What is the best semiauto of WW2 and why is the SVT-40?

That's a funny way of saying "M1 Garand".

>>34608491
>>34608505
That's a funny way of saying SKS.
Yeah yeah only in for a few months. Still counts

>>34608491
It wasn't even the best semiauto on the Eastern Front.

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>>34608491

>tfw codfags actually believe this jamtastic piece of shit thrown together by lightly supervised Jews is anything better than a passable service rifle.

>jamamatic shit rifle cobbled together by drunk babushkas
>good

>>34608550
That's not a G-43, although i can effeminately see how you could get the two confused.

>>34608491
AG-42B Ljungman

>>34608566

I said lightly supervised. The G43 was made by heavily supervised Jews, hence why it was better.

>>34608518
>only in for a few months
You realize the sks saw no combat in dub dub 2 right?

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>>34608591
Those sure are some neat semi-auto rifle!

>>34608491
Excuse me, that title rightfully belongs to US RIFLE CAL .30 M1

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Does anyone have one of these stainless gas piston sets for their svt? I have one in freedom land and I'm kind of hesitant to shoot it much because corrosive ammo... I bed to just sell the dang thing...

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>>34608491

Greatest battlefield implement ever devised.

this guy is baiting us, it was clearly the M1 Garand anyone who's actually fired the weapon would understand op is just baiting. He hasn't even fired an SKS point and proof https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9YXzzyzsBqC3JK_ZK-0Yhjyg3wlEYt6c-zxzeg7H4iA5nLUFIsVGBHMt9dtaMglXFwKU0m8=s151

>>34608587
but muh berlin prototypes

>>34608491
Adjustable gas system, decent sights, light weight. Can't really argue with the conclusion.

>>34608524
Germans copied the shot piston design. Germans picked them up and used them because they realy liked them.

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>>34608505
OP eternally rekt

>>34608491
>>34608793

Beat itself to death, not particularly reliable, a total cunt to maintain in comparison to other rifles.

>>34608863
Thumbs btfo

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Ok maybe op is wrong but can we atleast agree it looks sexy as shit

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>>34608883
>limp wristed commie can't pull the op rod all the way back

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>>34608865
>Beat itself to death
Maybe the AVT, but then at least auto was an option, is there a full auto m1?
Mine has been very reliable and the magazine and gas system are genius for the time. My only complaint is the stock retaining screw and mostly because I'm not in war and actually need to worry about corrosive ammo...

>>34608865
Wrong, wrong, and also wrong (the M1 is just as big of a pain to clean). Just because dumbasses don't know how to use the gas system doesn't mean the rifle is bad.

>>34608977
>the M1 is hard to clean
What's it like being retarded

>>34608977
What is with you and dickriding slavshit

>>34608961

It beat using a bolt gun. I'm not shitting on the SVT at all, there's just no need to say silly stuff like "It da best"

I also own one and I like it. It was a very forward thinking rifle. However, the M1 was all around a much better gun. The overall robustness as well as the enbloc system made it a lasting design; the SVT was obsolete within what, 7 years?

>>34608977
>Just because dumbasses don't know how to use the gas system doesn't mean the rifle is bad.
>Just because 99% of the Soviet army don't know how to use the gas system doesn't mean the rifle is bad.

>>34609018
This, between the AK series and then the Dragunov the SVT-40 became quite useless. It fulfilled its purpose as a semi-auto battle rifle in a country that was primarily using a bolt action rifle and smg for combat.

>>34608994
It's a pain in the ass to break down.
>>34609001
Sounds like your imagination.
>>34609021
(You)

>>34609018
>the SVT was obsolete within what, 7 years?
Because the Soviets moved to a intermediate cartridge while the Americans did not.

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>>34608491
I'm gonna have to say M1 Carbine to spite these Garand shills
>More suited to the average combat distance of WW2
>Lighter
>15 rounds instead of 8, or 10, doubling to 30 later on

If the M1 carbine had been chambered in something just a little hotter and with spitzer rounds, it would have outperformed every single other rifle in the war by a longshot (even more than the Garand)

>>34608587
Sks-45. 1945 year make. Very little issued

>>34609114
Didnt see widespread production until the early 50s though, much like the RPD which was designed two years earlier than the SKS
>lol russian logistics

>>34609053
>ignoring a valid argument
What's it like being so shitter shattered.
If your massive, illiterate, peasant army can't understand how to use a rifle to its fullest, that rifle fails to be any better than any other rifle

>>34608491
Listen here fucko,

Just because it's rare and overpriced in the US, and you either paid the ludicrous amount of dosh the command or fantasize about owning one, does not mean they're good.

