/KTG/

>>34590736
How much you pay for that chubby spider

>>34590786
>chubby spider

go eat a fly ugly

stinky spoder

>>34590786

$48 dollerydoos. $15 more than my other Tenacious, but I don't feel that bad getting a limited edition version of a knife i love.

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>>34590736
What's a good bottom budget, absolute poorfag knife for general EDC?

Hardmode: What's a good bottom budget, absolute poorfag knife for general EDC for someone stuck in a place with Britain-tier knife laws?

I'm trying to compile an EDC list for poorfags (doesn't have a job or a phone, trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, may or may not have $7 for the bus depending on the week kind of poorfag). The idea is to have a list of bottom-dollar tools that are actually worth buying, that won't break or require replacement anytime soon and will make it easier for someone to function day-to-day at the bottom of society. My first draft is an Opinel No.8, a Casio F-91W, and a free pen and paper from a bank or hotel lobby.

>>34591308

Jesus fuck. Just move to USA already and vote for Trump. Quit wasting away in your cuck country. All your alpha males already jumped shipped 2-5 hundred years ago and made USA.

Asked last thread and no response. Whats the best sharpening system for less than $60 or should i just buy a bunch of stones?

>>34591351

Oh boy. I don't know about that. I am currently saving my pennies for a top of the line wicked edge system. From my research stones are the best, but take a lot of practice. I bet you could take a few sum total of $50 stones and practice with them and get pretty damn good, assuming you're using them on cheap knives.

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soon

>>34591332
It can't be the UK that opinel would be illegal there

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Got this knife as a gift

>>34591351
For your budget get a lansky kit and a leather strop and jewlers compound. If you have a chefs steel then use it often and you shouldn't need to sharpen again for months.

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>>34591332
I'm an American, I just know there are cucked states and cucked countries and I'd like to have a helpful list as a copy-pasta for those folks. Encouraging a mentality of self-reliance and local resiliency combats the globalist nanny state: help me sow the seeds of Liberty.

My EDC is a S&W M&P 9 Shield in a Blackhawk ARC IWB holster, a Streamlight MicroStream, one of several pocket knives, one of several watches, and generally also my phone, a Leatherman, and a Rite in the Rain pad with a writing utensil.

>>34591385
That's correct. I forget all of their rules, and they vary slightly across the isles, but the Opinel No.8 has a blade that is too long (I believe it generally has to be <3" for carry) and locking folders are prohibited.

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>>34591308
Byrd Tern.

$20 and designed for Britain-tier laws.

>>34591374
>>34591397
Well I'm pretty new to knives and don't even have one that costs more than $70 so I wanna keep it lower for some introductory stuff. I was looking at the sharpmaker+a strop but it seems to just be more of an upkeep type of thing even though I am an ocd piece of shit. I'd probably only be able to get 2 stones and a holder with my budget anyway, any problems with the lansky I should know about?

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Got the zt in utility orange.
Now thinking about a bark river in 4" or 5" and maybe an esee izula.

>>34592128
Also is the strop block for the lansky worth it or should I just make a strop out of a sheet of leather and a block of wood?

>>34592170
If you can do it right, do it yourself. A lot of the time it is cheaper (that is, if you value your time spent on the project lower than the difference between materials and finished product)

>>34591308
>Poorfag fixed knife, US
For straight value, a Mora Companion

>Poorfag liner-lock folding knife, US
Buck 284

>Avoid
Generic knives
(Most) Stainless Steel (unless you absolutely need rust resistance)
Anything more complicated than an assisted-opening knife (as a first knife)
OTF (any OTF at a budget pricepoint isn't worth it at this point)

>>34591308
If you are at the point where affording a bus ride is sketchy, here's an idea
>When you would ride the bus, don't.
Instead, put that $7 in a safe spot for emergencies. Only for emergencies.
>When it's piled high enough...
Find a bike at a local yard sale or something and ride it instead, then buy a heavy-duty bike lock so tyrone doesn't jack it.

>>34592244
>Avoid
>(Most) Stainless Steel (unless you absolutely need rust resistance)
This is knife fuddlore

>>34591308
If you're that poor just buy some chink sarenmu or something.

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>>34592105
Thanks, that's the best option for poorfag britbongs I've seen yet.

>>34592244
>checked
Very solid suggestions, thanks. I agree with keeping knives simple, my first pocket knives didn't have locks because my Dad wanted me to learn to use a folding knife without relying on the lock. Pic related, my first hunting knife.

>>34592269
Generally, agreed, this is the line of advice I give to poorfags. However, it's not always feasible or practical, sometimes a bus is the only way to get home, get showered, and get back to work in time for your next shift. Back when I was in pulling-myself-up-by-my-bootstraps mode, I legit slept in alleys, bushes, and public parks because I didn't always have time to get home (when I had a home) and back between shifts without the bus. I brought spare shirts, deodorant, and baby wipes to not completely smell like ass. Fortunately, I worked in a kitchen where you get sweaty and gross in the first 5 minutes and don't have dress in a very tidy fashion, so it didn't hurt me jobwise, but not everyone has this luxury. Also, I'm a 6'1" male martial artist with a good sense of situational awareness: it's less dangerous for me to walk around at sketch o'clock at night through questionable neighborhoods than it would be for, say, a 5'1" female with no martial competency or street smarts.

>>34592308
>(Most) Stainless Steel
I think "most" is an important qualifier here. Cheap stainless knives can be good, but they're very often not, in my experience.

>>34592313
What does Sanrenmu offer that Buck and Opinel don't at the same price point?

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Spyderco Military is static. Secondary changes around a lot, but is usually the manix II, pm2, or microtech ultratech

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>>34592457
>microtech ultratech
My negro.

>>34592403
>Cheap stainless knives can be good, but they're very often not, in my experience.
How are the stainless opinel knives?

>>34592457
>>34592558
fucking billionaires

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>>34592558
Yeeee buddy

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>>34592579
I've never personally touched a stainless one.

>>34592592
Don't worry poorfag, I made a post just for you >>34591308

>>34592598
How do you keep yours oiled? I've had massive success with conservative amounts of pic related.

>>34592652
>How do you keep yours oiled? I've had massive success with conservative amounts of pic related

I use a drop of either rem oil or hopped elite in the trigger well, then lightly oil the blade.

>>34592668
I didn't have very good luck with Rem Oil, it evaporated too quickly for my liking. How often do you oil it? I haven't had to reapply M-Pro 7 for months, but Rem Oil I had to do every other day.

>>34591351
Have a read of zknives. He has some great articles on knife sharpening. So does Cliff Stamp.

>>34592684

Eh, every other week or so. I need to get some mpro7. We use it at work and it's been pretty decent

>>34592750
It's my favorite gun oil so far, it lasts forever which is good because I forget to oil guns in the safe as often as I otherwise should.

>>34591308
sanrenmu 510

>>34592766
i mean 7010
idk why i thought it was 510

A fox cutlery Dobolock, a mallninja fidget knife

Gimmicky as fuck and only 440C but it functions well and it's a change from the usual, a good change of phase if you're tired of same old mechanics. Have not used it enough to know how well it preforms but it's Italian so I don't have high hopes and bet it'll develop some side to side eventually

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Who makes good karambit knives? They just look very cool to me...

>>34592838
>karambit
>good

>>34592766
>>34592775
Those reviews look a hell of a lot better than I expected for a stainless steel Chinese knife, thanks.

