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Weekend Milsurp Thread

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Tang edition

Post gats, sperg out over bubbas, tell people not to buy from sweaty Ben, etc.
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>>34616946
I need more pictures of milsurp handguns. These threads lack them.
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Does this count as posting lewds
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>>34616966
Okay. This is my edc.
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>>34616946
Does anybody have a Vergueiro they own they can tell me about? I'm about to buy one.
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>>34617000
Good luck. 8mm or patrician 6.5?
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>>34616946
>tfw no 1112 year old mosin
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>>34617011
8mm. I've practically never seen a 6.5 online
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>>34617074
A couple years ago I saw them regularly. Now that I want one of course they're nowhere to be found.
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>>34617061
Lol. How do you think the Rus finally managed to stop paying tribute to the Khan chieftains?
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>>34617081
I already know I'd never get around to shooting it, even if I found one. Ammo is unobtanium
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>>34616946
why do you all buy this old commie shit. just save your money and get a glock.
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>>34617137
This is bait, but I'll bite. Milsurp is no longer a poorfag hobby.
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>>34617137
Why do you shitpost? Just save your money and buy a bottle of bleach.
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>>34617137
>(You)
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>>34617137
I already have a glock
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>>34617173
asking why you all into buying junk guns is not shit posting. none you all seems to have answers and you post is pure shit post.

>>34617191
yet another one.
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>>34617128
Not if you hand load. 8mm brass works fine.
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>>34617235
I have another one
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>>34617242
I don't handload...yet.
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Stop feeding it (you)s.
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>>34617061
How about a 120 year old Mauser?
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>>34617235
>asking why you all into buying junk guns
what junk guns? i never bought a junk gun
milsurp is no longer the cheap way to get into guns. you need to want milsurp to pay for it
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>>34617334
>i never bought a junk gun
>posts mitchel mauser
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This thread contains a dangerous level of bait so far
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>>34617295
You should, it makes all surps shootable.
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>>34617366
when did Mitchell's start selling Brazilian Mod. 1908s?
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>>34617441
Speaking of Type 99s, I haven't shot mine yet, even after 2 years.
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>>34617366
>>34617481
answer me you nigger
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>>34617593
Just let it go chief.
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>>34616946
I got this late 1940/early 41 M1 Garand, for 850, how did I do?
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>ordering my beretta on sunday
>they just finally charge me today
>it wont ship until monday if im lucky

fucking sog
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>>34617674
Everybody already said you did great
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>mfw I finally paid off the layaway on my Lebel but have to wait three days
I wouldn't have to do this if I had a CCW permit but I am only 19. At least I am definitely getting it now.
Excuse the foneposting. I am still in town.
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>>34617767
>waiting periods
>putting things on layaway
Truly cucked
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>>34617788
I-I'm in Alabama....
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>>34618005
Why the fuck is there a waiting period?
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>at work
>literally nothing to do
>3 more hours
P-post more milsurp guys
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>>34618005
me to where are you at
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>>34618467
>working until 11 on a Friday
How's retail treating you kiddo?
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>>34618467
Are you me?
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>>34617441
Since it seems no one on /k/ has a Vergueiro, I'll let you know how I like mine after I place the order and receive it. Just waiting for payday.
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>>34618568
Please do, they're never talked about.
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>>34618518
Wrong, just 2nd shift

>>34618529
Idk, are you a CNC grinder?
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>>34618588
2nd shift is truly the worst of the 3 normal shifts, unless you love sleeping in and/or are not very social. I miss 7 to 3

t. 2-10 shift worker
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>>34618588
Working second shift is terrible, 7-3 is the best.

I'm a fellow CNC button pusher.
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>>34618602
I love sleeping in. I worked first shift for 8 months before moving to second and it was absolutely brutal to wake up at 5am. Besides, I can still hang out with friends on the weekends.
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>>34618624
>I'm a fellow CNC button pusher
Not him, but I did that for a few weeks at a really good company as a temp, but I had to quit. How does a person do something so boring and repetitive?
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>>34618588
No, I'm a metallurgical lab manager. I sit in my office all day and Jack off.
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>>34618626
I like sleeping in as well, but I'd give that up to go back to 7 to 3, and being able to see friends after work. I'm socially needy, and just the weekends don't really cut it for me.
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>>34618731
You sound like our quality guy

>>34618734
7-3 wouldn't be so bad, but getting up at 5 for 6-2 was awful. I used to get up at 6am all the time for school so that wasn't bad, but there's a big difference in just that extra hour of sleep. It's really hard to get a full 8 hours and get up at 5, who the fuck goes to bed before 9.
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>>34618783
Oh yeah, there's a huge difference between starting at 6 vs 7. I can go to bed at 10 and be asleep by 11, but I just can't make myself get in bed sooner than that.
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>>34618697
They allow us to use headphones at the place I work at, as long as there aren't executives around or OSHA people.
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>>34618697
I run 3 CNC grinding machines and have to do a full setup of each one almost every night, which includes sharpening the diamond, checking runout, and getting the tool in tolerance. Also making the tool look good. Usually I am running around all night getting them setup but today we just happen to have them all running through the weekend.
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>>34618783
>You sound like our quality guy
We are a breed unto ourselves.
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>>34618828
I was allowed to as well, and even listening to Pandora stand up comedy channels wasn't enough. I need a job where what I do changes a lot, but haven't found one yet. I guess that's how I've had 20 jobs at only 26 years old.
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Antique receiver -- hells to the yeah!

