Anybody own a Browning Hi Power? How do you like it? Thinking

>>34599113
theyre both obsolete for anything but shooting paper. but you could do worse

>>34599141

Sounds fine to me, I guess.

>>34599231
they are fine, just dont buy new, find ones with a story to tell

>>34599141

The Hi Power isn't obselete. FN turns out some high quality stuff. It might be a bit overpriced, but it's still a functional and very reliable handgun. It might be a bit large for some to comfortable CC, bUT it's slim and hugs the body well. If you aren't a manlet you shouldn't have a problem with it.

>>34599340
It's obsolete compared to a G19 MOS.

>>34599340
look friend, i own quiet a few pistols, but carrying anything but a striker fired is larping

I have one, it is so pretty. Need to get around to disabling the magazine disconnect though, I've heard that it noticeably improves the trigger pull.

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>>34599371
There are "quiet" a few DA/SA pistols which are far from obsolete.

>>34599403
Definetly obsolete compared to a Glock.

>>34599403
simply not true, no one from 3 gunners to cops to l33t teir one operators to ytguncelebs to fudds use them anymore except for a few holdouts whos number shrink every year

>>34599429
By that logic, Hillary should have won since she had the most people shilling for her in public.

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My Dad gave me one, it is my favorite pistol. I love it.

>>34599499
false comparison, weak too

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>>34599422
>>34599429
Why do I even bother responding...

>>34599545
because you know we are right, but because all you need to "win" on this swedish autistic friend simulator is be the last to respond, you continue to reply, since this is the only place you are able to get the sensation

>>34599515
I don't see a refutation. If you don't like anything but Glock, that's cool, but your preference is a far cry from any evidence of obsolescence.

>>34599589
i already said i own and like many guns, but carrying anything but a striker fired is larping. Which is true

>ps i dont like glocks

>>34599601
How so? Please, educate me.

>>34599622
its always faster and every other type either has an extra step(s) or difference in trigger pull which will always produce a greater number of fuck ups

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>>34599113
I have one.

There are great things about it,very accurate ,the ergonomics are great,the gun is incredibly slim and the sights are great in my opinion.The bad, the satey is mushy and not positive, the mags are a very snug in the mag well so reloads kinda suck wityhout a mag well, you have to take take out the mag disconnect it does two things,lets mags drop free and really improves the trigger.

In the end know what you are getting they are old world guns but man they are a fine piece.

>>34599690
>Always faster
Unless you actually train to proficiency with your firearms.
>Extra step/difference in trigger pull
Yeah, those are there for a reason, to render a weapon safe(r) during the act of reholstering. We call it "Glock Leg" for a reason.

>>34599724
>Unless you actually train to proficiency with your firearms.
doesnt matter, a striker fired will always be faster with equal training

>Yeah, those are there for a reason, to render a weapon safe(r) during the act of reholstering. We call it "Glock Leg" for a reason.
>>Unless you actually train to proficiency with your firearms.

>>34599745
>doesnt matter, a striker fired will always be faster with equal training
sounds like an awful lot of opinion

>>34599764
its a fact, with an equal amount of training, a person will always be able to draw and fire a striker fired faster and more consistently than anything else because there is no safety to flick off, the trigger pull is the same, etc

>>34599745
>always be faster
Unless you have some kind of proof, I remain unconvinced.


>Yeah, those are there for a reason, to render a weapon safe(r) during the act of reholstering. We call it "Glock Leg" for a reason.
>>Unless you actually train to proficiency with your firearms
I'm sorry, do you specifically "want" a firearm more likely to ND into your leg?

>>34599113
>Anybody own a Browning Hi Power? How do you like it?
Me. Don't spend huge money on one. It's a well made gun, but it's incredibly dated. I'd buy one of those clones before I bothered with the real deal.

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>>34599113
>He only has a 9mm

>>34599800
>Unless you have some kind of proof, I remain unconvinced.
go watch one of the 9001 videos on yt, join any military, take any 3 gun/handgun shooting course,etc

>I'm sorry, do you specifically "want" a firearm more likely to ND into your leg?
>>Unless you actually train to proficiency with your firearms

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My hi-power. Late 1936-early 1937 Belgian army contract. Grandfather took it from a surrendering German in France

>>34599821
FEG or the Argentina ones are nice

>>34599113
Factory trigger is heavy for a single action. Otherwise they're pretty neat.