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Sebenza insingo

>>34591308
---EDC FOR POORFAGS---
>The goal of this document is to compose a list of the absolute cheapest EDC gear that won't break or require replacement anytime soon and will make it easier for someone to function day-to-day as they work their way up from the bottom of society.
>
--KNIVES--
>
LOCKING KNIVES:
>
>Opinel No8
>>$9.90 shipped
>>3.25" carbon steel blade
>>made in France
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SCUO04/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_aUYBzbA53F5MB
>>
>Buck 284
>>$14.16 shipped
>>2.75" 420HC stainless steel blade
>>made in America
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EHYZM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_XVYBzbAM6Y3SV
>>
>Sanrenmu 7010
>>$14.99 shipped
>>2.75" stainless steel blade
>>made in China
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMMPIK2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_3FYBzbPCBBABA
>
NON-LOCKING KNIVES:
>
>Spyderco Byrd Tern BY23G
>>$25.89 shipped
>>2.75" 8CR13MoV stainless steel blade
>>made in China
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DMFK3C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_m-YBzbVGANM1M
>
FIXED BLADE KNIVES:
>
>Morakniv Companion
>>$13.42 shipped
>>4.1" hardened Sandvik 12C27 stainless steel blade
>>made in Sweden
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZAIXSC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_86YBzbXY3E8G1
>
--WATCHES--
>
>Casio F-91W
>>$11.05 shipped
>>water resistant, can be easily hydro modded for waterproofing with oil and a small screwdriver
>>digital display
>>12hr/24hr time, date, stop watch, alarm, backlight
>>made in Japan
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J34HN4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_MwZBzbG7EA3X3
>
--FLASHLIGHTS--
>
>Streamlight MicroStream
>>$15.96 shipped
>>683 candela peak beam intensity, 28 lumens, and a beam distance of 52 meters
>>impact and water resistanat
>>good warranty
>>2.25 hours on one AAA battery
>>made in China
>>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00143JZ08/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_WGZBzb77VMBDH
>
--MULTITOOLS--
>
>Leatherman or Gerber, shop specific to lifestyle and anticipated tasks
>
--MISCELLANEOUS--
>
>generic ballpoint pen and notepad
>>free from hotel or bank lobby
>

>>34592558
>>34592598

pssst, you misplaced your fedoras

>>34593052
Is the HT still absolute dogshit?

>>34592838
Derespina

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>>34593120
They don't let me wear mine at work :-(

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>>34593150

Thank you,

>>34592775
7045 is pretty sharp'n'Solid aswell, got mine for 20$ its worth it

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I found a Cold Steel Espada large on Amazon for 214 and i have 25% off an item cause they fucked up the shipping on some shit for my bow. What's the chances that it's real and not a knock off?

>>34592838
Emerson has a nice thin, light, and we'll balanced fixed blade karambit that's very natural in the hand. They also have folders with a straight cut on the tip so it's not as fragieeleee.

>>34592838
I'd recommend the Ontario EOD karambit for a cheaper fixed blade option. It has a decent shape to it. Looks like you could make it double edged too.

Hi friends, first time posting on /k/, so I hope this is the right thread to ask this kind of question. But something happened tonight and now I am set on arming myself and my partner.

>be me working late
>phone keeps going off, ignore it because I have a crazy lady for a regional manager
>check phone later
>partner has been supermoto around the suburbs
>bike fallen down an embankment in a empty lot, can't get it back up
>asks local for help
>"what did you say about my father"
>uwot.jpg
>partner says not to worry
>man starts charging at partner, releases an ungodly scream
>yelling that he is going to kill him
>partner starts booking it
>man chases him into the bushes where he has to hide until the police arrive

Upon learning about the situation, I obviously now want him to be armed when riding around. We live in Australia, so getting a gun is kind of out of the question. What sort of knife would you recommend for daily carry as well as for a bike? I would probably get one for myself, as I'm also looking at getting more into /out/ stuff and prepping.

>>34593576
What are Aussie knife carry restrictions like? What's your budget? Do you have any martial experience influencing how you intend to put steel to flesh?

>>34591308
Just move to australia or canada and sign up for autism bux.

>>34591568
You forgot to put your vape pen in the pic.

>>34593616
As far as I know, carrying a knife in public at all in Australia is illegal unless you have a "reasonable excuse". Knives such as butterfly knives are illegal entirely.
I'm looking to spend downwards of 60. I can't say I am overly familiar with the prices of knives so I'm not sure what that would get you.
As for having any experience- no. The only times I've ever used a knife where in Army Cadets and for random shit at home.

>>34592308
>>Avoid
>>(Most) Stainless Steel (unless you absolutely need rust resistance)
>This is knife fuddlore
nyet.
SS is shit to sharpen and wont hold an edge like carbon.
tldr ask a machinist about working with SS.

>>34592652
That pic on the label.
Exactly who their market is.
Edgy faglords who larp on weekends.

>>34593628
Vaping nerfs cardio gains.

>>34593678
Are you this stupid?

SS steels have come a long way. If you're not restricted by budget constraints you can get some damn good SS steel and a fucking diamond stone. It's not that hard if you aren't a lazy piece of shit. But i guess being a "machinist" you're not used to doing the work yourself.

M390, S110V, S90V, 154CM, 440C,ELMAX, ETC ETC..

>ask a machinist..

If you want misinformation.

>>34593690
Confirmed noguns. This shit is vastly superior to Rem Oil and has made me go from barely tolerating the AR platform to actually enjoying it almost as much as my AKs.

>>34593167
>has decal, claims emt

>>34593197
OOFAH!! Who is this semen demon?

>>34593638
What kind of knives can you carry with a "reasonable excuse"? That's a weird concept to me, I've always thought it was unreasonable to *not* have a pocket knife: it's one of the most basic multi-purpose tools humans have.

>>34593843
They likely mean for employment. Like a construction worker/electrician may have a knife because he actually uses it as a tool.

But your claim for it as a basic human tool is self-serving. Knives have been traditionally used has weapons (perhaps for nefarious purpose, perhaps for defense.) To deny that would be asinine.

>>34593892
Knives were tools before they were "weapons".
To deny this is asinine.

Do you call a hammer a tool or a weapon?
What about a screwdriver?
A crowbar?
Pliers?
Scissors?
Shovel?
Ink pens?
A stick?
A stone?
A paperclip?
Anything can be a weapon.

What tool isn't self serving?

>>34593100
>>F91W
>>ALOHA SNACKBAR

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>>34593959

>>34593892
>But your claim for it as a basic human tool is self-serving. Knives have been traditionally used has weapons (perhaps for nefarious purpose, perhaps for defense.) To deny that would be asinine.
I was given a non-locking pocket knife, unsuitable for fighting, at age 5 because it's a basic tool that humans use. At age 12, I was given a slightly larger non-locking pocket knife as a tool for dressing game. Despite being a martial artist and concealed carrier who carried a pocket knife since age 5, I didn't start carrying one suitable as a weapon until I confiscated one from a belligerent drunk while working security at a club at age 24. I have as many scars from getting stabbed with a knife (one) as I do from being stabbed with a pencil: any tool can be used as a weapon (just ask a Filipino martial arts practitioner, they're really big on improvised weapons and are typically frighteningly creative in that regard).

>>34593932
>Do you call a hammer a tool or a weapon?
>What about a screwdriver?
>A crowbar?
>Pliers?
>Scissors?
>Shovel?
>Ink pens?
>A stick?
>A stone?
>A paperclip?
>Anything can be a weapon.
This anon illustrates another good point: if you can't legally carry a knife, pick something else. A britbong anon was saying he defends himself from criminal scum in London with a big heavy padlock on a chain. Pick a weapon that won't get you arrested (like a wieldy crescent wrench), and practice with that. Take up a respectable martial art and learn how to fight: a force multiplier doesn't do you any good if it's multiplying zero.

