Stupid question

>>34592710
no.

Technically, some of the laser would reflect but those lasers are magnitudes more powerful. The mirror would burn and lose the ability to reflect anything in less than a second.

>>34592710
That would be like dodging the raindrops to stay dry.
There is too much energy to reflect and no mirror is perfect. So some will instantly leak through and destroy the mirror, so it makes no difference.

Armor is better vs lasers. Carbon, water, etc.

>>34592734
What if they made more powerful mirrors?

>>34592710
Yes, if you had one that could quickly send it back to target or buy just enough time. Lasers just aren't good candidates for weaponization.

>>34592753
You're trolling, right?

>>34592744
What if you combine mirror armor with smoke screens and water to keep them cool?

Very situational

Useless against Chinese

Chinese Drones emit smoke that obscures lasers

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Hi polished chrome armor

>Glitterboy here we come!

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>>34592825
The Russians have been preparing for this for decades

>>34592837
Make mine the SAMAS.

>>34592746
I think we're facing a mirror gap.

what about on a very very foggy day? how'd that laser perform?

>>34592734
this. The tiniest spec of dust or water will heat up, heat the mirror, then it snowballs.

also the material has to reflect that particular wavelength. For example aluminum is highly reflective to visible light and IR but not so reflective to UV. If free electron lasers become popular they can adjust wavelength instantly.

>>34592825
What about this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtora

>Laser illumination sensors - check
>Smoke grenades - check
>2-4 seconds reaction time

but its 1988, can be better

>>34592897
Happily boiling its way through the fog.
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.6023

If I slope the mirror armour will the electrons that form the beam be more easily deflected?

>>34592825
dump more power into laser. Problem solved.

Face it, we need digital mirrors.

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>>34593163
Never. Your digital shit is nothing compared to good old analog mirror quality.

>>34592734
If you use the same mirro on the missile/plane/ship like in the laser itself the laser will do 0 damage to the object.

After stealth, electronic warfare, precision guided weapons and railguns this will be the next useless military meme.

>>34592710
But what if they used a mirror to counter your mirror?

>>34592825
Only works if you are retreating.

>>34592710
Inside the laser there are mirrors and lenses that resist to the heat of the ray, there's no reason to say it's impossible for the target to use the same materials.

>>34593713
>Inside the laser there are mirrors and lenses
What

Yes you could, but you cannot realistically cover your equipment all around in mirrors, and with high enough energy output even 1% absorbance leads to your mirror degrading and subsequently the target being destroyed, also, will you have grunts polishing your mirrors 24/7?

>>34593713
Jesus.

>>34592845
posting a picture of a cloud?

>>34593181
Mehinks they use prisms not mirrors.

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>>34593561
Yo dawg, I heard you liked mirrors

>>34593713
What is focal lenght and focus?

>>34592845
Underrated

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>>34592746
GENTLEMEN WE CANNOT ALLOW A LASER-MIRROR GAP!

>>34592710
in theory a puny laser weapon like that can indeed be defeated by the right surface. they can't focus it accurately enough. you could use silver as coating for example, at extreme angles and some depth. it is also excellent at transferring heat away to a larger surface.

>>34592710

>USS Ponce

>>34592710
>[hypothetical]laser puts out 50MW and focuses on target area of 0.1msq
>mirror reflects 98% of light in the wavelength used by the laser
>2% goes to heating target
>target area of .1 square meters is still heated by 1MW of light
>target area melts/vaporizes
This is why they teach physics in middle school.

>>34595132
well 50mw is not bad only 500 times more powerful than current systems. you lose half of it at the distance also. and then the target rolls fast and you can't even hit the same spot. and then your laser is useless.

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Let's suppose you're an angry Russian general and you want to counter these lasers

what will you do ?

>>34595179
start the coal engines?

>>34595155
I was illustrating the point with made up numbers. Take the algorithm and apply it to the laser, target and circumstances of choice. Whether mirror armor works or not depends entirely on whether the light that does NOT get reflected is enough to fuck it up

>>34592919
What if they had retroreflectors? Then the exact same argument can be applied to the laser aperture.

>>34595155
>>34595199
The point is that OP is a fucking retard and should stop thinking like a retard.

>>34595199
No shit?
You can't just use words, numbers are truth. How long is a piece of string? What if a man punched a tank really hard, I mean really hard?