(On a "B" Barrel M39)
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>>34616966

This was Patton's choice for CCW, so technically a milsurp
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So i found somebody selling a "sniper yugo mauser" it looks in pristine condition but doesn't have a scope on it. It has 2 mount bases front one has a stamp under the front optic mount the rear one has 2 holes drilled into it.

It looks pristine condition and is going for 500 USD. Tell me what the fuck is wrong with this
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>>34618985
bubba put drilled them himself and lost his scope
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>>34619016
Thats what I think but I don't know enough.
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How do you guys rate my collection.(bedroom).
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>>34619051
id buy whoevers room that was a case of beer just to smell that room
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>>34619051
>Cosmoline soaked wood everywhere
Nice collection there, Anon.
It'd be a shame if anything were to... happen to it...
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>>34619051
5/10 too many mausers
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Don't fucking die on me
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I might've just found the best deal on Armslist
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>>34619542
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Where do you guys get decent pictures of your milsurp? I live in an apartment, so really my only option that I can think of is take my guns to my parent's house out of state.
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S&W 4" Victory model on the right showed up today. Got carried away and have two more Victory or Pre-Victory models showing up later.
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>>34619636
iktf mine all suck so they are just on my couch
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>>34619636
Back porch of my parent's house, usually in cloudy or sunny weather.
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I've been looking at Webleys, but a friend of mine offered me a Sten kit and 5 mags for $100.


Did I screw up by spending my Webley money?
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>>34619806
Yes.
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>>34619806
webleys are so fucking ugly. just makes me want one even more even though im not a pistol guy for the most part
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>>34619711
Dat wood
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Took this last night for the sks bread.
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>>34620076
an albanian sks, the abosolute madman
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>>34620076
The leafs and their slav shit
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Got a show tomorrow. Really, REALLY hoping the Belgian 1889/16 I saw last time is still there. I am craving a non-German Mauser.
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is 600 for an 1903A3 Smith Corona Springfield + 100 odd rounds a decent price? Lookin for first rifle, almost going MAS 36, but figure should go with cheaper ammo first.
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>>34619636
I use my steps to my backyard.
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>>34620182
Get a Swedish Mauser
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>>34620201
6.5 is sort of underwhelming. its not a bad round but I wish I had shot it before I bought mine
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>>34619542
Not really. That's at least 500 too high.
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>>34620201
The only one I'll accept right now is a M94 or 94/14.
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>>34620214
That was a sarcastic post

>>34620213
In terms of what? I love 6.5mm

I'm trying to get more 6.5s, because I'm already invested in reloading it. Type 38 here I come.
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>>34620226
Yeah, I've been looking for one of those but the people at local shows have been asking $1300+ and they're not too good looking overall condition
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>>34619859
They aren't elegant, but dat topbreak action.
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>mfw just won an auction for a No 1 Mk 3 SMLE for $300
It's my first new milsurp in a year and a half
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>>34620322
jelly. There arnt any gunshows around for a while now and im bring a pile of money to indy next weekend. hope I find something nice
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>>34619636
You could always find some sort of lightly textured mat to lie them on, just to break up the background a little.
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>>34620154
Not a leaf. And not just slav :)
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>>34620385
Oops lol
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>>34619636
My parents deck
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>>34620406
Christ, invest in some gun socks.
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>>34620437
Not a bad idea my dude, I have some but not enough. The rifles do pretty well with the heat bars in there. I'll look for a shitload of gunsocks at the next show
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Anyone know the intricacies of the Arisaka? I just got my Type 99 today. While reassembling it after cleaning, I noticed the cleaning rod release button is stuck down. I can push the cleaning rod back down into the lock, but the button doesn't spring back up and I need to yank the cleaning rod to take it out. Any idea how to fix?
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>>34620632
Nvm, loosened the screws on the front band and the button popped back up
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>>34620632
>Arisakas have buttons to release the cleaning rod
>not just having threaded holes in the stock
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>>34620678
Have fun storing your cleaning rod when the threads get worn
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>>34616946
So. Just joined the Carcano club again today because they seem to just follow me home.

It's a 91/41 in good condition (nice bore, great bluing and finish except for the bolt which had a small amount of rust which I quickly cleaned) except for something odd.

