Just watched Dunkirk... and now I'm confused

>>34622885
Just look up how many people escaped and how long they did it in. Make up your own mind. Don't let hollywood tell you.

Both? Dunkirk isn't one beach, its a big 6 mile stretch of land comprising of like 3 separate beaches. Not everyone got off in the same place.

>>34622885
>FIVE
>MINUTE
>CONTINUOUS
>SINGLE
>TAKE
nothing will ever beat atonement

elves sail avay from middleearth to their elven lands

>>34622917
Gondor was an inside job

>>34622915
>Nolan picked the most boring and empty stretch
Bravo.

why dd bane land his plane so fucking far from the beach everyone was at and into enemy held beach?

>>34623230
It was a big plane

>>34622885

wasted tons of money in marketing like they do for vidya

>>34623244
For you

>>34623244
I will admit, some of the small details in the movie were pretty neat. The little shaking of the plane during turns for one.

>>34622885
The movie is so fictional it could have been named Barcelona or Miami instead. Don't bother with such silly detail.

>>34623259
What was the next step in his master plan?

>>34622885
Atonement has a shoehorned black guy in it so I dont trust its accuracy

>>34623462
Dunkirk has several.

>>34623527

How unrealistic.

>ITT buttmad nazi manchildren get upset when they are forcibly reminded of the large and valuable contributions of the African community to the Dunkirk evacuation
The forces at Dunkirk were at least 30% black, this is FACT.

>>34623443
Shitting up this beach...

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>>34623593
Lol.

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>>34623593
W O K E
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>>34623593
I don't remember there were colonial troops at Dunkirk, but I could be wrong.

>>34623294
>The movie is so fictional

>Dunkirk never happened
>German shipped BEF home
>Britain surrenders
>de Gaulle + Eisenhower win ww2
>1946 Britain freed from German occupation

Think you've had that tinfoil hat on too long, maybe time for a fresh one!

>>34622885
Lots of the accounts from people who were there speak of quiet, orderly queues for the boats and not much of the general chaos that Atonement depicts.

Though I'd say there were examples of both on the beaches.

>>34622885
Found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6C5P-AYGdY
kek no wonder the beaches were quiet.

>>34623670
There actually were. Gerry even wrote reports of the ones taken prisoner.

>>34623443
>not 'was getting caught part of his plan?'
wasted opportunity

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>>34623527
as far as I remember they were all French troops though, and actually looked like they came from the colonies and not the NFL like BF1

>>34623230
He didn't fly so good.

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>>34624220
Speaking of France. Did it portray them in a positive light or go full on stereotype

>>34623260
They used the same sound effects from Interstellar.

>>34623230
Getting caught was part of his plan.

>>34623593
WE

>>34624278
Better than I thought they would. Then again, you only really see them two or three times, and not for very long. It's implied that they're doing most of the fighting off-screen while the Brits are on the beach.

Don't know how sensitive /k/ is to very minor spoilers, so I'd rather not say more.

>>34624278
I hope they did the French troops justice since they played a pretty pivotal role in the evacuation.

Listen to this account of the remaining French soldiers watching the last ship leave:
https://youtu.be/XXYij5JxC-M?t=180
Pure Kino right there.

>>34624338
Forgot timestamps don't work

3:00

>>34624278
For what I've heard, the movie doesn't show much french people at all, if any past the first 5minutes.
The movie is about some british soldiers, not the battle of Dunkirk.

If only photos from the evacuation existed...

>>34624332

It is a historical event. You can't possibly spoil the facts.

>>34622885
>Hollywood
The answer of course, is that both are wrong. How old are you son?

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I'll spot you guys exactly five pics from the real thing.

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>>34622885
just another shitty movie by hollywood

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Off to Dunkirk to pick up soldiers. Some of those 'ships' can't have been able to pick up more than three or four soldiers each.

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Royal Ulster Rifles

5/5

>>34624332
I don't car so go ahead

>>34624324
WUZ

>>34624929
This looks pretty spot on in the movie

>>34624332

>history has spoilers now

>>34624940
>Some of those 'ships' can't have been able to pick up more than three or four soldiers each.
Oh ye of little faith. Just get some lines.

>>34625570
SOLDJAS

>>34624862
>>34625676
>inb4 Dunkirk is a crypto-bolchevik hoax

>>34624278
It was decent, it showed how they stayed behind to hold off the Germans from the beach as long as possible. There is some other French guys in it too.

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so you are flying around in your Spitfire when this nigga slaps your DD waifu on the ass, what do you do?

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>>34626155
Crash the Heinkel with no survivors

>>34622916
Thats p cool, but not that long for a "single take" that definitely contained some sneaky edits

>>34624278
The French aren't shown much, but their role is explicitly acknowledged and the British unfairness towards them is also.

Surprisingly, the role of the Dutch Navy is also briefly acknowledged.

>>34623230
>>34623244
>>34623259
>>34624221
>>34624316

sometimes the collective genius of /k/ is astounding

>>34625763
The deaths on the beach were mostly typhus victims and starvation caused by food shortages as the result of RAF attacks on German relief convoys.

Spitfires mocked up as Stukas were used in staged photographs to create the Dunkike Lie. Redpill yourself asap.

>>34625762
AN SHEEEEEEEEEEEIT

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>>34623718
Orderly queues are a pillar of British civilisation. Anyone who skips the queue would be subject to looks, or even tutting.

>the scene where they come under fire in the city
>protagonist frantically trying to cycle the bolt of his SMLE
>it keeps fucking locking

every enfield owner knows this feel, why wasn't there a trigger warning for us?

>>34625763
French Beaches aren't even real, Churchill ordered sand to be dumped on the rocky coast of France and killed all Frenchmen who opposed it
Wake up sheeple

>>34624919
Isn't that from the 1958 movie?

>>34626498
>"we will fight them on the beaches"
>retreats from the beach

Churchill's lies were so transparent it's breathtaking.

>>34623675
You know there's no proof Hitler ever existed as a person. Where's his family for interviews? Where's his gravestone? The Nazis existed, but Hitler was a fabrication of Antonio Gramsci about the rise of fascism in those regions. He was basically Germany's Jesus.

