Military surplus thread / camo.

Some of the best stuff you can get is Brit from what I've gathered.

>>34614373
Don't buy a DPM Smock, MTP ones have far better pockets and imo are far more comfortable

>>34614395
Do you recommend any websites? Want a comfy outer layer preferably somewhat water/wind proof.

>>34614408
If you're in the UK then most surplus stores/amazon will have MTP smocks, outside of that I'm not sure, it's current issue kit so I can't see much of it getting abroad

but comfy/somewhat waterproof/windproof describes our smocks pretty well I'd say, done January exercises in Salisbury planes/Otterburn in the bollock shrivelling cold and the smocks do help a lot, There's absolutely no point wearing one with a chest rig however as it makes about 8 pockets inaccessible

>>34614471
Not UK, but still in Europe, i'll check them out if they're not too expensive.

>>34614373
Thatchreed Clothing (supplier) also sell on civilian market, under "O.G." brandname .

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>>34614373
>Sewing a miniature patch of your country's flag onto a jacket
>Particularly one with velcro slots

Why the fuck do they (meaning just Britain and Germany I guess) do this? Pride of their GDP?

I guess a positive is it's kept me from buying meme flecktarn all this time.

>>34614751
Cant you tear the seams?

>>34614751
The newer MTP smocks only feature the flag on the velcro patches, not on the smock itself

the reason for it is historical, the colour/flag bearer would stand to the right of the line, so when you look to your right, you'll see the flag on the left arm of the man beside you.

That's the reason the Brits do it anyway, same reason we call it a Leftenant rather than Lieutenant, it means the same "In lieu of the line"/"Left of the line", so historically he would stand on the left

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>>34614751
Because it looks nice, it's patriotic, and allie as fuck. Stay mad murifags.

>>34614408
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/bestsearch/windproof%20smock?q=windproof%20smock

I recently bought their own improved version of windproof smock (Särmä windproof smock) and it is now my number 1 go jacket. It has all the improvements of latest (MPT) versions and some, plus one does not need to advertise one's autism by wearing camo at public places all the time.

Also for its price British North Ireland patrol pack is a comfy and durable rucksack for daily use.

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>>34615104
>Patriotism
>Germany

Vorsichtig mein komrade

>Patriotism
>Britain

Part and parcel, friend.

>>34614751
>it's kept me from buying meme flecktarn all this time
That's precisely why we did it.

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>>34615196
Alles klar freund, I should of made it clear I was speaking from a bong perspective. I thought my language made it clear; but thanks for allowing me to reiterate. Have a photo of my tortoise as thanks! :)

>>34615196
Fucking well done anon. Go beat a friend when he's lying on the ground. Next someone will go full /pol/ muh 59% and post some story about american flags before forbidden at schools on sinking mayonnaise day and then this entire thread will go to shit.

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>>34615253
You don't get it do you?

>>34615196
Britain is Patriotic, just not London or Birmingham


Or Cornwall

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>>34615262
>Getting this ass blasted from a Tanzania agricultural printmaking website

Nice text diarrhea there, i'd ask what the hell you even meant by it but then we'd stray further off topic.

I hope that nerve's okay though, it seems I hit it pretty hard.

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>>34615267

I like the newer version of DPM. I wear a surplus UK Army jacket and pants for hunting and hikes and neither has failed me yet. On the other hand I had a whole set of the older webbing and it was heavy as fuck. If incredibly solid. But the jacket pockets are roomy and anyone wearing webbing in the forests of my country looks like a total idiot anyway. It's backpack or nothing.

>>34615151
I have an Arktis one now in plain green for all my /out/ shit, excellent quality but it cost a lot. I do wish it had the under armpip zips but everything else is perfect. I wore my smock year round inna infantry, dumbasses didn't know about covering up from the sun and those things were perfect for it; you just unzip the armpips and open it half way down your chest with a t-shirt underneath. Actually cooler than a shirt and more practical in the field. And in the winter you zip everything up and you've got a hard wearing, relatively quick drying, fire-resistant shell layer with lots of pockets and a hood and vents. Those things are one of the best top layers of all time, jack of all trades.