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>>34593816
Oh no, the stranger on the internet thinks I lied about getting into a low- to middle-paying profession after taking an easy semester-long course that doesn't even have a high-school diploma, a GED, or adulthood as a prerequisite...

>>34594078
The padlock on the a chain thing would probably work if you ride a bike i guess. But if they frisk you and just find that in your pocket the peelers might take you in. In freedom land it's common to secure your bike to something so it doesn't get stolen. Not sure how it works across the pond in golly ol ungunned.

>>34590736
spyderco is god-tier, 10/10 well done anon

>>34593827
Julia Benson

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Last 2 knives I've purchased.

Benchmade RSK Mk1
Microtech Ultratech

>>34593758
>440C
It's a midrange 40 dollar knife steel at best

>>34591393
Is that a buck and bear? Looks alright. Whoever built it got their mosaic from Jantz.

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>>34593760
>Rem Oil
>Not using G96 or Boeshield t-9

You live under a rock?

Anyway, here are my knives.

>>34594508
Why did you get the benchmade with black coating when it just wears off?

>>34594578
Thought it looked cool at the time, and it was $20 more than the other model.

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>>34592838
$33

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Carrying this one today.
S90V and CF

>>34593100
Morakniv companion is offered in 1095 as well

https://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40

>>34594078

What marital arts would be the "most efficient" to learn? Not the same anon but now im curious now that you brought up the force multiplier thing

Would practicing personally help at all?

>>34594078
>defending yourself in europe
>not illegal

>>34594681
I like that ZT between the Ultratech and that Manix imma have to pick up a ZT soon

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I was looking through my Grandpa's stuff and i found this. Does anyone know what brand is this Switchblade?

Why the fuck are balisongs so expensive

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>>34590736
Got this in the mail today.
It is amazing what you can get for your money today. No blade play, Lock up not too early or late, Flipper action works without wrist action, solid steel choice, grippy G10 even the centering is done right.
Blade needed a 1 minute touch up, one torx screw on the pocketclip could only be removed with unconventional means.

Next on the list is the Y-Start jin-01, budget channels claim it's the best chinese budget folder.

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>>34595163
People are willing to pay the prices to flip them around

>>34595163

Because it's a niche that's only available for use in some countries.

>>34595106
Oh wow.
Looks like it's hand forged. Look for the signature of the smith. Normally found at the ricasso.

If there are no marks whatsoever, it's probably some Indian/Pakistani shit

>>34595106
pic of blade pls

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>>34595427
>>34595529
It doesn't have a signature or anything. Any Idea what year it was made in? My grandpa passed away so I can't ask him

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>>34595427
>>34595529

>>34593932

Why don't you carry this with you all day:
>A crowbar?
>Shovel?
>A stick?
>A stone?

They're tools right, and you never know when you'll need them. Just like a knife right? Right?

>What tool isn't self serving?
No, doofus, your _explanation_ was self-serving.

>>34594049
Who the fuck are you Doug Marcaida? Go blog somewhere else about your wannabe toughguy faggotry.

Anyone who gives a 5 year old, or even a 12 year old a fucking knife is a moron. You father was/is a fucking dirtbag, and clearly you are too,.

>>34594145
No, I figured you were, I just wanted sufficient proof that you were a loser. And believe me, your response was priceless. Even going so far as to admit:
>a low- to middle-paying profession after taking an easy semester-long course that doesn't even have a high-school diploma, a GED, or adulthood as a prerequisite...

I commend your honesty.

Where'd you go wrong in life, do you know? Although the deck was stacked against you as you're in Pennsylvania.

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Who small knife here? These are my new knives.

>>34595551
>>34595560
>short fat stubby fingers

Point the tip of the blade to your chest, pull

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Why do i still love this thing as much as the day i got it

>>34595797
It's kind of dull, though

>>34595243
I miss mine.had one with wood handles.it was just really too THICC for my taste.

>>34593257
They dont make knockoffs for that knife.if you ever want to known if tgere is knockoffs of a knife you want search for it on dhgate or aliexpress.

How to avoid getting jewed with fakes on ebay when the price is better than amazon, bladehq, and knifecenter?

I already know to never buy from sellers in china unless I'm buying a chinkshit knife

>>34595693
It's perfectly logically to carry all of those in your car. Knife goes in the pocket because it's small

>>34595919
Hey dummy, the discussion was about carrying a knife with a "reasonable excuse." Try an keep up. If it's in your car, are you carrying it? You can leave your fucking knife in your car too.

The point I'm trying to make, is that _the point the laws are trying to make_ is if you are not carrying a knife for the purpose of "business" as it a tool for a carpenter, electrician, even a stock boy, etc while actively working, you are likely carrying it for the purpose of "self defense" which then may show prior "intent" to use it as a weapon.

These laws didn't come into existence yesterday, they have been around since the times of when knives where the only freely available weapon, like before guns became a "thing." Sure, knife laws have been expanded on, but they have been around for along time.

>>34595724
>Anyone who gives a 5 year old, or even a 12 year old a fucking knife is a moron
Anyone who raises a 12 year old who can't handle a simple tool for whittling, opening packages, processing food, etc. is a fucking moron. How incompetent were you at 12, really? Did your parents cut your steak for you? Chew it for you, too? 12 is the age requirement for a junior hunting license in Pennsylvania, 5 year olds without developmental issues have the fine motor skills to safely handle a knife with instruction.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Graham

>>34595767
>And believe me, your response was priceless.
Holy shit, a compliment on my shitposting.

>Where'd you go wrong in life, do you know?
I used to be an engineering student at a respectable school, then tl;dr I got sick which messed up my grades which messed up my funding. Now I spend my days struggling to find a reason to not walk halfway across a bridge and take a 90° turn.

>>34594162
Anon's question was
>What sort of knife would you recommend for daily carry as well as for a bike?
, so it checks out.

>>34596288
Would you seriously give a 12 year old anything besides a single shot 22?

>>34594836
judo/wrestling/BJJ + boxing/kickboxing/muay thai + FMA + parkour

>legitimate grappling art combined with legitimate striking art combined with a system that deals with weapons plus a way to run the fuck away like you should most of the time

>>34596346
Yes. At that age I hunted deer with a .30-30 Winchester lever gun and pheasant and turkey with a 12ga semi-auto and had no problem shooting a .30-06 bolt gun offhand. Those were all my Dad's guns, but he gave me a .22lr bolt gun to practice and my friend and I would go plinking without "adult" supervision on a very regular basis. Dad cut down the stock on a .30-30 so my little sister had a gun to shoot for deer hunting at age 12, and she could shoot safely and accurately.

I've seen kindergartners shooting .22s employing better safety practices than most adults and I've seen 12 year olds and younger shooting clays or hunting pheasants. It largely comes down to parenting and the kid's natural temperament. The idea of teenage years being separate from adulthood is a relatively modern concept created by industrialization and the establishment of high school as the norm: 12 year olds used to be considered almost-adults. Calvin Graham (illegally) enlisted as a 12 year old, earning a Bronze Star and Purple Heart at Guadalcanal--I think he could handle a pocket knife and more than a single shot .22.

>>34596288
>12 is the age requirement for a junior hunting license in Pennsylvania, >>5 year olds without developmental issues<<
How did you get passed that?

>>34595693
I actually keep a small shovel in my minivan and it's saved my ass on multiple occasions with mud and snow. I also carry a pocket knife everyday and have used it several times today to open various types of packaging (food packaging, envelope, box of new van parts) and to pry open the obnoxious charging port cover on my cell phone. I don't really trust the liner lock on it so I'd be hesitant to use it for self defense.