>>34626518

Not to my knowledge. I tried to find the real stuff. This is my source for this particuar picture:
https://www.phactual.com/11-facts-about-operation-dynamo-the-dunkirk-evacuation/

>>34626611
Don't be fucking stupid, Hitler was real, but he was Austrian. It's Germany that doesn't exist.

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>>34626498
The real truth is that the beaches are bone dust... From the holocaust. Turns out the holocaust was real but the lie is that it was completely successful. ALL the Jews are dead. The ones in Israel and else where are brainwashed poles

>>34626536

Churchill was a great orator, not a great military leader. Some of the things he said and did were astoundingly foolish. But the British people knew that perfectly well and supported him anyway. This was after all the Navy secretary who came up with the Gallipolli attack of WW1.

>opening scene
>guy runs past the French barricade in contact with the German advance guard, turns a corner and is on the beach

Was the front line really THAT close to the beach or is this artistic license?

>>34626518
Yeah my grandad was a veteran of the film shoot

>>34626653
No, idiot. The Holocaust was 100% faked. The secret is that the Germans are the ones who faked it, to conceal the truth that they were working with International Jewry the whole time.

>>34626493
>every enfield owner knows this feel, why wasn't there a trigger warning for us?

rimlock only happens to scrubs.

The british people fought to destroy western civilization, destroy their empire, turn their country into a totalitarian big brother socialist shithole

I'd say they got exactly what they fought for, in both WW1 & WW2

It's no surprise that the liberals glorify both these disastrous pointless wars.

>>34626684
>germany chimped out, again, and went on its rampage of killing white people, again
>britain was in treaties with the countries germany invaded
>went to war with them

HURR WHY BRITAIN HURT MEIN PLANS

>>34626666
>those digits

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>>34626684
>mein gott, mein gott, zis is ein nudder dolchstoss!
>quickly, hans, remind them about Versailles and the six trillion reichsmarks!

>>34626698
This modern world is exactly what these scum fought for & then voted for.
So that Brits/Americans/French/Canadians/etc could be turned into a minority in their own country.
What business is it of Britain when Germany is settling their border disputes with neighboring countries?
UK was the primary cause of both World Wars, and the only power that actually WANTED to fight them.

>>34626730
Take a look at the map of the world in 1939 fucking retard, then see how far your claims of "Germany trying to take over the world" go

>Germany might threaten our position in the world! Time to suicide our empires just to stop that!

Whites were 1/4 of the worlds population 100 years ago
Today we are like 2% of the population of breeding age women.

We would have been better off if all these brainwashed sheep at Dunkirk had died, at the end of the day they fought for the destruction of Western civilization.

>>34626743
So then explain the invasions of Poland, Belgium, France, Norway, North Africa, and the USSR. Or the proposed invasion of England and alliance with Japan (Who was waging their own war of aggression to gain land and resources)
Naziboos are the biggest group of Dindus on this site.

>Der Fuhrer was a good boy, he just wanted to take picture and reclaim our land
>The (((allies))) are war criminals who played unfairly and ganged up on us
>Never forget the million who died in Dresden!

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>>34626757
>>34626743

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>>34626743
>>34626757
Oh fuck off. You started a fight, got your asses kicked, and then act like sore losers.
Unless you got a machine that lets us see the alternate reality, shut up.

>>34626743
>Take a look at the map of the world in 1939 fucking retard, then see how far your claims of "Germany trying to take over the world" go
The world? No, they were trying to take over Europe. This was explicitly Hitler's goal. He believed it was necessary to unite the resources and peoples of Europe under German direction so that the continent would not fall behind the United States, which was rapidly dominating global trade because - in Hitler's analysis - it had a vast advantage over Europe in population density, usable land and internal markets which a divided Europe did not.

>>34626802
*note that I'm not saying Hitler's reasoning was sound, because it wasn't. Germany in the postwar world, even with half the country torn away, still ended up achieving the HDI and economic competitiveness which Hitler in his staggering autism believed was unattainable without conquering the continent.

>>34626743
The real redpill isn't that the wrong side won, it's that the world, especially Europe, was sick of pointless wanton bloodshed and the ensuing attempts to preserve peace prosperity have started coming apart

>>34626776

Oh, about that invasion of Norway? Jerry beat Churchill to it with about 4 hours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_R_4

>>34626776
???
Britain declared war on Germany, starting all that, fucking clown
Britain violated the neutrality of Norway first.
No Germany can't just leave neutral neighboring countries sitting around during a serious war.

The allies invaded Iceland & Persia, not to mention all the giant fucking colonies that these empires had, which I guess are just 100% fine for them to invade/control since they were the good guys?
Killed more French than the Germans did with their mass bombing from the air too.

All you have is just flagrant hypocrisy defending the sucide of our civilization. What happened to Poland after the brits used them as a Casus Belli to start the war? Oh right they were annexed by the USSR!

All it takes is a look at the bigger picture, which you products of the western education system are incapable of doing.

>>34626819
>>34626802
Thats not true at all, Hitler made zero claims on any Western Euro country.

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>>34626666
>Those digits
Don't tell /pol/ they can't handle this redpill.

>>34626668
Or to guys under fire who panic.

>>34626794
t. pedro

>>34626854
>Britain declared war on Germany
Germany declared war on Britain's ally, after giving their word that they had no further territorial ambitions if Britain allowed them to annex one of their OTHER allies a year earlier.

Time and fucking time again, the British and French let Germany get away with it, and they're the bad guys for daring to take an uncucked stance over Poland? Are you fucking stupid?

France was right, they should have slapped Hitler's shit in 1938 when he came for Czechoslovakia. That was the worst betrayal Britain ever committed.

>>34626879
>the eternal frank
Continentals are the scum of the earth

>>34626854
>Britain declared war on Germany
DINDU NUFFIN. Ignoring why that declaration was made in the first place, because Germany invaded a country it was told not to. Save us the crap about the "Poles killing Germans"

>Britain violated the neutrality of Norway first.
Because Norway was claiming neutrality but was in fact supplying the Germans usage of their ports. A contribution by a neutral nation to a belligerent's war effort, the same thing Hitler claimed as justification when he declared war on the US.