Someone stripped all the metal parts from the stock except the reinforcement block.
No butt plate, sling mounts, barrels bands, nothing so much as a screw.
It looks like it hasn't even been fitted with any parts before frankly.
So.
I either got an unfinished rifle that some fucktard shot a few times, or a project someone said fuck it to.
No gain twist rifling sadly.
Any advice on reloading 6.5 Carcano?
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>>34620722
I load 6.5 Japanese and 6.5 Swede, but I really like 140 grain hornady amax. Not sure how it would shoot with a carcano
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>>34620722
.268 caliber bullets not .264
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>>34620722
Also, forgot pics.
I got it on the way home from a quick range trip to try out my FAL (which, having messed with the hammer spring, actually funtions close to properly now although is still quite high in the gas setting it requires)

Also, one other interesting thing about the trip...
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>>34620761
I got my first malfunction in my Hakim.
Can you take a wild guess what it was, based on my pic?

Also, for my fellow Hakim owners, the cheap Romanian shit functions great in the rifle because the bolt is heavy enough and the tolerances generous enough that it gives no fucks.
Just keep a cleaning rod handy and the gas setting as low as possible (don't have it anything but absolute minimum unlike my retarded ass)
Also, blatant shilling courtesy of Steyr, because their open house was cool as fuck.
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>>34620799
Damn, forgot the pic related again.
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>>34620799
Hakim owner here - I've always had my Hakim spray me with corrosive shit from the DI. Does messing with the gas adjustment help with that? I shoot Romanian ammo as well
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>>34620826
Just put the arrow on the click that's farthest left (any further shuts the gas port completely)

And it's DI with no cover to keep shit out of your face. It's not really something we can avoid.
And I mean the green sealed stuff everyone says is out of spec and doesn't feed right in the bolt actions, not the nice red lacquer stuff I save for my bolt guns.
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>>34620799
I've had the complete opposite with the new production Romanian shit. Failure to extract every few rounds.
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The new girl. If she isn't beautiful I don't know what is.
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>>34620865
By taking off the rim like mine did?
Or by breaking the extractor?
I have been saving my surplus red lacquer for my Mauser.
The green lacquer stuff I bout almost five years ago before I knew better.
I only tried it on a whim, and while it's not as nice as the Iranian stuff (never thought I'd say that) it's still available and cheap.
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>>34620876
Forgot the pic like the idiot I am
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>>34620865
I've had good luck with old 8mm. Worst ammo i have is a bin of 7.62x45... at least half FTF. Not really worth shooting
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>>34620632
On the one of mine that sometimes does it I just push the cleaning rod in and wiggle it around.
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>>34616966
1912 handnugget
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>>34620889
The case would just stick. My extractor is fine. That's why I tired using the still case because the extractor grooves on my brass were being shredded.

I had to mortar the rifle to remove the case.
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>>34619806
If you like reloading and having a bleedingly accurate handgun, yeah. You fucked up.

If you just want a surplus plunked then no.
You did well.
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>>34620826
>shooting corrosive ammo out of a gun they only made 70k of

But why?
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>>34620923
And side 2
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>>34620934
Because I clean dat ass
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>>34620826
It's a true DI gun, so not really.

Just wear glasses, that's what I do. I also wash my face after shooting it.
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>>34620930
some guy is trying to get me to sell my rail-less IMI jericho.

have too many guns, but know I won't be able to replace it, even though it isn't worth a whole lot.
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>>34620934
Corrosive is cheap and the Yugo ammo is super quality stuff. Mine loves it
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>>34620934
Because it's something I had lying around.
I bought a 400 round case from SAMCO a year before they went under. It stank to all hell and it wasn't pleasant to shoot from my M48, and I wasn't gonna risk it with my Gewehr 88, but wanted something to get rid of it quicker.

I got it for $325, two Izhevsk '74 mags and an L1A1 bolt (stripped).
It was cheap and worked well.
If it helps, I also sent some Yugoslavian stuff through it and it shot seriously well especially cinsidering I'm a shitty aim.
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>>34620722
You absolutely need to use long round nose bullets like the original military loading. Hornady makes a .267 bullet specifically for the Carcano. You should slug the bore first though.
t. 1891 Owner
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>>34620956
First off, do you enjoy the gun?
If not, then start figuring out a fair price.
If you do, then just tell him to fuck himself.
>>34620958
Wonderful! You'rs has a matching stock that hasn't been refinished!
Mine kinda got bubba'd it seems. I doubt they had ultra-shiny varnished stocks.
>>34620954
Can confirm, aviators best gas shields.
>>34620926
Interesting. Have you tried upping it a notch on the system?
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>>34620893
>>34620876
It's a Type 99. Post a pic like this and I'll tell you what the series and manufacturer who made it is.
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>>34620985
But didn't they eventually swap to spitzer?
And where might I source some of the round nosed projectiles?
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>>34620987
Yeah, I turned it up to the third setting, I'm not willing to turn it up more than that, without having spare parts.
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>>34620987
>First off, do you enjoy the gun?
Yes, but I have other CZ-75 based funs
>If not, then start figuring out a fair price.
I keep an autistic log of presumed resale values for insurance purposes.
>If you do, then just tell him to fuck himself.
Dunno...
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>>34621012
Good plan.
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>>34621013
>dat taste
Bueno
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>>34621006
The 6.5s never went to a spitzer. The 7.35s did but I have no experience with them. I've had issues with feeding the shorter PPU bullets using both repro and original clips. MidwayUSA carries the Hornady .267 bullets. Interestingly enough on the PPU international website they list loading 6.5 Carcano with .268 160grn RNs but for some reason we don't get them here in the US
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>>34620996
I know it's a 99 dummy
It came from Kogyo
Tell me what year please
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>>34621072
>It came from Kogyo
It was made by Tokyo Juki Kogyo (Tokyo Heavy Machinery Manufacturing corporation). It's a 37th series. My Type 99 with all of the 'bits' is also a 37th series. It would have been made around 1942.

