/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

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>>34578471
2 threads already exist anon

>>34578478
To late, didn't post the other one in the previous thread.

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Repost from last thread

A few weeks ago I went to a Marine Corps recruiter just to see what the Corps would be able to offer. We spoke about my goals, plans for the future, what I wanted to do while in the service, and things of that nature. Before I left, he had me choose 3 things that I felt were most important out of a list of 12 or so, and to write down what I thought each meant.

Would anyone be able to tell me if the Marine Corps genuinely offers these opportunities? I'm trying to plan long-term, and to use the military as a stepping stone for when I eventually move on to other things. I want to do Public Affairs and eventually move onto journalism.

>>34578502
Answered it last thread.

Like I said did you read the thread?
There are multiple posts explaining why the marines are a meme branch. There are also multiple posts saying how you need to already know what MOS/rate you want before going to see a recruiter otherwise they'll sell you a load of bullshit which is exactly what those pictures are. Cmon dude faggy pamphlets like that are how they sucker highschool kids into signing up and stick them in some bullshit MOS.

Again, what jobs are you even interested in?
What are these long term plans?
You don't even give us enough info.

>>34578502

Will the Corps offer those three things? Yes.

Will every other branch offer those three things in a better way? Yes.

>>34578439
>You don't consider that gay? I sure do. Whats cool about that man?

Because its nice and predictable. All you have to do is work hard in a familiar environment every day. I've been doing it for two years and if it wasn't for the fact that I get shit hours at my job and I dislike where I live I might just stay here. I don't really want a job where I'm constantly getting fucked on all sides having to learn new shit and constantly being put in uncomfortable situations (in terms of "Oh fuck I wasn't trained/prepared to do this"), in regards to the pay I'm not sure how much it varies from rate to rate but it didn't seem like a huge deal when I checked the site.

Basically this is what I'd want
While in Navy
>do job
>start D&D group on ship
>make videogames
>save money

Out of Navy
>have $240,000~ in the bank
>buy property and build small house 800-1,000 sq feet
>release video games
>retire and make video games/lets plays/stream at the age of 38-45

>>34578502
trust me when i say that the opportunities offered by the marine corps are laughable at best, if you have a path picked out then follow it into a different branch, the marines have nothing going for them, run far far away

>TFW when i sold the best years of my life to this shitshow

>>34578530
Base pay is the same, what I'm saying is youll advance slower in shitty rate. Go IT dude. There are crazy situations in setting up someone's LAN. Just go IT. Did you read that link I posted?

>>34578556
>>34578530
*NO crazy situations in IT I meant

>>34578556
>>34578563
I just finished reading it and it sounds like what I want. It seems like it will actually provide training that I want as well. If I could learn to set up a military grade LAN connection/server for storing my Chinese cartoons that would help me out of the Navy as well. Hopefully I can get IT, I would have figured it was tough as shit to get considering all the college dropout anime/video game neets that are probably in similar situations.

My friend said as an FC like everyone he knows plays fighting games and stuff and they're all former WoW players and shit. Its like the rates attract the same type of people.

I just got out of the Army as an 11B. Did I like it?

>>34578618
>Its like the rates attract the same type of people.
Who would've thought???

But youd be surprised the navy attracts all types. Plus youll be friends with all types of people and rates on a ship.

>>34578512
I literally said what I was interested in during the last sentence.

>>34578662
Dude I thought that was a joke. You wanna join the marines and do arts and crafts as well?

>>34578544
The hardest part about receiving advice from Marines is that they hate it now, and then in 20 years, they've got the EGA everywhere. Not saying you're like that, but their 180 when it comes to their beloved branch is really bizarre.

>>34578667
Marines dump most money of any branch into advertising

Seems like a good idea to follow the money, no?

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>>34578681
Navy Divers are very in shape. Dangerous job though but very cool and rewarding.
also
>milky

>>34578686
I just cant believe you want to join the military to pursue propaganda pushing. Then again I cant beielve anyone who isn't a SJW would ever want to be a (((journalist))) though.

>>34578681

Navy, hands down.

>>34578709
I like to write, man. Always been extremely proficient at it as well. I thought the entire point of choosing an MOS was to pick something you genuinely like to do.

>>34578731
It is I'm just busting your balls. IT already sounds like you know what you want to do. That doesn't really relate to your pictures though. How much leading and technical knowledge will you need writing base announcements?

>>34578753
Public Affairs also encompasses broadcasting.

>>34578775
And? When most people say technical skills they think of disarming bombs or hacking foreign servers. Not broadcasting corny base announcements.

>>34578784
I chose that one mainly because Intel is one of my "pick 3." How is that field?

>>34578809
Intel?
Its great in other branches, in the marines I'm sure its a joke.