>No Germany can't just leave neutral neighboring countries sitting around during a serious war.
Germans have no regard for international law and no honor, got it. Backstab them before they backstab you.

>>34626794
Man in the High Castle is on Amazon man, Wolfenstein the New Order is like $20 if you want to see the other side

>>34626879
Poland was not a British ally, as should be obvious when the USSR invaded a few weeks later then carted hundreds of thousands of young poles off to siberia.
After all that churchill sucked Stalin's dick every time they met, handed Poland over to him at the end of the war.

Are you stupid? All you do is swallow the pro-war bullshit from war mongerers in the west, the ones that destroyed their fucking countries with a pointless war.

In BOTH World Wars it was Germany who didn't want war, it was fucking Britain who wanted these wars, not caring one spect about how many Europeans needed to die or the consequences of it.

>>34626915
>Man in the High Castle
Trash grade entertainment

>>34626915
So a gilded shithole?

>>34626916
>All you do is swallow the pro-war bullshit from war mongerers in the west
And you want us to instead swallow your brand of bullshit that has bits of cabbage in it?

>Germany didn't want war
>It just kept pushing and escalating small conflicts into much more massive ones
Harris should have been given nukes.

>>34626913
>because Germany invaded a country it was told not to.

Here's the arrogance of a typical brainwashed western retard
Same ones who think the USA should attack China over building islands that they were "told not to", or attack Russia over doing things that they were also "told not to"

Slit the throats of their empires because Germany wanted the return of a German city taken 20 years previous.

I don't know what sort of fool can look at the end outcome of WW2, which is still going on with the mass flood of Africans into Europe, along with regular terrorist attacks, and think it was a worthwhile adventure.
Won't even make the slightest effort to try to understand the context of the war either.

>>34626945
Settling border disputes non-violently.
Then Britain comes along to say "Start a war with Germany, Poland, you'll receive more land at their expense when we win"

Poland mobilizes their army instead of giving into the one demand from Germany, which is to return a 95%+ German city, and we have WW2.

What a success by the peace loving allies.

>>34626916
>Destroyed their countries
>USA becomes such a massive power that it gurantees peace on the continent to this very day.

England had to give Poland to the USSR because there wasnt an option. WW2 had just ended, no one wanted ww3 when the embers were still hot. WW3 would have required the USA, full-stop, because UK 1945-50 vs USSR 1945-50 would be suicidal, even if France, Italy, and Spain pitched in what little they had.

Post ww2, the USA was calling the shots. We didnt find it prudent to death-fight the communists over Poland, when we could instead form a bipolar world and co-exist, even if we were rivals.

In short we found it easier to coexist with commies than fashys.

>>34626960
I don't know what kind of fool can dismiss one version of propaganda yet so readily accept another.
YOU LOST. GET THE FUCK OVER IT.
Maybe the alternative was better, maybe it was worse. I don't care because I don't deal in false history or fantasy bullshit.

>>34626970
Not saying the Treaty of Versailles was fair, but Germany had already taken land prior to the invasion of Poland.
Hitler was going to be able to keep it all after he promised no more, he got stupid and greedy.

>just give in
Why couldn't Germany do that? Just give in to the numerous other nations.
What makes Germany so entitled to have every single thing it wishes? What put Hitler in any position to determine borders?

>>34627043
[spoiler]Sein Vaterland muss größer sein[/spoiler]

>>34626879
>Germany declared war on Britain's ally
After Poland allegedly started killing off german nationals (including incidents in the free city of danzig) to avoid Sudetenland style annexation in areas high in german nationals

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>>34627070
WIR WAREN KÖNIGE UND SCHEIßE

>>34627095
If Hitler's invasion of Poland was to protect his own people, and was justifiable, then why was Operation Himmler needed?

>>34627043
>I don't care because I don't deal in false history or fantasy bullshit.
Obviously you don't deal in any history at all, because you are an American who doesn't know anything about it

Too bad Trump won, it would be so fitting for you pieces of shit to suffer under Hillary for 8 years, then permanent Democrat domination due to demographics.

You'd still be justifying WW2 when you are an oppressed minority in the USA. After all, the one government who would fight against it was destroyed then.

>Why couldn't Germany do that? Just give in to the numerous other nations.
Typical American opinion
Millions dead because "Why wouldn't they just let me boss them around??"

>>34627117
If you are a German then I hope you enjoy destroying Europe a third time because it will finally take you all with it.
Only way to stop your kind is to keep them on a short leash. Stalin should have been given the whole of Germany after the war.

>>34623670

How can you remember something you weren't there for you fucking retard...

>>34627099

Soon, baby

>>34627024
>England had to give Poland to the USSR because there wasnt an option

THERE WERE PLENTY OF OPTIONS
How ignorant do you have to be to say things like that?

>In short we found it easier to coexist with commies than fashys.
It should be obvious why US leadership found the Nazi's intolerable, but the communists are just fine. All the way to today.

>>34627104
I won't speak to that since I'm not completely knowledgeable on the subject, but I will say that if the US invaded Grenada over the "concerns over the 600 U.S. medical students on the island", then the invasion of Poland over ten times that amount would be justified. (6000, even if the 58,000 number is propaganda exaggerated by an order of magnitude)

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>>34626879
>France was right, they should have slapped Hitler's shit in 1938
No, they should have erase Germany in 1918 as it was planned before the US lenders say "no".
Say thank you to our bankers overlords.

>>34627024
>England had to give Poland to the USSR
EVEN IF that was the only option, forcibly expelling polish officers and soldiers in exile in England back to occupied Poland, resulting in them being gulag'd and executed was a dick move

>>34627117
>Typical American opinion
>Millions dead because "Why wouldn't they just let me boss them around??"

More like a typical German opinion.

>what do you mean we want more than Czech?
>of course we will stop in france!
>Poland was our total end goal!
>USSR is merely the extent of our ambitions!
>WOW MILLIONS DEAD BECAUSE **YOU** FOUGHT BACK YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

Naziboos are kikes of the highest order.

>>34627141
Too bad Hillary didn't win, it would be exactly what you people deserve.