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>>34615267

>>34615495
Any civilian wearing webbing anywhere looks like a total idiot. A lot of faggots in the army even look like total idiots wearing webbing because they made it or bought it shit tier.

I left and sold mine to airshitters on ebay for almost as much as I payed for it, and by the end of my time that beltkit owned me nothing. I think part of the reason it sold for so much was that it looked the part; authentically worn. You can literally sell Camelbak Motherlodes for as much as you payed for them new provided you put a few years of use onto them so they appeal to the shitters. Guys were selling the old Talons for like £250 and shit on fleabay when they left.

>>34616308

What is this Arktis garment you speak of? My experience with -30C is that anything with a zipper is a bad thing. But my experience is aging so maybe some new product type manages it?

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>>34616368
>I left and sold mine to airshitters on ebay for almost as much as I payed for it

I did that with all my kit when I left lmao, offloaded my daysack, belt kit, just flogged them as authentic Royal Marine issue kit to retard fat fuck airshitters for ridiculous prices, convinced one of them to buy a pair of peltors for 300 quid the utter loon

Also sold some shitty contact gloves I'd never worn for like 120 quid, told the lad I'd been issued them on a joint exercise with 21 SAS by their CQMS and never wore them

Santa lets you pick one thing from the black bag, what do you pick?

https://www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/Black_Bag_A5_booklet.pdf

>>34615196
Patriotism and nazism are two different things freund.
You can love deutschland, that doesn't make you a nazi.

>>34616545
Meindls.

>>34614751
Just get a tailor or something take the flag off

>>34614373
My go to trousers for anything that doesn't involve talking to people are british army surplus. Cheap, well made. Can't talk about any other British gear frok experience though.

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>>34616653
>needing a tailor to undo a few stitches
If you're under 18 you can't use 4chan ya know.

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>>34616424
Sounds familiar brother
> Got this guy in section
> Always making money through his schemes to fund his gambling addict
> brand new MTP comes in
> He "looses his"
Sold a brand new smock for over £2300 to A russian airsofter, same buyer spend another grand on the mk1 shirt and trousers

Same bloke used to collect biscuit browns and fruits on ebay for £20 a pair to airsofters. Makes me giggle.

I had all sorts of bids on my kit, I have all sorts of shit dating back to my Trusty Mk.VI and ECBA body armour from Banner, down to current issue, but i just can't seem to part with it.

>>34614408
https://www.silvermans.co.uk/

They have a big place down the Mile End Road in London. Been around donkeys ears

>>34616545

>this list

hahahhaha fuck me, any one man who has even half the shite on this list is fucking lying.

>combat gloves
>ammo grab bag
>Any decent boots
>cold weather deputy dog hats

Do it. Walk into the QM's and ask for combat gloves, watch them laugh at you.

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>>34614373
Not since we lost the Chink fighting suit and Mk 1 Hat, Brian, dangerous.

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>>34615253
Gerald is crying out for an Iron cross emblem like pic related.

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>>34618149
A tortoises shell is very porous and the chemicals in paint can be really harmful :(

>>34615392
US- 324.60 million to 3.3 million

UK- 65.14 million to 2.7 million

You really are dumb aren't you?

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>>34618271
coming from a bong; anyone trying to deny that the uk has turned into a caliphate is retarded, I fucking hate it but I can't deny it

>>34616964
>OP Banner
Get off 4chan dad.

>>34616964
>OP Banner
>There are RQMS' and washed up majors on 4chan

>>34616417
Just a particular make. I've never been in weather that cold but this has large buttons as well as a main zip. It's not really designed for that climate but I don't see why it wouldn't function reasonably well there, I know the Nordic snow smocks are basically a big polycotton tunic because. Same thing with this except it has a zip, pockets and buttons.

>>34616424
>a pair of peltors for 300 quid
So basically he got passive £20 ear pro for the cost of the fucking electronic 3M ComTac XP ones that Colour Boys always say are all issued out, unless you're in guns or snipers then your hearing is magically more important and they appear on the shelves.