>>34599601
>>34599690
Literally retard tier.

What is DAO? how about DA/SA revolver? What is flicking your safety off DURING your draw stroke as opposed to after?

>>34599839
I'm in the military, and the Army only just switched to the P320. We've been riding hammerfired autos for over a century. Hell, my branch still is, and we're not switching over any time soon.

Also, are you really egotistical enough to say you'll never experience an ND? Travis Haley is a fantastic instructor, and he NDed on camera.

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>>34599113
I have a feg hi power and it runs nice but it has a heavy trigger

Here's hi powers for 270
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/665304428

>>34599926
>What is DAO?
heavier trigger pull makes a striker fired faster

> how about DA/SA revolver?
revolvers are obsolete

>What is flicking your safety off DURING your draw stroke as opposed to after?
more chance to fuck up than striker fired

>>34599941
> the Army just switched to the P320
youre only proving my point

>>34599961
Your point is just your opinion. I get you like striker guns, but hammers are far from obsolete.

>>34600000
I wouldn't advertise that, bub.

>>34599113
What do you all think of a P226 in .357?

I was looking at the 9mm at first but my lgs has one in .357 for 600 bucks

>>34600007
id ont like striker fired guns, as ive already stated twice, but carrying anything else is larping

hammers are obsolete, this is a fact, you will never see an army/police/etc switch from a stirker fired to a hammer

>>34599946
>heavier trigger pull means slower
Nah senpai, just means you'd get tired sooner

>revolvers are obsolete
Didn't realize that revolver calibers just stopped being able to kill people thanks for the update

>More chance to fuck up than a striker
So you agree it isnt slower then?

>practicing draw stroke thousands of times in all kinds of weather while your sweaty and tired with live ammunition using a gun that points at your upper thigh with no safety of any kind and a relatively light trigger
More room to fuck up than a gun with a long/heavy DA pull or better yet a thumb safety.

Or are you one of those people who thinks they're an infallible automaton who's primary concerns should be shaving of .00000001s on their split times

>>34600040
>Nah senpai, just means you'd get tired sooner
still proves my point

>Didn't realize that revolver calibers just stopped being able to kill people thanks for the update
your welcome

>So you agree it isnt slower then?
my point is their obsolete, do you even know what youre arguing about?

>More room to fuck up than a gun with a long/heavy DA pull or better yet a thumb safety.
this makes no sense

>Or are you one of those people who thinks they're an infallible automaton who's primary concerns should be shaving of .00000001s on their split times
youre making no sense, did you even matriculate?

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Hi Powers are fine target pistols OP and I guess they can work as a CC if you really want.
I got a surplus one and after replacing the springs and lightening/polishing the trigger and mag disconnect, the thing is a tack driver.
I guess I'll go ahead and shill for bhspringsolutions too since they make some decent spring options and a tool for removing the hammer/main spring if you don't want to be stuck with wolf springs in a surplus gun.

>>34600034
You still haven't actually explained how carrying a hammer gun is larping, and I'm starting to suspect you don't know what that term means.

Also, of course no army or police force would switch from a cheaper piece of molded plastic to an expensive piece of CNCed steel when they both do the same thing is roughly the same manner. Do you not understand things like budgets?

>>34600034
you're an idiot. they'd switch to blunderbuss if the price was right.

>>34600077
>can't even understand basic logic I've laid out
>striker fired is simplest, everybody want simplest because i liek simplest, therefor striker fired is best logic
>throws out a term he learned from a wor a day calendar

Literally retarded

>>34600095
the term larping means live action role playing

> Do you not understand things like budgets?
youre proving my point

>>34600101
not true

>>34600106
which term?

>>34599855
>that rear sight
how far out did they think they could hit shit? 100m?

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>ignore AR
Here she is. It was pretty rough on the outside when I first got it being a Eurpoor cop trade in, but some new sights, grips, and finish really turned out nice. Had the mag disconnect removed as well.

Ignore the idiot going on about striker fired supremacy or whatever. Hi-Powers are amazing svelte guns with frankly ridiculous reliability and they're pretty damn accurate if you can overcome the heavy trigger. I love mine.

