Battle Rifle General

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>>34625513

I'll raise you a bake

>>34625792
How close is yours to locking in? I almost wanna get a fucked mag body to grind the lug down to lock in

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>tfw iowafag
>tfw no FALs to be found anywhere

>>34626411
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417178
Buy this

Ptr? FAL? Ar-10 variant? What should my first BR be?

>>34626467
What do you want?

>>34626411
>iowafag
You're in the wrong part of Iowa then.

>>34626508
Reliability, decent accuracy, a good aftermarket. Maybe use it as a hunting rifle one day

>>34626525
NE Iowa here.
What part are you in?

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>>34626411
>tfw MD resident. FALs are banned by name

>>34626529
The west

>>34626526
Aero AR-10 would be the easiest if it's gonna be a hunter, maybe a PTR

>>34626559
What about as a possible "shtf" rifle? Do ar-10s really not have alot of parts interchangeability?

>>34626601
Depends on the type of AR-10 you get, the BCG and buffer springs aren't interchangeable though which are the parts you'd be most likely to change. I'd use my FAL for shtf battle rifle desu

>>34626642
Are there enough parts laying around to keep it fixed up? Would you use it like a dmr type thing? My first choice would probably be my AR right now, though she needs an optic

>>34626681
If something broke I'd be pretty boned on parts but I doubt any of the integral parts would manage to get fucked up unless I did it on purpose. And I have an extra lower and carrier if something did manage to go wrong with those

My 74 is my doall

>>34626699
I was debating on a 74 when I started building my AR, but I didn't know which brands/ parts kits we're good. Which one did you go with? What's your secondary?

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>>34626800
SLR-104fr
FNX-45 Tactical

>>34626917
Very nice, how much do the Arsenal's go for these days? What made you choose the 74 over an AR? Sorry for all the questions mang

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Going to be buying some magazines for my .308 super vepr

Trying to decide between 15 round magazine or 20 rounds. (I currently just have a 5 and 10 round mag) I want to be able to shoot comfortably with it while prone. I don't have a bipod for it yet

What do you guys think? And I have to choose carefully since super vepr magazines are about $38-$41 each

>>34627000
That wood furniture though senpai. Very Nice

>>34626681
>>34626699
How is parts availability real like nigga just buy some spare parts like nigga just keep some extra around

>>34626979
AR a gay desu. You'll probably pay between 800-1050 for a 104fr right now, I paid like 600 for mine with a bunch if extras included

any good non restricted BRs in canada other than lelkek RFB?

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Post ur fuckin battle rifles

>>34627084
Hmmmm, might trade mine in. Are there any good ones available for less or is 800 par for the course?

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I just added an offset scout light and will add a magnifier next month. Plan on adding sling mounts soon, too.

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my midwest industries rail mount and vortex scope arrived today
the rings won't be here until tomorrow however

i dont really think my gun fits into the "battle rifle" category but imma post here anyways

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>>34628336
pardon my awful attempt at photoshop but here is kinda what i'm going for. I really like the wood stock and would like to keep it but i'm not a fan of the handguard

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If you aren't roller delayed I've got bad news for you son

>>34628331
Light'll really pull it together, optic is a lil big tho

>>34628312
5.45 is an expensive game to get in to. Would probably recc 7.62x39 unless you really know what you're gettin into with AKs

>>34628351
Front end convert it yo

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>>34625513
OP got bullied too hard.

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>>34628405
GT approved dawg

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>>34628418

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>>34628425
CO tripfags literally killed by GT

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>>34625513
I'll have it built in 2 (two) weeks. I'm so hype.

>>34628439
I have nothing to do with that

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>>34626531
Unless you can afford a Scar, Ar 10s and milsurp battle rifles are the way to go in MD unfortunately

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What sight and scopes do you guys have for your battle rifles?

I'm looking to get a scope with 4x magnification. Specifically a pso-1
Unless you guys have a cheaper/better recommendation?

>>34628597
PSO is pretty meh tier unless you're going for some slavic aesthetic. They're not very good at quick follow up shots

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I'm not a regular here so if I sound like a complete putz, plz frgive. I always thought G3s were pretty. Never shot one, though.

Also, not sure if a Mosin qualifies as a battle rifle but it's an absolute joy to shoot. Not super aesthetically pleasing, but a truly lovely rifle.

Anyone have any experience with >pic related?

>>34628405
>>34628418
>>34628439
Who makes this sexy beast?

>>34626526
Don't buy a M1A/M14 pattern they are shit. (Yes I own one).

>>34628772
Battle-rifle it's semi-auto (or select fire), fires a full-powered rifle cartridge and feeds from detachable magazines.

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>>34628371

>>34629418
Then don't buy CETME bullshit.

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>>34628296

just got back from some shootan

finally got the FAL shooting straight, and fixed my DSA mag so it's not shit anymore

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>>34628550
>tfw I think the Scar is sexy as hell but I can't afford a $2,000 rifle
Really wish the PTR wasn't banned. The AR-10 is looking better and better to me tho :)

>>34629418
>Cast CETME receiver
>Front 1/2" of G3 lower missing
>Expecting them to fit

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>>34629584
Don't get taken in, he posts it every thread.