>>34627178
There was over 6 million people forcibly deported to the USSR after WW2
But hey, I'm sure that was just one of those things we were "forced" to do to co-exist.
Just like the hundred thousand+ allied POW's left in Stalins hands

>>34627162
Wilson tried to show Germany mercy since he figured if they were treated harshly then they would rise up and seek revenge. He was right about that but it doesn't excuse of justify what Hitler did.

>>34627156
I would love to hear a feasible plan the UK could have to ensure Poland didnt fall to the industrial and military juggernaut that was the USSR without relying entirely on American power.

Pretty much no matter how you could theoretically slice it, USSR would own Eastern Europe post ww2. Even pre-ww2 UK couldnt have stopped them through force, their whole empire levied against the USSR.

>>34627178
Oh yeah, it was a colossal dick move.

but England tends to do that

>>34627179
Are you a communist? Because you are complaining about the only country in Europe who was willing to fight communism.
Do you really know nothing of history ? You know the world has existed for at least a few thousand years huh? It didn't begin when Hitler was elected.

>>34627205
Accept one of Germany's many offers of peace

>>34627225
>If you don't let Germany own Europe you are LITTERALLY COMMUNIST!

Kek. How does it feel that the very invasion of the USSR was Hitlers greatest mistake? You don't fight a battle you can't win.

>>34627201
>but it doesn't excuse of justify what Hitler did.

Clueless ignorant American spotted.

>but but the invasions & occupations that the US did don't count! We're the good guys! Germany must be destroyed!

>>34627264
How does it feel that millions of white Americans will be victimized this year by shitskins, who almost all vote Democrat because the Dems will take your tax money to give to them?

Americans deserve the fate in store for them, as a white minority socialist country.

Its clearly what you want.

>>34627314
How does it feel that the very motley crew of shitskins defeated your precious Germany?

Feel superior to be BLACKED by the American Negro?

>>34627347
nigger

>>34627376
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but B-17s crewed by negroes will still flatten Dresden.

>>34627376
Oooo, strike a nerve?

>>34627388
>>34627395

NYC 15% white
LA 10% white
Chicago 20% white
Houston 20% white

But hey good thing Americans died fighting the Japs & Germans
Remmeber the vets who fought to turn themselves into an oppressed minority in their own country!

>>34627201
>he figured if they were treated harshly then they would rise up and seek revenge
Wilson was super wrong, the Germans would not have been treated "harshly", they would have been promptly ethnicised and incorporated, and they would have had no choice but being happy about that since they were lacking of everything, starving, in shock and in a state of social chaos. We're talking about the 1918 society, 80% of illiterate farmers and factory workers, it would have been as smooth as definitive for them.
SJW fucked everything again.

Americans, why didn't you nuke Germany instead of Japan? We Europeans wouldn't be dealing with the eternal kraut if you had just sent a few nukes over to that belligerent snownig filled teutonic shithole.

>>34627462
Just because you've forgotten that you have a racial & ethnic identity, doesn't mean that the whole world thinks like you

>>34622885
Nolan wanted as little CGI in this film as possible, hence the relatively empty beaches, and scant aircraft. It's supposed to be about the human stories after all, or some shite.

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>>34626854
>Britain declared war on Germany

>>34627482
War was done when we had the first nukes out.

>>34627462
>Yanks are the reason Germany still exists

Why do Americans have to ruin everything? We literally could have erased Germans off the map if you hadn't insisted on playing superhero

>>34627498
They did, what are you trying to say? Britain and France declared war on Germany after the invasion of Poland. This is fourth grade history here, anon. Fuck is wrong with you?

>>34627460
>thinking you can speak for millions of WWII vets

Kek, I asked my grandpa about demographics before he died, didn't give a single fuck. He was Westpoint graduated and kicked the shit out of rommel in africa to france, and we are white as fucking snow.

I say again, how does it feel that the "superior" ethnically "clean" Germans got absolutely fucking smashed by the shitskins they despised?

>>34627498
they did

>>34627482
Sew
>>34627504

Dumb faggots could not even hold out as long as the slopes.

Failures all around

>>34627462
>>34627507
Don't forget Lloyd George wanting a strong Germany as a balance to France.

Wilson basically got cucked by the GOP congress at this point.

>>34627507
Germany is supposed to be a European problem, not a North American one. You should have all come together and agreed to remove kraut once we left.

>>34627531
To be fair, FDR had a "Europe first" policy because he cared more about Europeans than slants.

The funny part is that America still beat up Japan with the scraps left over from the European front.

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>>34622885

Instead of making another pointless movie on some meaningless and minor Skirmish about MUH WESTERN FRONT, when will Hollyjew make a proper movie about a place where 80% of the actual World War took place - the Eastern Front.

>>34627225
>the only country in Europe who was willing to fight communism
Well they fucked that one up pretty bad. Perhaps the Germans should stick to making cars and not getting jokes, because every time they try to war, they fuck everything up for everyone, not least themselves.

>>34627548
because no one wants to spend 2 hours seeing a movie about German women sleeping with Russian soldiers

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>sure, we'll look the other way while you re-arm
>sure, we'll look the other way while you re-militarize the rhineland
>sure, we'll look the other way while you annex austria
>sure, we'll look the other way while you dismember our ally

Clearly, ((((((((((Britain)))))))))) was hell-bent on war with Germany.
I really feel so bad for Chamberlain, he worked with Hitler in good faith, all logic and good sense was with him, who could want another war just 20 years after the war? Everyone knew how horrible war is but (((Hitler))) couldn't be reasoned with and he had to destroy Europe, costing millions of lives and ruining nationalism for all future generations.

>>34627567
If by that you mean no one wants to spend 2 hours watching a movie about German men slaughtering Russian soldiers, then I get what your saying

>>34627527
I meant to say "stop invading neutral countries then"

>>34626647
>we must go deeper

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>>34626442
they were though

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>Poland refuses to be intimidated by you and give up their land
>Proceed to destroy half of Europe
>Kill and maim millions of men
>Slaughter the populations of Eastern Europe in a war of annihilation
>Somehow Britain is the war monger

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>>34626659
That was an autistic part unless it was the final few days that never happened

>>34626666
the quads of truth

>>34626654
His key strength was his stubbornness, his 'fuck off' attitude.