>>34578848
Yeah I've heard it's much better in the Navy, as most things are. I'm conflicted, truthfully, I have NO Marines in my family so I have a chance to set the stage in that sense. My heart is telling me to become a Marine, but my head is telling me that the Navy is a smarter choice. I don't want to be one of those guys who wakes up at 50 and says "I wish I would have tried the Marines."

I drank the Kool-Aid.

>>34578671
it's because people love to jerk us off for the rest of our lives, whether you're decorated with combat experience or some fucking box kicker who never left the states, most people just see marine and think we're the coolest fucking thing

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>>34578709
>>34578717
I didn't know the Navy had a weight room. Is this true? I just wanna get fucken yoked

>>34578920
>I didn't know the Navy had a weight room
This a joke? Why wouldn't they?

>>34578894
Everyone in this thread says don't go marines for a reason. Also, its not like youre going infantry dude. You want to be a fucking journalist in the marines. Its not really the same thing.

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>>34578894
It's even harder when you have Presidents like Ronald Reagan and other highly decorated Army officers attesting to their prowess.

>>34578928
>Ronald Reagan
Is that supposed to be a good thing?

For anyone that has been a 68W who became a Physician assistant as a civvy, can you tell me the process that you did for that to happen? Were there certifications you did in the Army that helped you get the job, or did you go to a grad school program after you got out? If you went to a grad school program, did your undergrad degree have to be in one of the sciences?

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>>34578926
>>34578926
>>I didn't know the Navy had a weight room
>This a joke? Why wouldn't they?
Won't the weights roll on a ship as it moves in the water?

>>34578942
Best President since Teddy Roosevelt

>>34578894
I'm in a very similar situation actually. I think I drank the koolaid because even though I've made up my mind to go Navy I feel like I'm losing a better version of myself by not becoming a marine.

When I run in the morning I'm not singing Anchors Aweigh, I'm signing the Marine Hymn. I want to be a part of the heritage of sacrifice and service that's in the Marines. I know the Navy attracts people looking for a good job and training and skills but the Marines attract people that want to go into hell.

>>34578636
Did you?

>>34578945
>weights roll
How? have you never been in a gym before? Dumbbells are on a rack and plates are on pegs. Wtf how dyel are you?
>>34578952
wow that sad, youre 100% wrong. The guy who sold massive amounts of arms to terrorists is a great president?

>>>34578894
>Also, its not like youre going infantry dude. You want to be a fucking journalist in the marines. Its not really the same thing.

Is that better ot worse?

>>34578969
To be fair, that's been a long-running presidential tradition since before he was elected.

>>34578987
When people say "I'm a Marine" they think infantry.

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>>34578987
Obviously worse. When most people think marines they think devil dogs charging to take a hill or something. Youll be typing memos dude.

>>34578965
This is the meme mentality weve been talking about. Suffering on purpose for no reason. If you actually want to go into hell and get payed for it join the rangers or seals or SF.

>>34578997
Even still how in your right mind is he better than JFK. easily my favorite all time.

>>34579016
"You a photographer?"
"No, I'm a Combat Correspondent."

>>34579025
I like JFK as well. He was extremely respectable.

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>>34579029

>>34578965
Esprit De Corps doesn't really seem to exist as a thing outside Marine Corps as a whole, and specific units in other branches.

Best way I've heard it is this way. If you wanna be a stronger more Chad version of You, Marine Corps works.
If you wanna stay basically as you, but with more career options and easy jobs, other branches will do fine to get in and out.

Cool kids vs Nerds pretty much, and almost everyone on 4chan is a nerd so the bias is natural but not wrong.

>>34578945
that must be crazy to be lifting weights but the ship is moving at the same time

>>34579044
Motherfucker have you never seen Full Metal Jacket?

>>34579060
Ofc, its easily the most overrated Vietnam movie.

>>34579054
This si true, When id be DB benching based on how the ship was rolling itd be easier or harder.

>>34579068
If you say Apocalypse Now is the best Vietnam war flick then I swear to God you are absolutely correct.

Why do people say the Marines don't have good jobs when the jobs aren't much different from any other branch?

>>34579084
Honestly I think platoon is just as good and Deer hunter is right there as well. Born on the 4th of July is the saddest imo.

>>34579051
I've heard the submariners in the Navy seem to have it though.

>>34578636
Lol these posts have finally reached their final form.

>Hurr I DEPed for XXX MOS, how fucked am I
>Hurr I got to Ft Leornardwood for basic, how bad did I fuck up?
>Hurr I just got out, did I like it?

What's the benefit of joining the National Guard over the Army Reserve and vice versa?

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>>34578944

I'm not a PA yet but I'm further along this path than you are presumably judging by your questions so I'll give you a little input. I bet you might the individual making failed 68W threads as well.