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>>34629484

The stump on the hill is what we shoot at mostly. You almost can't see the target from the table.

I can hit the paper within a couple inches of the center every time, which probably isn't bad for an amateur with shitty ammo using plain iron sights.

Also to fix a shitty DSA mag, scrape the paint/finish off the feed lips with a knife or file and maybe sand it smooth. All your feeding problems will be over after that.

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>>34629484
>>34629608
That's a comfy looking range.

>>34629584
It's not even a CETME, it's an FA-91 or whatever that shit tier plastic receiver company is

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>>34629418
Ok, this meme needs to die.

This was a shitty FA91 I used to own that only worked when the lower was zip tied in place. The company that made them went bankrupt and Sakuya shitposted the webm I posted once for a year and a half because he apparently hates PTRs.

G3 clones are pretty much all fine apart from FA91s

>>34629565
>Scar
>a $2,000 rifle
what

>>34629618

Yeah the inside has a wood stove and everything.

Cozy as fuck.

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>6" .308
>~2.X" of rifling
>~1/5th-1/6th a full turn before leaving muzzle
>keyholes at 3 yards

Is this my curse as a 51K owner? I can still group great with it at 30 yards, just hitting everything sideways.

>>34629724
>>6" .308
Absolute fuckin madman

>>34629724
A .308 bullet hitting sideways is basically a 1.12 caliber bullet.
That's nearly 4x as much bullet per bullet.

>>34629807
I knew it had a silver lining.

That being said, I took it to an indoor range with a retarded loud comp and was asked to stop before three mags. It was snowing lead, paper and dust particles from the track and ceiling throughout the whole bay and knocked the T off the track to the left of me. Brass on the ground parted like the red sea.

>>34629657
Federal Ordnance was known shit, and always will be shit no matter what.

Anyone thinking this is somehow representative of all G3 clones is an idiot.

>>34629618
Nice optic m8 what is it?

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>>34630092
kek just a vortex strike eagle.

>>34630107
>All that witchin'
Skinwalker hunt kek, how do you like the variable optics? Are you gonna invest in any nicer ones?

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>>34630132
I like my strike eagle. Pretty good scope, especially at the price I got it at. Maybe next year when I have more money and nicer guns to put them on but I'd rather spend on guns I want for now.

>>34630157
Do you find it awkward to use as a 1x? I like the idea of having options but I worry it might be clunky if that makes sense

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>>34630181
Nah, it works great at 1x.

MDR soon

>>34630192
>soon
Desert Tech keeps using that word; I do not think it means what they think it means.

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>>34629828

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Anyone here know why the Smith Enterprise M14 bolt catch seems to be out of stock everywhere? I swear Fulton had them in stock like a week ago

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>>34629438
the the G3 is the CETME clone

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>>34625513
My Hakim 8mm

>>34628550
Nice Ljungman

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What kinda sidearms do you all run with your rifles? JLD PTR with a 7 shot S&W 686 here. Stronk rifle deserves a stronk sidearm.

>>34626467
PTR, simplicity über alles

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>>34626467
get a SCAR

>>34629565
The ptr in 7.62x39 is legal, not a battle rifle though. I'm going to get it after a few paychecks

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>want an a1 style upper
>the struggle is real

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>>34629565
Here's a scar 4 u

>>34630975
Give me that A1 stock

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Does anyone else create librarys of reference pictures for gun parts?

>>34628815
Mine is the LMTmws

>>34631414
gimme threefiddy

>>34631497
I'll pay your shipping

>>34631507
http://www.uscollectorsordnance.com/new-website-2017.html

>>34631542
Yea I was gonna buy from them if I wasn't selling my mod 1 upper. I want an AUG more than I want a mk12 tho

>>34631552
>AUG
thats cool shit

gotta say building ar10's from pieces requires help from the dark arts to get it running 100%. still tempted to part it out

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>>34631603
Sprong a shit desu

>>34631619
yea, i need a ptr with a gorillion mags

>>34626452
Where's all those faggots with $1,500.00 budgets who just want a "good" fal. The man is taking OBO, shipped, with five magazines fuck the rest of the extras

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>>34631635
>a ptr
I'm not a homosexual anon

>>34631680
It's not a Belgian G1, so most collectors don't really want it. It'd be a good first FAL but anyone who already has one doesn't want it

>>34628351
That looks fucking cool.

>>34629565
Lol you and all of us wish it were only $2,000.00

>>34629608
Gratz, was gonna ask aboit the mag fix. Can you clarify though from the inside right? So it'd feed? Or from the outside so it'd rock in well or whatever?

>>34629657
Whatever jackasses, most of the "g3" clones out there are century shit rifles cetme mixmaster clones which are their own flavor of fucked up.

>>34631826
Kill yourself faggot

>>34631713
Thats what I'm saying, haven't you noticed all the "I want a fal, where do I get a fal, whats a good fal?" threads lately? Well heres a good fal for all those fuckers who supposedly had the money and drive to get one but needed some direction for buying their first Br.

>>34631850
Then who would pay taxes for your programs poverty rifle activist?

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>>34631880
>implying i own a ptr
Post your BR

>>34631873
Takes forever to get a files account, if anon woulda responded I woulda helped him but rip

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Why are rails so damn tall?