>>34595221
BUT THAT'S MY FUCKING POINT, TWAT

I made a case with some numbers to show OP how he would go about answering his own retarded question. You tried to be the smartass so hard that you managed to miss the point entirely

Yeah, but what about like a multiple layered cone mirror built with honeycomb design

>>34595179
Stay away and let the atmosphere be my shielding.

>>34595249
Cool story bro.

Forget how to protect planes and drones, how does infantry protect itself against these things setup on trucks shining into your eyes hundreds of kilometers away. Am i correct that if you even got a glimpse of it at full power even reflected off a window or something it'd be instant permanent blindness??

>>34595412
I think there's an International agreement about laser against infantry, isn't it ?

>>34595412
Sick shades, obviously

>>34595412
>(largely) line-of-sight weapon mounted on a truck
>shooting people on the ground hundreds of miles (kilometers) away
Flat earther spotted.

>>34595068
You can't a russian in here, he'll see the big Mirror!!

>>34592783
Literally using smoke and mirrors as a defensive measure

>>34595441
For maiming (ie deliberately trying to blind)yes.

If the laser is powerful enough to make the water in your tissues explode, i think that's fine.

>>34595412
> it'd be instant permanent blindness??

generally having your face, rapidly followed by the brain behind it, explode into superheated gas tends to spoil eyesight. Sense of smell, breathing, and generally existence.

>>34593713
Saying lasers only use mirrors to focus energy is kind of like saying cars use wheels to move; not wrong, but not even close to right

>>34592783
Smoke, mirrors and water

On a missile moving several times the speed of sound

Not even getting into how heavy that shit would be, it wouldn't matter because the ablative layers would dissipate away from the missile so fast that they would become dense enough to stop the laser
All you'd be doing is limiting your range and warhead capacity

>>34596165
*wouldn't become dense enough to stop the laser

it's a mini deathstar

>>34595441
doesn't matter much, it wouldn't be hard to make protective glasses or visors today against dazzlers. it's banned because it's an asshole thing to do and not really effective.

>>34595199
>lets take a 500 YW laser
>and focus it on 0.1 mmsq
>and the mirror is 1% effective
>will it blend?

If you dont have sources for your stats, your math means nothing.

>>34592825
>Smoke that obscures lasers.

t. Xing Ping Xingping

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>>34595412
Just wait until they get phased array lasers that can be quickly steered to blind everyone within sight

Wouldn't a mirrored surface light up like a Christmas tree on radar?

>>34595179

American monument to the mutilated jew cock?

>>34596514
Not really. Beating radar is more about surface shape than reflectivness. RAM is for the times where you can't help but turn a flat face towards the emitter; it makes the flash less noticeable, but it simply can't remove it entirely.

The best "armor" against high powered lasers would be some sort of silica aerogel material, which is brittle and likely would not hold up well to ocean conditions.

The best defence against a laser is a counter-battery laser.

Re: Children of a Dead Earth

>>34598763
>muh aerogel

A bug that has been fixed, anon.

Carbon (or titanium-dioxide doped water) is where it's at on land.

>>34598773
did they fix nitrile rubber and aramid

didn't seem right that those were effective laser armor

>>34592845
just looking at that picture you can tell the married guys when they get to shore go home and beat their wife. the unmarried guys beat up prostitutes.

>>34592837
My nigga!

American R & D is slow. In a couple of years, China will overtake the laser thing with a Chinese analog that has no equivalent anywhere in the world. All made from a home grown indigenous research.

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>>34595460
Fuck yeah

>>34595356
Nope. Adaptive optics lets the atmosphere focus the beam.

>>34592825
>tfw lasers can't be used against China due to pollution smokescreen.

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>>34598867
>>34598773

*Very* thinly spaced layers of aerogel are still pretty effective for high velocity intercepts. Laser wobble has been introduced too, so a narrow missile can "slip in" to a few hundred kilometers.

But as for current real life applications, I think the best way to counter the Navy's lasers is to have a counter laser. Which like other anon have said runs the risk of everybody going blind.

>killer shades for errbody

>>34592710

Because mirrors aren't that capable of reflection. Unless you had a 100% reflective surface, the heat from the laser will just build up anyway.

Best way around it? Smoke. Any level of smoke will utterly fuck the laser and make it next to useless and the laser will cost more to fire than the smoke costs to deploy.