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>*Lets you rearm*
>*Lets you remilitarize the Rhineland*
>*Lets you annex Austria*
>*Lets you dismember Czechoslovakia*
>*Rebuilds your country for you after you spaz out and destroy Europe*
Thank me later bro

>>34627648
Danzig was not "their land" at all retard.

Why do you retard Americans comment on shit when you don't know anything.

>>34627744
when the wehraboo is salty that danzig was a free city under the protection of the league of nations, which Poland was a part of

>>34627787
And Poland threatened war with Germany over any change in that status, which was contrary to what the people of Danzig wanted.
Then Poland mobilized their army.

But hey evil Hitler trying to take over the world is the narrative taught in American schools, therefore its reality.

The Naziboo frothing at the mouth ITT is hilarious

The west condemned to death & genocide is hilarious, says the brown American

>>34627539
>You should have all come together and agreed to remove kraut once we left.
LOL, the problem is that we agreed to remove the krauts BEFORE you came.

>>34627537
>Wilson basically got cucked by the GOP congress at this point.
Probably but still, the poison comes from the US.

To stay /k/ related, Europe makes wars since the beginning of history, we're built by the war, and that's how WE built the world. From the moment some faggots started to prevent us to fight as we used to, the world started to be shit. Think about it.

>>34627900
It's a little different because WW2 was fought over ideological reasons

>>34627900
>nukes are the "some faggots" preventing war

Lel

>>34627683
>dat anglo map
>all these BEF facing Pz Div and SS
In reality everyone but the French retreated immediatly and by may 28th there was no more Belgian nor British troops fighting.

>>34627961
>1918
>nukes
lel...

>>34622916
Link? I don't want to watch the entire movie

>This whole thread

continentals are absolute scum. Harris was a man fighting for right and justice, not a war criminal

>>34628186
charred and broiled germans ITT will argue otherwise.

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>>34627225
>Because you are complaining about the only country in Europe who was willing to fight communism
>only country
Those Wehraboo textbooks you read sound mighty thin, friend. Here's a helpful link to help you understand why you are a retard:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War

Cut back on the Pervitin, Hans. It's making you irritable.

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>there are people still bootyroasted about a war they lost 72 years ago

>>34626384
No It was a single take

>itt; /k/ proves that is, once again, even more retarded at movie critique than even /tv/
Brovo guys.

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>>34628259
Don't forgot the Winter War

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>>34622885
>in Dunkirk 2017, the beach is mostly empty, with rows of men stranding in single file and few if any vehicles and no fortifications beyond the city proper.
That's what it looked like

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>>34628372
Shhhhh, OP thinks he's being clever and smart but really he's just a contrarian faggot.

>>34622885
>In Atonement 2007
hold on OP

you're able to deduce that Nolan completely fucked up his depiction of the beaches...because it didn't correspond with what a mediocre romance movie's depiction? is that the catalyst for your conclusion?


why is this board so retarded?

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>>34628372
There was no "fortifications", but there was a fuckton of abandoned vehicles near and on the beach.

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>>34628483

>>34628403
>no ferris wheele
wow, war really is heck

>>34624306
They used the real fucking planes and turned up the sounds they recorded

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>>34628493

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>>34628483
It varied.

WW2 discussion is fucking gay because it's too recent and people are still butthurt about it

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>>34628512

>>34626874

I doubt they were panicking when they were loading their clips

>>34622885
Just like nearly every D-Day scene ever put on firm. In reality Omaha beach was five miles wide, with only an unlucky few craft landing directly in front of the defenses being in machine gun range. It's just the constraints of film making.

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>>34628513
No it didn't "varied". All testimonies and documents say it was a massive material dump. The pictures showing only queues of soldiers are the only places where they were gathered.

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>>34627933
>WW2 was fought over ideological reasons

>>34625570
FORCED TO BLEED IN THE WHITE MAN'S WARS TO PERPETUATE THE OPPRESSIVE STRUCTURE OF THEIR COLONIAL RULE AND ENSURE THE SANCITY OF THE WHITE MAN'S BORDERS

>>34626536
He was talking about Britain's beaches.

Fuck France.

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>>34628807
>fuck France

This movie fucking sucked. The constant "heart beat" in the sound track was so annoying I almost left the theatre.

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>>34627548
>the Eastern Front

Probably never because large, slowly developing set-piece battles get boring quickly. Slow, horse-dependent armies often crossing open country and playing a game of encirclement doesn't make for an exciting cinema experience. Maybe we'll get some more pseudo-historical Stalingrad movies that pretend like it was an urban battle not fought across 60,000 square miles w/ the majority of both armies never setting foot inside the city proper.

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>>34626743

>REEE NOT ENOUGH EQUIPMENT
this fucking board

>>34628929
Haven't seen the movie, but I got the soundtrack. Disappointing. Hans Zimmer really phoned that shit in.

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>>34628950
nice strawman moshe, gtfo/out/

>>34628960
Nice try JIDF.

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>>34628960

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>>34626743

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>>34628933
Kursk? It takes place in a wide area but it's pretty intense.

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I was majorly disappointed in the inaccurate depictions of RAF pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_b1Y-Rl_Uo

>>34628972
Can't be cuckolded if you're forever alone.

>>34629015
Translation?

>>34622910
338,000 via 900 boats over 8 days. with 100,000 captured or escaped via spain.

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>>34628673
b-but the movies say it was a bloodbath

>>34629015
It'd be 99% CGI tanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-39Mguh1k

>>34623443
Crashing this Reich...

>>34629318
>It'd be 99% CGI tanks.
Deal!

>>34626934
Why?

Surprisingly Dunkirk was pretty OK. 7/10 direction, the non-linear story was good for the first half while you were figuring out how it went together. Then it got annoying as it made a thousand cuts per minute at the climax. The muted color palette for the first half was well done, but the transition wasn't all that well executed and was jarring. The plotline with the soldier rescued from the torpedoed hulk and George was garbage and should have been cut entirely. Bane crashes planes without survivors, sets a fire that rises, and is caught in accordance with his master plan.
Overall, not awful.