>>34631983
Because there has to be a certain curve to the bottom of the handguard, and then the rail has to stand proud from that so that accessories have something to clamp onto.

>>34629828
I like you.

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>>34632083
He's a good tripfag.

>>34631713
>I'm not a homosexual anon
>Posts in BRG
I have bad news for you boyo.

LGS has a dpms ar10 for $800. Are they junk?

>>34625792
Ugly as sin rifle.

Why do you dumb retards feel the need to paint your rifles ugly ass colors and larp as rhodesian.

>>34633973
Don't Purchase Me, Stupid

>>34625513
>ptr fags eternally btfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a6cgDGhEuY&t=912s

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>>34634123
>Nutn

>>34634514
>Nutn, but it still suckn

>>34634123
>Nutnfaggot
>ever

>>34631442
Nah, post more please

>>34630705
I asked Squid for his autograph when I saw him at Walmart. You know what that little fucker did? He pulled down his pants infront of the entire store, infront of my kids! He then took a can of peas and hit my 6 year old daughter in the fucking head with it and started yelling some shit about summoning something while taking a dump on the floor. I picked up my daughter and was making sure she was ok and when I turned around Squid was pissing on his shit. He plopped down on the ground and started to rub the piss shit on his dick then ran over and smacked me with his shit and piss covered dick and said it was his autograph. Then he started to chase people with his shit covered dick and when the police showed up he had no pants on, covered in shit and was acting like nothing happened. The fucker was just walking down isle 4 looking at breakfest cereal and he told the cops that I attacked him and that he has PTSD from playing the combat simulator Call of Duty. So the cops arrested me, took my daughter to CPS and towed my fucking car.

Seriously fuck that guy.

>>34630530
someone might have bought them

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>>34625513
>USMC '64-'68'.
> Rumored the DoD was considering the FLN as the combat rifle for U.S. forces after the M-1 was phased out.
>Instead, we got this to standardize 7.62 cal. throughout the services.

>>34636863
Is dis pasta

>>34637527
>>34637527
and all ended well because we chose and made a pretty good rifle basd on a nostalgic action which, while hard to make, can perform quite well

>>34638430
>a pretty good rifle that we dumped in record time because of how objectively shit it was

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>>34638492
Never forget what could have been.

>>34625792
That may be the worst paint job I have ever seen on /k/. Jesus Christ, man.

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>>34638566

>>34625792
can you kys already and stop posting here you attention seeking faggot.

(you)

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A-ausfag here, can I participate if my rifle takes M1A magazines?

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>>34638566
>>34638580
Fun fact that I just realized: despite having some inch pattern features, the T48 took metric mags.

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How bad of an idea would this be to shoot one handed?

>>34639189
Short barreled .308s don't kick very hard because there isn't enough barrel length to get the bullet up to speed and generate the same recoil as a full-size gun.
Go ahead, knock yourself out.

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Hot new stock

>>34639189
its fine you pussy

Is there anything actually wrong with a DSA voyager if I just want an FAL to have an FAL? Everything I've found that's negative about them has been speculation about the cast receiver as opposed to a forged one. I haven't been able to find any actual concrete complaints about their performance, and while I can find similar deals on FAL Files such as the rifle anon posted above, those aren't backed by any sort of warranty, and I'm pretty much taking someone's word for it that his parts kit build will work really well and not give me any problems whereas the voyager is made by an actual large-scale manufacturer with a good reputation except for a few QC issues back when they first started making their own parts.

>>34640064
For the same cost you can get a much better rifle, that's literally why

>>34640064
In fact, the reviews I've seen have been positive, but whatever someone posts one here, all I see is "LOL ENJOY YOUR CAST RECEIVER PLEB"

>>34640098
But where? I know builds sell on the FAL Files for $100 more or so, but again, that's one person's build for which I have no recourse if something fails. And what's so good about the builds people sell besides forged receivers? Have cast receivers actually been documented to fail prematurely, or is it all speculation?

>>34640135
>better receiver
>better barrel
>better furniture
I've handled a Voyager, it just felt cheap and shitty. The FAL market is dominated by kits, so if you want to avoid them then that's your goto but I will tell you it's the wrong move

FN used to make cast type III receivers as well and they were rated for a lower round count than type I and II forged as well, but if you're buying a voyager you'll never hit that round count, so it's just a matter of it actually being in spec rather than the lemons DSA puts out

>>34640135
Much better barrels and in spec parts.

>>34640156
Fair enough. Is there anything to look out for when I'm looking at a build someone is selling? I saw the rifle another anon posted last night and am waiting for my account to activated to contact the seller, but I've never owned a battle rifle, so I feel as though I'm kind of going in blind and just saying, "oh wow looks cool great"

>>34628823
A dude I know got suckered in to dropping 1200 bucks on a Norinco M1A. That thing can't get through an entire magazine without a FTF to save it's life.

>>34640174
I wanted a SCAR for the longest time and was saving for one until word started to spread that SOCOM is ditching them, so now that they longer have the muh navy SEALs cool factor to justify the fact that they're double the price of an FAL, I've started to want an FAL or PTR, and having shot a CETME, I think I'd much prefer an FAL.