>Were there certifications you did in the Army that helped you get the job, or did you go to a grad school program after you got out?

Your Army certs mean shit in the real world. You're not even qualified to get an EMT job once you're a civ. Going to a grad school program out of the Army is easier than getting into the Army's program - I'll say that much.

>If you went to a grad school program, did your undergrad degree have to be in one of the sciences?

It doesn't HAVE to be, but an undergrad in the sciences will help you get all the prerequisites out of the way plus it looks better than having any other type of degree. The better question is what situation are you in or looking to be in to where you are applying to a grad school without a science undergrad degree?

Should I go talk to an Airforce recruiter if I've already had an army recruiter send the paperwork to MEPs? Army won't let me go to MEPs until I lose three pounds.

>>34579235
Question from another anon. I'm getting a 68w with an Opt 40. Will SOCM help my chances at becoming a PA as a civilian?

>>34579235
>The better question is what situation are you in or looking to be in to where you are applying to a grad school without a science undergrad degree?
I've just always wanted to be a medic in the Army, even though I don't have much of an aspiration to do anything in the medical field as a civilian. However, I saw some things online about 68W's becoming PA's, so I figured it would be smart to at least look into the process of becoming one if I enjoyed being a whiskey.

On a side note, the Army website was calling 68W the "healthcare specialist" for a long time, but now that it's a job in demand it's listed as "combat medic specialist". Is this just a coincidence, or is it a cheap recruiting tactic?

>>34579259
Yes, but I couldn't say to what degree really. In the very least it will pad your resume and make you stand out that much more even if it is only a little bit. Remember, the PA profession was born from Army medics returning to civilian life.

>>34579298

>I've just always wanted to be a medic in the Army, even though I don't have much of an aspiration to do anything in the medical field as a civilian. However, I saw some things online about 68W's becoming PA's, so I figured it would be smart to at least look into the process of becoming one if I enjoyed being a whiskey.

Well, enjoy being a whiskey and look into it more. Others will disagree, for varying arbitrary reasons, but whiskeys are essentially very similar to civilian paramedics. Do you have any idea what your actual unit assignment will be? There's hospital roles, line medics, ambulance crew, etc. Personally I like emergency medicine so that's what I want my specialization to be in the future once I'm a PA.

>Is this just a coincidence, or is it a cheap recruiting tactic?

Its a cheap tactic, keep in mind what I said though - its essentially quick and fast paramedic training regardless of the name.

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Any military machinists here? MR, 91E, or 2A7X1 I believe. Civilian CNC operator interested in what the job is like, if you enjoy it, how far into the field the military goes, etc.

>>34579396
>Do you have any idea what your actual unit assignment will be?
Nope, not yet. I'm finishing up my degree first before I enlist. I've been doing my research on 68W for awhile now, and I don't like the idea of not being assigned to work as a combat medic, but working in an aid station or in the hospital doesn't sound too bad to me either. I think I'd enjoy the experience of it.

>>34579444
nice trips fag.

You'll get more out of aid station and hospital work, even if being a line medic sounds infinitely cooler. Not sure how soon you have until your degree is done, but consider getting EMT certified and possibly picking up a job. At the shortest it takes 5-7 weeks to get certified, programs from private tech schools cost like a grand, and ambulance companies are always hiring. Plus you'll get to skip some AIT training possibly with your NREMT cert or you'll at least have a leg up on the other people you're training with and most book work will be a refresher.

>>34579111
that's what I heard too
I've also heard that certain rates (a-gang in particular) have it

Would my acne scars/keloid scars on my back, chest, and arms dq me at meps? I don't really breakout anymore but there is significant visible bumps/scars.

>>34579528
I appreciate the info. Good luck on your PA certs

>>34579321
Nice.

I'm getting the Opt 40 so I can ensure I'll be on the line. My dream is in an Emergency Room as a PA, so hopefully that will help me.

Good luck though man, that's awesome. Please check back into the thread every once in a while to update on your progress, I have vested interest

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There's just something about the Navy enlisted dress blues that I don't like. I get that it has a very deep heritage and it extremely recognizable, it just seems as though it's... extremely goofy. Maybe it's the hat. Obviously I don't mean any disrespect to the sailors here. Officers definitely seem to have gotten the better end of the stick.

>>34578681

coast guard ME, literally work out, go to range, do some tactics training, train some people, work out, and didd i mention they have 4-6 hour gym time to start off the workday

>>34579235
What's the process like getting accepted to a grad program? Do you need to take the MCAT or any other test like that?

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>>34578945

injuries are common, also treadmills on small boats are funny as hell to watch

>>34579668

it depends on how severe, if its not a current thing, then you are probably fine, just a bunsh of scaring

>>34578945

usually they have weight racks, but sometimes idiots try doing hardcore crossfit in bad seas, gotta get those gains i guess

>>34579686
>>34579707

Good luck to you whiskeys as well. I wish you nothing but success.