It's a pretty uncommon maker. With about 95,000 made by them in total. 56k from the 37th series (with the first 21k or thereabouts made with all of the 'bits') and about 40k made in the 27th series. And yes, the 27th series was made after the 37th.
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>>34621072
Is it matching btw?

The company now makes sewing machines under the name of Juki. Chances are what you're wearing now was made on their machines. They make a lot of the big industrial sewing machines.
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Anyone have experience with the process of importing firearms or parts into the US?
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>>34620987
Hakims are few and far between anymore, as long as the stock hasn't been mutilated, you're not doing too bad
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>>34620893
that's a very nice type 99, how much of it is matching?
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>>34621130
Thanks friend. Yeah, all visible serials are matching, although the firing pin is unnumbered
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>>34621150
See >>34621159
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Post yer 110+ year olds
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>>34621159
Nice! Scrubbed or intact mum? Looks like a leather sling? Original?
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>>34621168
Nice!
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>>34621179
okay
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>>34621179
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>>34621179
Here you go lad
Hope you guys like shitty oversized carpet photos
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>>34621184
Original sling, and lemme tell ya: that copper rust on the buckle ain't pretty. Mum is scrubbed, but I don't have too much of a gripe about that because I think the Japs frantically filing them down at the harbor in the wake of their defeat is pretty historical in and of itself.
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>>34621179
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>>34621215
What's not pretty about the buckle? At least the leather slings don't fall apart like the rubberized canvas ones do.
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>>34621179
1890 Steyr.
Reached unfortunately, but it's a pre-war conversion.
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>>34621143
Yup.
Now to get my mitts on an AG-42
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>>34621179
Oldest I've got is 105
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>>34621192
Thanks. I'll give her a good cleaning tomorrow then take some pics in better lighting.

>>34621228
There's that green stuff that's accumulated over the years like with the Statue of Liberty. Nothing a good cleaning won't fix tho. Pic related, I wiped some down already.
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Does anyone have a infographic or pic that shows the proper way to load rounds into a stripper clip. More specifically does someone have one for .303 in enfield strippers to prevent rimlock
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>>34621308
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>>34621305
Meh. Verdigris is nothing to be worried about on it. It's only annoying when it's on brass rivets since they will eventually pop them off as you can't get inside and clean the crap out.
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>>34621318
sweet thanks
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>>34621179
>Post yer 110+ year olds
Only have this one. My Swede will hit that mark next year, and my Type-38 the year after that.
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>>34621179
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>>34621179
Ok.
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>>34621565
Whoops, wrong crest.
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>>34621514
got you beat
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>>34618985

Does he say what KIND of mauser beyond Yugo?

>>34619051

Not enough gun.
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>>34619636

I don't, yet. I'm living with my parents ATM and my mom is a cunt about my guns. Once she's back to work in September I'm gonna try to take a bunch of pics outside.

>>34620184

Pretty good, I'd buy it in a heartbeat if it was me. Saw one over here for $600 with no finish and no ammo.

>>34620322

Nice!
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>>34621179
>tfw I sold my only ones
Oh well. Easy come easy go.
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>>34621179

I don't have a separate pic of my Trapdoor yet.
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What can you guys tell me about the Vetterli model 1871? My grandfather inherited from his family. I don't actually have it on hand so im not sure of the exact model actually...only that the 1871 looks like it by memory....
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>>34621179
My 1893 Turkish Mauser made in 1894.
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>>34621179
Also have my 1896/11 made in 1900.
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>>34619051
Sell me one of your Steyr M95 long rifles please.
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>>34622003
no

>>34621632
it wont be enough til i have them all

>>34619087
not enough mausers

>>34619055
too bad, brother brews beer. He has a few on tap around town.