>>34629565
>He thinks the SCAR 17 is only $2k...
LaughingWhores.jpg

>>34640174
Head space and barrel timing is about it, maybe the locking shoulder but if it's all staying together you can be sure it's all correct. Putting together an FAL is only moderately harder than an AR

>>34640234
Alright thanks. I'll keep looking on FAL files then. I also saw a nice Argentinian para build, but the G1 the other anon posted seems like a better deal.

>>34633973
They are case to case. Inspect it before buying and try to talk down the price.

>>34640271
Dollar for dollar the Argentine is about the same value as the G1. I think someone is about to pick up the G1 though

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SVD would made a kick ass battle rifle
> full length rifle weigh 3.9kg
>0.3 MOA
>bayonet lugs
>4x optic

Can any PTRfags help me out? I ordered one and it's been able to eject a round exactly once in about 25 rounds. The first few rounds I simply had to cycle it manually but today at the range I had to mortar the thing twice just to get the brass out. I read some stuff about a break in period but I don't see myself mortaring the gun for 200-300 rounds.
I've tried several different mags with147gr PMC and 150gr Winchester. There's nothing wrong with the brass other than the flute marks are a bit deep.

>>34626531
I just want a PTR 91, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK.
"Well just get a PTR 32 in the wrong caliber anon"
NO

>>34640282
Too bad you'll never touch a real one

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>>34640531
You can get close enough.

>>34640475
Reach into the receiver
Scrape out the shit in the roller cutouts with your fingernail

Worked for my PTR.

Alternatively, go buy a set of feeler gauges from an auto store and check your PTR's bolt gap (google how, manual should have acceptable bolt gap sizes). Make sure there isn't a headspacing issue

>>34633973
shop new fool, they're about $200 less on various sites due to a rebate.

>>34640156
>>34640162
you are both retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao77XBDNIqc

if you were members of the files or actually did any research you'd know what this man says which is basically DSA bought the technical data/blueprints and machines to build from austria so they are in fact in spec.

as for barrels, a lot of kits don't come with barrels anymore and wont be imported with barrels because lol laws and the barrels you do get are used sooo how long of a round count can you estimate on a kit that was used then bought and used and probably shot with steel then sold over?

>>34640730
>sa58
>voyager
Just delete this post before more people see how retarded you are

>>34640730
If you were a member of the files, you'd see how many fucking threads there are about out of spec receiver issues coming from DSA. Haveing the blueprints and machines doesn't matter if you can't use them right. DSA's rep R1shooter is a fucking joke on the files and gets laughed out of threads whenever he comes in blatantly shilling and making shit up.

>>34640638
Thanks I'll try both of those. The serial on the receiver also does not match the one on the bolt, is this normal for PTRs?

>>34641108
Post pics of the bolt and your receiver rollmark, don't need the receiver serial number in the pic, just the rollmark and maybe serial prefix

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>>34625792
is that fucking house paint oh my god

>>34641468
Wait, are you responding to: >>34641387

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>>34641484
Negative, just posting pictures of my rifle.

>>34629618
I have the exact same optic and mount set-up. How are you getting proper eye-relief with the stock at that position? I have to move it to the third notch from fully collapsed to see without pushing my neck forward like a hunchback.

>>34641108
>The serial on the receiver also does not match the one on the bolt, is this normal for PTRs?

Yes. Unless they've changed their production process to make bolts and receivers match since moving to SC, you'll never have matching serial numbers.

>>34630975
Are those hand guards thinner than A2 hand guards, or is it just the lighting?

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>>34641387
receiver serial is AW20XXX if that means anything

>>34626526
FAL
no question

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>>34630107
What are the 2nd from left and 3rd from left? Those guns are hot

Also is that a /k/ meetup?

>>34640741
So you're saying the sa58 is a good rifle? A good fal, better than the voyager?
But it has a cast receiver also dipshit!!! Fuck. You better stop talking like you know shit before you get btfo

>>34640785
Any Dsa fal is fine, it's just their mags that suck. Man shut the fuck up they have a general where its stated cast or forged it doesnt matter its just a dick measuring contest. Only in production receivers I read are fucked are coonan. Ive never encountered the dsa rep in years of lurking or as a member.

You guys are parroting old shit that is on par with fuddlore. What most faggots say makes ptr great is what dsa has and they go unrecognized. I don't see ptr making rifles for any other country or military. The fal market should boom with stupid magpul accessories but you fear mongering faggots with your ignorance and broke bank accounts kill any possibility of a good following. The moses mag is dead and so is the acr stock adapter. The fal has the best possibility for modernization and modularity out of the big three but its a stagnant ignorant market thanks to loudmouth know nothings like you two.

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Anyone know what could cause something like this to happen? I went to break in my PTR today and had no issues up until around the 200 round mark, at which point I switched from brass M80-spec 7.62 to Hornady Steel Match .308. I had a couple of magazines go follower-down like this, and a couple of failure to feeds where the round jammed itself into the barrel extension that I'm assuming are related.