>>34579797

Well this is easily google-able information and it strays a little bit too far from the purpose of the thread but generally PA schools like the GRE, MCAT, or require nothing. Besides that you need to knock out the prerequisites, have an undergrad degree that is preferably related to health science, biology, etc., and have working/volunteer hours in the healthcare field. Its not easy to become a PA, but it doesn't require as much time and effort as becoming an MD and is still very rewarding.

Hey guys, I had a $40k signing bonus for an MOS I really wanted to do in the Army, that I spent countless amounts of time doing research on. I even played my cards right, and am in line for an OCS spot before I even enlist.

But I just enlisted into the Marines because the Marines recruiter called me a pussy. How fucked am I?

>>34578618
>military grade LAN connection/server for storing my Chinese cartoons
I hope you enjoy buffering.

>>34579999
quads confirm you are 2nd Lt. FUCKED.

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Is it more important to choose a job you want to do first and then find a branch second?

Do different branches which have the same jobs function very differently, or are they more or less the same with a different coat of paint?

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>>34579726
If you have a nice bod in the Navy, you can wear any uniform you want ;)

>>34580128
Maybe it sounds extremely superficial, but I would like to one day get married in my dress uniform, and the Crackerjack get-up just doesn't seem very formal.

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>>34579726
I think it could be because the collar makes shoulders look a little slanted

>>34580161
What it reminds me of is those track suits that the cast of The Sopranos wear.

Why haven't you joined the ADF ausfags?

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Why do so many people claim to hate their military service while they're still in, but after they get out, they talk about how fantastic it was?

whats better: america rangers or texas rangers?

>>34578478
Please post moar of these. What branch you in?

>>34578952
reeeee JFK was great faggot

I participated in a Navy Seal hate thread on /pol/, do they know? does it bar me from service?

>>34581336
A navy seal hate thread on /pol/? What the hell is that and for what reason does it exist?

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>>34581426
>why is there shitposting on /pol/?
you seriously asked that.

>>34581462
Well yeah but it just seems so... out of place, is all.

>>34580141
i feel like you have bigger problems to worry about if youre considering getting married in your blues

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What do you guys think of 12B?

>>34581637
>tfw to smart too be a rifleman

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I think i want to join the marines, I'm 6'1 and 260 I know I'm going to need to work out so is there a good regiment i can start on i have some muscle I work physical job so that helps.

Hey guys. Where's a good place to jack off on a ship?

>>34578681
Who is this taint saint?

>>34582196
In your rack, mostly, assuming you have a curtain and are not stuck in the torpedo room or some other amistad-like berthing configuration. I may or may not have done it in the engineroom, but that is not advisable. Coners do it in the fanroom, iirc.

So I wanted to go into the Army with an option 40 contract, figured if I'm getting deployed I'd do it with the best training and whatnot, but the only contracts available were 92g (cook) and 91f (small arms repairmen). I took 91f because finger fucking guns and being a ranger seemed pretty good, but now I'm reading a lot of stuff online saying I'm gonna be a glorified armorer. Was thinking that I would be getting deployed and going on actual missions, not just sitting in the armory wondering why I went to rasp. Did I fuck it up?

>>34582442
rachel holder

>>34582504
Motherfucker, why in the everlasting fuck would you sign up for an MOS that you've done absolutely no research on?

>>34579999
fake? i was just looking over the bonuses and i think i saw one MOS with 40k
>>34580420
>how does grass is always greener work
>>34581637
might as well go 1371 if you want to do dangerous shit, go all in and join the warrior cult anon

>>34582590
I wanted to leave asap and be a ranger, and didn't want to be a cook. When I looked into it 91f seemed alright I just had been expecting to do actual ranger stuff, I had read that most people in regiment were pogs so I figured it would be fine.

>>34582666
>so impatient he couldn't wait a few weeks for a better mos
you deserve it, honestly. enjoy repair.

>tfw fell for the Marine meme

Who here 19k? What's OSUT like for tankers?

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Alright /k/, here's the deal
>overweight (working on it)
>beyond dead end job
>cancerous family

Would joining the army / muhreens to make money and "run away from home" be worth it, or am I just pissing up a rope? I love this country and all, but I feel like my motivation is a tad selfish. What say you?

>>34583362
You sound perfect for the military

>>34583362
You wouldn't be the first person to join for those reasons, and you won't be the last. Just do your job to the best of your ability, and you'll be alright.

