Dota 2 and competitive RTS's? They're easy as fuck to get into so women will easily flock to them to get popular on twitch and other sites and it just brings in more women.

>>34633963
I love when anti gun people say "nobody is coming for your guns..." bullshit. So many anti gun politicians have out right said the want to ban guns. That means they are coming for them in a very real way.

>>34634573
NPR generally tries to be unbiased, but everyone there is so liberal it tends to leak through.
In the least they don't worry about ratings/advertising so they have no reason to pull the shit other MSM does in their coverage.

>>34634284
The policing of it has made it even more dangerous since people hide it below the windowline and are thus staring at their fucking laps while driving. It used to be fairly safe when I could do it while actually still looking out of the windshield.

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>>34634287
>anything through The Weinstein Company
These guys invest in each others companies and are all friends with each other.

If you pay for any films, you are the problem.

>>34634646
And then when you DIRECTLY CITE THEIR SOURCES the antigunners simply reply "oh you're just interpreting it wrong".

>>34634676
Yeah. I don't like them all that much, but I do respect what they're trying to do. They flaunt the enlightened intellectual :v) card a little, which irritates me, but to be perfectly fair, I'm sure I talk like that sometimes too.

>>34634712
I guess what I mean is there's something to them that strikes me a just a little disingenuous. By and large pretty good shit though

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>>34633938
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>>34634023
i feel like the best way you can sum up the obama administration's 8 years is the section 8 fiasco in austin? somewhere in texas.
>section 8 niggers complain deys no jobs where dey at, that's whysa we's unemployed boss
>experiment relocates section 8 niggers to nice middle class community with abundant job opportunities
>section 8 niggers proceed to destroy said community
>crime goes through the roof
>the streets aren't safe anymore
>black gang crime materializes
>anyone who can flee the ape onslaught is moving as property values plummet
>businesses getting hammered and closing or moving
>same level of redguard unemployment as in their former ghetto
>decide it must be cuz racism and expand the program to new areas anyway
>wonder why enfranchising and supporting filth like blm is driving race relations backwards while setting dangerous precedents like the extrajudicial murder of us citizens, openly funding terror in the ME and simultaneously using terror as an excuse to infringe upon your citizens' privacy

>>34634089
>>34634443
that's because he's a well known child rapist.

>>34634524
Well said there definitely seems to be this culture of absolute malevolence and being critical of everything, taking hold in the country right now. I personally think it's Jewish critical perception personified, mixed with social media, along with critical theory being injected pretty much anywhere. Critical theory leads to eternal pessimism

>>34634744
>that's because he's a well known child rapist.
Hollywood is a society of child rapists. Now remember to be a good goy and memorize at least 20 celebrities and facts about movies.

>>34634222
I havent seen the movie, but it at least makes sense with the basketball-americans since they're the ones constantly shooting eachother. It makes sense for their women to want them to knock it off.

White suburban wives bitching about their husbands hobbies is just fucked though.

>>34634744
Source on child rape plz

>>34634204
>>34634222
Isn't this based on a Greek play

>>34634788
Jesus dude, I literally gave you the title of the Greek play

>>34634089
>Harvey Weinstein
>There is a rumour that when Harvey Weinstein was charged with handling the U.S. release of Princess Mononoke, Miyazaki sent him a samurai sword in the post. Attached to the blade was a stark message: "No cuts". Miyazaki commented on the incident: "Actually, my producer did that. Although I did go to New York to meet this man, this Harvey Weinstein, and I was bombarded with this aggressive attack, all these demands for cuts. I defeated him."
The Jews fear the Samurai

>>34634089

Harvey Weinstein is a rapist and a pedophile

>>34634874
fuck yeah what badasses

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>>34634855
My bad I'm blind apparently

>>34634185
We all know how effective it would be
>women stop having sex until men give up their guns
>guys finally realize how great traps are
>women end up being replaced

>>34634855
Yeah but you didn't capitalize it. It got buried in the main body of text.

>>34634494
>>34634501
I get that guys. My point was that they still managed to get 6.6 million dollars off of stupid people.

>>34634284
I think we need a better drivers training education system that teaches kids to better handle distractions and have them spend a hell of a lot more time driving and doing useful maneuvers like practicing how to correct your car loosing grip and sliding because I can't help to feel we americans give our selfs only the bare minimum in driving training

I mean telling me I can't use my phone behind the wheel? Bitch! I could turn, shift, and talk on the phone all at the same time by the time was 21

>>34634961
They did not turn a profit.

They didn't gain anything, and the movie actually hurts their agenda by how badly it performed.

>>34633643
>Heaton-Harris bill
Specifcs please, for those that haven't watched the movie?

>>34634284
>all these "start seeing motorcycles" bumper stickers

It makes me want to rash into them intentionally. How about they stop pretending to be special and learn to ride the damn thing properly and stop demanding special treatment like they're some sort of immigrant.

>>34634919
Do you half read posts? Do you just ignore words in posts you don't understand? Honestly, this explains a lot about your posting style on here

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>>34634912
Or, they just find some nice conservative women and have nice conservative children


Toxic people with toxic behavior gets bred out

Y-your idea works too though anon

>>34635012
It makes for universal background checks because right now white male criminals can buy automatic assault rifles off the internet without a background check

>>34634646
>I love when anti gun people say "nobody is coming for your guns..."

You mean like how BHO tried to push two (2) different gun restriction bills through congress, failed, and then had a temper tantrum on TV because of it?

>>34635042
But SANDY HOOK BUUUUUHUUUU MUH CHILLINS!

>>34635018
This desu senpai
t. motorcyclefag

>>34634089
>(((Weinstein)))

>>34633693
(((Amazon))) put it on the front page of my fire tv

>>34634978
Or you can actually enforce the traffic laws we have against legitimately unsafe behaviors like weaving through traffic without using your signals in a charcoal gray car with no lights on at dusk.

>>34634089
>"They're going to wish they weren't alive after I'm done with them.”
I now must live simply to spite this man.

>>34634360
are you 12?

>>34635150
Same. Was suicidal until I read this.

>>34634335
>how should one go about reporting a reckless driver in the act?

Literally 911. If you happen to know local highway patrol, use that, otherwise you call the police and say, "Hey someone swerving wildly around on Route 69," give them the license plate and continue on.

>>34634284
Riding a motorcycle has always been risky, these days it's essentially a fucking deathwish.

>>34635150
You mean you don't feel completely devastated by his film and ready to give up all guns forever?