>>34596004
>If it's in your car, are you carrying it?
If it's on your bike, are you carrying it? You asked about defense for your partner while riding: my Dad kept a small toolbox on his motorcycle and I kept a small tool bag on my bicycle. Something like a crescent wrench is both a useful bike tool and a usable weapon.

>The point I'm trying to make, is that _the point the laws are trying to make_ is if you are not carrying a knife for the purpose of "business" as it a tool for a carpenter, electrician, even a stock boy, etc while actively working, you are likely carrying it for the purpose of "self defense" which then may show prior "intent" to use it as a weapon.
Do Aussies just sit around and finger their assholes when not on the clock? Don't you do things outside of your profession? What if you buy something that you need to use right away, like a phone charger, that's packaged in that hard, tough plastic? Do you have to wait until you get home to use a pair of safety scissors to open packages? Even my grandmother keeps a small folding knife in her bag for utilitarian purposes, and the knives my father and grandfathers carry are not suitable for self-defense, purely for utilitarian purposes.

>>34596325
>then tl;dr I got sick
Was it drugs, PA anon? Be honest.
What was the illness? Name it.

I was in a major car wreck, yes, thanks EMT, but mostly helicopter medivac (as I'm sure you know they are RNs) and was hospitalized for 10 months and took almost two years to fully rehab. I went back to school during the recovery, walking with first two crutches, then two canes, then one cane, and completed my bachelor's degree. Thankfully don't need the canes anymore, but will have to get a knee replacement- it was rekt and had three surgeries to repair ligaments.

But I digress, what was this mysterious life shattering illness that you got that ruined your educational dreams, but still allows you to provide life saving assistance to people in need of /life saving assistance.\

What was the illness, anon?

>>34596693
I only ate lead paint chips in moderation.

>>34596782
>I actually keep a small shovel in my minivan
Well of course, it's part of your rape kit. Along with the crowbar, knife, duct tape, ski mask(balaclava), etc

>Do Aussies just sit around and finger their assholes when not on the clock?
You've never holidayed in Australia. This is like literally what they do.

But to your earlier point, I open mail at my desk with my letter opener. I open food packages with whatever knife I grab first in the knife block in the kitchen. I don't usually open a box of van parts because I am not a serial rapist, but if I do get a package, I have a couple of utility knives or "EDC" laying about, one in the kitchen "utility drawer," one in the office desk drawer, a few in the garage, an plenty of baby killing knives with my gun shit in The Room. But no, I don't walk around with a fuckign knife in my pocket because I usually wear a suit or casual clothes instead of a trench coat or fatigues. I don't operate operationally.

If you are the EMT, then you have a valid reason to carry an knife. If not, it's Asperg-Austim.

>>34596792
I like you, bro. Actually enjoying talking to you. I hope you don't take that turn on the bridge.

>>34595794

Those look fuckhuge.

>>34596782
>If it's on your bike, are you carrying it? You asked about defense for your partner while riding: my Dad kept a small toolbox on his motorcycle and I kept a small tool bag on my bicycle. Something like a crescent wrench is both a useful bike tool and a usable weapon.

I've seen an actually bicycle used as a weapon, a few times, in Manhattan. Usually to push or bang(thrust forward) a dude but once, was sort of swung over the head- held from the bars and the rear tire was swung up and down onto some dudes face, then the fucker got back on his bike and rode away, bent tire and all. Bike messengers are dangerous;

Come to think of it, maybe I should carry a knife to stab them in case I get into an altercation. Your convinced me anon!

>>34595857
Can't be thick enough for me. I have got glove size 11 but this handle seems comfy enough for carving wood, the edges are nicely rounded.

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>>34596862
>If you are the EMT, then you have a valid reason to carry an knife. If not, it's Asperg-Austim.
I am the EMT, and I use a pocket knife off the job extremely frequently. Do you never buy packages outside of your house and just stay home and shop on Amazon? Are traditional pocket knives really that alien to you? Pic related is approximately what my first pocket knife was like, and akin to what my father, grandfathers, and grandmother carry (my mother has pocket knives, but has gotten out the habit of carrying them since working in schools). It has a small, non-locking blade and isn't really suited to self-defense at all: it's just a tool.

>>34596791
Insomnia bad enough that I couldn't carry coherent conversations. It costs around $500 to get an EMT certification, less than the cost of one credit at my university.

At the tail end of high school, I was eating 7 large meals a day and working out 3-5 hours a day. When I went to university, I wasn't in sports anymore so I slowed all of that down suddenly, and went from sleeping alone in a dark, quiet room to having 3 roommates (4 of us in the same fucking room) with different schedules and habits. I got straight As on all of my assignments for the first month and a half, then just kind of stopped functioning: I had been able to sleep less and less, and wasn't really able to hit REM sleep. Going days without sleep, and then sleeping only enough to rest my body but not my mind, messed me up pretty badly. I had self-corrected the issue by the time I talked to a competent doctor (student health services made it worse), but it turns out that sudden changes in diet and exercise can cause sleep disorders and are the first fucking things you should ask about when somebody comes to you with a sleep disorder (student health services didn't do this).

So, I went from being a straight-A student athlete to a crazy homeless guy. Got my head on straight after a bit, spent my days working out and reading. Eventually got a dishwashing job and saved up enough to get my EMT cert. Next step is to somehow get into medic school despite tanking my grades, then apply that towards a 4-year degree, then do a bioE grad program.


>>34596891
Don't worry, my Anonymous friend, my spirit of shitposting will persist when my mortal coil has perished.
>/k/ is a strange place, most of us have never met and our lives will never cross yet we build ties like some weird adoptive family. The longer you stay here the more you realize night time /k/ is like a meeting of ghosts, anonymous and unyielding we strive for a common goal, we share stories, ideas, info and most importantly laughs.

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Anyone has experience with the HX OUTDOORS ZD - 006? Looks like a decent knife for a 100 bucks.

>>34596791
>helicopter medivac (as I'm sure you know they are RNs)
Actually, a fair number of them are paramedics (EMT-P). Medics and RNs are roughly equivalent in their level of care.

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holy shit /ktg/ where the fuck can i buy a non-shit anvil that wont butt-fuck my wallet

>>34597359
What's your budget and what are you doing with it?

>>34594750
Awesome, thanks. I've updated my list.

>>34597377
i would like to say 300 but i dont think i can get anything decent below 450,

i wanna make large daggers/bowies (9-12 inches) all by hand

>>34597377
i wouldn't be making anything bigger

>>34597359
Here's a good starting point. There are relevant links at the bottom of the page, too.

http://anvilfire.com/21centbs/Selecting-an-Anvil.php

>>34591351
Spyderco Sharpmaker. Paid ~$55. Far easier to use than stones, but stones will do a better job. But you will be paying more for those stones too.

>>34597377
Two points
1) You don't need a fucking anvil. You can get by with a railroad track 4" wide and about a foot long. I found one at a yard sale for 10 bucks.
2)If you are an absolute autist, there's a dude 20 minutes away who as had like a dozen anvils on Craigslist for a few weeks back. Prices seemed to be in the $250 to $400 range They turn up there all the time. Check there.

>>34597359
check your local scrapyard

>>34597794
How does it compare to the lansky?

>>34598944
The lansky maintains the angle for you, with the sharpmaker you just have to maintain the knife straight up and down. Its easy and fast to use, the lansky requires a bit more fiddling. They are both good options.

>>34598944
>>34598944
i would go with the spydeco after having the lansky,
for some years, but im saving up for a wicked edge go

god speed to you anon

I like knives.