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>>34614373
Has anyone here ordered from the Kommandostore? Any good?

>>34618234
WACHSMALSTIFTE

Their new multimeme cammies look good. I got a pair of pants from Ebay.

>>34617651
>Been around donkeys ears
The phrase is donkey's years

>>34614751
The Dutch do it too (or at least they used to), as do the Swedes (although the Swedish government removes all insignia, including the flags on the shoulders, when they sell their gear for surplus).

>>34618129/
Where to cop a Dangerous Brian? Dangerous Brian and Chink jacket are a god tier homeless get-up.

>>34618308
>>34618645
I'm not that old. OP banner only ended 10 years ago...

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>>34622441
Ebay is your friend m80, haven't seen a classic DPM one for donkeys years in a surp store. They issue them in MTP now too, but it has nowhere near the same mongtastic appeal of the old one.

Seriously though: Mao suit + Dangerous Brian= the ultimate outfit for paraffins and winter woodcutting in the snow.

>>34618234
Did not know that. Cool tortoise, is Gerald a Hermann?

>>34622441
>>34623193
> Dangerous brian
> Chink suit
> Mao suit
This is a serious nostalgia, Half the time i spin a dit to the youngans in the platoon and they have no idea what i'm on about.
It fucking worries me that we have people born in 2017 in the army some times.

A couple didn't even know what a jetpack was and thought we flew around in them. One didn't even know what an assault vest was.

>>34623222
>One didn't even know what an assault vest was.
how in the fuck
we still issue those don't we?

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>>34623228
Na, its all Molle belts, or if you're unlucky its PLCE.

I had to train in 58' webbing (if you can call it that, it had two kirney pouches, the rest i had to bin as it faded white and it soaked up two tins of tiger black) , then i got issued a modified south african Assault vest type thing for banner, then i got given a molle chest rig just in time for Telic in 05.

He only found out what it was when he came over for a BBQ with the boys who found my man cave.

"Oh wow check out this retro ECBA, where do the plates go?"

Some of them were looking at a picture of me in front of a saxon with my mate with an L100 and me with an browning at basra, which surprisingly looked ally for 2005, Eugh whats that vehicle boss? Whats up with the Sharpe? what kind of glock is that?

worst thing is i'm only just 30, but to them i could have taken part in the battle of Omdurman.

>>34623302
I've just noticed in the top right hand corner you can just about make out "Top secret"

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>>34623208
Yes, he's an Eastern Hermann's. I inherited him from one of my old teachers about 6 years ago: when he was just a baby.

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>>34622062
If you can get some good GETS i'll do it

>>34623302
>modified south african webbing
please elaborate

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How widely issued are the new softie jackets? I have one, but I've met people from other units that had never seen them before.

>>34623708
I've never seen them before. So much more practical than just the fleece. At least that can be cleaned.

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>>34623605
It was a south african assault vest in IRR DPM.

It was a bona-fide one by an MOD contractor, unlike the cheap £20-£30 cadet replicas they churn out today.

It was deliberately missing one of the long side pouches and maybe a couple of others on one of the sides.

It weren't a bad little rig for wearing over your ECBA in NI. I'll have to dig it out for you.

>>34623708
>>34623721
They're only issued to the 160th infantry brigade and the royal marines as their deployment area is central / northern Europe.

https://www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/Black_Bag_A5_booklet.pdf
Its still not in the DE&S book though.

>>34623708
The old two-tone ones are a better overall package for warmth (and make great 'enemy' wear on exercise in December). Anyone who makes the 'it has a rank slide flap so it's an outer layer' argument is a cunt and should be told so forcefully, preferrably with a shovel head.

Besides, anything brand new is immediately not ally.

>>34616964
at some events an stuff like for example ten tors there are the vendors selling surp kit.

seeing osprey plate carriers for 15 quid makes my jew instincts tingle.