>>34635036
>universal background checks
I'm... trying to think of a reason why that would be a bad thing.
>white male criminals
I'd be more concerned about Tyrone acquiring automatics in this manner.

>https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-the-millions-of-Americans-that-have-lost-their-kids-their-family-members-their-friends-to-gun-violence-stop-the-NRA-once-and-for-all
In which a liberal antigunner sticks his dick into a hornet's nest.

>>34634335
just call them in as a suspected drunk driver. Driving while texting or on the phone has been shown to exhibit the same traits as being drunk at the wheel.

>>34634089

The fucking hubris of these people is unreal

>>34633970
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>>34635287

Yes, rank levels of arrogance that shouldn't even be possible.

>tfw lefties mewl about muh right side of history

>>34634874

kikes btfo

>>34633643

I would tie her to my bed and tickle her armpits for hours.

>>34633643
"Academy Award Nominee". Not for this movie though right? Didn't it tank?

>>34635236
>>universal background checks
>I'm... trying to think of a reason why that would be a bad thing.
because it costs money when the average joe just wants to give his son or somebody a gift but cant because the receiver of the gift has to go do a background check

>>34633970
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>34635445
999 999 999

>>34635202
Then follow up once your journey is finished by emailing a copy of your dash cam footage of the problem driver to them, so that they have enough evidence to make the charges stick...

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>>34634089
>immediate thought is 'disgusting rat kike'
>I'm jewish

>>34635236
>>universal background checks
It is 100% unenforceable.

If people can easily get away with selling drugs why not guns?

>>34633643

I actually tried watching this. The cringe was so bad and it was painfully obvious it was just a nogunz circlejerk painting gun owners as "evil and mentally unstable"

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>>34634089

Chastain had to fuck that ugly jew to get that movie. Movie bombs. Haha.

>>34635518

I'd still hatefuck her though.

>>34635236
It's the most important preceding step to confiscation. What they don't talk about with universal background checks is it is essentially de facto registration and makes confiscating a significant percentage of total firearms in circulation much more possible.

think about it:

1. all transfers happen at gun stores
2. all transfers require a record per the atf
3. records must be kept for decades
4. atf and many states actively try to limit number of FFLs, minimizing the targets with such info.
5. is naturally the legal step right before universal registration, also makes that much easier to do.

They're not gonna stop wanting more just because of UBRC.

>>34635236
No, the bad guys in this film are universally depicted as white middle aged men.

Sloane baffles them in a debate when she says Americans are required to have a license to drive a car. This is clearly both factually true and a talking point a gun rights advocate has never heard of

>>34634089
(((Weinstein)))
EVERY TIME.

>>34635431
This. When people say Universal background checks I'm not sure they know what they are talking about.

Like, you want to be an automatic fellon when someone passes away and leaves their property including their guns in your name?

You have to get a background check on your son or daughter to give them a gun?

You have to get a background check to sell someone a gun who already has like 3?

Also, the big problem with background checks is that they are a big net for small fish. The existence of the system is good in that it scares away criminals. But for most people rejected by background checks it is due to incorrect name matches. Most people rejected initially get their gun after appeal. Check John Lotts new(ish) book.

>>34635042
Bolt hold open?

>>34635236
If you can require all legal gun sales to go through a licensed dealer, then all you have to do to make gun sales illegal is make it impossible for the licensed dealer to turn a profit or make it prohibitively expensive for them to continue doing business. It's about centralizing and consolidating targets.

>>34635578
Barry from the Block, yo.

>>34635236
>>34635431
>>34635487
>>34635547
>>34635557
"Universal" NICS checks would be impossible to enforce without a national registration system which is not only a massive invasion of privacy and a tool for confiscation but flat out illegal under US law (FOPA, 1986).

There's also the whole issue of forcing individuals to go to a 3rd party private business. Legally, NICS checks can only be run by FFLs and the FBI themselves, that's it. It's illegal for anyone else to have access to the system. This is so strict FFLs can't run checks on potential employees unless they purchase a regulated item. This system is also not free to use nor available at any time, it's a call in system with a cost per check.

There are plenty of areas like San Francisco as an example where they are literally no FFLs in the city limits after the asshole city council forced the last one out. Further more you can't simply grant access for NICS to the public because it queries private medical data that's covered under HIPAA. Any red flag in the system could be used to deny employment, housing, a loan, etc.

Based on the official FBI data, NICS is a joke when it comes to actually stopping people from purchasing firearms who are legally prohibited from possessing them. It's an insanely complex and expensive system that while better than nothing I suppose is horribly ineffective. And they do a shit job at prosecuting people who lie on the 4473, a federal felony.

>>34635549
>Sloane baffles them in a debate when she says Americans are required to have a license to drive a car.

"The right to keep and bare automobiles shall not be infringed"

>>34635547
Don't forget to mention California's assault weapon registration and subsequent confiscation policies when they dismiss you as paranoid.

>>34635596
>>34635608
Ah. Thanks for explaining it rather than just REEEEEE GET OUT REVOKE MEMBERSHIP

>>34635474
Its okay. You got to post that for free.

>>34635236
backdoor registry

>>34635557
>Like, you want to be an automatic fellon when someone passes away and leaves their property including their guns in your name?

99.999% of the American public thinks that background checks are applied on *sales*. They genuinely don't understand that the feds regulate *transfers*.

>>34635608
Nice post, though the HIPA bit is kind of humorous as it get's broken constantly by hospital workers and doctors every day. Dad works tech support for hospitals and the stories he has of overhearing doctors talking with a patient.

>>34634185
yeah because women don't want sex

such bullshit ideas of sex and masculinity and femininity. women want to fuck, men want to fuck, that's why the fuck. sorry your women all have bullshit ideas of firearms as well. just fucking leave them and find some better women to fuck or just fuck eachother jfc.

so many reasons this sucks

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>>34633643
Call it a conspiracy theory but I think this film was made to spur support for gun control after Hillary was totally 100% sure to win. She probably had plans to comment on it and then it would miraculously get a federal AWB written by the House Dems.

>>34634754
It's been there for ages, especially in academics.

I remember when a bunch of historians decided to prove that Franklin didn't invent bifocals. Turned out he invented them about 50 years before anyone thought he had.

>>34633938
Another 6 gorrillion dead

>>34635708
Oh yeah it's blatant as fuck, there's nothing conspiratorial about it either

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>>34635608
I mean, a couple of tank top wearing niggers came into my local shop and got turned down while I was waiting for mine.