>>34601754
I don't believe you, get out of here noknives.

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Anyone know what model of Spyderco this is?

>>34601946

Doesn't look real. Like the blade of a spyderco and the handle of something else.

>>34602152

Nevermind, looks like a Spyderco PPT.

>>34601946
Sprint Run PPT with a custom handle

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>>34596898
It was "macro shot",here is a shot with a ruler in centimeters.

>>34599268
I've heard it's pretty good at maintaining edges that are already sharpened so I think I'll go with that, I'm ocd with my knives and just wiping them off so I think it might be better going with the sharpmaker.

>>34591308
>What's a good bottom budget, absolute poorfag knife for general EDC?
Opinel
>Hardmode: What's a good bottom budget, absolute poorfag knife for general EDC for someone stuck in a place with Britain-tier knife laws?
Victorinox Classic

>>34592269
This desu.

It costs me 70$ a month to use public transport, so when my bicycle breaks in the most horrible way possible I can just get it repaired or buy a new one and still be better off in the long run.

3.50$ per day might not seem like a lot, but at the end of the month that's still 70$.

What is it with boner knives? I can never get them sharp enough even though I can do it with various other knives, of same and harder steel, but for some reason I can not get past barely sharp with these knives.

Other question, is d2 supposed to dent if it hits a steel shipping crate while ripping off the plastic wrap around it? They were rather light hits instead of going at it full strength

>>34602880
>Victorinox Classic
Can't believe I forgot that one, thanks!

>>34591308
Current list:
---EDC FOR POORFAGS---
The goal of this document is to compose a list of the absolute cheapest EDC gear that won't break or require replacement anytime soon and will make it easier for someone to function day-to-day as they work their way up from the bottom of society.

--KNIVES--

LOCKING KNIVES:

Opinel No8
>$9.90 shipped
>3.25" carbon steel blade
>made in France
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SCUO04/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_aUYBzbA53F5MB

Buck 284
>$14.16 shipped
>2.75" 420HC stainless steel blade
>made in America
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EHYZM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_XVYBzbAM6Y3SV

Sanrenmu 7010
>$14.99 shipped
>2.75" stainless steel blade
>made in China
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMMPIK2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_3FYBzbPCBBABA

NON-LOCKING KNIVES:

Victorinox Classic
>$14.16 shipped
>1.25" stainless steel blade
>stainless steel nail file with screwdriver, scissors, key ring, and tweezers; plastic toothpick
>made in Switzerland
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YVB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_LEiCzbXBCQPTG

Spyderco Byrd Tern BY23G
>$25.89 shipped
>2.75" 8CR13MoV stainless steel blade
>made in China
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DMFK3C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_m-YBzbVGANM1M

FIXED BLADE KNIVES:

Morakniv Companion
>$13.96 shipped
>4.1" high carbon steel blade
>made in Sweden
>https://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40

>>34603088
--WATCHES--

Casio F-91W
>$11.05 shipped
>water resistant, can be easily hydro modded for waterproofing with oil and a small screwdriver
>digital display
>12hr/24hr time, date, stop watch, alarm, backlight
>made in Japan
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J34HN4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_MwZBzbG7EA3X3

--FLASHLIGHTS--

Streamlight MicroStream
>$15.96 shipped
>683 candela peak beam intensity, 28 lumens, and a beam distance of 52 meters
>impact and water resistanat
>good warranty
>2.25 hours on one AAA battery
>made in China
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00143JZ08/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_WGZBzb77VMBDH

--MULTITOOLS--

Leatherman or Gerber, shop specific to lifestyle and anticipated tasks

--MISCELLANEOUS--

generic ballpoint pen and notepad
>free from hotel or bank lobby

---end---

>>34603037
>What is it with boner knives?
>of same and harder steel
They have pills for that.

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i heard you guys like knifes

>>34604038
That is only one knife. One isn't good enough.

>>34591351
>>34591374
Long ago, my dad got me a Smith's tri-hone stone, it's got 3 on it in a triangle. Literally all you ever need to learn, but it had you're finest stone of only 1k. Plenty good stone though, but remember to learn on shit knives so you don't mess up your good ones

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>>34604435
this is the only other one i have with me today

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Haven't heard much about Bear Ops but took a chance on their Stiletto model since I like the looks of it. S30V and USA made, pls be gud...

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>>34596862
>saying this on /k/
How dumb are you, anon?

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>>34591308
Researching my list, I found out that while the larger Opinels lock, the smaller ones do not. The blades are available in carbon steel or stainless steel.

https://www.opinel.com/en/pocket-knives-and-tools/tradition

locking Opinel blade lengths:
No6 2.75"(7cm)
No7 3.14"(8cm)
No8 3.25"(8.5cm)
No9 3.54"(9cm)
No10 3.93"(10cm)
No12 4.72"(12cm)

non-locking Opinel blade lengths:
No5 2.36"(6cm)
No4 1.96"(5cm)
No3 1.57"(4cm)
No2 1.38"(3.5cm)

In your opinion, what's the ideal blade length for EDC? Opinel considers the 3.25" No8 to be their flagship, but the other two locking knives on the list at >>34603088 have 2.75" blades like the No6.

>>34602853

14 inches long holy shit

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>>34604549
>this is the only other one i have with me today

i wasn't lying when i posted that.
i didn't have this until about 10 minutes ago when the mail was delivered.
go ahead berate me all you want, i deserve it for this one.
now that i have this in my hand i can honestly say that i have no idea why i bought this beyond just thinking it looks so odd that it looks cool. or something like that
i am literally never going to use this.
i doubt i'll even use it to open a box

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>>34605038
It is really not that big,it is raelly small for me,here is comparaison with my hand.

>>34605912
>>34605912
cute

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>>34605761
Go full meme and add a Wise Men Signet Ring to it.

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I have a Buck 119 and its honestly the best knife I ever had and its so nice I hate to use it.

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>>34590736
r8, h8, and b8

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getting this big bitch soon
cant wait,

>>34609019
it's a bitch to sharp that is for sure

>>34609056
oh fuck yeah, this will be my first non-convex condor product so hopefully they didnt shit on the edge
its a hollow grind i think

>>34604038
>>34604549
>this faggot bought all the overpriced marketed memes of the forums

hows that sebenza overpricing and that strider lock rock and gritty opening for 400$?

dummy

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>>34593816
b..but he has safety scissors!

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>>34595794

Yo.

>>34592457
>manix II w/ g-10 black flat ground blade

soon.....

>>34609115
jeez anon you seem mad.
Sebenza - yep, they're kinda pricey.
Strider - i think it was actually more like $500.00, but there's no lock rock and the action is very smooth.
i'm pretty happy with both knives. sorry m8

what knives do you own?
please post some pics

>>34609115
hey you forgot to call me out on the Matriarch 2 too

>>34609304
Is that a Joe Watson?

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>>34609967

Bradford

>>34610021
that looks like a nice little knife.
can you post a pic gripping it?
curious to see how it fits in your hand

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Outta the way bladelets

Check out my new baby doll

>>34610137

That's a nice handle you got there.

can u helb me fin Finnish M 39 Sk.Y. bayonet plox

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>>34610152

Thanks senpai. Its really fun to fuck around with

>>34610204

Fuck no it's not a nice handle, I was kidding.

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>>34610204
....
>ust
>paracord
>saw back

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>>34610272
>>34610273

$15 blade lol, what matters is how i swing it (hard and fast)

>not having a multipurpose tool

sad

>>34610469

Yeah, and I bet you swing both ways too.

>>34610501

does my big blade intimidate you?