>>34596467
Where the fuck are you getting a yottawatt, let alone 500. The total output of the sun is like 400 yw

>>34596489
>phased laser array
What?

>>34601394
Like an AESA radar. But with laser emitters.

>>34592746
Fuck off with the mirror. You just want slanted plate armor, it will cause the laser to diffuse slightly and weaken it's point of impact. Lasers also don't have great range.

>>34592710
rain, dust, fog, smoke, sand, want me to keep going?

>>34593181
And how exactly does one keep the extremely expensive mirror coating 100% dust/water free in an environment like the side of a ship or on a drone? The moisture on the mirror would heat up considerably.

>>34592710
lets still say your mirror is 99% reflective
it would still be taking 1000W
>puts a mirror in the microwave

>>34595441
>shines weak laser to some combatant's eye, making them blind
Unecessary Suffering and Superfluous Injury, breach of CCW Protocol IV
>shines ultrapowerful laser to some combatant's head, exploding their head off
Lawful Mean and Method of Warfare.

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>>34599535
>you can tell the married guys when they get to shore go home and beat their wife

PRIVYET MY BEAUTIFUL UKRAINIA

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>>34593180
HONK HONK

Pic related LMAO.

>>34596328
>it wouldn't be hard to make protective glasses or visors today against dazzlers.
It is not that easy. You can't block all wave length otherwise visor would be just black. So dazzlers with different/variable wavelength can slip thorough. Also powerful enough lasers melt/evaporate coating which are fragile due to their thickness.

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>>34593561

>>34592744
Then you make stronk mirror.
Mirror win every time.

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Is shock and awe a legitimate viable strategy or is it a meme?

>>34592710
Why? It's only short range CIWS.

>>34593118

Depends on the material of the mirror. It's it's a 'silvered' mirror like in a bathroom, than no.

>>34592710
Would a laser be a good anti missile/ trophy system or is direct intercept still king?

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>>34592710
idk

>>34604021
For aircraft that are getting engaged from miles away sure; for tanks being shot at from a couple hundred metres away (or closer), not really.

>>34592845
That thing needs to sink already. I bet only bitter Russian nationalism and vodka keep it going.

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>>34603659
Why not just use the fucking laser on the door?

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>>34603839
>2 hours with no (you)s
Looks like everyone are too in awe to reply.

>>34604021

Considering how much easier it is to hit something with a laser than with a projectile, I imagine that they'll become the favored (though not only) form of missile defense for naval vessels in the next couple decades.

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>>34604528

>>34592845
It looks like the CV equivalent of a trailer park.

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>>34595179
Shoot it down

>>34592710
A better solution would be to generate a plasma envelope.

It would trash the target vehicle's communications, sensors, and make a thermal bloom of monstrous proportions, but it might be able to mitigate the laser's effect somewhat. A plasma envelope might also mess with radar tracking, as the returns get screwy.

>>34593163
Digital is no good. Stick with steam, steam works.

>>34604670
A plasma field sufficient to interfere with weapons-grade lasers would emit gigawatts of heat.

If your own armor does 10x the damage to you that enemies weapons would it's probably not a solution.

>>34593745
>will you have grunts polishing your mirrors 24/7?

Grunts? No. that's how mirrors get broken. We'll invent a new POG MOS- Refractory Warfare Defense Technician.

>>34604670

I read somewhere way back that instead of spoopy skunk works stealth shit, the Russians had some type of plasma envelope the used to evade radar detection on their black project crafts.

We see all sorts of US stuff but no Soviet/Russian equivalent.

>>34606238
Yes but it technically counts as your kill when you bring your own aircraft down.

I would be very surprised if mirrors would help, think about a laser cutter, where any noticeable accumulation of dust can irreparably damage the very expensive mirrors that are used to redirect the, in the context of directed energy weapons, very weak laser

>>34604528
I'm shocked, really

>make post last night
>come back
>only 1 (You)
>the person that (You)d me got 2 (You)s in return for a shitty joke
i want to die

>>34593713
>ARs have aluminum receivers so a thin piece of aluminum can block 5.56

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How many more years?

>>34604542
Lasers are still relatively short-ranged, and they are limited to line-of-sight. Anti-missile missiles aren't going away at any point.

>>34606264
not calling them Focal Alignment Glass Specialists

>>34599716

> China
> developing anything but dog recipes on their own

You have to choose, Wang.

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