>>34642367
>sa58s have never been made with forged receivers
>sa58s were never made with austrian parts kits
Oh no, it's retarded

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>>34641468
>>34641522
I know they get shit on alot but mine works fine, how about yours? Any issues? Only issue ive had is mag related and one simple fix where the ejector retaining mount was bent and I had to bend it back. It would cause this to happen occasionally.

>>34642374
How'd you do that one? Seems like a oddball mag failure

>>34642403
>>sa58s have never been made with cast receivers
>>sa58s were never made with 100% u.s. parts

Sweet jesus man. If you would have put your fucking fidget spinner down for 15 mins and watched a portion of the video you wouldn't look like the retard you are.

Look everyone an optimistic retard, that's a retard who doesn't think they're retarded.

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>>34642423
Hell if I know. I figured it was just a weird one-off too, but I loaded a single round in a different mag, fired it, then ejected the mag and found this. I only got this issue when I loaded the mag with a single round, so I have to assume that's related to the issue.

Mag springs and followers seemed to be fine. First mag was a HK 1969, second one was HK 1990. Popped the floorplate off, reseated the follower, loaded the mags with ten rounds, and both went through them just fine aside from the aforementioned FTFs.

>>34642418
Well I picked up my C308 on the sale + rebate at classic and so far it's been great.
Put 100 rounds through it the other day and broke it in. Eats Tula and PPU M80 juts fine, and shoots accurate as well.
The only thing I don't like is the forearm, its too thin and has no headshield so I'm gonna buy one with a heatshield and paint it to match.

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>>34631889
Fine. Sup

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>>34642438
Weird, this forged receiver built with an Stg58 parts kit must be fake then

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>>34642456
You really are fucking retarded arent you. Pic related. Not all sa58's are like yours dumbass.

>>34642489
Wow it's almost like that's exactly what I fucking said beforehand you brain dead fucking retard

I want a PTR for sure
Are there any caveats i should know before buying?

>>34642506
People will make fun of you, but it's a decent rifle otherwise

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http://www.armslist.com/posts/4168723/nova-rifles-for-sale--fn-fal

how does this make you all feel?

>>34642510
Well i dont have enough to invest in any authentic german stuff but i want a similar patterned battle rifle. Sounds like PTR is the best way to go

>>34627000
shit nigga i thought that was a hadar at first lmao

>>34642520
Other than a budget AR-10 it's one of the cheapest but still quality ways to get into battle rifle, so if it fits you go for it

>>34642510
And i mean specific issues i should look for while buying PTRs

>>34642528
Well i dont own one but i shot an AR platform forever when i was in the military and i want to get something in the g3 pattern.

>>34642528
as far as buying used. you have any advice as far as model or pricing?

>>34642493
Except its the opposite. What the fuck is the matter with you?

>>34642506
It'll chew through steel case like its cool which will make any other BR owner jelly. You can shoot twice as much as most of us for steel prices.

>>34642540
New ones are like 1k, I wouldn't bother with used unless it was like 750 for the rifle, maybe 800 with a lot of accessories. The only choice to make is if you want to use a modern optic or not, they have one with a pic rail mounted to the top amd one that's classic. Also make sure you get a paddle release

>>34642527
Bruh we all wish. I wish to see pics and vid or webms of them doing their thing in the wild.

>>34642545
>say some retarded shit about the sa58
>put words into my mouth that i never even came close to saying
>"not all sa58s had cast receivers and us parts"
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>"here's my forged sa58"
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Just stop you fucking mongoloid, you're literally trying to argue with me about something you said

>>34642548
>>34642552
I'll admit to having a preference for the german-style BRs
What are the advantages and disadvantages you think exist towards other contemporary stuff?

>>34642548
>>34642552
I've used the AR platform exclusively as far as semi-auto rifles are concerned and i have a lot of interest in BR stuff.

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>>34642575
You'd really have to shoot all of them to know, and I can admit I've never shot a G3, only handled them at shows and shit. Shot the other majors though, and I have to say FAL is my favorite, has the best ergos and least complicated internals of all the majors. One thing most people can agree on is G3 ergos are pretty garbo unless you have some major arm reach. However it's the second cheapest option and much much cheeper to keed fed between steel case and 2 dollar mags. You should ideally just own them all though

>>34642583
Is this two different people asking about PTRs?

>>34642592
No, same person. Most of my experience is with the A4 and IAR so i wouldnt imagine ergos would be too different. Enlighten me if otherwise

>>34642608
Just look at the design of a G3, charging handle and mag release location mostly, try to find one to handle in person if possible

>>34642616
Thanks, the mag release seems especially difficult now that i look at it

>>34642627
I'd suggest watching Polenar Tactical's G3 operator vid too, good info there on G3 basics

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Anyone else waiting on a can?

>>34642627
Dont mean to ask for spoonfeeding but do you have any insight on handguns as well?

>>34642636
What type of insight?

>>34642638
Looking for mid-high range CC firearm
Preferably german

>>34642640
P2000SK is the gun I want to try out myself actually, I know someone who had a P30 though and apparently the way the lever was designed he just couldn't not accidentally hold it down, causing it to not lock open on last shot. Not sure if it carries over to the p2000 but definitely something to be wary of

Cool, you got a throwaway i could ask you questions on?