>>34622073
comfy as fuck
the old cold weather ones are comfier tho

>>34623758
please do if you can be arsed, i'm a huge fan of saffie equipment and non-MOLLE in general, as hated of an opinion as it is today.

>>34623708
my brother is in uotc and got issued one if that helps

>>34618303
As an actual bong, you're an idiot matey. The US is more New Africa and\or Mexico than the UK is a "Caliphate."

We haven't elected a jiggaboo as the leader of our country yet.

>>34623758
please post photos of all your kit and man cave grandad anon, its more special when every item has a story

>>34616368
>>34616424
>>34616964
Fuck I thought I was a genius doing this shite. Was at garrison when MTP was introduced. Sold off most of my old CS95 kit for £950 to young sprogs at their cadets and on Ebay. Selling it without your branding goes for fuck all, but stitching in nonsense and writing in stupid shit will go for a massive price.

I just couldn't bring myself to sell off my first pair of CS95's and my webbing, though. Have both sitting in a drawer, collecting dust.

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Has anyone actually seen the virtus shit in person? I can barely find anything on it, even though it's supposed to have been in service since last year
I'd like to know if their gay little plastic spine thing actually does anything
Also if it's any lighter than Osprey at all or if it's heavier and they just lied like usual

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>>34614751
Because Geneva expects you to be identifiable as a combatant from a particular country.

If you aren't the huge faggot you seem to be you'll take those flags of within a minute with a knife.

>>34623948
It's shit in every way, besides weight. The helmet is the only good part, and even that looks fucking gay

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>managed to snag one of the last Serbian genocide parkas off of Varusteleka before they went out of stock

feels good man

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Forgive poor quality picture, had to get inlaws to take photos as i'm away with the wife.

>>34623815
here you go, furthest to the right.

Funnily enough my wife is Half rhodesian from her mother and half saffie from her father.

When i first met her parents no man had the official endorsed by father until i did, went out had a couple of pints and he talked about his time in the border war. Her mother doesn't talk about rhodesia at all though.

Not shown ECBA and molle chest rig, they couldn't find them.

Before we got the MK1 osprey we used to wear webbing over armour so theres that. The osprey platres in a shit state and i need to clean it to get the carbon out, but there's something inside me nagging that i shouldn't.

>>34623841
I'm somewhat reluctant to show my mancave in its entirety due to PERSEC issues, that and its kind of like my sanctum, i only let people in who i want to, my wife knows better than to come in.

I do admit its got some cool stuff in there though, one of the last flags to be lowered from hong kong, an indian lancers pole, japanese good luck flag. I've even got two of my great grandfathers webleys that my dad went through hell with the section 7.3 licencing so that he could hand them down to me and my brother without mutilating and deactivating them.

>>34623857
Kind of sad,some of the shit me and my kit have been through have made it very dear to me.

>>34624010
I've heard the same thing, i've seen some videos of some

>>34624010
>I've heard the same thing, i've seen some videos of some
sorry brain fart.
... People using the spine as car jacks.

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now I am become milsurp, destroyer of wallets

>>34624252
>but there's something inside me nagging that i shouldn't.
Probably because it's covered in asbesto's mate

>>34624313
is that a Ukrainian shirt tied around your waste and crotch?

>>34624313
>>34624318
I've always wanted a real Altyn.

Unfortunately russia has its own ITAR that restricts anything composite with ballistic properties to be exported.

>>34624360
That explains my wheezing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSM_SO0GIBc

>>34624394
not strictly ukrainian per se, just a sleeveless telnyashka

>>34624410
interesting enough, I ordered my maska-1sch helmet from Grey-Shop in russia. It was technically illegal for them to send it to me, but they put "hat,replica" on the customs form. I know for a fact that it is NOT a replica.

>>34624456
did you put it on like a diaper?