>>34628372
>>34628403
see
>>34628483
>>34628493
>>34628505
>>34628512
>>34628513
>>34628536
There was a huge material dump. Those saying Nolan got it right are the ones trying to be "clever."

>>34628728
This. If anything, Dunkirk actually downplays considerably how cluttered things were. Classic case of millennial hipster faggots thinking things were less incredible than they were.

>>34622885
Good example of Hollywood then vs. now. Then people wanted to see scores of burly men fighting each other filling the whole screen. Now people want to see 3 queer actors as the primary subjects looking sad and talking.

>>34628933

You literally have a meme level knowledge of the Eastern Front.

>>34623527
Dunkirk has like two black guys and they're French soldiers that look like legit Africans.

>>34629310
Certain sectors of the beach were a blood bath. Within 3 minutes upon landing at Dog Green all of the first wave's CO's and NCO's were casualties.

>>34630483
also they're just kind of there in the background, blending in with the rest of the French. Damn near just scene props. Not like it had a black Admiral saving the day.

>>34630510
>Not like it had a black Admiral saving the day.
Not like Atonement had that either.

>>34624278
The French were portrayed perfectly for a movie shot from the perspective of Englishmen.

>>34628746
fuck off nigger lover

>>34630519
Nobody is saying that, jackass

>>34623230

Actually they pretty much explain this with the final shot of him soaring over the troops. It is pretty clear from a pilot's perspective that he is too low and slow to turn or bail safely. Gliding it out would be the optimal choice in that situation.

Can I get a no-Bane-memes explanation for why Tom Hardy didn't land his plane/eject when he was over the evacuating English troops? I get it, he glided around and managed to shoot down another German plane and saved the day, but AFTER that? Why did he have to land his plane amidst a ton of Germans?

>>34630643
Because it was a historical fictional perspective

>>34630643
Too low for his parachute to open, the nigga would have broken his legs and drowned

>>34630668
>>34630637
This makes sense, but I have no idea how I was supposed to know that while watching the movie. Explains why the other pilots weren't bailing either.

>>34630588
Follow the thread, dumbass.

>>34630655
Still doesn't explain why he didn't land closer to the evac zone.

>>34630643
Because they expected one of them I the wreckage

>>34624356
#t=180s
would have worked
the old #t=3m0s does not work so well any more

>>34624940
>Some of those 'ships'
were just civi fishing boats or the barges that could handle open waters

>>34630735
Because God (the screen writer) made him land further away

>>34630710
>but I have no idea how I was supposed to know that while watching the movie.
Common sense?

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>>34622885
>this entire thread
How have none of you been there?

They cleaned Europe up after the war, but big fortifications were left in place half the time, especially when they weren't in the way, which includes a lot of coastal bunkers.

I haven't seen either of these movies, but if there were large fortifications, at least some of them would still be at Dunkirk, and they weren't when I visited.

You people need to get out of the house and travel a bit.

>>34630869
The beach in the 2017 movie was basically pristine. It makes it seem like everyone just stood in line for over a week waiting for the boats with no equipment or fortifications or tanks or cars or really anything to hide behind or take shelter.

>>34628403
He was asking which one was accurate. How is that being clever? Also nice shots of the very edge of the beach.

>>34629206
>Translation?
frog here to save the day
1. One night, I don't recall which one, a storm broke out above us, achieving to plunge us into human dementia.
2. Benevolent water finally streamed down our swollen faces. We desperately offered them to the rain as if to to wash them of all our woes.
3. It does not even come to us to use our "ponchos". We're rapidly transformed into human damp floor cloth soaked in water and this reddish ukrainian mud.
4. Crushed with an indescribable exhaustion, we continue the fight again and again.
5. Decidedly, despite his tenacity and countless losses, Ivan was letting go before our insane stubbornness.
6. Now at close range, the Tigers were reducing to crumbs the hardest entrenched points.

>>34630924
>or really anything to hide behind or take shelter.
They didn't need tanks or fortifications, the Brits were hiding behind the French :^)))

>>34630710
assumed knowledge
they have to make the movie shorter so such detail is removed

.eg the first bond movie had all sorts of spy craft like taping bits of paper to door frames
and this makes it boring to watch

>>34631050
also this.
in the movie you only see a handful of french for like 10 seconds. It's true they were busy doing the fighting after Lord Gort withdrew all of its troops on may 26 without informing neither the french of belgians about it.
But hey, let's pretend the evacuation was possible because of Hitler's generosity and mercy, right ?

Saving Private Steiner when

>>34626367
Is that mad max fury road?

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>>34624940
Charles Lightoller, who was 2nd Officer on the Titanic, brought his ~60ft long yacht to Dunkirk. He got about 130 men aboard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundowner_(yacht)

>>34628746
AND.....shiet?

>>34631516
>1912: Takes boats made for 65 people and lets them go with 20
>1940: Takes a boat made for like 12 people and crams over 100 onto it
What are you doing man?

how did the germans shoot those holes in the boat for the water to come through?

>>34630643
Check the post above you.

>>34631586
Atoning.

>>34627024
>would be suicidal
Bullshit

>>34631874
I wonder if that played a role. Even if he never admitted it, and by all accounts was a hero that night, there must have been some regret or even guilt.

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>>34629318
>>34629015
I'd kill for a movie about Kursk.

Some rich billionaire should fund it and demand that as much of it as possible should be practical effects, including replica tanks.

>>34626384
The edits is to hide the transition from one camera to another but it's still one take.

>>34622885
https://youtu.be/XXYij5JxC-M

>>34622885
Just got back from seeing Dunkirk, holy fuck that movie was a boring piece of shit.

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>>34630510
Sort of like how Fury had black and Japanese American background characters?

Also when is the 442nd Infantry Regiment gonna get its own movie?