>>34600000
wasted

>>34600129
>the term larping means live action role playing
And you still haven't explained how that applies to carrying a hammer fired pistol.

>youre proving my point
You're proving to be a strong case for eugenics. Institutions are moving to striker guns because they're cheaper to acquire, especially in bulk. They're not an improvement in performance, they're a compromise between more expensive but safer hammer guns and just going without.

>>34600174
someone who carries one is role playing since they are obsolete

Man id buy the fuck out of a BHP with a 1911 trigger and safety...

>>34600214
But senpai, isnt everybody who carries a firearm for SD LARPing unless they end up using it?

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>>34599545
You knew it was bait. You should've ignored it.

>>34600231
yes

>>34600214
So just because you said so. Again, your opinion (and that is the only explanation you've offered) is not evidence.

>>34600244
thats like your opinion man

I own the Nighthawk BHP you have in the pic and I absolutely love it. The Hi Power is a classy pistol that's still used by militaries all over the world.
Just buy a quality leather shoulder holster to go with your fedora and always remember to mention you own one around Sig and HK owners.

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>>34599838
>he sacrificed capacity for memes

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>>34599429
>Be new gun owner
>Own a SIG P239
>height and build grants me a comfy EDC
>People give me shit for it all the time
>mfw

Not all of us want to carry Glocks, you know.

>>34600309
>he sacrificed per round performance for having 10 rnds left in his mag after he has to cap some jigaboo for popping a few rounds at him with his jennings

I mean why would you want to put a dangerous aggressor down ASAP when you could LARP around with your 17rnd mags in case TEOTWAWKI comes out of nowhere one day

ITT: People who don't really know what the word "obsolete" means.

>>34600391
i dont like glocks

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>>34600415
>he believes in the "per round performance" meme

>>34600033

.357 is a hot round. It'll kill someone dead for sure, better than a lot of other rounds. My only gripe is the availability of ammo, but it's a great gun and round.

>>34599113

Great gun, well-built. Like others said, it's "old school", but it'll go boom every time you pull the trigger and it's just sexy.

>>34600592
>he doesn't believe projectiles of different diameter, mass, and speed interact with their environment in a complicated and differing fashion

some rounds are just slightly to moderately better at some things. A .357 mag is going to be much less likely to deflect off course than a 9mm round of similar weight for example. It would also offer better post barrier performance unless the 9mm round in question had a significant edge in bullet tech. They also do tend to enjoy a very good reputation for ending threats in a quick fashion.

Of course you do give up other things in exchange for this but to suggest different rounds don't tend to perform differently is silly.

>>34600136
Certain well known shooter popped a balloon with 9mm at 1000 meters

>>34601035

Bad fucking ass. 2nd shot did the job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3XwizTqDw

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>>34600000
Last time I saw this shitty meme was on 8/b/ in '15 what the fuck why would you do this

>>34601961
>On /b/ in '15
Get out

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>>34599113
I have an Inglis as my first and only pistol that I paid way too much for IMO. The Inglis ones are practically all from the 40's or earlier. I want to get another one with FN markings (and an external extractor) so I can shoot it more and not worry about more irreplaceable parts breaking.

I've shot at least 2500 rounds through mine, about 1000 of those with the current extractor, a replacement from JackFirst since the one it came with was shit and would cause a failure to extract at least once a mag, sometimes more if winchester white box is involved. I've never found the trigger to be a problem, but then again I've never really shot any other pistol nearly as much as mine. I also swapped out the stock spring for a stronger 18.5 lb one. Normally people do that to be able to shoot +P (which you shouldn't do on older hi powers) but I did it as sort of "insurance" since mine is very old even though I only shoot regular 115 grain 9mm. For that matter the "hottest" thing I've ever put through mine was fiocchi 124 grain. The stronger spring gives me peace of mind, works with other stock parts, only makes it a little harder to pull back the slide and it's cheap enough so I would do it to another hi power if I ever buy one.

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>>34602384
As for accuracy, here's my best group of 5 ever at 20 feet, made today. I've been shooting mine once a week for about 4 months now to try to git gud.

For some reason I'm just a shit shot with pistols. I'm sure the gun is capable of better, I just have trouble with trigger pull.

>>34599795
>I don't understand how dao works

I know. Feeding the troll.