They didn't even chimp out, they just left.

Felt good man.

>>34635708
Never really seen hollywood having any real connection to political parties, they fall more into the same bracket as voters. Though they really live in a bubble all their own.

>>34634185
This film really needed a comic relief gay couple. Also a butch pro-gun woman with an effeminate husband who gets the most obviously frustrated that he won't have sex with her.

>>34635730
*presumably it was just one who was buying, but they rove around in groups like hyenas or catty women

That said, I hope most private sellers have the sense not to sell to blacks anyway

>>34635236
"Universal" isn't a criteria libtard.

>>34635474
Don't worry, you're our honorary Aryan.

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>>34635741
Agreed, nothing to see here. Hollywood is just regular joes, they don't want to influence a whole population or anything.

You are doing a great job, fighting the good fight on a weekend.

>>34635741
Hollywood celebs shill for Democratic establishment politicians all the time. They just have no idea why the rest of America doesn't like being talked down to by some virtue signaling entertainer who lives in a 98% white gated community.
>>34635729
It's like reading about Hitler's lost plans and feeling glad the Allies won the war.

>>34635624
Norcal here.
>Don't buy anything that has to touch DROS
>Build your own shit
>Don't register shit
>Buy private out of state with rented cars/lyft with non-Cali plates
>Take every opportunity to bite your thumb at the state

>>34635632
I do what I can, the problem is these insanely complex issues gets boiled down to pure bullshit. The reality is without a horribly authoritarian North Korean-esc society you will never prevent the criminals from transacting firearms. With that in mind, it's a major issue that only FFLs can run NICS checks.

Based on some things deviant ollam has talked about I came up with a concept. The short version is an open-source heavily encrypted, and most importantly voluntary online system based off a modernized NICS. Basically you have to opt in personally to having a check run on your info, and the system returns a yea or nay with maybe a hash. The core directive is obfuscating, encrypting, and destroying all possible identifying information after the fact, essentially to stop the feds from knowing who is being checked by the system. The problems start with any delayed or wrongful denials and like all good intentioned government programs would enviably be ruined and corrupted by fuck heads. So while it would be nice as a private seller to have access it would really only be used by non-criminals A lot of infrastructure and money for not a lot of benefit

>>34635688
Oh it gets violated all the time, but with a public version of the current NICS you would be handing employers, banks, landlords a free and expedient discrimination tool.

>>34635730
Anti-gunners and general regressives always got ass-blasted when I bring up the FBI's NICS data and the lack of prosecution for what is a federal felony. A few years back Joe Biden made a stupid comment about not having money to prosecute people who intentionally lie on 4473s, and my question was always how the fuck they're going to enforce any new laws in the first place.

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>>34635741
>Never really seen hollywood having any real connection to political parties, they fall more into the same bracket as voters

What's it like being completely blind?

>>34635236
>>universal background checks
>I'm... trying to think of a reason why that would be a bad thing.
On the one hand there's no way to enforce it without a registry.

Ignoring that little hiccup, they've also never actually come up with a workable method of doing it.

>>34635783
I know, I'm pointing out how people say as long as you follow the law everything is peaches but ignore that there is intent to fuck over law abiding citizens once they have your name and number.

>>34635791
I'm mostly shocked at Carrie's writing.

Holy shit, it's 2 hours long?

>>34635549
>Sloane baffles them in a debate when she says Americans are required to have a license to drive a car.
Show me the state where buying my neighbor's old car requires us to go to the local auto-dealer and pay him to get the okay to make the sale.

>>34633643
Apparently miss Sloane is actually a pretty good movie and the hatred is mostly from dumbshit walking stereotypes

Like, I get you disagree with the politic, but you need to separate your opinions from your ability to view a film.

>>34635649
Kek

>>34634445
I didn't liked that cop helped her kill last guy. It would be more impactful if she actually faced consequences.

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>>34635777
>>34635780
n/m you're both right, I'm quite tired and should go lay down

>>34635878
>Apparently
So you haven't seen it?

>>34635759
Oh fuck off

>>34635578
Barrack H. Obama
>you have spent too much time on /k/

>>34635904
Have you?

>>34635878
>Sloane wins an argument by saying that you need a license to drive a car, why not to own a gun
>gun rights advocates have no reply, left dumbfounded
>this is good writing

>>34635929
Nope.

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>>34635878
This is some quality bait right here. I'm actually impressed

>>34635878
>just ignore that the movie is openly propaganda! Lol stupid trumpkins
You can't really talk about putting your political opinions aside when the movie is intended to be political.

>>34635781
i picked this random post to jerk off to

>>34635931
She follows it up by going on a tirade and revealing her coworker is a survivor of a mass shooting to the mass media, against her explicit wishes, and that was her entire plan all along.

Btw, this is the person you're supposed to be rooting for

>>34634089
>weinstein

>>34635972
Clarification: her coworkers explicit wishes, and Sloane premeditated the entire reveal way way in advance

>>34635547
>muh slippery slope

>>34635608
well thanks for saying that, all of that is much better reasoning for not requiring it than most of what I see on /k/

>>34634360
please get the fuck out of here and never come back

>>34636014
>anti-gunners will totally stop trying to take away your liberties after you give up this one, honest!

>>34634874
>American producers talk on phones, do coke off hookers' asses, and try to get all the credit
>Japanese producers send people swords in the mail to make a point

>>34633970
Eeeeeebrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

>>34636014
Why don't you move to California and tell me how the slope is treating you. Be sure to fill out that ammo background check :^)

>>34634204
It the Lysistrata.

Hoi polloi, I fucking swear

>>34634360
>>>/rush limbaugh/

>>34634646
anyone that's spent time in Congress knows they can't actually ban guns, the rest of Congress and a lot of their constituents and the Cabinet and the joint chiefs of staff the Supreme Court and so on would never let that fly
but they know people want guns banned, so they say they want to ban guns, or they say they want to introduce this or that restriction as a dog-whistle message or to seem more level-headed
>>34633984
just like how Obama was going to take the guns? right, OK

>>34635791
Take that Louis CK one out
>hurr durr my jokes about fucking fat feminists while theyre on their period are funny guise
That fuck dug his own grave with shitty humor abd wonders why peolpe arent buying tickets

>>34635857
why?

>>34635968
that's not true
are you unable to put your social views aside when you read Lolita?