>As the men of the 442nd went deeper and deeper they became more hesitant, until reaching the point where they would not move from behind a tree or come out of a foxhole.
>However, this all changed in an instant. The men of Companies I and K of 3rd Battalion had their backs against the wall, but as each one saw another rise to attack, then another also rose.
>Then every Nisei charged the Germans screaming, and many screaming "Banzai!"Through gunfire, artillery shells, and fragments from trees, and Nisei going down one after another, they charged.
>Colonel Rolin's grenadiers put up a desperate fight, but nothing could stop the Nisei rushing up the steep slopes, shouting, firing from the hip, and lobbing hand grenades into dugouts.
>Finally the German defenses broke and the surviving grenadiers fled in disarray.
>On 12 November, General Dahlquist ordered the entire 442nd to stand in formation for a recognition and award ceremony.
>Of the 400 men originally assigned to K Company only eighteen turned out, joined by eight survivors from I Company.
>Upon reviewing the meager assemblage Dahlquist became irritated, ignorant of the sacrifices that the unit had made in serving his orders. He demanded of Colonel Virgil R. Miller, "I want all your men to stand for this formation."
>Miller responded simply, "That's all of K company left, sir."

Fuck you Hollywood

>>34627548
>Why won't they make a film that will be primarily aimed at western audiences about something most of that western audience knows nothing about
Gee, I don't know.

>>34622921
t. Prince of Dol Amroth

Go masturbate to your supposed elven blood.

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>>34632565
>most of that western audience
>American education

>>34632565
Because no one in the US or Europe went to see Enemy at the Gates, right?

>>34630997
enfin un camarade

>>34632408
Hipsters are acting like it's realistic because "WAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE BORING DUH!" This is a good example of fiction trying to downplay the spectacle and getting history wrong as a result.

>>34630997
Muchas gracias!

>>34632671

Technically America is in the Western Hemisphere so everything else is Eastern.

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>>34632888
Depends which map you use.

>>34632799
>Because no one in the US or Europe went to see Enemy at the Gates, right?
Jean-Jacques Annaud was the movie director and producer. The movie was produced by one french and and one american film production companies.

Technically it's a french-american movie with american actors.

So it's only partially holywood. But there is a jew in it. Except well, let's say the movie does not really portray him in the way hollywood is supposed to portray a jew (lawful good and oppressed by evil white people).

also :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_at_the_Gates#Reception
>The film was poorly received in the former Soviet Union.[12] Some Red Army Stalingrad veterans were so offended by inaccuracies in the film and how the Red Army was portrayed that on 7 May 2001, shortly after the film premiered in Russia, they expressed their displeasure in the Duma, demanding a ban of the film, but their request was not granted.[13][14]

>The film was also received poorly in Germany. Critics claimed that it simplified history and glorified war.[15][16][17] At the Berlinale film festival, it was booed. Annaud stated afterwards that he would not present another film at Berlinale, calling it a "slaughterhouse" and claiming that his film received much better reception elsewhere.[18][19]

Topkek I did not knew this.
german "pacificts" and butthurt former USSR political commissars bonding together to trash a movie about Stalingrad, hmmmm...
Really makes me think.

>>34632965
Hey, I never said it was well received or militarily/historically accurate, but it's an example of a movie covering the eastern front that is widely known to viewers in the west, thus rebuking the point >>34632565 was making.

Thus, you can have a film about the eastern front and know it won't be a flop, unless of course it's poorly advertised or a bad film in its own right.

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>>34623593
Hahahahaha

>>34626451
This is far too accurate, though you did forget the muttering under breath.

>>34632965
that movie is indeed very inaccurate

>>34632480

I am willing to pay money to see this on a screen. Gladly.

>>34632408
>>34632870
It felt incredibly sparse, for some reason.

I get that it was meant to be focusing on just a few people's tales, but it seemed like there were far fewer planes in the sky and AA guns on the boats/shore than there should have been.

The total lack of focus on the French efforts to hold back the Germans was also disappointing, and I did notice that at no point was a German soldier actually shown, at least until the end of the movie, and even then they were just silhouettes thanks to the lighting.

The beaches and streets felt too clean, as well. There's supposed to be a large amount of war ordnance that allied forces left behind, but we never really see any of it.

>>34632112
>All practical effects
>Spend literal billions restoring old tanks
>Use live shells and destroy them during filming
Be /k/areful of what you wish for

>>34633048
There were about 100 RAF in the sky and at least that many Luftwaffles. But nope, I guess it was really just Tom Hardy and a couple useless wingmen taking on a small, thinly scattered German squadron.

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>>34629015
The Kharkov Cauldron pls.

>>34633093
Replicas, anon. Replicas.

Honestly, considering how much money is poured into a modern blockbuster in CGI effects alone, it wouldn't be that costly to make a few semi-functional mock-ups of each tank that are basically dressed up tractors with basically no armor, and have the tank's interiors recreated in a studio so you can film the crew without crawling around inside of one.

The hardest part there would be recreating the suspension and tracks to an accurate degree.

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I think we can all agree that Serbians suck balls.

Here is the perfect war comedy biopic.

>>34627388
YOU better be a nigger or you should just kill your self if you are a white anon. Absolutely pathetic

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>>34632480
>>Then every Nisei charged the Germans screaming, and many screaming "Banzai!"Through gunfire, artillery shells, and fragments from trees, and Nisei going down one after another, they charged.
I NEED THIS NOW

>>34622916
Dunkirk was much more realistic and a superior war film

Atonement was non stop CGI crap, with Dunkirk Nolan at least used real aircraft and men on the beaches.

Also the random black Brits was so out of place in atonement, Dunkirk gets it right and represents them as colonial French soldiers instead.

Also
>Dat initial city shootout scene
>Dat ship torpedo scene
>Dem aerial battles

nothing can top dunkirks realism in the above, the tension in the cinema was crazy. my heart was beating when the initial shots started ringing out and the poor bongs are shot in the back running for cover

>>34630479
Okay, David Glantz. Enlighten me.

>>34624278
>>34624338
One of the storylines focuses a French character throughout the entire film

also the French are holding the line as the Brits escape to the beach, really they can't bitch because they were portrayed quite accurately imo

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>>34626776
>>34626778
>>34626794
>>34626802
>>34628950

>angry Anglos aka kike tools being this mad

topkek

>>34628950
>bottom isn't a qt germanic loli being SLAV'D.com

what a waste

>>34623230
Because he somehow blew the energy he never even had making a climbing turn without any engine power to kill the Stuka.