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>>34599866
I have a feg. Make sure you get an early one if you do it. They started making weird mutant versions with s&w guts later on.

>>34600136

Longest pistol shot I have seen in person was:
>Range: 200 meters on a rifle range.
>Shooter: My sergent when I was very new
>Target: Man-sized pop-up target.

We were all suitably impressed.

Months later, he told us the trick was he knew exactly where on the range to stand and what to aim at in the background for the bullet to land just right. If they ever did any maintenance on the range or moved any of the targets around, he'd have to spend a couple of hours figuring out a new place to stand that could guarantee a perfect shot.

>>34601035
>>34601135
>Heyyyyoooooooooo

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>>34599360
>>34599371

Troll? Gun is reliable, about the same height as a glock 19 with same flush fit mag capacity but a longer barrel and feels great. It's a great gun if you don't mind the weight of muh metal frame.

>>34599141

Nothing wrong with bhp except costs, I've never been much into revolvers so I can't say there

>>34600033

I wouldn't if you want to shoot it more than once in a while. Like the other anon said, it's expensive to shoot but a great round. You'll get to shoot more with a 9 because it's cheaper, easier to find, and it wont make you feel like a range trip is a costly investment.

I think you can buy a fully built 9mm slide conversion with night sights for 400$ though so that's an option, two guns in one. Just make sure your model is compatible, there's a type that isn't.

>>34601961
hhehehheheh you cant stop me
soon 4cuck will know kennedi by my gets

>>34599943
Remove the disconnect right now

>>34603611
This. Makes a huge difference and takes about 17 seconds.

>>34599690
Hey retard the hi power only has ONE trigger pull lol. Sao triggers is what all glock triggers want to emulate with your stupid upgrades since stock glocks suck ass.

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I have a commercial Hi Power. Love it.

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>>34599113
I like them personally. If you have larger hands, it may slide bite you if you have a high hold though. Fuck the 10 round mags, get 15 rounders to be competitive with other firearms.

It basically feels like a 9mm 1911, because it was designed by the same person.

And for fucks sake, remove the god damned magazine disconnect. It doesn't take long, it's not hard and if you can't do it yourself, get a half competent gunsmith to do it for you. It makes the mags drop free, and makes the overall experience much better.

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Ive had two of them, pic related is my current one a new production hi power and its ran flawless after a spring replacement and cleaning, i bought it off gb for 600 a year ago, my last one was an isreali surplus on i bought for 350 off gb and to be honest i preferred that one, i only sold it because im retarded and the second i did i always wanted it back.

Removing the mag disconnect takes 10 minutes max, and really does wonders for the trigger.

>>34599855
fucking drool worthy, great patina, too

Got a mkii from aimsurplus a couple years ago and love it. Aftermarket 15 rd mags. I like it better than most plastic modern guns for sure. Then again, steel frames just feel better to me.

one time I stored my cz-75 in rice, and it made my gun SAO until I got all the rice out.

>>34604859
Why did you store it in rice ?

>>34605067
>>34604859
This. I need an answer.

I picked up an old police trade from Aim a while back, put about a thousand rounds through it, and have never had a malfunction. Its a sweet shooter.

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>>34600136
Makes more sense when you pair it with a stock

>>34599113
I paid $1000 for a new one. Worth every penny IMO. Biggest criticism is that the trigger pin requires a press to push out.

Also, don't fall for the surplus meme. The guns coming in currently are in terrible condition.

>>34606427
Thats bullshit, as someone who owned a commercial and a surplus one theres nothing wrong with surplus hi powers, and I prefer my surplus one anyday. Your just being a smug dick.

>>34606310
Rice is a (mild) dessicant.

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Should I get:
>FN Marked Browning Hi Power
>Manhurin PPK
>CZ-75
All of these are in the same price range ($600 - 700 after fees, tax, gas used, etc.)

>>34608779
A FN marked hi power hands down. CZs arent worth that brand new and ppk has an anemic round and is uncomfortable to do anything besides showing your friends and saying "Look im james bond! PEW PEW!"

>>34599795
You mean the safety that's disengaged during the draw. The safety that doesn't have to be used AT ALL

>>34608127
I bought a surplus one and immediately regretted it. I don't see how any sane person would want a surplus one.

>>34609460
Because people can actually look at the pictures of what they are buying before they get it.