>>34619086
Fire system is installed.
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>fn49 coming
>it's in 7mm mauser
>no idea if this thing can handle commercial

I assume I should avoid commercial ammo on the precaution that it will blow the oprod into fucking oblivion?

stick with PPU?
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4am can't sleep, so I'm going to shit post
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There's a Madsen lightweight for sale for $800 near me
I can't quite afford it even if he takes my trade of an 1897+cash
Should I say fuck the rent and get it anyway?
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Can anyone tell me about Turkish mausers?
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>>34623045
He said he would go down to $250, but I might be able to go lower. Would this be worth it or are these things shitsticks? I forgot to get a pic of the entire gun, but it's in nice condition and overall gorgeous
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>>34622067
Yes. Or reload.
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>>34623053
250 is reasonable for a Turk 93 mauser. I paid 300 for mine (>>34621013
) iirc.
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>>34621179
She's 120 but shoots amazing.
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>>34620061
Yeah she's a pretty one.
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>>34623045
>Can anyone tell me about Turkish mausers?
Yes. That's not a Mauser; it's a re-worked Gew.88. Amberg manufacture, by the look of the residual crest. Collectors call these Turkish re-built Gew.88s "Gew.88/05/35" based on the earliest-observed date of conversion. Turk rifles are fine if you want a shooter.

>>34623053
>He said he would go down to $250
Does the bolt match? Matching bolts are uncommon on Turks; it would definitely be worth $250 if the bolt matches, but I think the stock has been refinished. Post more pics.
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Some guy at a local flea market has a Fn 1900 pistol for sale. It's marked Nationale Nationale Nationale upside down and the slide. I can't find anything similar online, is this likely a Chinese copy?
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>>34624161
on the slide*
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>>34624172
Yeah it's a chink copy
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>>34620930
I do like reloading, although now I'm only doing .50-70, .303, 5.56, 9mm and .308. I've got an article somewhere around here on reloading specifically for the Webley.

A Mk. VI will come eventually, I'm holding out for an unconverted one. A Webley is my "gun that got away," I couldn't come up with $300 in high school in time to buy one (that is, talk my Dad into buying...) an unconverted gun that popped up in a pawnshop in the town I grew up in. I'm also a bit of an anglophile when it comes to guns, so I need something to compliment my Mk. 3* and L1A1.
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>>34624488
Thought so. Might see if I can pick it up real cheap just to have it.javascript:;
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>>34624509

>javascript

fucking pleb web developers
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I love russian / commie guns. I have the usual suspects : mosin, sks, nagant revolver, and a tok on the way. Is there anything that fits the bill in the $600 and under area that I don't have?
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>>34625032
A Makarov of some sort
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>>34617000
yes. 8mm. Its a neat rifle, but the action is not as nice as a normal 98 action mauser.

I literally only took it too the range once.

Safe Queen now.
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>>34625032
Tokarev
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>>34617000
So one of my dealers at the show I went to today mentioned having a "Portuguese Mauser, with the open top" that he forgot to bring with him. So next month, God willing, I'll join the club.
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>>34625098
Yeah that would be a good fit. I always forget those. I had wanted one of the rifles that shot 7.62x25 but they are either all gone or rather shitty ones. Somebody has posted to /k/ with one that has a wood stock, and I would love one of those.
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>>34625152
Did you end up picking anything up today?
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>>34625104
>but the action is not as nice as a normal 98 action mauser.

How so?
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>>34625273
Na. The guys with the Belgian carbine weren't there and nothing else really interested me. Good amount a milsurp but just didn't see what I wanted.
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>>34618588
>>34618624
>>34618602

3rd shift best shift, filthy daywalkers.

>>34618568
>>34618583
I have one and its nothing special/worth talking about.
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>>34621179
i have a lot, over 10
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>>34625281
so its fine to finger fuck, but once you load up live rounds its a smidge stiff. I haven't slugged the bore cause shes not worth doing custom loads for anyway.

Basically its worth getting as a collection hole filler, but if you're looking for a nice shooter then go for a 98k or even a Gew88. The actions are much smoother and they are nicer to shoot. Plus a 98A or K-29 will basically have the same sights if thats part of the appeal for you.
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>>34625311
>its nothing special/worth talking about.
But it's cool and almost a Mannlicher. That's worth talking about in and of itself.
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>>34625396
I guess. I mean I dont regret buying it, and its not up for sale, but I was hoping it would be a nice shooter to take out occasionally --- offer a unique experience (technically it does, but not in a good way).

It was just a bit of a disappointment and I have no reason to waste ammo on it, when I have over a dozen other 8mm that are more fun to shoot.

pic fuckin related
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>>34621194
is that a famas ?
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>>34625435
close, thats an early prototype, call the samaf
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>>34625424
Well there's part of your problem. I have little interest in the 8mm version. Either 6.5 or 7mm for me.
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>>34625446
good luck. hopefully they are more fun to shoot.