>>34610469
Sawbacks are stupid, they take away the things you can do with a smooth back edge, get snagged on things, and don't work as well as, say, a Fiskars folding saw.

>>34603088
Maybe switch the 7010 to the Sanrenmu LAND 910. Supposedly has 12C27 steel with G10 scales.

>>34610469
This isn't Facebook, faggot

>>34610700
>Sanrenmu LAND 910
Know of a reputable seller who has them in stock? I'm finding a lot of reviews, but not many in the hands of retailers legitimate enough to even have an https page.

>>34595794
What's that top one?

>>34594681
>Civilian
I want one of those, might just buy a Matriarch 2. You don't like small knives huh?

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>>34590736
R8

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>>34610137
>my new baby doll
>$15 chinkshit made of mystery stainless steel
>>34610896
>Also mystery steel chinkshit

>>34610273
w-wats wrong with paracord

>>34607738
Buck should make a version of this knife using elmax

>>34610891
>Matriarch 2
hey i literally bought one today.
#tbqh i think it's, for me at least almost 100% useless knife.
i don't think i'll ever carry it.
ymmv
if a situation were ever to arise where i'd need it: i'd be fucked. it would be in a storage
bin in my garage

>>34610608
also: it's gunna hurt like a mf when it bounces back cuz dull blade, and clocks you in the face

>>34611304
>for me at least almost 100% useless knife.
I am aware, this is the only thing that has stopped me from buying it, I know I would never carry it.

>>34607738
Buck Knives are great
if you never buy another knife: you dun good son
Buck 110 was a meaningful knife and a rite of passage for many knifefags

>>34611336
bro, if i knew you i'd just give you mine.
i do have to admit: as a total waste-of-money-cool-thing-to-buy i do like it.
kinda flimsy though
the handle is thin and seems cheap and the blade seems thin, brittle and cheap

knives, for many of us are just 'pocket jewelry' as the poorfags like to say.
manchild toys
i can live with that

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>>34611355

My 110 is a breddy good knife for $40. Sharp and nice in the hand, but it's very outdated. Very heavy, and the blade will snap back on you real quick. It will definitely cut someone who isn't experienced with knives.

It's an outdated, obsolete design, but a nice fun knife for the collector or history buff.

>>34610129

I have medium, maybe medium/large hands. Anything bigger and your pinky will hang below. This is not a knife you will get a full grip on if you have large to really large hands.

>>34608925
>can't tell if chink strider or real one
also, that green mora next to the leatherman and the best knife i have ever owned. it leaves my busse and swamp rat in the gutter i can't break the fucking thing

>>34611960
>>can't tell if chink strider or real one
i dont think it us

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Does anyone know which knife Steve uses to open MRE packets?

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Wish this knife was half an inch longer.

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Is this chinkshit or at least somewhat decent?

http://www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-and-folding-knives/pp_614982.html

>>34612105

>is this chinkshit
>gearbest
What do you think, bub?

>>34612060
Buck 110 and a variant of the buck vantage.

I think I've also seen an Ontario 499 on a webbing set in the background on some older videos.

>>34612071
Try an Ontario ranger falcon. It's pretty much what you're describing. No personal experience with that knife though.

I like the RAT 3 the way it is. The size and finger choil make it an interesting little fixed blade.

>>34612184

I just need the handle to be a tad bit longer. I know the ESEE 3's handle is longer, but I already have this.

>>34612234
How about making or commissioning handle scales and a spacer out of micarta/ g10 to desired length? Kinda like on some half or 3/4 tang knives.

>>34612105
i want to say 'no' but it really depends on your intended use and expectations
it will open mail

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>>34610843
ESEE Camp Lore 2.5

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>>34591308 here, I think I found another solid budget non-locking knife suitable for britbongs and other such Cuckistanis.

Svord Peasant
>upwards from $13 shipped
>available with 1.875", 2.5", 3", 3.375", and 8.5" carbon steel blades
>polypropylene, metal, or wood handle
>extended tang sits in your hand while the knife is open, preventing it from closing
>made in New Zealand
http://www.svord.com/index.php?id_category=26&controller=category

>>34613431
These are good knives just be sure to get the plastic handled ones because the wood is shit quality, also

>>34604852
No9 and no8 are pretty much the best

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>>34613567
>the wood is shit quality
Shit finish that can be fixed, or just actual shitwood?

>No9 and no8 are pretty much the best
No8 seems to be the most popular. I was thinking it might be a fun project at some point to put a No4 blade in a No9 (kind of like in pic related).

>>34591308
go to france in the countryside and buy some knives

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>>34613820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPeHbvQgiTY

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>>34590736
I got this last week, a House Of Blades Kershaw Link, s35vn, blue Aluminum scales, red aluminum backspacer... so far I like it a lot.

Very nice blade shape, and the anodizing it more tough than I expected

>>34613651
Like it's just shit tier wood

>>34614337
Are they as straightforward to disassemble as they look? I like the look of these with the wood handle, so I was thinking of getting a cheap one with a polypropylene handle and making a new handle out of wood, maybe try to find some pieces of birdseye or burly maple or something.

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i also like flashlights. and pens.
oops, fell for the meme again - i just got this knife from MSC.
the smoothed and contoured G10 feels nice, but it's a little hard to get a good grip on it when trying to pull it out of my pocket.
sharp as heck and very solid when opened.

>>34614465
I bet you have expensive brass and titanium fidget spinners too, dummy

>>34615075
you still seem mad anon.
if you care to scroll up, you can see the one spinner i do own. yep, titanium. the core is copper.
honestly, it's not very entertaining. i'll probably give to my buddy for his kid.

>>34609019
well the site i ordered from said there were none in stock because they mis-counted..holy shit guess not

>>34615225
save your shekels for something nicer anon

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>>34615075
hey anon, here's a close-up pic just for you

>>34615544

>$60

>>34615716
i'll try to spend more wisely next time anon

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I'm excited for my glorified toothpick it's going to be my little friend

>>34615544
aahahaha i fucking knew it

>>34615947
pretty obvious anon, considering i posted it in an earlier pic too.

can we get a bump for more hate?

>>34611283
nothing as long as they aren't made into handles

>>34617215
what's wrong with paracord handles?

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>>34617597
they become loose,
they dont fill the hand,
there's this stigma that para cord wrapped knives.tools are trash, and from what ive come to find thats mostly true,

yeah they serve a purpose for "incase you need some cordage" but once you used it then you have bare steel in your hand and now its less hand filling, making it easier to slip from your hand
and the shock can make it less than adequate if you want to chop something

ive found a lot of knife makers use paracord as a way to "make a handle" without really making a handle,

Does anybody have experience with the newer Old Timer fixed blades? I kinda want to get the boot knife, but I don't know if the quality is there or not. Schrade tends to be pretty hit and miss.

>>34617685
>ive found a lot of knife makers

can you give citations for knives you've actually owned and maybe post some pics?
that strider knock-off appears to just have some string wrapped around the handle

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Anyone got any recommendations? Chipped this thing trying to get at a water line, don't want to bother getting a new blade for it

Schrade sharp-finger for budget list??

>>34615971
You fit the "forum" trend faggot mold so well its ridiculous.

Id guess if you smoke you have a fancy cigar cutter, or you have to have some fancy smokes to feel better about people around you.

You only drink craft beer.

You post pictures of your knives from your car on forums to show what you drive as well.

I mean come the fuck on, when is this titanium framelock trend going to end, its idiots like you that keep those shitty locks coming and coming

>>34615866
Mini autos are great for EDC provided you don't do a lot food prep.