>>34642650
Yea sure, if you really want to. I'm about to head to bed so if you send some emails I'll just get to them when I wake up

>>34642660
sounds good thanks for the help

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>>34642562
You said the voyager a shit because of cast receiver. Sa 58 for the win. I showed you a pic from DSA site where a sa58 like most sa58 nowadays and for a long time shows it has a cast receiver. I ask is sa 58 shit? What is your rebuttal? Are sa58 shit now? Are you too retarded to measure on any scale?

>>34642679
>Sa 58 for the win
Show me where I said this then CG

>>34642575
Modularity. Grips, grip angle, rails, muzzlebreaks, you dont have to weld shit on ar10's receivers, you can swap barrels with your hands if you're not a bitch.stocks. stocks. Stocks. Optics that wont bust your knuckle because of a cool but not friendly charging handle. Last round automatic bold hold open.Accuracy. weight. Accuracy.accuracy.Literally the only thing hk pattern 308 rifles have going for them is mags. Cheap beat up surplus mags.

You can get a good ar10 for $600 new if you look around. The other big three need softer ammo and cant jist shoot any .308 especially steel. Ar10 and ptr are the only cheap to feed br's.

>>34640741
>>34642690
Do you deny that in first post linked you're point is that the sa58 is better than the voyager?

>>34642706
>the sa58 is not the voyager
Reading is hard innit

>>34642716
> yes/no question,avoiding the question.

I win gg faggot.fuck you bitch.

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>>34642728
>oh no, i just realized i entirely misread the post and didn't realize voyagers were different rifles than sa58s
>better spout some more retarded shit instead of owning up to my mistake!

>>34642701
Ive shot ARs a bunch and honestly im most comfortable with them...
Im more asking about the BRs that arent ARA
because... reasons

>>34642072
Those are my AR and PTR. Yes, that pic is from an NC meet.

>>34625792
WHIRTY DHORE?

>>34625792
>you've been fucking that Russian chick again, havent you?

Is that a 5.45 FAL?

>>34625792
>Jamaican flag camo
For what purpose?

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>>34641444
Car paint, if he's doing it right.

>>34643679
>he doesn't know about Rhodieflage

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>>34631813

Scrape the inside of the edge of the feed lips so the brass can slide easier.

On my new DSA mags I found every other shot was getting hung up right at the neck of the brass because the shit is painted on the inside. Just get a pocket knife and scrape it to the metal, then sand or file it smooth. It'll feed fine from there on.

>>34642439
Is the bolt hitting the top of the follower or something?

>>34625792
Post dress

>>34626531
Saw a pre-ban STG58 on armslist a few weeks back. Bmore county here.

>>34628351
I'm not sure whether I want to Zenitco my Vepr 5.45 or my 54R first. This post is making me lean towards the latter more than the former now.

>>34640282
>SVD
>0.3 MOA

Top zozzle, mon amigo

>>34626531
Do what I'm doing and build a G3 clone around a Cetme C's guts to out-jew annapolis

>>34626467
If you want cheap and effective, AR-10.

If you want history and you're a centrist, PTR.

If you want history and you're left wing, PSL.

If you want history, and you're not left wing, FAL.

If you have a bit more cash than an AR-10 costs laying around and want something really good, kel-tec RFB. See if you can find one with a 24 inch barrel.

>>34644339
>not including M14/Garand variants
>not including the SCAR
>not including other AK pattern BRs
>not including the SVT40

>>34644339
>no M1A
why?

>>34643999
That's my best guess. This all happened with 155 gr Steel Match but never occurred with 147 gr M80 of various manufacture. If I had to guess I'd say the ejection was more violent than normal, causing the bolt to slip over the follower and pull it up like that, but the bolt always closed fully whenever it did it. Only happened on two mags out of about 7-8 loadings though, and only with the Steel Match.

I'm hoping it won't pop up again since I have no intention of buying Hornady steel ever again (I found it on clearance for like .40 cents/round), but I'm still trying to sort out exactly what happened.

>>34625513
I have an m1a in the walnut stock and I notice that after 80+ rounds ny gun starts smoking. Is there a faster way to cool this thing down? I was thinking of getting a vented barrel cover on the top but is there anything else I can do to cool it off faster? I don't want to ruin my wood

>>34644742
Did you fire it in full auto with a 80rd drum?

>>34644785
No I mean this is over like 30m to a half hour

>>34644742
Is the rifle new? It could be the oils on the piston/barrel/oprod cooking off. Try using grease instead of CLP.

>>34644796
What kind of ammo are you shooting? My PTR will start smoking after about 20 rounds when I get it to the range, but part of that is just lubricant burning off. After that it'll smoke a fair bit less unless I switch from brass to lacquered steel ammo.

I shot one steel round through my gun after a couple hundred rounds of brass and it threw up so much smoke I thought I had an out of battery strike. I even had smoke coming out of my damn selector switch since it burned off all the lacquer.

>>34644824
Yea it is very new I've put maybe 400 rounds through it so far and I clean it gently once every 100rds with hops and my brass brush

>>34644831
I use PPU

I have a gun grease and I don't use oil really.