>>34636115
>but they know people want guns banned

A majority of people in the U.S support firearm ownership or don't care. Very few people want gun bans.

>>34636039
not an argument

>>34636082
that won't work for the whole country

>>34636149
I mean they know a lot of their constituents want guns banned, the ones that say these things usually represent places that are not fond of guns
it shouldn't be surprising that they pander to that

>>34636181
>I mean they know a lot of their constituents want guns banned

I really doubt that, a lot of times the numbers of people advocating gun control are far fewer than those pro gun. There are very few people stupid enough (overall) to be proactive in taking away their own rights.

>>34636148
I think this might be a bad example considering the place you are at, my man.

>>34635931
Have you seen it?

>>34635949
High quality shitpost m8

>>34635972
She does get put in prison to be fair.

>>34635968
Politics in film=/= propaganda. That's like saying everyone's opinion is propaganda. If you're going to criticize a political movie, you first critique it as just a film and how well it conveys itself, then you can get into your opinion of the politics itself

>>34635018
You're a fucking moron.
>>34635061
You're possibly even dumber. Bet you're a fucking casual who goes for joyrides on the hwy on weekends.

Educate yourselves.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a28306/why-you-dont-see-motorcycles-on-the-road/

T. motorcyclefag run off the road twice by bitches texting on their phones

>>34634185
Like most modern remakes of Lysistrata it manages to completely miss the point of the comedy. In ancient Greece women were the ones who were considered to be constantly horny and in need of sex.

An actual modern remake would have to be gender flipped.

>>34636240
She gets 10 months after perjuring herself before a congressional hearing. She says she never surveyed people illegally, then she surgically modified cockroaches (not fucking kidding) to listen in and embarrass her old boss and a senator for reasons and therefore. These are the actions of an insane person.

>>34634561

This

>>34636261
EXcuse me, she reveals before the congressional hearing 10 minutes later that she did the cockroach shit. This was her "trump card" or something? It literally made no sense.

>>34635608
NICS should be freely available to every American citizen. Full stop. There, Universal background checks are now possible for everyone without any need for a record of a firearm transaction.

>>34636198
anti-gun people don't care about their right to own a gun, because they don't have or want one
that's how it always goes with bans, it's about taking away someone else's rights
almost no one wanted Prohibition for themselves, they wanted it for their family, their neighbors, their town, and so on
people didn't make poll taxes and voting literacy tests to make things harder on themselves, they did it shut out poor people (usually black ones but it caught a lot of poor whites and Hispanics and no one seemed to care)

>>34636014
Isn't a fallacious argument when you have historical proof of similar occurrences, logic, and admissions of intent by the suspected party to do those very things. In fact it's got more in common with not being a moron than anything.

>>34635608
>And they do a shit job at prosecuting people who lie on the 4473, a federal felony.
good! fuck NICS.

SHALL

>>34634443
Roman Polanski is not a pedophile. The woman he was accused of fucking was 13 at the time, not a child.

>>34634230
This. All I do is shoot guns and skateboard. I don't even have friends that skate.

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>ITT this thread is a pol invasion
>blaming the Jews
>for anything
go back to pol nazi or better yet hang yourself for being so fucking stupid that you actually believe that a Jew has done anything bad ever. Youre just so bad at life and everyone is lmaoing at you that you want an escape goat to pin your miserable life on. maybe if you acted like a normal person and took the first step and admitted that right wingers are the real monsters of the world you might actually get laid
but your probably too comfortable being a virgin or probably just scared of girls thats why you spend all your time on 4chan and invade a progressive board and spam your stupid conspiracy theories that Jews are responsible for gun control. I've never said this before to anyone but you should kill yourself

>>34634961
Thats less than 1 million people.

>>34634494
Weekend edition is dildos. It's one of the few programs that's gone on anti gun tirades on npr.

1a with joshua Johnson is fucking great for news.
Fresh air with Terry gross is amazing. Terry is my waifu. You're welcome rest of america.
From,
Philadelphia

>>34634445
The best part is the cucked NY gun laws preventing her from buying a gun, so she has to buy a Kahr off the black market.

>>34636359
13-year-olds are children

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>>34635257
>stop-the-NRA-once-and-for-all

Gun grabbers say that the second amendment is only for militias. Then they bash the NRA, the biggest militia in the world.

>>34636359
t. pedo
>>34636386
t. kike

>>34636359
If you're going to be pedantic you should be very sure of yourself. It's very possible to be a pedophile with 13 year olds. Back then burgers weren't quite so burgery

>>34635411
Same. And the soles of her feet.

>>34635549
>Sloane baffles them in a debate when she says Americans are required to have a license to drive a car. This is clearly both factually true and a talking point a gun rights advocate has never heard of
My answer is always: "You're right - and that's bullshit, too. I shouldn't need a license from the state to operate my own car, and I see no evidence that it makes the roads significantly safer that I *do* have to get one."

>>34634874
Miyazaki actually hates Jews. Watch The Wind Rises.

>>34636450
You need a license to drive a car on public roads.I can drive all I want on private property. Car doesn't need to be registered either if I'm not using it off my property either.

>>34635257
>>34636411
this is a bit of a tangent:
the NRA isn't a militia, it isn't even a rights-protection group, it's a lobbying group and a campaign contribution group, and it lobbies for corporate America
they used to stand for peaceful, non-asshole defense of guns, but they had a fucking coup around 40 years ago, now it's assholes all the way down
lobbying and "campaign contributions" at all are questionable at best, it's often basically state-sanctioned bribery
but yes they support the gun manufacturers, and those companies don't care about anything but the bare ability to a few kinds of guns to people
restrictions are good for them because they get to sell more guns and accessories and conversion kits that fit the new laws, and sell off the old ones before the new laws take effect
they know people buy them because they're worried the restrictions will go even farther and this might be their last chance, which proves how profitable it is to allow or even push for more regulation
more regulation eventually happens (maybe with some deregulation in between) and people think that that justifies their worry, so they buy even more guns, and the whole fucking thing starts again
fuck the NRA

>>34634646
Liberals don't follow the issue as closely as we do as shooters. It is a marginal impact at best on their lives if AR15s were banned, it would be a vital impact on our community. They just want control, control over any and everything they can. Complete and absolute authority

>>34636498
There's nothing wrong with lobbying groups
Most members of congress don't know shit outside of their political science degrees

>>34636557
>Most members of congress don't know shit outside of their political science degrees
how is that acceptable?
we shouldn't be relying on some trust fund sycophants who are bought out by whoever's stock is doing well
we should be voting in people who are competent and we should be keeping them impartial as much as possible

>>34636498
A majority (60% iirc) of the NRA's funding comes from membership dues. Not corporate donations.