I remember you from other threads, you couldnt be bothered to look at the pictures or look up what the ratings mean and you act like your stupidity means surplus cant be good.

>>34609472
>I remember u
>/k/ is one person

>>34609519
Did i not describe your situation. You didnt look at the pictures, you saw the "fair" rating from CDIsales and didnt look up that a "fair" NRA rating is the lowest a gun can get., then you got pissed off when the gun was literally on the edge of not working and blamed it on being surplus, not your own stupidity.

>>34608779
Where do people get rami slides with front serrations

>>34599855
Damn dude, that is an enviable possession right there. Especially with that family connection + story. Very nice looking piece. Downright handsome.

I shot one several years ago, it shot fine but the grip felt very blocky in my hands. I'd like to try one with the MKIII grips, I'm open to giving the BHP another whirl

>>34599745
I carry a striker fired gun, have carried HPs and 1911s in the past, and can confirm you're a retard.

Disengage the safety during presentation, there's literally no difference at all in speed.

Also
>bandwagon fallacy.

I have a milsurp FN Hi Power Mk2 as my winter carry gun. Supposedly it is Israeli, but the markings are sparse. There are some Belgian markings, and others I can't make out.

15 round Mec Gar magazines.

it doesn't want to eat 124 grain sig sauer hollow points. So it only gets standard ball ammo.

>>34610507
Try getting new springs, after about 2-3 years mine starts getting finicky about ammo too, then i change out the recoil spring and it eats everything.

>>34608779
Manhurin PP.

>>34609460
Maybe so you can not spend 1000 dollars on this underwhelming pistol? I got mine for a grand total of 0 dollars and I'm still critical of it.

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Bought a surplus FN for 450 as my first gun. Shoots like a dream and is just downright fun to shoot. Perfectly viable as a self defense weapon even today. It's a great alternative for those who love the 1911 but want more rounds.

I employ my Glock 19 for all my self defense needs though. I'd feel much less bad about that sitting in an evidence locker.

However i pulled out my HP recently and I noticed the slide hits a hard wall at a certain point. It's super sticky. I don't remember it being like this. I'm kind of worried I bent the slide release when I cleaned it. I haven't really had the urge to drop 150 dollars on a new browning slide release (for fucks sake browning.....really?) and I'm kind of afraid to shoot it now, so it's just kind of sitting in a gun sock right now.

>>34599511
>the bush war starter pack

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Bought that beauty, I can't wait.

>>34613806
kek

>>34603442
>Dat wear on the HP
Hnggggggg

>>34599141
Exactly what Wonder Nine is ever obsolete?

>>34599113
>what a shitfest of a thread
But hey, looks like there's some Hi Power love balancing it out.

As you can see, OP, the biggest downside of owning a BHP is listening to the autists bitch at you about your pistol.

I'm a total GP35 fanboy, it's far and away my favorite pistol. The 1911 is the only other that comes close. I'm not claiming to be totally objective, but I've never really felt the need to swap it out. Carry it all the time.

I also really like j-frames too. They're my "100%" guns. I've got a gun absolutely 100% of the time, the snub makes up for the times when the big gun can't come with me. If I can't conceal the GP35 or 1911 on my belt, you can bet I've got a snub in my pocket.

>>34599855
That is absolutely awesome. Look, the Universe has honored this Hi Power and its story with dubs.

>>34600092
>bhspringsolutions
Yes! I will join in the shilling. I've been very pleased with them. Good customer service too, just email them with any questions. Cheap surplus pistol + spring kit = happy pistol-fu.

Just buy a CZ 75B OP.

>>34616670
Did you install the spring kit yourself? Not sure I want to spend $100 on the complete tool kit. Figure it'd be cheaper to have the smith do it.

>>34616800
I did install them myself, with absolutely no finesse, grace, or style.

You do need a few tools which the B&H folks also sell. Punches at a minimum, also I'd definitely recommend their widget to undo the hammer spring. And their "third hand" widget, they didn't have that when I swapped the springs on mine, it would have made reassembly a lot easier.

Unless the process of doing it going to be fun/interesting for you, sure, it might very well be worth having a 'smith do it for you. You certainly could do it yourself, though. Your call. I like puttering around on my guns, I just wish I was better at it.