The SVT is an interesting relic but it was far from the best battle rifle in WW2. Ask any group of gun owners that have access to them for reasonable prices (Canadians, Euroland) and you find out how shitty they are. There's reasons why the slavs dropped them fast as soon as the SKS was developed.

>>34609053
The m1 garand is ridiculously easy to take down compare to any other earlier self loader. You really are retarded

>>34608706

>unreliable as hell

>completely open system allowing dirt and water to pool, rendering gun useless (see mud test)

>can't handle full spec 30-06 and must use specialty reduced charge ammo (M2 BALL)

>canadian rifle

>>34609148

Fuck, they dropped them ever before that so they could focus production on Mosin-Nagants cause they lost most of them in the beginning of the war.

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>>34608919

>repro chargers

GROSS

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>>34608676
I sold mine. For a lot....and bought a sp5k...>>34608491

>>34609104
Except it was a jammomatic piece of shit.
The Carbine wasn't suited to front line use, we didn't realize it until Korea unfortunately

>>34609197
You sir...you lie.


Tell me about heavy coat penetration next grandpa

>>34608505
First post best post as always.


The M1 Garand smoked all other rifles, especially this overcomplicated piece of shit

>>34608491
>slavshit
>>>/trash/

>>34609171
>never touched a garand
>what is a clip fed action
>what is an adjustable gas plug
>envy

>>34609216
M1 Garand fanboys sure are smoking a lot of dick that's for sure.

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>>34609246
>Europoor detected

Not my fault your country didn't have the foresight to field a legendary semi-auto.

>>34609148
What's funny is that even the ones us Finns captured and tried to rework still aren't that great. It's overall just a shitty gun that beats itself to death, is barely accurate to hit man-size targets, and the ones you do find in good condition don't stay in good condition for long (stocks crack, gas systems rust easy)

>>34608491
Long gun is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>34608505
I'd take both desu

>>34608566
Bet you see everything in an effeminate manner you homo molester.
Sage for shitposting.

>>34608676
just buy commercial steel case
it's still cheap as fuck

>>34609278
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>>34609278
Ng

>>34609246
It's ok to be envious anon, I would be too if my country went into WW2 with the rifle it was using during WW1

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>>34609187
>that wood stock pps-43

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>>34609171
>unreliable as hell
>implying

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>>34609171
hi karl

>>34608883
>t. someone who's never used an M1 Garand before

>>34608591
I can't understand how the Type 1 grip works.

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>>34609521
I really wish I could save Ian from Karl and his dogshit opinions, Gun Jesus is just too much of an impressionable cinnamon bun.
>>34611453
Basic hand motor functions are hard anon.

>>34611668
>I really wish I could save Ian from Karl and his dogshit opinions
I'm honestly fine with karl having shit opinions, but the fact that he treats said opinions as facts irks me to no end

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>>34611758
But they're -so- fucking bad, and it's painful when you see Ian start parroting them as gospel.

>>34609173

I heared the Finns and SS liked them since they had even worse or no automatic rifles at all.

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Y'all have clearly never held one. It's amazingly light and well balanced. The muzzle break is highly effective as well.

These are great features for a crippled noodle armed kommando like myself.

>>34609114
War in Europe ended in '44. Also, the SKS production was halted when the Russo remixed AK was better

The italian Armaguerra Mod.39 was pretty good
It was supposed to replace the Carcano but we didn't because of the war
Anyway the best semiauto of the war was the M1 Garand

>>34609269

While you are mainly correct, I think you exaggerate the problems. SVT-40 does not beat itself to death that easily unless the gas-setting is set too high and/or improperly selected ammo is used (one should stick with surplus that has light bullets). Accuracy is perfectly acceptable for normal combat ranges, but not on same level as with best bolt-action military rifles of the era. I have SVT-40 which I have shot few thousand rounds this far - without facing any problems that did not exist from the start (1st round flier issue plus some mostly mag-related reliability issues). The particular individual rifle has near perfect bore and it's accurate enough to reliably hit A-area of SRA-target from 150 meters.

>>34608524
Shhh....don't pop the Canadian's bubble. The, muh cheap SVTs is really the only thing they can brag about.

>>34611586
It didn't

>>34608804
Germans picked up and used Soviet weapons because their own supply lines were stretched thin.

>>34608570
would agree, but it isnt really ww2 though

>>34611586
>but hanz how will ze fallschirmjägers protect zemselves while dropping to ze ground?
>dont worry göring i have just ze solution.

>>34615471

That is probably true to a point, but another fact that most soldiers also were smart enough to value firepower. German infantry never had too much automatic or semiautomatic firearms, hence it not a surprise that soldat were happy to replace their bolt-action mauser with semiautomatic rifle if such a possibility was available.