>>34636493
>You need a license to drive a car on public roads.
Yes, I know that. My point is that requiring it is bullshit.

>>34636014
Some slopes actually ARE slippery though.

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>>34636386
Stale pasta is stale.

>>34636599
maybe you naturally have a talent for driving somehow, but it took me fucking ages of practice to get decent at it; if I hadn't had someone there to press on the second set of breaks I probably would've gotten in a car accident

>>34636594
that's pretty small as majorities go

>>34636576
I 100% agree
In a ideal world that'd be perfect, but I believe we'd be hard pressed to find people that are nuclear physicists, meteorologists, surgeons, and criminologists at the same time

>>34636635
Still more than they make off corporate donations.

Especially when you consider the remaining 40% also includes ad and merchandise revenue.

>>34636639
The only way to do that is make it a hereditary job, so you could start training when you were 8.

>>34636680
That is a very dangerous and tyrannical path

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>>34636498

Everything you said is completely wrong. Everything. Especially your grammar.

>NRA isn't a militia

They are an armed group of civilians. That's all the word militia means.

>it isn't even a rights-protection group

It is the biggest rights protection group in the entire world.

>they had a fucking coup around 40 years ago, now it's assholes all the way down

Good. They use to compromise with gun grabbers. Now they learned their lesson. The fact that you, the enemy, hates them means they are doing something right.

>>34636628
>maybe you naturally have a talent for driving somehow, but it took me fucking ages of practice to get decent at it; if I hadn't had someone there to press on the second set of breaks I probably would've gotten in a car accident
Okay, and what does that have to do with getting a license from the government? Getting trained to do something and needing a license from the government to do it are two completely different concepts.

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>>34635791
Socialism Induced Death Syndrome

>>34636148
Have you even read Lolita? It's not a picture of blissful consequence-free loli-fucking. Humbert Humbert is shown at every turn by his own words to be a shallow, miserable creep who destroys the title-character's life while excusing himself with "she totally came on to me, man." There's no comparison with this garbage movie and yes I did watch it you faggot.

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>>34635150
On a similar note

>>34633643
they should make a porn called "miss moan", with the tag line "1 woman vs 300 million dicks"

>>34636854
no way that's real

>>34636854
>I'm fat and have an equally fat mouth listen to my rhetoric

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>>34636854

Fat Rosie and hypocrite Hollywood loves guns. Limousine leftists love it when their bodyguards have guns, they love it when their gated communities and mansions are protected by security guards with guns. What Hollywood hates is the second amendment. They don’t want working class Americans to defend ourselves and our families. Guns for the super rich and famous. Gun control and prison for everyone else. Typical.

>>34636794
>They use to compromise with gun grabbers.
In the real world everything can be compromised on and usually is compromised on. If you can't compromised you will eventually be outnumbered by people who will because that allows you to get more shit done.
>The fact that you, the enemy, hates them means they are doing something right.
I didn't say we should get rid of guns, I didn't even say we need to restrict them more, you're just assuming I'm your enemy because I don't support the fucking corporate lackeys you look up to.
The NRA does not care about you. That is the point. No government, no corporation, and no lobbying group cares about you as much as your family and friends, and they never will.

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>>34636399
I'd listen to it more if every single fucking story didn't have to be told through the lens of upper-middle class college graduates.

They had a story on shootings on Baltimore. I expected objective coverage illustrating how, per capita, the drug trade is causing more fatal shootings there than Chicago. Maybe some interviews with both police and residents in the area to explain both sides of the issue, from noncooperation with police to the hollowed out job market.

Instead the story revolved around some photographers quest to photograph every site of a shooting in 2016, 1 year to the second after they happened. Just how fucking tone deaf of an editor can you be?

>>34636794
>They are an armed group of civilians.
Thats a horrendously broad umbrella term you've assigned for militia, neither of which has any legal bearing at all. You're better off saying everyone 17-45 is in the militia

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>>34636411
Sadly only their second best cover of the last year or so.

>>34636833
because if I didn't realize that I was going to be shitty at driving and I didn't legally need to practice first I would've caused a car accident and possibly killed someone
is it fair on you? no, maybe not, but sometimes you can't have nice things because there are shitty people who can't handle them
I apologize, I sincerely apologize, for my lack of gross motor control and spatial awareness, but the fact people like me exist are why people like you need a license, for cars or for anything dangerous

>>34636362
do you have a blowup doll too?

>>34636666
And member donations which are separate from dues.

>>34637111
Is this satire

>>34634089
where can we email our opinions?

>>34634089
>weinstein

I don't want to sound like a /pol/fag but boy-oh-boy

>>34637155
>because if I didn't realize that I was going to be shitty at driving and I didn't legally need to practice first I would've caused a car accident and possibly killed someone
So you're telling me that you're so stupid and lazy that you wouldn't go through the modicum of training and practice necessary to do a common activity without killing or injuring yourself or others unless the government forced you to?
>I apologize, I sincerely apologize, for my lack of gross motor control and spatial awareness, but the fact people like me exist are why people like you need a license, for cars or for anything dangerous
Bad motor control and spatial awareness aren't cured by the government handing you a piece of plastic with your picture on it. The problem here is that you aren't safe to drive, and the fact that you managed to pull it together just long enough to get through the not-very-challenging test to get a government license to do it has given you the false sense that you are safe to drive. That makes you a danger to me and everyone else on the road - one that the government license system has apparently done nothing to stop.

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>>34637148

>>34637278
They aren't wrong in this instance though. Gun control-advocating politicians are overwhelmingly Jewish.

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>>34637094
>everything can be compromised on and usually is compromised on
>I didn't say we should get rid of guns

You didn't have to. You are obvious. Either you are a gun grabber or worse, you are a compromiser hiding behind our backs. You are the enemy.

>no lobbying group cares about you as much as your family and friends, and they never will

My family isn't the biggest organization of gun owners in the world. My friends do not influence Congress on what laws to pass. The NRA is and does. What a completely stupid and utterly useless statement you made.

>>34634284
Just want you to know that I purposely hog the lane if I see a motorcycles trying to split lanes. I also speed up when a motorcycle is trying to pass and slow down to tempt them into a pass attempt.