Should I go 19D or SW

>>34583362
>>overweight (working on it)
keep working on it
>>beyond dead end job
>>cancerous family
so many people join for these reasons

I'm going to MEPS next week for the Air Force to take the ASVAB and the medical test. I want to take the DLAB and the EDPT too, but my recruiter told me I have to be in the DEP to take the specialty tests. He said it's the Tampa MEPS policy to run it like that.

Is that true or is he bullshitting me?

Former U.S. Army 35SM7 here.
You're doing gods work.

If im deployed do I get internet access?
How limited is it?
Denmark btw.

Can I download all my waifus and enjoy them in the downtime?

>>34583362
Joining to get away from home and a good career is anything but selfish.

The military is going to take care of you, but they'll also use you.

A lot of veterans are bad about talking up their military service, mostly because it's the thing that (in their minds) sets them apart from everyone else leading an average life.

Also your mind tends to forget the bad and play up the good, so you remember things being better than they were.

Also a lot of service-members don't really realize how good they have it. Graduating high school and making $800 every two weeks (with room + board) is not normal today. Combine that with the pension + promotion potential, and you have quite the deal.

How different are Marines and Soldiers with how they perform?

I'm a bit turned off from the Army, despite the better quality of equipment and based, because of all the transgender shit.

>>34583980
IDK about you euroshoots but at least for us it's standard to load up a hard drive with tons of movies/games/porn/music.

>>34584149
>transgender shit
>a little incident must mean army wide
>never mind the fact the top brass from each branch has sent a letter to Mattis asking him to put the trans shit on a 6 month ""hold""

Stop falling for the memes

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>>34578471
I'm going to graduate college in about a year, and I want to go to law school at some point. The JAG program sounds nice, but I want to do military service before law school. What are the options available for officers who want Uncle Sam to pay for their postgraduate programs as much as possible?

I know I could get a commission in pretty much any branch I want to, thanks to my top grades and strong extracurricular leadership record. Which is the best choice?

>>34584226
best choice? direct commission into the jag corps. but good luck getting a slot.

>>34584385
Which branch? They all have different JAG programs.

Am I crazy for wanting to serve first and use GI Bill money to pay for school afterward? I don't feel like I have the discipline necessary to succeed in law school right now, I want it beaten into me through work that will make me appreciate sitting at a desk and studying after it's over.

t. poor and burnt the fuck out on schooling right now

Is it a meme that army drill sergeants are soft? Or do they do that shit you see all the marine DI's do with all the screaming and swarming.

Why do people even go with ANY combat MOS anymore? They do literally nothing but clean toilets all day, and there won't be a war anytime soon

>>34584795
>there won't be a war anytime soon
oh you sweet, summer child

>>34584795
There might be, but it's not going to be like the wars of past where 2 pretty much equal forces go at it. Those days are gone. The big players are too big now, and it would be suicide for both of them.

>>34584834
America is militarily stronger than any other country on the planet, and it isn't even close. The problem comes from the prevalence of nukes.

>>34584856
You're gunna tell me boots on the ground against Russia or China wouldn't be a shitshow for both countries soldiers?

I take the ASVAB soon and have been studying using the Kaplan book, mostly for Math, Science and the Technical subjects. My practice scores in that are kind of discouraging (6-10 wrong on average out of 30), but I just took the practice test from the website that used to get posted here and got an 80 (and ran out of time with three left because my girlfriend wouldn't shut up). I guess my question is should I be worried?

>>34585237
Study away from your girlfriend.

>>34585250
What's a "good" number to be getting wrong per section?

>>34585292
0. Not even kidding. Seriously aim for 0. Study hard and do the best you can possibly get. Don't settle for good enough because this test will determine what's available to you. Also, don't study near your fucking gf.

>>34585237
you will do fine, take the asvab soon if its your first time because you can still retake it in 30 days. Its a good way to see where you are at.

but studying math and vocab should get you a 60+ score easily , work on answering nearly every math and vocab question correctly and that will put you in the 80+ percentile

>>34584902
>implying the United States wouldn't be able to gain air and sea superiority in either country

>>34578681
Could be one on those funeral guys
You have to lift, the only thing that sucks is that you put dead guys in the ground

>>34585570
Don't forget that MOS is objectively the most honorable MOS. They're the only POGs that deserve as much praise as the infantry guys.

>>34585489
They sure would. But look at ww2 in the pacific. We had the better navy, and air support, and weapons, and still took a decent beating on those islands like Okinawa, iwo, and Peleliu. Granted not as bad as the japs, but it was still a shitshow.

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How can I him to leave me alone he literally won't stop after I told him I'm not interested

>>34585801
America wasn't even remotely close to being the military power in the 40's that it is today. America had one of the stronger military's in the world, but it wasn't the strongest. Let alone the strongest by an unbelievably wide margin.

>>34585818
Ignore him, you peasant. It's not hard. Stop acting like a fucking woman.

