Why is the mini-14 2x the price of an Ar-15?

it's two times as gud

fudd tax
school shooter tax
4 MOA tax

>>34600941
AR's can be significantly cheaper to produce. Aluminum billet + CNC macine and you are well on your way to being an AR manufacturer.

>>34600941
Part of it's due to availability in places where it's difficult or illegal to get a non-neutered AR15. I believe the rest is because people evidently continue to pay it.

>>34600941
because bill ruger is a traitor and should be hung from the nearest yard-arm

it seems like a battle rifle

>>34600975
Buying forgings and machining those is way cheaper, hence why it's done that way and only Gucci niggas machine from billets.

>>34600987
Good luck hanging a skelington

>>34600987
You fucking retard

Its a loli pun queen thread again

>>34600941
I dunno but as a resident of cuckachusetts this fact assblasts me on a daily basis

>>34600941
Everyone is cranking out ARs these days, have been for years...only Ruger makes the Mini. Independent of that though I'd have to imagine the Mini is just a more expensive gun to manufacture, with it basically being a Garand and all.

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>>34600941
Because God is dead.
>300$+ Nuggets
>Misurp is gone
>every faggot with a AR15 thinking they're operating

15 FUCKING CAPTCHAS.

Economies of scale.

>>34600941
1. Only Ruger makes them. No competition like on the AR market.
2. More complicated to manufacture. They're a more archaic design and require more steps in their finish machining process.
3. Less of them being made. Economies of scale, your processes and labor are all cheaper when you're making a whole shit pot of something instead of just a few.

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>>34600941
Used to be the cheaper alternative. But ARs have gotten cheaper while minis are still the same price.

>>34600994
everybody knows there's no such thing as ghosts and sekletons

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>>34600987
>were gonna dig up his corpse!
>to hang him again!

>>34600941
>Why is the mini-14 2x the price of an Ar-15?

I wish they would drop to $3-400 because I would buy more. They're fun to shoot but not worth getting more than one at MSRP.

>>34600941

because most of them are sold in california, illinois, new york, connecicut and massachuettes

An AR-15 that isn't total dogshit still costs more than a Mini14

>>34600970

>4 MOA

Ok Sweetie. Maybe the early versions. Tooling was redone years ago.

The amount of bad info on /k/ is almost as bad as fuddlore.

>>34600941
Same reason that a pre-built desktop computer is two-times the prices of building it yourself.

t. /g/

>>34601529
Speaking of, how long until the mini's patent expires?
A forged version with tweaks like m14 sights and a strut might be cool

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>>34603420

Since I'm in a non guncuck state, I'd rather buy Ruger's AR-556 for 5.56. The other versions of interest would be either the mini-30 or the mini-Memeout 300 version, not interesting enough to be a must have weapons.

>>34606087
The Mini Thirty would be neat if it ate steelcase reliably.

>>34606087
Man, i had the biggest boner for a suppressed Mini-meme until i realized it would take over two grand to get everything i wanted on it
>>34606143
Getting light primer strikes, or does it just choke?

>>34605979
>Same reason that a pre-built desktop computer is two-times the prices of building it yourself.

I see you're posting from 1998. Hey, while you're there, let 25 year old me know that I should listen to my college roommate's advice that I should buy $200 of Apple stock instead of a laserdisc player.

>>34606268
>let 25 year old me know that I should listen to my college roommate's advice that I should buy $200 of Apple stock instead of a laserdisc player.

I can actually see why you did that at the time though. Must hurt now though.

>>34606307
"But laserdisc is the only way to watch anime in real high definition"

Well, it *was*!!

>>34600990
Forgings are stronger than billet, tho.

>>34601529
>require more steps in their finish machining process.
This is actually not true. The lost-wax castings that ruger uses for the mini is nearer net shape than ar-15 receiver forgings and bolts/carriers.

I think it's lack of competition.

>>34600941
Economy of sc>>34601454 damnit

>>34606412
*are*

>>34605979
That hasn't been true since like 2010 though.

>>34606087
Ar 556 does not have a chrome lined barrel. The mini-14 does

>>34600941
Because the action is needlessly complex for manufacturing.

>>34601389
>15 FUCKING CAPTCHAS.
just go to settings and put classic captchas.

>>34606241
All light primer strikes, the Mini-14/30's action does not differ in function because of steel or brass casings in the way some ARs (Especially that don't have a barrel coating/lining) do. All they need to do is slightly lengthen the firing pin and maybe a stronger hammer spring and voila! They would easily steal a large portion of the AK market.