I know I'm not alone.

>>34633938
While they peobably didn't advertise as much as mainstream movies as it's semi indie film despite having rich and influential backers in the movie industry; typically a movie has to make double it's budget cost just to break even because it usually costs just as much money to promote a movie nationally as it costs to make it.

They peovably didn't plaster city busses and billboards with this movie title but I remember frequent tv commercials.

>>34634335
DUI applies to boats as well.

>>34636240
>Politics in film=/= propaganda.
It very well can, in fact, because of HOW MUCH one sided politics appears in film and television across every genre I'd say it perfectly qualifies as propaganda for the sheer volume.

If you're told something by everyone and everything constantly you tend to begin believing it even without evidence but by pure association. It gets harder and harder to hold personal opinions because the vast majority of people simply accept what is told to them through the many forms of convenient media and any deviation is not only met with binary rejection but flat out ridicule.

The worst part is scripted media like television and film can be considered a strawman, everything needs to be fabricated on both sides of the argument, but clearly, people are not investing the time to give legitimate points and values to their opposing side. So what ends up happening is one clearly more articulated and thoroughly planned out character is talking with a literal retard. Then, by association, people assume everyone on the opposing side is a literal retard. You see this in both hollywood and /pol/, echo chambers of propaganda.

>>34637284
>>34637284
>So you're telling me that you're so stupid and lazy that you wouldn't go through the modicum of training and practice necessary to do a common activity without killing or injuring yourself or others unless the government forced you to?
no
but there are people like me that are that stupid and lazy
>The problem here is that you aren't safe to drive, and the fact that you managed to pull it together just long enough to get through the not-very-challenging test to get a government license to do it has given you the false sense that you are safe to drive.
that came after I did well consistently for many weeks of drivers' training, outside of the occasional small slip up that didn't require using the secondary brakes

>>34637331
>You didn't have to. You are obvious. Either you are a gun grabber or worse, you are a compromiser hiding behind our backs. You are the enemy.
I say as a fucking literally autistic person who had to learn this the hard way: everything is not black and white, very very few things are black and white
I don't see you saying you should have the right to own missiles, turret guns, grenades, or attack drones
everything has some sensible middle ground-- it may not be IN THE MIDDLE, but there is always some reasonable space between the two most extreme positions that can be held on an issue

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>>34637567
>right to own missiles, turret guns, grenades, or attack drones

That is a blatant strawman straight out of the Brady bitches handbook.

>turret guns

What the fuck does that even mean? A tank turret? You sound like an ignorant leftist.

>everything has some sensible middle ground

Now you play the role of a centrist. First compromise, then centrism. It's like you are following a script. Next you will call for "sensible" gun control. Nobody believes you anymore.

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>>34637479
This. Repeat something long enough and loud enough, while demonizing or marginalizing opposing views, and you can brainwash anybody.

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>>34636854
>I dont care what you want, I only want control

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>34637567
>everything has some sensible middle ground
Give me your "sensible middle ground" for pedophilia. As one, I'm interested.

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>>34635221
>>34635221
Jokes on you. I smoke and ride motorcycles because I'm trying to be dead in 5-10 years.

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Anyone have recs for pro-gun documentaries or documentaries outlining the progression of gun control in America?

>>34633643
>drug addicted, STD ridden, prone to animal cruelty, and bearing a total contempt for the law and the Constitution of the United States of America
Those qualities are supposed to make us like her. Didn't you watch the Democrat National Convention?

>drug addicted
She's going through some hard times. She a good gurl, tho, she been going to church every Sunday. She about to get her life back on track. By the way, we need money for them programs.

>STD ridden
She is a liberated, strong, independent woman who don't need no man. As proof, she sleeps around and hasn't settled down to start a family - maybe never will.

>prone to animal cruelty
Sociopathy is such a common disorder among liberals that they probably didn't even notice that this made her look like a monster.

>bearing total contempt for the law and the Constitution
Hashtag RESIST.

>>34637567
The people who could afford tanks and missiles don't rob convenience stores, or shoot up schools. I see no reason not to let people buy those things.

>>34637923
BUT MUH TERRORISM

DESU, I'm utterly conflicted. On one hand, I firmly believe SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
On the other hand, short of Civil War II: Electric Niggaboo (in which case, just steal one from an Army depot or something) I can see no reason why the average person would >need a Javelin or Stinger or whatever

>>34635221

What kind of pussy are you? If you wear good gear and know how to ride, you won't ever kill yourself on a bike.

Someone on four wheels changing lanes into you at speed or whatever else would kill you just as dead whether you're on two wheels four.

>>34637962
Sure nobody really needs those things. Same with MGs and 20mm rifles.
They're just fun.

>>34636115
>just like how Obama was going to take the guns?
More like he tried and failed thanks to the republican congress

>>34638023
Ehhhhh, I don't think bending over for the FAA to accommodate spending hundreds of thousands on a single SAM launch would be very fun. Let's be honest, even if everything up to recreational nukes were legal, they would be a plaything of the stupid rich.
And the stupid rich can already play with whatever toys.

Eh, I guess it's good to dream idealistically

>>34637718
>That is a blatant strawman straight out of the Brady bitches handbook.
this would be true if there weren't people on /k/ that said people should be able to own cannons, grenades, and other heavy weaponry
>What the fuck does that even mean?
mounted gun emplacements, sorry if I used the wrong term Mr. Correct
>Now you play the role of a centrist.
I'm not playing any role, I am actually a centrist, but great job on finally figuring it out
centrism, by the way, is not inherently moderate or apologetic, it just means not taking sides (to the extent reasonably possible) when making policy decisions but instead acting on your own best judgement based on the facts, although I am a somewhere moderate centrist
>Next you will call for "sensible" gun control.
I used to want to ban all guns and /k/ showed me that A) most of them are not crazy or resentful or seeking revenge or even compensating for something, and B) there are way too many fucking guns and gun owners to do that
I'm already acquainted with the how dangerous the world is, I lived in Flint for about 10 years, which is the same period I started occasionally looking at /k/ and occasionally arguing but also occasionally accepting the points being made
I am not leading up to anything, if I wanted to say we should get rid of guns I'd be up-front about it at least once in this thread
>Nobody believes you anymore.
nobody else is in this reply chain, just you and I
you can believe whatever you want
your unwillingness to talk to people that you've decided are not on your side (and that you've decided must be against you since they aren't on your side) is going to hurt you and it's going to hurt the things you care about
you're being an asshole and no one wants to help out an asshole

>>34633643
Lmao
Im 20 minutes in(123movies pirate)
and this skinny little faggotty antifa probably cuck just said "guns frighten me" I'm they do, now go and cuck for Africans and watch your girlfriend fucked by her bull.
And so many lies too.
Dildos aren't illegal in Texas
What's wrong with someone walking Into a gun store and buying a gun?
And Bloomberg has a lot more lobbying power than all the gun organizations combined and the NRA funding comes from members, not some fucking Plutocrat.
This movie is Already pissing me off.