>>34617765

>Using a sak for anything other than cutting cheese

>>34618109
i'm glad that i could meet your expectations.
this is actually the only place i post knife pics.
and i drive a shitty old jap car that i paid $2000 for

i encourage you to post some of your knives anon

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>>34618746
SAK is a perfectly good knife. Fite me irl.

What is a good knife under 50 bucks? I'm pretty much going to use it to cut packing tape, zip ties and boxes at my job. I don't want something super cheapo, but don't want to spend too much because I keep losing these damn things.

Probably going to get a leatherman CT33 because that's what I always get and they work super well for what I need them for, but I might buy two to have a backup knife as well.

Does need to be survival tier, or "hurr tactical self defense" (I have a gun for that) just sharp enough to do the job, small enough to slip into my pocket and forget about it and quick to deploy with one hand.

Anyone have a Spyderco Positron?

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>>34619382

>>34619382

Spyderco Tenacious, literally the best folding knife there is. And yes, I have more expensive knives.

>>34619485
>>34619382

I second the tenacious, or resilience.

Everything about it is like a $100+ spyderco except for the steel. The steel is great in that it takes a wicked edge and is easy to sharpen. The bad is that it will wear faster than a premium steel and can rust if you aren't careful.

>>34618109
hey by the way, i don't smoke and no mouth fedora either
and i don't like beer, especially craft beer.

>>34619485
i can't agree with 'best' but i bought one from knifecenter when they first came out and i have to say that i was impressed, especially for the price. i think they were less than $35 at the time

>>34619382
Most ganzos

>>34619382
Ontario RAT-1 or ESEE Avispa in D2.

Ontario utilitac series for budget list.

>>34617765
>That pasty hand
Anon go outside some time, that's scary.

>want an eXXXtra large meme tanto to compensate for my micropenis
>figure Cold Steel is the best for this shit because of all the *unsheathes cold steel katana* memes
>10 inches of 1055 carbon steel for $450
Where do I buy memes if not the meme shoppe?

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>>34620478
>want an eXXXtra large meme tanto
Exactly how large and what's your budget? Also I'm seeing 12" CS tantos for about $250 on Knifecenter which leads me to believe that you were looking at CS's page. With the exception of sales only rubes buy directly from the manufacturer.

>>34620546
>how large
Over 12" at least. I'm open to blending the lines between knife and short sword to sate my crippling autism.
>what's your budget
I have poor money management skills. $800, flexible, with absolutley no need to go that high if it's not necessary, which I'm (almost) entirely sure it's not.

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>>34620637
Sort yourself out. Real talk, this glimpse into your lifestyle and personality is not pretty. Do not spend $800 on a fucking knife or 'shortsword'.

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>>34620637
>I'm open to blending the lines between knife and short sword
Well Condor makes a wakizashi now. They've had a tacwak copy for a while that they call the tactana, I have one and it's pretty nice and while it came sharp enough to cut grass it was fairly dull for a sword. You should also look into Cheness, some of their high end stuff is pretty nice but make sure to look up reviews on specific items whenever you're thinking about buying any given weapon, reputable companies sometimes have duds and meme companies sometimes have hidden gems.

>>34620691
YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR
I said up to $800 and stressed I didn't need to spend anywhere near that much.

>>34620704
I guess I'll start shopping around and search for random brands to check out. Thanks fampai.

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>>34620746
Try playing around with Knifecenter's "find it" feature for a general idea of what to look into.

>>34590736
need a machete with a serrated back, or something like that.

>>34620990
Why would you want to fuck up a perfectly good machete by serrating the back?

>>34618034
yeah id put it on there anon, hows the list coming?

>>34603088
How can you not have a Swiss army knife anywhere on the list? Also would you mind if I did a bushcraft/hunting knife list for poorfags?

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>>34618034
>Schrade sharp-finger
What does it offer that a Morakniv at a similar price doesn't?

>>34620223
>Ontario utilitac series
I'm not able to find one under $25, am I looking in the wrong places?

>>34621373
>How can you not have a Swiss army knife anywhere on the list?
The list you replied to has the Victorinox Classic under non-locking knives, the new list has the Victorinox Swiss Army Super Tinker under multitools. Any other recommendations? I'm trying to keep knives under $20 and multitools under $40.

>would you mind if I did a bushcraft/hunting knife list for poorfags?
What am I, the 4chan thought police? You do you.
>I'll probably steal some of your ideas, go ahead and steal mine.

>>34621188
List is coming along, the knife section is pretty well fleshed out. I might scrap the Amazon links because some items can be found cheaper on places like GearBest.com. The list is too long for one post, so here's the condensed version (minimal descriptions, will post full list if requested):

tl;dr: Opinel, F-91W, free pen

--KNIVES--

LOCKING KNIVES:

any locking Opinel (No6, No7, No8, No9, No10, No12)
>upwards from $9 shipped
>made in France

Buck 284
>$15 shipped
>United States

Sanrenmu 7010
>$15 Amazon/$7 GearBest
>China

NON-LOCKING KNIVES:

any non-locking Opinel (No5, No4, No3, No2)
>upwards from $9 shipped
>France

Svord Peasant series
>upwards from $13 shipped
>New Zealand

Victorinox Classic
>$14 shipped
>Switzerland

FIXED BLADE KNIVES:

Morakniv Companion
>$14 shipped
>Sweden

Other Morakniv options around this price point are also excellent.

--WATCHES--

Casio F-91W
>upwards from $6 shipped, usually closer to $10
>Japan

--FLASHLIGHTS--

Streamlight MicroStream
>$16 shipped
>China

Convoy S2+
>$11 shipped
>China

--MULTITOOLS--

Leatherman or Gerber, shop specific to lifestyle

Victorinox Swiss Army Super Tinker
>$40 shipped
>Switzerland

--MISCELLANEOUS--

pen and paper from bank/hotel lobby
>free

---end---

>>34621597
Schrade sharpfinger has a full tang, secondary bevel, leather sheath and different ergonomics. It's just another option, which happens to fall in the specified price range.

Ontario utilitac is ~$27 on amazon, so you got me. I thought it was worth a mention, just being a two dollars out of $25 price cap.

Cold steel has some decent budget stuff in the price range, from experience.

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>>34621890
>Schrade sharpfinger has a full tang, secondary bevel, leather sheath and different ergonomics. It's just another option, which happens to fall in the specified price range.
That's valid, I'll probably throw it on the list. My hesitation comes from reports of the new Chinese Schrade production not being up to par with the old American products, and from a general distrust of Chinese manufacturing.

>price cap
That's my bad. I didn't set a price cap initially, but as I started looking around I realized there was no reason for a poorfag to spend more than $20 (or more than $10, in the case of an Opinel from Amazon or a Sanrenmu 7010 from GearBest) on a knife. Current goal is to find quality knives, watches, and flashlights under $20 each and multitools under $40.

>Cold steel has some decent budget stuff in the price range, from experience.
Any model recommendations? I'll compare reviews and construction to what's currently on the list--I'm trying to keep each section down to three entries, if practical.

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>>34622160
>as I started looking around I realized there was no reason for a poorfag to spend more than $20 on a knife
>I'm trying to keep each section down to three entries, if practical.
This is also why I took the $26 Byrd Tern off of the list of non-locking knives once I found the Opinel No5-No2, Victorinox Classic, and Svord Peasant series. Sorry, >>34592105, it's a good suggestion for a cheap knife, but still too bourgeois for this list.