When I saw smoke I thought it was my wood. When I look down the sights my barrel was radiating heat to such a degree that it was heavily distorting the heat and I couldn't see my target very well

What type of cost are we looking at to do a proper FAL build, imbel receiver and whatever parts kit as well as the FAL specific tools?

I don't plan on getting a BR soon but I've been leaning towards a PTR since it is more practical and reasonably priced, but in reality I like the FAL more. Might get a bolt gun for fudd things and long range, but if I could hit steel at 600-700 yards with either a ptr or FAl id be happy

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>>34644890
My total build cost with an Imbel kit and receiver is about $1200. I could have saved about $100 or so with getting a couple things cheaper but I'm not complaining. You could also use a DSA or Coonan receiver for a few hundred bucks cheaper but you have a bit more risk of having some spec issues. I'm really pleased with doing a build though, it's fun.

I do love my PTR though so that's a very good alternative if you don't want to do a build.

>>34644890
Gunplumber kits with barrel are about 550 and a good forged receiver will run you about 5-600. Add 2-300 for building.

>>34644890
Would recc just buying a built kit for a little over 1k, either that or an imbel kit on imbel receiver is the first stepping stone for a lot of people >>34644952

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>>34644339
>if you've saved more than it costs for a good FAL and you want to shitpost on /k/, SCAR 17

>>34645257
>If you want to flush almost as much money as a mint OG HK91 costs down the toilet to get yet another mediocre plastic operator rifle, SCAR 17

FTFY

>>34644974
Another $150 give or take for 922r parts if sending to builder.

Also it's gonna cost more if you want the rifle to have any kind of finish put on it. While many argue it being a matter of taste remember a good finish does protect your guns from rust senpai.

>>34645598
$5 enamel rustoleum matches Imbel paint perfectly.

>>34645630
No way, thats badass. Hahaha i didn't wanna suggest the option of rhodie camo to the new guy lmao.

>>34645598
>922r
If the ATF is bugging me about 922r parts then odds are I am already in deep shit

>>34645678
Yeah, it's pretty great.

http://www.l1a1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357410

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PIK1YC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Flandre said that's the same paint he uses.

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I picked up these HK 30 rounders from some guy on Armslist for $10 each, he said he bought them in 92, and two still have factory grease on them.

I have a feeling they are worth significantly more than $10.

>>34646105
nice. those are pretty sexy

Whats the brg consensus on the PA10?

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen2-pa10-18-mid-length-308-win-nitride-classic-rifle-516446285.html

>>34645322
How do those grapes taste?

>>34648065
I'm a Belgiboo and I don't really get that hard for the SCAR either desu

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>>34648065
I was disapppointed when the one I shot malfunctioned after the first shot.

>>34648065
Like you paid too much for your waffle-flavored ACR.

The SCAR is a great gun, but there's no way in hell it's worth more than $2k when a Nemo or GAP-10 will literally shoot circles around it and the .308 builds from your favorite high speed/low drag overpriced operator manufacturers will wreck it in terms of durability/reliability.

It's like spending $70k on a 5-series. Sure, everyone else knows that you spent some dough on it, but it's neither the fastest nor the most luxurious thing you can buy at that price point, so you're going to get wrecked at the stoplight by your neighbor and his Chevy SS [the dude at the tactical shooting class with the operator-core AR10 build] while your wife still complains to you about how it isn't as nice inside as her friend's husbands E-class is [you getting your shit pushed in at the range by the dude with the Nemo or the GAP-10].

Meanwhile, you've just spent a shitton of money that you (hopefully) could easily afford in the first place on something that's really not that special, something that you're still going to see all the time, while for a mere ~20% more, you could have bought something REALLY offensive that just screams "I have more money than you" and can drive circles around your car like a 911, an i8, an R8, or an S Class Coupe [the mint HK91 built into a 1MOA/sub-MOA SG/1 clone or the .300 WinMag Nemo].

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Okay I know they are shit, but how shit are these new C308's because at $440 after rebate it is really compromising my judgement. Are the 6 moa guns like I've heard?

>>34648262
The SCAR isn't designed to compete with the likes of the Nemo or GAP-10.

>>34648112
i was also disappointed by the scar17 (although i had zero malfunctions). i blame the internet for hyping it up so much and myself for believing the hype.

>>34648293
Nothing Century produces is good. That's pretty much a rule.

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>>34648330
Kek, it really did malfunction but I'm pretty sure the gas was adjusted for suppressors since it seemed like it was short stroking.

>>34638492
>because it was shit
>not because the battlerifle was found to be an outdated concept for most applications and the m14 just happened to be the service battlerifle at the time
m14 platform is still being used in special roles because its a good rifle, faggot. the problem wasnt with the m14 itself, it was with the concept of using a full-powered cartridge for all combat roles

>>34640064
>an FAL
maybe an hero you tremendous faggot

>>34641699
shit, anon. that serial means you're gay

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>>34648784
>saying fal instead of FAL

>>34648811
>saying S E A L instead of seal
you're a special kind of retard, LOL
anyone who hears you spelling out pronounceable acronyms in NATO phonetic alphabet instantly recognizes that you're on the spectrum

>>34648889
>man don't buy a fal get a peter
There are people who ACTUALLY say this!