>>34637567
>turret guns, grenades
Those are legal numbnuts.

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>>34637999

im so glad youre gonna kill yourself, we need these genes out of the pool

>>34636115
Yes, literally "banning guns" is not the most likely outcome or even their real objective.

I live in NYC. They want to make gun ownership like it is here, for starters. Incredibly expensive to get licensed, both in terms of dollars and opportunity cost BS. 90 registration waiting period for long guns, 3-6 months between handgun purchases (and that's assuming they don't reject your purchase authorization request citing "insufficient need"). Pretty much every semi auto long gun is on the evil ban list, plus a 5 round magazine restriction for the ones you can register. And obviously carry is out of the question unless you are retired NYPD, or maybe Trump.

On top of all that, what they really want to do is make the prevailing culture so hostile to gun ownership that we all must hide in the shadows when exercising the hollowed out remains of our second amendment rights, as we do here.

So yeah, it can get a hell of a lot worse. Even if "ban all guns" is deemed unconstitutional, there's a lot (((they))) can do to make gun ownership intolerably restrictive and expensive while giving lip service to 2A rights.

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>>34638120
>And Bloomberg has a lot more lobbying power than all the gun organizations combined and the NRA funding comes from members, not some fucking Plutocrat.
I even have a confusing political cartoon for that one.

>>34638126
>And obviously carry is out of the question unless you are retired NYPD, or maybe Trump.
>He didn't pay a facilitator
Teddy and Arthur could come back from the dead and they'd find the city little changed.

>>34638092
>I used to be for gun control but now I'm one of you! Really!
neck yourself mate, if I want to own grenades and I follow the law while storing and using them then I will. What I own and use on my own property is my business as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. Besides, you CAN already legally own RPG7s and pipe bombs, they're just horrifically expensive.

What we really need is a legal framework for a "militia" that allows for the equivalent of LEOs buying MGs on department letterhead. That way the people can have access to effective crew served weapons and the ability to be trained on them while avoiding the whole "every street gang has LAWs, claymores, and m60s now" problem.

These groups would have a small core group of people who have been legally cleared(priors, mental issues, etc) to have physical possession of these arms and technically own them but anybody who is registered with the militia or acting in good faith and under their supervision/orders would be able to posses them without recourse. Of course reasonably safe storage procedures would be a requirement along with not allowing for forbidden people to have access. And most importantly the core registered staff along with those officially registered in the militia would be held criminally liable for any misuse or negligence on their part that allows said weapons to be used criminally or stolen.

Kinda like forming a corporation for a suppressor or MG is right now.

>>34637962
It isn't called the Bill of Needs.

>>34638126
Protip: that's the final step where they stamp out any remaining pro 2a sentiment and go for a constitutional amendment and/or total bans.

That or gun crime will become so relatively uncommon that they'll turn their focus on knives and vehicles and only pay mind to guns whenever there's a 1/10000 mas shooting.

>>34638207
That would be nice but it's a solution in search of a problem. You can buy MGs already or just straight make them. You can do the same for bombs and grenades. There's been no surge in crime with these things since gangs have no use for a crew served weapon or a 20mm autocannon. Melting down all the Jennings and Hi Points in the country might be a better step towards stopping gun crime.

>>34638251
Pretty sure he means new build MGs without having to be an FFL.

>>34633938
That's a dollar for every jew in the holocaust. Coincidence?

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>>34637791
well the most obvious and sensible middleground on the issue is where to draw the line
different societies have put the age of consent at a lot of different points, sometimes different based on sex, parental approval, church approval, etc.
currently it ranges from 13 to 20 in different parts of the world; the US lets states decide, and they have a fairly even split between 18, 17, and 16 for the age of consent, although they've agreed on 18 as the age required for pornography and (in rare cases) prostitution, and much of the world has come to the same conclusion for those stipulations
this is all despite the fact that different people grow at different rates and mature at different rates, and most people continue growing until their early- to mid-20s
there's also the prevalence of (rather badly named) Romeo and Juliet laws, where crossing the age of consent is permitted as long as the age gap is small
then of course there's the defense from ignorance, which some people seem to have genuinely fallen to, where a minor lies about being over the age of consent and someone older believes them
of course many societies have had no formal age of consent, but they almost universally had some judgment by a group as to whether a younger person could marry or live with or have children with a significantly older person
there's also the psychological definition, which can be hard to pin down because of the aforementioned fact that people grow and change at different rates, both from person to person and between different parts of the body, including the brain and genitals, which has lead to the terms "hebephile" and "ephebephile", which people usually roll into pedophilia colloquially, but then of course "hebephile" is controversial inside and outside of psychology and "ephebephile" is a little more controversial than that
I think picking an age people where won't get hurt and sticking to it is the fairest way
but yes, what seems like a clear issue can have gray areas

>>34638092
>nobody else is in this reply chain
Lurkers are a thing my fellow man lf Aspergers.

>>34638283
Yeah but you can do that in your garage. Even a belt fed gun is at its core relatively simple, and if you just make an auto sear and say buy a belt fed upper and modify it you can make a "squad automatic weapon." I could be wrong on how easy it is but from what I've seen on CAD sites there are people with the education to do it already out there.

>>34638251
>you can buy mgs....
But due to the NFA and hughes amendment prices are insanely high and registration/possession restrictions are very stringent. Making bombs or MGs is easier said than done, if these things were available with no background check at every LGS you'll likely see them become more commonly used in crime.

To be clear I don't think that overall crime would increase in a meaningful way but allowing these items to get headlines is going to be the surest way to put them into legal jeopardy. Well, perhaps second surest behind slowly restricting use and familiarity with them amongst the people and demonizing these now unfamiliar and seemingly needlessly dangerous items.

The question im seeking to answer is how we can both make them more available to the law abiding citizenry while effectively limiting the damage they can cause to public safety without unduly corroding the intent behind the 2nd A.