>>34624500

дa

>>34621995
Good but shipping can take a while sometimes

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>>34616417
Not the guy you were asking, but probably the B110 combat smock. I ordered one from them in a custom pattern, I think they call it Comb Urban or something like that, they don't normally make the B110 with that pattern, but all I had to do was ask, and they said yes. It's a subtle combination of grey hexagons. It took a few months for me to get it once I ordered it, but it was worth the wait, it's very high quality. Cost me about $160 shipped to the US. Pic very related.

>>34624628
bit gay looking though isn't it

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>>34624628
Why do my pics always end up sideways?

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>>34624643
If you think grey camo is gay I suppose. I don't know, I like it, that's why I ordered it. I'm not here to please you.

>>34624473

Mate, it's Russia. When I was in Moscow I went to a knife store to stock up on some domestic Slav steel, bought a bunch of "collectors" knives. By law knives are considered weapons and are illegal to carry if they meet certain requirements including steel quality, otherwise they're considered tools/decorations and you can have them on you whenever you want with no valid reason needed. I walked out of that place carrying massive hunting knives in my pockets with a bunch of certificates from the shop confirming that they're not in fact weapons. That's how they work.

>>34624690
interesting. did you check out any surplus stores while you were there?

>>34624739

Yep, got a BARS Gorka 3K top and trousers for $40. They even threw in a matching field cap to go with it.

>>34624789
wow, thats a pretty decent price.

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>>34624797
>>34624838

>>34624854
report and hide, my friend

>>34623222
Africans still rock the Dangerous Brian. I went to BATUS and it literally became a part of their heads.

>>34624137
I've got a Serbian Genocide woolen blanket, it's actually a really great blanket and I'm a blanket connoisseur.

>>34624677
Mine is just plain green but I've used it /out/ twice now and it's been great both times. Surprisingly windproof for the regular unlined one, almost as good as actual windbreakers I own. I was on top of Bleaklow in gusts that pushed you around and it was keeping a great deal of it out, more than good enough for me anyway considering the other benefits it has over more single-purpose clothes.

I took the rank slide off. If I'm inna countryside I'll wear it day to day and it wouldn't look out of place, definitely not in town though.

>>34624137

Gotta admit, that parka looks bretty good.

>>34624677

Looks neat. How well padded is it?

One think I like about British field uniforms is that they have nice big buttons on everything. When you don't willingly remove your mittens even to piss if you can avoid it, that's a good thing.

Except that I would have absolutely hated them during my service. Spreading out camo nets over trucks is already hell, especially with just one pair of mittened hands. Those nets love buttons like they were free candy.

>>34625239
The PCS parkas have the buttons hidden under the flaps, anon
So long as you pick up one of the newer MTP ones instead of a DPM one you shouldn't have much issue with snagging

>>34624318
>>34624313

>Actual basement

>>34624981

Link to genocide blanket pls.

>>34626843
>his house only has one floor

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>>34624410
they just put replica airsoft and shit it
t.guy who bought russian 6b23-1M plates and got them shipped over to usa

>>34624252
just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make those pictures, i'll be sure to post my modernized yank LBV if i get around to finishing it soon.

>>34627229
where aboots? grey shop only do replicas now

>>34614373
You know there is already a thread right?

>>34627576
> Weekend Milsurp Thread 07/21/17(Fri)22:06:53
> Military surplus thread / camo 07/21/17(Fri)16:09:01
Do they have clocks where you are?

>>34614373
their modern stuff is trash. their chest rigs are literally NC star chest rigs in dpm

>>34627761
>their modern stuff is trash. their chest rigs are literally NC star chest rigs in dpm
did you even read the thread?
>>34624252

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>>34627775
i can't read i only react to pictures and loud noises. i remain in my world of piles of musty canvas

>>34627674
Got you beat by days.
MILSURP/CAMO/MILITARIA THRAED 07/15/17(Sat)12:25:42

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>>34625239
It's not insulated/padded at all, it's just a single layer of tightly woven poly/cotton ripstop. Basically it's a shell garment, but it's roomy enough to wear several layers under it if needed.

>>34624789
I am new to russian surplus. Is BARS a brand or just part of the name?

Also, how are SSO gorkas? Is that the official brand or just replicas?