>i need to reload for pic related, but I cannot find the powder I want (IMR 3031) anywhere local
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>>34625442

meme aside I taught it was a MAS 36 or a Lebel.
What is it exactly ?
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>>34625486
Berthier Mle16
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me love you long time
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>>34625470
Only one way to find out.
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>>34620761
Do you happen to be in alabama? Lgs here had one that looked almost identical for like $150
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I didn't buy the Enfield used in WWI and WWII at my gunshow ($800) did I fuck up?
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>>34625633
No, you did not. You can find Mk3s all day long for 400-500.
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>>34625355
A shop by me has an Argentine 1891 "Mule" for $550ish. Good Price? It's not sporterized either.
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>>34625633
only if it was a sniper or one of these
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>>34625651
Argentine Mausers are fantastic rifles. Its worth every bit of the $550 if the bore is nice.
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>>34625633
>($800)
>did I fuck up?
Really need more info on the Enfield, but
>$800
Probably not, unless it was an MLE, CLLE, or SMLE Mk.I

>>34625651
>Argentine 1891 "Mule"
Elaborate on "Mule".
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>>34625515
japan no rove you rong time, china rove you rong time
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>>34625515
you got that at the OGCA gunshow in wilmington didn't you.
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What cleaning rods do you guys use? Currently I'm using a segmented aluminum one but I heard those can damage the rifling if your gun
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>>34621751
I like mine. It can be be converted to centerfield and rounds can be made from 8 mm lebel or .348 Winchester if you are reloading savvy. I'll post pics of my conversion if you want, I took a bunch of pics planning on starting a thread but never got around to it.
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>>34625678
Calvary Carbine. Kicks like a fucking mule. Equine reference and its stout kick=mule.
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>>34626104
One piece carbon fiber. Or one piece steel covered in rubber Matched to the bore size. I've heard people say the segmented aluminum or steel rods can damage the bore but I'm not sure I believe that because of the whole softer metal can scratch harder metal thing. The one piece rods are definitely worth the cost in my opinion.
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>>34626104
Otis flex-cable system
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>>34618864
If you find that kind of job, let me know. I know your feels
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>>34626235
Any particular brand you recommend?
Yeah that doesn't make sense to me either because most surps come with steel cleaning rods that can't possibly be less damaging than aluminum. But I'll play on the safe side with surp
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HON HON time to franc post
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Hey guys, I need help with identifying this bayonet. Does anyone have any ideas?
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>>34626395
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>>34626395
Looks like a Turkish Mauser bayonet, but the button is on the opposite side. Maybe a converted earlier example?
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>>34626395
Here's the other side
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>>34621179
Springfield 1863 from 1863, 154 Years old. Oldest complete Gun in my collection and I've shot it, too. Pictured with an 1896 Krag-Jorgensen manufactured in the model year.

Have a Brown Bess lock from 1779 as a part of an as-of-yet unassembled/unrestored IMA Brown Bess "kit", though.
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>>34626626
Wrong Pic, but still the 1863.
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>>34626626
And the Bess Lock.
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Gotta love people faking shit
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/671111528
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>>34626694
I hope you can report that to gb
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Some guy is trying to sell a japanese revolver claiming it's an antique, yet it's manufactured after 1899. His claim is since the ammo is no longer manufactured in the US and is based off a pre 1899 design, it qualifies as an antique. Is this a legitimate claim? In a transfer like this if he was wrong, who would the blame lay with?
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>>34626718
He's wrong. Doesn't matter if it's based on a pre 1899 design.
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>>34626330
J dewey
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>>34625470
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2185123296/imr-3031-smokeless-powder

>>34625924

[Trumpvoice]China?[/Trumpvoice]

>>34626354

Can't frog post until next week when I get my FAMAS 36.
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for fucks sake why was every ross bubba'd
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>>34626926

Because "Muh durr gun".
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whats a fair price on a numbers matching pristine brazilian mauser. Im not crazy about them but the lgs has one and I got gun fever
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>>34626926
Because God is not just or benevolent.
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>>34625616
Purchased from larry's west.
They have two others, both more butchered than this.
One's an actual 91 and the other is...fuck. I dunno, bubba'd I guess.
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>>34616946
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>>34620799
I spray steel cased shit with Remoil before loading. Makes it dirty, but I haven't had a FTE since I started doing that.
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So I need a little bit of help today buds
I recently bought a MKVI Webley, got it for cheap yadda yadda yadda.
In my post-purchase high I went online and bought some ammo, the only place I could find .455 in stock. It turns out I bought .455 Eley.
I've heard that they're interchangeable, is this true?
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>>34627402
Holy shit, that's the exact one I was thinking of getting...weird
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r8 or h8
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>>34624144
Everything is matching, incoming pics!
>All my pictures are too big for 4chan
Well, I tried compressing them, they're gonna look terrible
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>>34627864

make sure that bitch ain't been cut for .45 ACP first.

but yes, .455 eley and webley are the same cartridge.
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>>34628019
I have one of those.
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>>34628019
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>>34627864
Same cartridge, but your revolver looks to be one that was shaved to shoot .45ACP, which is totally unsafe to do. I think someone was making some spacers for them to make up the gap in the back, but don't quote me on that.
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>>34626926
>>34627071