I think legal incorporation would be a good path but im open to ideas.

>>34638306
You typed a shitload of words and said nothing. Let me be more direct.

Do you think that I, a 28-year old male American, should be able to engage in sexual intercourse with a 14-year old American female, if she gives consent to the activity? For argument, I'll even say that verbal consent (re: "yes") is a legal requirement.

>>34638364
personally, no, but there are respectable places that would say otherwise
I could say my feelings on that but it's not really relevant

>>34637999
>you won't ever kill yourself on a bike
THE COMMENTS ARE ABOUT HOW A TEXTING SOCCER MOM WILL YOU ULTRA NIGGER

How did this go from a shitty anti-gun movie made by a kike and a pretentious fart sniffing cunt to pedophilia? Oh, never mind it's /k/.

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>>34638395
>Oh, never mind it's /k/.
Welcome to 4chan.

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>>34638395

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>>34638346
I'm saying that you can already make these things very easily outside of the law, so worrying about a crime spike if they were legalized is pointless. You can make a Sten gun for like 35$ in sheet metal and springs. You can make explosives using a high school chemistry textbook and stump remover.
Besides, even if legalized, do you think all machine guns of all calibers and sizes would instantly become cheap enough to be used in street crime? Because that's what really decides what criminals use - cost and concealability. See pic related.

>>34638080

SAMs?

Look up the National Assossiation of Rocketry and amateur rocketry in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=959E5Oh7gPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIKzD_Rn_dY

http://www.space-rockets.com/cost.html

Rednecks and country folk already launch rockets up thousands, and sometimes 10s of thousands of feet in the air all the time and it doesn't cost that much to build em'. People will spend extra to make them look like replicas of real missles sometimes, but that's just for shits and giggles.

Apparently the FAA is pretty accommodating when it comes to filing for waivers and flight planning if you're following safety guidelines.

>>34637923
Theres a guy who owns a tank in new jersey, theres pictures of him filling up at a gas station, even blue states are more pro 2A than you.

>>34638343
Well yeah. It's easy to make one. But you will forever be clenching your ass just in case the ATF comes to shoot your dog. You can't take it to an actual range and you can't show it off to anyone.

>>34638451
>Hi-Point
Gambled and lost, didn't you, guys?

>>34638451
>im saying you can make these things very easily
And work safely or reliably? no. Certainly not in the case of MGs and not as much as you think in the case of energetics. I'm fairly familiar with the processes involved for both. These things are simply beyond the ability or inclination for the vast majority of murderers to make.

Energetics take time, trial, error, and book smarts. Detonators/blasting caps can be surprisingly difficult to make. When i think of foolproof to make, store, and detonate explosives only one really comes to mind and it requires confinement. The rest are either very dangerous, difficult to store, or difficult to set off reliably.

Anyone who thinks making a FA firearm is easy has never had to trouble shoot a homemade magazine to get it to feed right instead of jamming every other round.

These are both way beyond the abilities of the high school drop out habitual criminal that is your average murderer.

OTOH buying this "hot shit" they're bro just got in from a robbery in the burbs and reading a manual that essentially consists of "point side with front towards enemy towards the enemy, insert caps, run wire to position, click clacker when you want explosion" and then doing that really isn't.

These instances wouldn't ever be as common as normal murders(due to practicality), but they'd be likely to occur on occasion as they historically have when MGs were more available.

>>34638509
Yeah, but I imagine there's a difference between unguided rockets and actual, legitimate, radar (or IR) guided SAMs. After all, don't want your S-300 or whatever to mistakenly lock onto Farmer Bob's cropduster or United Airlines Flight FUCU-69.

>>34638648
If someone can shell out the 150 million plus for a single array I'm going to assume he's plenty sane enough.

>>34638614
Why would they? Every gun confiscated is one they don't have to worry about getting asked for warranty again.

>>34637837
>Old Buell

try harder

we could uh...bomb it's ratings on IMDB?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4540710/?ref_=nv_sr_1

>>34637094
Its never real compromise though. It's always the anti-gun faggots demanding 20 things, and calling it compromise when they only get 10. All we get in exchange is that we don't have to put up with all 20.

If I mug you and only take half the money in your wallet, is that a compromise? Because that's what the anti-gun crowd calls a compromise.

>>34639224
what would you consider a compromise?

>>34639277
Not him, but getting back some of the things already taken because that's all that's happened:
>MG registry opened back up
>Silencers off the NFA
>No banned features
>No by-name banned weapons
>No magazine capacity limits
>No more needing a permit to cc

>>34639335
silencers and features are pretty dumb to ban
is there a list somewhere of all the features and parts and accessories that are banned in one place or another?

>>34639345
Look up the 94 AWB. Most state Assault Weapons Bans are nearly direct copies of it.

>>34639277

You can't compromise. Anti-gunners have nothing to give and everything to take. Guns are all or nothing.

>>34639335
Its not a compromise to give up something to get back something that was stolen. That's extortion.

>>34639277
I think Canada actually has somewhat of a decent background check system. I think a combination of theirs and ours could be awesome.

Basically this:
>current background check system we have now
>optional license that works like Canada's that lets you skip the NICS check
>optional license would let you have guns delivered straight to your door like pre-1968.
>would let you buy guns from out of state without going through an FFL in your state

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>>34635505
Wasn't one of her lobbyists saved by a legal carrier?

>>34636999

not even those trips can save you from your naivety

>>34637177
>blowup doll too?
Blowup dolls are for scrubs, quality full size silicone poseables are cheaper than a Leopold Mk 8 or PVS14 (or cheaper than a Razor HD if you don't mind looking like a creep with a sub4 foot tall sex doll).

>>34639335
Also absolutely no import bans which includes nfa import ban, no "ap ammo" ban, no destructive devices unless explosive, no 200 dollar tax and no 10 month wait, no sbr or sbs or aow and no gun control allowed by the states.

>>34636456
Honestly I can't think of anything off the top of my head that Miyazaki likes. Everything you read about him seems to be him expressing disapproval at something.

>>34640478
He likes his son and is proud of him.[/blatant lies]

>>34634089
what a joke... these devils sell filth down peoples' throats and have the audacity to go after legal gun owners?

>>34636411
(((Smear Merchants)))...HA!

>>34640084
the import bans are a big part of why I said the NRA doesn't really care
they could get rid of those, but they won't, because that would hurt the bottom line of the companies they serve