>>34627737

t-thanks for allowing me to move freely in my own house and be as armed as my neighbors are.. so generous.

>>34627737
>Posting the old union flag

burgers please

>>34627548
No opportunity for blacks.

>>34631438
Bane too.

>>34627548
I would personally like to see more North African campaign

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>>34627548
we've already had a hollywood Stalingrad movie and it was AIDS

not sure why you want another one, although I would like to see Nolan take a crack at the fall of Singapore like he did with Dunkirk

he hit the survival element spot on, something like that but with the story of "the forgotten highlander" would be pure kino

>Why does a British director make a movie about British history and not some random slavshit engagement during the war

Hmmmmm

>>34624940
note how all the men are in uniform
and nearly a civi in seight

>>34627621
>enter into an allience ment at just one nation
>be neutral
not that hte brits and french cared about neutrality

>>34627683
>tfw you live between the 25/28 line
>and along the 14/18 line aswell

>>34626666
Goddammit Satan, I'm not emotionally equipped to handle redpills this big.

>>34626802
>He believed it was necessary to unite the resources and peoples of Europe under German direction so that the continent would not fall behind the United States, which was rapidly dominating global trade because - in Hitler's analysis - it had a vast advantage over Europe in population density, usable land and internal markets which a divided Europe did not.
Holy shit, Hitler was right.

So does this make the EU the 4th Reich?

>>34632480

this is an actual diversity movie I would love to see.

>>34630325
>Those saying Nolan got it right are the ones trying to be "clever."

notice how the men all lined up is basically one part of the beach, while the discarded vehicles and materials are at another part? Thats what is depicted in Dunkirk.

its sad that people will not see this work of art out of pure contrarianism

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>>34626854
>Britain declared war on Germany, starting all that, fucking clown

yeah, after Germany invaded Poland. Funny how stormfags just conveniently leave this part out

>No Germany can't just leave neutral neighboring countries sitting around during a serious war.

So Germany responds to Norways neutrality being violated (it wasnt) by the british by invading Norway? wow, fucking amazing

>
The allies invaded Iceland & Persia, not to mention all the giant fucking colonies that these empires had, which I guess are just 100% fine for them to invade/control since they were the good guys?

literally not one person died in the invasion of Iceland and it was a bloodless occupation that resulted in their one and only airport being built and them gaining independence. Compared to the brutal occupation of the germans in everywhere else.

>All you have is just flagrant hypocrisy defending the sucide of our civilization.

says the faggot praising the most destructive force in europe ever. Its disgusting how you cowards and retards think of yourselves as "guardians of europe!" or whatever when you are all selfish, bile filled scumbags

>>34634550
If I remember correctly, a British sailor froze to death or some shit.

>>34634293
They put their foot down and don't invade and Germany does it anyway

>>34624278
I truly, truly thank you Anon. I reverse searched your pic and am currently reading that wonder. Merci

>>34634550

>literally not one person died in the invasion of Iceland and it was a bloodless occupation that resulted in their one and only airport being built and them gaining independence. Compared to the brutal occupation of the germans in everywhere else.

do good goyim actually believe this?

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>>34628950

>this thread
I knew /k/ was full of petty contrarians with more autism that common sense, but Jesus

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>>34634718

No one died in the invasion of Iceland, no one was murdered during its occupation by both the British and Americans, the Reykjavik airposrt was built by the British military during this occupation, and Iceland had a vote for its independence from Denmark in 1944.

this is all factually correct and you literally have no argument other than canned shitty memes.

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>>34634775

Yet 3 Million Indians were killed by the British through starvation since they withheld grain that they needed for their war effort.

Why dont you mention that?

>Allies Never invades neutral countries!

Iceland

>B-but nobody died and we kind of left an abandoned airport after we were done using the nation of Iceland

pathetic

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>>34634808

>loses argument
>changes goal post

>actually bringing up starving people to death

lol

>>34627388
>B-17s crewed by negroes will still flatten Dresden.
> Combat arms
> black
Pick one

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>>34634832

>claims Allies never invaded neutral countries
>gets proven wrong
>moves goal posts
>claims other side moved goal posts

top jew

>>actually bringing up starving people to death

>I-its okay when we do it haha

>>34634860
>>claims Allies never invaded neutral countries

I never said that. you lost the argument and are acting like the juvenile retard all stormfags are.

>>34634875

Okay so you throw your little tantrum because Germany reclaims land that was part of it for a thousand years while you are okay with the French, British and Americans invade half of the world.

You should at least try to hide your bias.

>>34623593

they can still contribute, just forcibly as slaves like they should be

>>34631737
with a rifle

so where were all the french people

>>34631516
I played the dunkirk evacuation in world of warships yesterday and she was in it, it was pretty cool to see. These guys definitely know their boats.

>>34634926
>germany reclaiming land
>germany wasn't even a nation thousands of years ago
tfw

>>34635001

>nation =/= state

Since Poland wasnt a country 150 years ago you agree that it shouldnt exist right? :^)

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>>34635034
Poland was a kingdom

>>34633904
>British subjects
>Foreigners
Angry Nazi is upset that his country wasn't the greatest empire the world has ever seen. Protip: When the sun doesn't set on your nation, not everyone in it is going to look the same. But so long as the Queen is their monarch they're British.

And if not they're filthy traitors and should be hung like the Irishmen they are.

>>34630741
Kek

>>34635069

>conquered Indians are British subjects
>conquered Poles are not German subjects

again your bias is showing, Juda.

>>34635041

Germany was a confederation of German states

>>34634926
>Germany reclaims land that was part of it for a thousand years
Just a suggestion, if you want to jack off to your first Reich, then you'd better spread you ass cheeks and prepare to be ruled over by Spicks and Austrians as is your proper place in the world.

>>34634550
>says the faggot praising the most destructive force ever in europe
Yeah lets just ignore the Romans, Mongols, Turks, Ottomans, Moors, French, Brits, Portuguese, Soviets, oh and niggers too

>there are cucks so buttbombed that they are still spreading Nazi apologia 70+ years after their favourite band of eternal war losers lost WW2

>>34635128

>

t. 50% Merimutt Lamarcus Sanchez

"ok"