>>34607029
Garand style action is super-duper simple. Simpler than an AK actually. There is no bolt-carrier, the bolt rides in tracts built into the receiver. There are no locking lugs on the bolt, it has no barrel extension either. The piston and charging handle is one solid piece in the form of an op-rod. Nothing complex about it, just a barreled receiver, bolt, op-rod, and recoil spring.

>>34606340
Yes.

>>34606458
this
>>34605979
Dont be a retard anon.

>>34601546
I feel like everyone thats been bitching about mini prices are brand new to guns and didn't get to experience ARs when there was nothing worth a damn for under $1000. Disgustingly cheap ARs have ruined people's perception

>>34608596
Exactly this.

>>34603420
Hey man would be something to do and might be good for a laugh.

>>34607230
>no locking lugs on bolt

wat

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>>34608684
It is breech lock, it does not have locking lugs like an AR or AK on the bolt face.

>>34607230
The M1 Garand rifle receiver is the most difficult firearms receiver to manufacture. The M14 rifle receiver is the second most difficult receiver to make. Reference: Walt Kuleck, Fulton Armory.


July 29, 2006 - It's surprising how complex the design is. If you asked a machinist how much it would cost to make a receiver prototype based on the [military] drawing, he'd probably charge you in excess of $10,000. Most of that would be the labor for figuring out the drawing and all the set-ups to do each machine cut. A receiver like this can only be made economically in full production. That's why Enterprise Arms charges over a grand for their best receivers.

>>34608791
The design of the Kalashnikov's locking lugs were specifically taken from the garand.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/05/rifle-paternity-test-pinning-down-the-m1-garands-influence-on-the-ak/

>>34608820
Ruger doesn't forge them, they investment cast them. We're not talking about the M1 or M14.

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>>34608596
>Disgustingly cheap ARs have ruined people's perception
Wrong, it has given them the FREEDUMS to have SALT RAIFUS in their homes, which you should embrace and not whine about you terribad communazi.
Most people complaining about expensive guns nowadays weren't into guns at all back then; simply because everything that was cool was expensive and everything that wasn't expensive was something like a Mosin which you could only really like if you were part of an autistic circlejerk about that specific gun using Cosmoline as lube like /k/ was all the time back then.

We've gotten more real now! As it turns out, guns really ARE just hunks of ill-formed pot metal or aluminium, the cheapest avaliable plastics and a handful of hardened steel parts that are only so because if they weren't, they'd blow up in the operators' face. This is quite literally the militaries' of this worlds' design criterion, as they want the absolute cheapest hunk of ass that they can get, and yes, even the fifth decimal behind the comma counts, since when you order it x50000 like they do, that shit adds up.

As a logical result, guns have sunken to the level where they cost what they are actually worth. This may be disillusioning for some. But I like it. More cheap guns for me.

>>34608945
I agree. The Mini has stayed almost consistent in price accounting for inflation. None of these guys remember having to pay 1200 bucks for a basic bitch Colt 6920 with zero good aftermarket support. There was time when it was the only option if you wanted an AR because it wasn't AN AR it was THE AR.

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>>34608880
>We're not talking about the M1 or M14
>>34607230
>Garand style action is super-duper simple

WDHMBT?
If that was you earlier you should have said "the M1 carbine action is simple" since the ruger mini 14 has more in common with that rifle than its full-power battle rifle brethren.

>>34608945
>Most people complaining about expensive guns nowadays weren't into guns at all back then
Which is exactly why I said that.

>something like a Mosin which you could only really like if you were part of an autistic circlejerk
Are you fucking high? M1 carbines, minis, FALs, shitloads of HKs,Daewoos,AR70s AR-180s, and every sub-gun outside of Russia was on the market before ARs hit their stride. Actual machine guns. AKs were what ARs today, do you even remember the price of 1080rd 5.45 cans? The end of the AWB and election scares are what made this market because a lot of shit started coming in and everyone jumped on the domestic rifle market

>>34606319
But you gotta get that sweet sweet cover art

>>34601389
I switched to classic and I don't want to murder someone every post now, just every third. Pictionary only works right on phones.

The original Mini14 is my uncle's favorite firearm out the hundred or so he owns, there must be something to them.

>>34609022
>ruger mini 14 has more in common with that rifle
No