>>34584795
Because people coming back from Kuwait are hyping up their experience, so dumbdumbs still think anybody other than SOF is doing body hitting the floor, roll-deep combat missions.

Seriously, every time you bring up the fact that 2001-2010 large scalecombat is not happening anymore you get people citing recent casualties without realizing they are all Ranger, SF, and SEALs getting killed in combat.

i have been thinking of finishing college and trying the officer course as intelligence officer,what are the benefits of the intel MOS after you step out of military?i know that i need to study a lot to get the tests scores so i don't end up in the hugos mos.
navy or army for intel?

>>34578502
They want to see where you think you are weak. Picking those tell them what you want to improve on

>>34585818
>could of
Definitely a marine

>>34585818
What was he referring to, that you could've gotten for free?

>>34578502
I would like to help here, but I just cannot take someone seriously that wishes to join the military as a journalist. I believe every single pubic affairs person I associated with was just as cancerous as the mainstream media puppets on TV.

>>34586088
laser eye surgery

>>34586088
A life of alcoholism

>>34586124
never gonna happen in any branch

>>34586128
roger that

>>34586137
yeah i already got it, he was asking about it

>>34586137
My coworker just got PRK last month.

>>34586128
$11.49 bottles of "military special" vodka make your dream into a reality.

>>34586226
>>34586204
>>34586137
and yeah, he got it himself in the service for free, which is why he was telling me

>>34586118
>every /meg/ is "DO SOMETHING YOU LOVE!"
>okay
>"No that's ridiculous I can't help you"

>>34586404
Deep down we're all shilling for what we really believe in, and we don't have to meet a quota desgnated by USAREC.

>>34583362
>but I feel like my motivation is a tad selfish
99% of people join for those reasons not "mu patriotism"

>>34586421
I can totally see why not everyone would like it. I'm a bit more realistic in choosing a field that I want to become proficient at so that I can make a career out of later (I already have an AA).

>>34586486
So what did he tell you about pubic affairs?

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tfw I want to be a tanker but I'm 6' 3" with very modest measurements.

>>34585818
It's surprisingly diverse. A lot of the field work is heavily dependent upon when a war breaks out, meaning you have higher than average chances of being deployed (to be honest, you should expect at least one deployment in the Army and Marines) but aside from that it's very much like a 7-4.

>>34586583
even if you were just within the height requirement, i don't think it would be a great experience for a taller anon.

How easy is it to switch from 19D to something else? Will they not let you leave 19D because it's undermanned?
How easy is it switch branches too?

Want to do 19D for 4 years and if it's garbage switch to something more technical.

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>>34586629
I'm thinking Royal Artillery or maybe Royal Engineers instead. Alas, I wish I could be a tanker.

>>34586558
>pubic affairs
illegal according to the UCMJ

>>34578471

So, uh...

What does 35M mos actually do?

It's not spoopy torture shit, is it?

>>34587135
That is where the CIA gets like 94% of its recruits silly.

>>34578471
Best branch to join after medical school/ before residency?

Anyone have any particularly awesome experiences with army docs, particularly trauma surgeons, they'd care to share?

What's the cushiest doc jobs you've seen? How about the least cushy?

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>>34579410
bumping for this

>>34587227

There are some specialties where joining the military is a decent idea. Surgeon is not one of them.

What they pay you in terms of education and compensation is not too bad if you're in something like family practice, but it's pretty sucky for a surgeon.

>>34587227
my pops was a flight surgeon in the af, i think that or the navy is probably the best as far as facilities and opportunities go in the medical world. worked with a lot of cool army docs tho.

>>34586731
>cav scout
it's literally meme: the mos

>>34587892
Why

>>34587921
because of
>muh stetson
>muh just like infantry
they think they're special and invaluable when they're not. 11Bs get trained in bradleys all the time.

>>34587921
not the last poster you replied to, but holy shit the question is why the fuck are you so afraid of 11b? if you go 19d, you'll always be living on the coattails of the infantry, constantly trying to explain to girls that you're basically the same thing as infantry.

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Prorec Y NA

>>34587971

Protip: Girls think everyone in every branch is infantry.

>>34587971
Aren't they basically infantry though?

>>34588053
Only because there is nothing for them to do in an occupation. If an actual conflict, -- big or small -- breaks out against an actual country, 19D won't just be a discount 11b

What can I do with my life after spending 4 years as a fusion analyst for the AF?

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>>34588163

hello, welcome to subway?

>>34588163
do another 4 or 16?

>>34588208
Don't you dare to compare subway and publix. Pub subs are god tier and the store in general is as well. No niggers allowed.