God is indifferent, and that's why people get away with doing terrible things, like ruining milsurp
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>>34628008
Some stocks look tampered with, but very nice variety collection.
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>>34628063
>>34628043
Awesome!
Any idea what these stars / moon+star mean?
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>>34626889
Chinese marked kar98?
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>>34628115
Possibly Turk'd?
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>>34628115
The nice old man I bought it from also gave me some neat ammo
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>>34628071
fuck I had completely forgot about that
shit. Mine is shaved goddammit.
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>>34628183
Can someone tell me more about this other ammo he gave me?
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/nogunz/ here, I want to buy a good milsurp rifle for my first gun, any suggestions?
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>>34628246
It's 8x56R for the Steyr M95
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>>34628228
But its not shaved that bad as others? only half way through the serial numbers. is it still safe to shoot .455? Just a bit scared I fucked up
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>>34628257
neat, looks like that's what I'm buying next
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>>34627954
Well hah hah.
FUCK YOU, IT'S MINE NOW BITCH!
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>>34628115
The moon and stars were just Turkish proof marks
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>>34628115
Rifle of the Nerevarine.
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>>34628086
The mosin was a rescue of mine where someone had stripped the original lacquer off, the garand came like that from the cmp, and the 1903 was bought from a company that put on new gorgeous stocks and i just build up that finish with tru oil. Otherwise, everything is original
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>>34628253
Mosin
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>>34628253
>First gun
Something that isn't milsurp. They don't make good first guns.
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Anyone got a suggestion for a mak IWB holster? I've been carrying it in my pocket but I got too much stuff in my pockets at work to carry.
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>>34628328
Enjoy. I still might go back and get one of the other ones. Can't decide if I want a cacarno or not
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>>34621354
My LGS had an Argie that I missed out on because I'm a poorfag.
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>>34628253
A Mauser of some kind, maybe a Yugo mauser, they're usually pretty cheap. Also depends on what you can find. SKS is still a good option depending on price.
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>>34628253
None
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>>34628253
A bolt action .22LR.
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Where is the serial number on a Type 99's dust cover? I can't find it anywhere
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>>34628130
Chiang Shek Rifle, essentially a Chinese produced VZ24
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>>34628927
Afaik some were not marked. It's stamped on the very back edge of the dust cover.
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>>34626199
>Calvary Carbine.
>$550
I guess if it floats your boat and is in good condition. In my experience the carbines show a lot more use than the long rifles.

>>34626395
>>34626408
>>34626429
Turkish M35 bayonet made from a shortened British Pattern 1907 bayonet.

>>34628019
>>34628063
>Everything is matching
Cool beans. Did you buy it?

>>34628115
The crescent-and-star on the bolt head is a Turkish property mark. They only used it for a few years during the early Republic period. At that time they also bought a lot of spare Gew.88 parts from CZ-Brno in Czechoslovakia, so your rifle may have some Circle-Z-proofed parts.

>>34628183
Egyptian 196gr ball. Good ammo.

>>34629010
>a Chinese produced VZ24
No, a Chinese copy of the Mauser Standardmodell rifle.
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CMP has another batch of M1's up. I've already got one, should I get another just because they're probably gonna run out forever soon?
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>>34629145
>Cool beans. Did you buy it?
Yeah! I feel it matches my Yugo M48, in a sense.
A Turkish Gew. 88 and a Yugoslavian Kar. 98, like cousins

>Egyptian 196gr ball. Good ammo.
Dumb question, but is it corrosive and or reloadable?
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How much would you goys offer for a k98 with proofs? Or a BRNO? I need me a Mauser.
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>>34629633
Forgot pic
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>>34629607
>Dumb question, but is it corrosive and or reloadable?

Yes, it's corrosive. It's not reloadable.

Don't use it in semi-autos
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>>34629633
>>34629651
$200 is my top dollar for anything bubba'd, unless it's extremely rare.

You can get a Russian capture K98K for around $600
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>>34629651
Both of those are sportered so 150 max. You can find proper examples of the vz24 for under 300 on Gunbroker all day.
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>>34629145
>Mauser Standardmodell
Thanks, I didn't even know of that variant.
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Bought this at a yardsale today for $100. Chinese Type 53 w/ weird bolt-on muzzle brake. I already have a Type 53 but I figured for the price I couldn't go wrong.
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>>34628612
Hey, if you want a cool carcano, I don't know if they still have it but I sold them one of the butchered carbines.
It's the one with the plastic butt pad and fixed sights.