>>34622160
Yeah, schrade going Chinese was kinda strange, and I agree quality has slipped noticeably because of that. I hear that Taylor brands no longer owns schrade anymore and it's been sold to another company, which is further cutting corners on manufacturing quality. (PM101/ Chris tanner's Jessica X knife drama)

List is pretty cool idea. Maybe someone can sticky it!

Budget folders
Cold steel kudu, 4.25 inch blade folder for $10. I put a full height convex on mine.

Budget fixed blades
Cold steel bird and trout is acually a really nice neck knife, especially with the sheath.
Also the CS Pendleton lite, Canadian belt knife, roachbelly and Finn bear are solid value.

An aim of $20 is pretty crippling in my opinion, especially in terms of design compromises (lack of one hand opening, size, ergonomics, etc). So many more options open up at $30 or even $25, but I understand that's neither here nor there.

>>34621597
Ah shit dude, I didn't even see Victorinox listed there. I should start wearing my glasses more often.

>>34617765
You afraid of the sunlight?

Jesus

Ka-bars aren't bad knifes right? Just expensive compared to the competition?

>>34622651
They're not bad, but I hope they fixed that 90 degree blade-tang transition which formed a stress riser. Seen so many pictures of breakages at that that location. If you use it as a combat utility knife, as designed, you'll probably have no problems.

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China Clone

>>34621597
knife for poor people

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>>34622617
>schrade going Chinese
The timeline according to Wikipedia:
>July 2004, Imperial Schrade Corp. closes down shop in Ellenville, New York
>Schrade name purchased by Taylor Brands LLC
>July 2016, Smith and Wesson Holding Corporation announced that its Battenfeld Technologies division was to purchase Taylor Brands

>Maybe someone can sticky it!
It might fit in better on /diy/. As you pointed out, <$20 folders are lacking in features that make a good defensive folder (>implying folders are good defensive knives). Perhaps I should open a defensive knife category and call the old knife category "utilitarian knives"?

Making note of your Cold Steel suggestions for later review, I need to go to real life things for a while. The Kudu looks especially promising:

COLD STEEL LOCKING FOLDER CANDIDATES:

Cold Steel Kudu
>TWO (2) for $12.58 shipped
>4.25" German 4116 stainless steel blade
>made in ???
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KMGVLH8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_2UXCzbKCJBSHX

COLD STEEL FIXED BLADE CANDIDATES:

Cold Steel Bird and Trout
>$17.99 shipped
>2.25" Japanese Aus 8A stainless steel blade
>made in ???
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BSZDNK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_zCXCzbH6NN026

Cold Steel Pendleton Lite Hunter
>$15.99 shipped
>3.625" German 4116 stainless steel blade
>made in ???
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AALWF92/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_.EXCzb3H4QD2X

Cold Steel Canadian Belt Knife
>$11.99 shipped
>4.25" German 4116 stainless steel blade
>made in ???
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WADUIW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_lNXCzbPM930R9

Cold Steel Roach Belly
>$12.99 shipped
>4.25" German 4116 stainless steel blade
>made in ???
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AALWEI4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_EPXCzbJN20MC7

Cold Steel Finn Bear
>$11.27 shipped
>4" German 4116 stainless steel blade
>made in ???
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AALWDR6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_KHXCzb8QQEJ31

A consistent complaint I'm seeing across the fixed blade models is inconsistent sheath quality.

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>>34622619
No worries, /k/omrade, I miss shit all the time.

>>34622629
Not that anon, but I've recently started wearing wide brimmed hats, sunglasses, and long sleeves outside in the summer because sunlight is terrifying.

>>34622691
Poor people generally the ones who need knives, the rich can outsource menial tasks and physical security.

>>34622783
>Cold Steel Kudu
I have that knife its a pile of shit. Wasnt sharp plenty of side to side movement. Worst part is its too light so you cant even do ratchet knife tricks like 1 hand openings with it.
its a letter opener at best.

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>>34622685

Who's blood?

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>>34622827
Don’t worry, that’s not blood. It’s this weird, semen-like substance the vampires used to create a message to their dark lord.

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>>34622812
>Wasnt sharp
Factory edges are for sharpening. Did you fix it?

>plenty of side to side movement
Okay, that's no good.

>>34622912
>Factory edges are for sharpening. Did you fix it?
didnt bother didnt buy it cause wanted a kudu. bought it cause i wanted free shipping needed to add x amount to cart. the kudu was 5 bucks. if it was somewhat decent i would have put effort into sharpening it but its crap.
its good points
its large for a 5$ folder
its only 5$
the lock is mechanically neat
cons
the locking mech is a chore to fold
there isnt enough mass in the knife to do fun stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuF1Dd09Eeo
while the lock is acceptable the blade wiggles side to side making it fucking worthless

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>>34590736
What's the consensus on the 7Cr17MoV high carbon stainless steel used on current production Schrade Sharpfingers?

>>34622999
I like the design, but I wish they would use a better steel. I'd love to see it in 12C27 or something.

Rat 2 should definitely be in the budget list, also the Mikov fish knife for a small folder.

>>34623037
Also the tramontina machetes

I'm in the market for a cheap folder, I already have a couple Opinels and they're great, but I'm looking for something a little quicker to open just for fun.

I know I'm not going to get a super steel for $30, but will 8Cr13MoV, 8Cr14MoV, or 9Cr18MoV stand up fairly well? Is there a big difference between these steels? I'm used to dealing with O1, 3V and ELMAX, I don't know much about any other steel.

>>34623057
Maybe try these.

>14C28N
https://www.amazon.com/Kershaw-1760-Skyline-Knife-Stainless/dp/B001CZBDF8

>D2
>Avispa also comes in D2 if you want something larger.
http://www.bladehq.com/item--ESEE-Zancudo-Frame-Lock-Knife-OD--50098

>D2
http://www.bladehq.com/item--Ontario-RAT-Model-1-Liner-Lock--50520

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>>34623057
Sanrenmu 7010
>$6.79 shipped
>2.75" 8CR13MoV stainless steel blade
>pocket clip, frame lock, and thumb stud
>made in China
>http://www.gearbest.com/survival-emergency-gear/pp_185413.html
Comment from a different thread:
>Sanrenmu 710 does have a 8CR13MoV blade like the byrd. In fact, it was THE knife that convinced the EDC crowd that 8CR13MoV was an acceptable steel.
>>>/diy/1212688

Buck 284
>$14.16 shipped
>2.75" 420HC stainless steel blade
>thumb stud, mid lockback, pocket clip available for a couple dollars more on the Buck 286
>made in America
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EHYZM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_XVYBzbAM6Y3SV

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Maybe not related, but what is the best multitool i can get for 100 euroshekels or below?
I was thinking about a Leatherman, but i'm not sure if it's a meme or a legit investment

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>>34610469

you are showing a lot of insecurity there bud.

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poor fag here

>>34623261
I know a guy who swears by his skeletool, I believe that he actually uses it daily, but I can't give you a first hand opinion.

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Since we're talking about poorfag shit, this is on sale. Sanrenmu LAND 910 with black scales is also up for $14.

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Got this mora for going /out/ and carving shit

I didn't look after it and it rusted in the sheath

Can someone tell me how to look after a knife properly and also how I can get rid of the rust?

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>>34623471
Beauty of the Mora is it's cheap and you don't need to worry about "proper" cleaning.

Most of the rust looks like it's on the Scandi bevel, so just sharpening it would remove most of it.

As for the rest, of it, just some steel wool or better yet, like some 600 grit sand paper with some water.

Just try to oil it from time to time, most oils will do. Mineral Oil in particular is good because food friendly.

You may consider forcing a patina, basically controlled rust, it will be black not red. Just put some lemon or lime juice on the blade and let it sit for a day or two.