>>34588163

kidding about the sandwich, see if you have any contractor qualifications (constellis group)

https://recruiting.adp.com/srccar/public/RTI.home?c=1153651&d=ExternalCareerSite

do I need factory schools if i have been depot level for the applicable weapon systems (for contractor jobs)?

Why are marine recruiters such cunts.
I finished MEPS 2 weeks ago and my recruiter always comes up with some excuse to not give me my line scores.

>yeah, you did great! You qualify for basically everything.
>the worst you did was on MM, where you got a 95. Everything else is a 100 or above!

But when I ask to get them

>when you come in next time I'll give them to you
>oh sorry buddy it's late maybe next time
>next time
>hey buddy! I gotta run! Next time?
>next time
>about my li-
>WHOOPS I GOTTA GO IT'S LATE
>last time there
>OH MY PRINTER ISN'T WORKING. MAYBE NEXT TIME?

Is this fuck hiding something from me? Just fucking give them to me God damn it.

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>Basic ship day fast approaching
>Can't shake the thought of "no more of this for a while" whenever doing something I enjoy
>Can't even enjoy vidya anymore

JUST GET IT OVER WITH

>>34588587
drink> eat >sleep>pt>repeat

>>34588587

it goes by fast, just remember its basically nofap for a few months

>>34588664
bullshit

>>34588817
>>34588664
the no fap part- mop closet works just fine

>>34588490

no idea but it sure sounds like it

>>34588587

it'll be good for you anon, look on it as a chance to put aside some bad habits. try to take something away and not just relapse into your old behavior

>>34584149
Are you fucking serious

Do you actually think there's an epidemic of transsexuals in the army?

>>34589066
Whats it like now that homos can out themselves?

>>34589097
Nothing, they're still less than 1% of the population, you just can't expect to make jokes about someone being gay just like you can't expect to make jokes calling someone a nigger or anything else like that.

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Reminder:

>No branch is a 'bad' idea. Some are better than others, but all offer something unique
>Your job is more important than which branch you join
>Pick a job that you can see yourself doing for 4+ years
>Do not go infantry unless there's an active conflict
>10+ year veterans are typically bad people to ask for advice, because they will look back on their service with rose colored glasses
>Don't be a fucking bitch. Put out and suck up the bullshit

Thank you for your time and have a wonderful thread.

>>34587191

shieeet...

So if I'm really good at it, there's a good chance they may be looking to recruit.

>>34589260
thanks reminder anon
keep up the good work

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Does anyone have experience with Air Force Special Missions Aviation?
Is it an exciting and fulfilling career?
Or is it maintainers who wannabe spec ops?

Being an MP kinda wore out my knees so I'm unsure if I could make it into TACP and I'm looking at SMA as a possible alternative.

>>34589260
Fuck you, I want to go infantry

>>34589260
>Do not go infantry unless there's an active conflict
A thousand times this

>>34589350
You won't be getting any until NK goes hot. Spoiler: it won't.

>>34589333
>SMA as a possible alternative
you'll have a great job in aircraft maintenance and power plant once your out

Is it true that you don't sleep for the first three days of USMC bootcamp?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnVW96xvFFg

>>34589449
Fug, wrong clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAijaMl-aqY

>>34589449
Yes. It is the first means of indoctrination: you are learning to follow basic orders under sleep deprivation.

If there is anything that the Marine Corps excels at, it is their boot camp.

>>34589422
So what. Why would I join the military for a desk job I could get anywhere else?

>>34589493
Some people I spoke to loved it. Some hated it. You might be one of the guys who love it.

What branch?

>>34587191
Wait a minute. Are you saying that it's possible for me to be a spy or a spy killer by going this route?

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Guys I just failed out of EOD school and am waiting on a reclass. Apparently 91B seems to be where it's headed. Pretty disappointing, however I have some questions. Since I already have a Bachelors degree, if after my AIT and I get to my first duty station, can I put in a request to be able to do green to gold? If I'm tracking right, I would go to school get my masters and be in the rotc program. After completion be direct commission? I'm RA. The other option is OCS but this way seems better. Thanks

>>34589553
that seems to be the most logical option short of somehow getting out of 91b. my fuck what a terrible destiny, you should try harder to fix it.

>>34589505
Memerines
Yes, I probably should have went army, but I already signed the contract. It's too late for me

>>34589585
I am beyond upset about it but it's out of my hands. I just don't know if that's correct, that I complete my AIT get to my duty station and just talk to the commander about going to school for my masters and joining rotc. Get my masters and then direct commission, is that how it works?

>>34589553
>>34589665
What's EOD school like and why is it so difficult?