It's beretta made as I recall, BUT, IT'S FINNISH MARKED!
You might not have it all original but they have it on the rack for around $120 (it's 7.35 and I sold it for $75, you can probably give them $100 even)

If you want a cool project gun.
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>>34629651
Those poor fucking guns. God really has abandoned us.
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>>34629904
Sounds intriguing
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>>34629651
Bubba will never be satisfied
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>>34624144
>>34628019
What would be a good price for one of the Gew. 88/05/35s? There receivers were strengthened for somewhat higher pressure loads compared to the regular 88s right?
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>>34630198
You can only strengthen an action so much. Any G.88 even if it was modified by Jesus himself shouldn't be fired with full power military 8mm Mauser
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>>34629819
>find the only Mosin in the whole USA that is still $100.
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Should I get an original or repro sling for my SMLE
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>>34630529
Depends, how autistic are you?

I got a repro for my #4, it doesn't look right to me.
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>>34630585
I just want the correct style. I'd like to get one from the same manufacturer but it doesn't matter as much as the actual function
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My local gunstore has a rather pristine Egyptian FN-49 for $875. At that price, is it worth a full yolo and assfucking my wallet for it? It won't stop me from buying food or anything like that, just would result in me spending more than I would usually like to.
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>>34630666
It's a Century built one, I'd avoid it.
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>>34629419
They have the same WRAs they've always had
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>>34630690
I'm not too well read on the history of the gun, but is the issue with Century that it's not as well built, or is it just less collectable? My understanding is they built some from spare parts laying around and resold those, making what's more or less a rearsenaled one.

My issue is that it is a gun that I do have some interest in already, plus I was already hoping to have my next gun be either a nice milsurp gun or some sort of battlerifle thing. The whole not paying for shipping and FFL transfer has its appeal as well.
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PENUS WEEENUS HEHEHEHE HE HE HE PEEEEEEEEEEEEEENUS WEEEEEENUS POOOOOOP PPPPPOOOOOOO
POOOOOPIE POOOOOOO POOOOOOOOOO POOOOOOOOOOOO PEEE PEEEE MY PEANUS WEEEEENUS HAHAHAHAH XDDDD
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>>34630198
Just use PPU, fucktard.
And ONLY after you've slugged the bore.
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I have a sudden urge to obtain a Steyr M95
Are they any good? I can only find one in Canada and its the long style one for $550
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>>34630819
Century is known to fuck up anything and everything
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>>34630396
>>34630878
Would $350 be a decent price for one? Receiver and bolt match but misc parts do not, stock bands etc.
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>>34631021
That's a fair price. And for the record, the Gew 88 action isn't particularly weak. They handle regular Gew 98 154gr loads just fine.
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>>34631137
I'll handle your hot load onii-chan
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>>34629672
>Don't use it in semi-autos
Egyptian 8x57 was made for use in semi-autos tho.

>>34630198
>There receivers were strengthened for somewhat higher pressure loads compared to the regular 88s right?
Not at all, but the Gew.88 action is plenty strong on its own. Besides, all the Turk 88/05/35 barrels have .323" bores. >>34631021

>Would $350 be a decent price for one? >Receiver and bolt match but misc parts do not, stock bands etc.
Seems a little much to me but finding a Turk with a matching bolt is uncommon.
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>>34631137
He still needs to slug the bore. And the Gew.88 isn't weak but it is weaker than the G.98 and doesn't have as good of gas venting in case of cartridge failure. He really shouldn't shoot any of the commonly available heavy surp out there
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>>34631303
As >>34631271 said, all 88/05/35s are .323 bore. The vast majority of commercially available ammo is fine and even some of the heavy shit, though you are right about gas ventilation. But that doesn't have anything to do action strength.
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>>34631338
Gas ventilation does matter when most of the common surp is of dubious quality.
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Dumping all of mine.
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>>34631593
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>>34631606
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>>34631614
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>>34631622
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>>34631443
It doesn't matter in regards to action strength.
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>>34625932
nope, never been to Wilmington.
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>>34626889
>https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2185123296/imr-3031-smokeless-powder

>$30 for shipping

Im a jew
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>>34628130

As the other anon said, it's a Type 24/Chiang Kai-Shek rifle. Supposedly the standard issue for China during WW2, but they never had enough of them.
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>>34629819
that muzzle brake alone is worth $50

great buy anon!
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>>34629419

They're getting new ones from the Phillipines.

>>34629904

There's a lot of Finn-marked Carcanos, the Italians dumped their 91/38s on the Finns once they realize that switching calibers (especially to a shitty one) in the middle of a war was a bad idea.
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>>34630666
1. FN49s kick fucking ass

2. Not every Century one is fucked up, most are good to go

sauce: I've fired a variety of FN49s, both Century and Surplus - only one that ever had issues was a Belgian made surplus gun that had headspace problems that caused FTEs.
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>>34626694
> I believe the German Nazi proof marks are not original.

at least the seller is honest in the description
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>>34631836

how can you tell if one is a century built?

I bought a Venezuelan fn49 and have no idea if century touched it.
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>>34631992
They didn't. The only Century built ones are Egyptian.
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>>34632029

god bless
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