>>34648900
>being gay
>being wrong
pick 2, you wrong faggot

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>>34648905
Do you own an AR15 matey?

>>34648739
I love my M1a in walnut, I just wish it cooled down faster so I could fire more than 80 rounds without it appearing to smoke. Next time it goes to smoke I should try and smell for any wood burning scents to see if its actually my wood

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What's the cheapest way to put an m14 in this stock? I don't want to pay $1300 for a springfield.

>>34648905
So do you say usp as a word too then you mouthbreathing retard

>>34648941
the cheapest way? any used receiver, barrel, trigger group and everything you can try to find on armslist or gunbroker I guess

But even then for the amount of money you're gonna blow you'd be better off getting an AR-10

>>34648948
>he doesnt protect his asp
at least im still breathing, retard

>>34648927
yeah i even have a LASER on my underrail
mongloids, the lot of you

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>>34648966
>within 3 posts
This is what happens when you say things like UMP, AUG, and FAL as a word

>>34649007
>lmao my one example of where nobody says uhhsp instead of USP proves that i am irrefutably correct
not an argument, fag [because i have more examples than you]

>>34648952
So am I better off selling the stock?
How much does an M14e2 stock with the butt plate and foregrip go for?

>>34649027
AR15
AK(variant)
SR3M
PKM
PKP
SV98
RDB
RFB
KSG
PTR
MP(x)
AWM
MCX
FNX
FNP
FNS
Every RRA and RIA gun
FNC
How many do you want

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>>34649073
>being autistic

>>34649084
>I lost so I'll just insult him instead
Not even him but that's fucking funny.

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>>34649084
Top kek, this >>34649099

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>>34649099
>not him
t. him

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>>34649111
Keep digging deeper

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>>34649118
>going deeper on the spectrum

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>>34649137
>when you're so autistic you can't even handle being wrong about the pronunciation of acronyms on a japanese image sharing forum

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>>34649150
>imblyign it isnt you who was wrong

>>34649156
> >>34649073

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>>34649169
>>34649084

>>34630157
your dog looks ill.

>>34638430
I've used all the US Service small arms up to 1978, only one that failed me was da-16

>>34647967
Its a fucking ar10 thats built. No worries about mixing spec shit all that works done for you. Just swap the furniture as you wish and shoot whatever fucking ammo you want. You could afford a nice scope with the money you save. Whats there to think about? Its a big ar15 you can do most work/replacements on it with little to no tools.

What do you guys shoot? Ammo wise? Just whatever you find? If you buy 308 do you just make sure it has similar grains to 7.62x51?

>>34649902
either wolf 308 (because its 36cpr shipped from SG) or zqi bc its 50 cpr brass (after tax) from walmart. both work great, the zqi can be surprisingly accurate

>>34628331
I just looked this thing up and I want one now. Any issues?

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>>34628331

I keep wanting to buy one, then I think about headspacing and a catastrophic failure inches from my face and into both of my wrists. If I owned one, I would probably shoot it enough where headspacing will become an issue.

TFW I'll never own one, but I want one.

>>34649073
ayyarr fiffdeen
Ay kay fordy sevin or sevendy fore
Sir threem
Pick em
Pee kip
Sev nine dee ate
Arr dib
Kiss jee
Peter
Mipp five
Awwm
Misseex
Finnix
finnp
finnis
Rrraah and ria
Fink

>>34649928
Is the zqi marked 7.62x51 nato or 308? What are you shooting it out of? Thats better than yhe last three gunstores I visited in my area. $~17 a box for nato m80 spec 7.62x51 and stupid expensive for .308 because the .308 I find is always some hunting ammo type of thing.

>>34650303
>zqi
zicky

>>34625513
What rifle is this?

>>34650043
kek

It is pronounced F A L, but shit nigger you took the bait way too hard. /k/ really is the easiest board to troll

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>>34650344

>>34650321
African spelling
Z!i

The ! Is supposed to be an audible click hahahahaha

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Is it worth it?

>>34650604
That guy from InRange seems to like his.

>>34648262
>bitter
>poor

You're comparing the accuracy of a battle rifle to precision boutique semi-auto rifles. If your life was in danger and you could only have one rifle, would you seriously choose a .300WM Nemo or a GAP-10?

Type out another wall of text and tell me how I'm wrong. I'll be outside doing shit that matters.

>>34650604
>Century

Save a few more shekels and get a AR-10. Save a few more, and get a PTR. Save 2.5x that, and get a SCAR. Just don't buy a Century.

>>34650646
I already have an fal I don't shoot enough, but a friend is interested in this deal. I'd normally say the same thing when it comes to century, but at $440 it's hard to ignore.

>>34650646
>a few more shekels
Show me where you are getting these AR-10s for close to $450

>>34650762
Jesus man how fucking poor are you!? Ar10's are around $100 more. Dpms or psa which are both good to go, talk about a few shekels for some more quality goddamn. How much fucking handholding do you need? You have a smartphone or a computer of sorts asshole literally google it.
Yeah its a rebate so what, you get it back later so what, save the shekels bitch thats the thing.

>>34650321

"Zih-kwhy"

>>34652482
>>34652482
>>34652482