Someone help me out. I was originally going to join the marines, but I think I've mostly changed my mind to join the Army instead. Of course the reasons I was motivated about joining the Marines still remain somewhat. You know the "First to fight", more than a run of the mill soldier, more motivated and dedicated than the norm, you know all the memes. Of course these threads among other research explained what's that actually worth. That Army and Marine counterparts are ultimately doing the same shit. Only key differences being you're a "muhreen", you have a badass uniform and the title, your life sucks a helluva lot more, and as a Marine I heard you'll probably see less combat. I decided earning the title wasn't more important than what I wanted to do and experience in the military. Also I would like to stay in the military, not just do my 4 years and never look back. And the reenlistment rates are exceptionally low on the Marines for some particular reason.

Anyway. Now that I've told my life story, is there a way in the Army to fulfill those desires that made me motivated to be a Marine over an Army soldier in the first place? I think my choices are down to 11B and 19D. 11B is good, but it sort of bothers me that they're a bit "lowest common denominator". 19D caught my eye because they have a lot of history and motivation, and they seem to be a step above your basic grunt. But since they're Scouts, from my understanding they don't engage the enemy and tend to avoid combat, even retreating from it where combat elements take over.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

>>34589684
I really don't want to talk about it. It's hard. 85% fail rate for phase 1. Don't do it.

>>34589703
Wasn't planning on it, but that sounds tough. Good luck anon

>>34589701
OP here continuing, getting Airborne training has crossed my mind. But I'm not sure if I'm up to being a Ranger until I've already done Basic. I need to see if I'm up to challenges 1 and 2, before I look at 4, you know?

So if I had an army recruiter send off paperwork to MEPS but haven't actually gone yet and decided I actually want to go Air Force how should I let him know?

>>34589749
Just do 19D and stop posting. Ranger school is different from RASP, airborne is overhyped. Just go talk to a competent recruiter._

>tfw I'm a hardcore baseball fan
>tfw I'm autistic as shit, and have some doubts about enlisting because I'd miss games for basic training, but don't want to go to basic in the winter time
lol, guess I'm missing some games. I didn't realize how autistic I am until I saw how much something minor could effect me.

>>34589493

90 % of people who says this will never have a desk job as good as the military.

They delude themselves into thinking "yeah man i could totally grab a 80k desk job if i wanted to but i just love innawoods so much". In reality, they're mouthbreathing retards who would be working at Wendys if they didn't sign up.

>>34589701
>And the reenlistment rates are exceptionally low on the Marines for some particular reason.
you've already figured out why, it fucking sucks

>>34589749
You can get airborne training separate from ranger. If I were you id go 11b and get airborne, I forget the option number. Then when youre comfortable go ranger or SF.

>>34589260
>>No branch is a 'bad' idea. Some are better than others, but all offer something unique
>Being a janitor isn't a bad idea, it offers something unique.

>>34589784
The sooner the better.

>>34589701
"First to fight" is largely historical in its influence and is seldom true. These days, with the multitude of divisions that the Army has, they're often times better suited for a lot more roles. Especially since the Marines' claim to fame is amphibious assaults, and we haven't done those since Vietnam.

I'm a Marine, I have friends in the Army (one who is a Ranger and is currently deployed) and we have a very mutual respect for one another. They joined the Army to continue the family tradition, I joined the Marines to break from tradition.

As for Airborne, the only thing I can tell you is that combat drops are rare. They're sort of the same way as Marines are: they boast their heritage of WW2 like the Marines do about WW1 and Iwo Jima.

>>34588261
Is there anything more to the recruiting process besides filling out an application? Do contracting companies go actively looking from candidates? How much is word of mouth?

>>34589808
Military desk jobs barely amount to shit out of the military

>>34589784
all you have to deal with is a possibly annoyed recruiter.

have you taken the ASVAB yet? if you did and scored well ( 70+ ) then you should definitely go for greener pastures if the Army isn't what you want from the get go.

let him know asap, message or call let him know you are done with army and air force is the way youre going now. From what ive seen what pisses off most recruiters is wishy washy half ass retards who cant make decisions for themselves.

>>34579241
Not going to hurt anything
But they're going to say the same thing

>>34589809
>Being a janitor isn't a bad idea, it offers something unique.
Some people can see the forest from the trees. Some can not. Those who can't typically have a far worse time in the military than those who are smart enough to see around the bullshit and take it on the chin.

>>34589935
I got a 95 on the ASVAB, will the Air Force be able to just pull up the paperwork the Army filled out?

>>34589879

The point I was making was that people saying "I could just get that job on the outside" probably couldn't. Desk jobs segue pretty well to civilian life though, if you aren't a total retard.

t. Turned 4 years in the military into a comfy six-figure civilian gig.

>>34589975
I can attest to this as well. Don't be a retard, don't settle, and get yourself educated.

>>34589857
>They're sort of the same way as Marines are: they boast their heritage of WW2 like the Marines do about WW1 and Iwo Jima.

Even if it's just historical, it might still be a title worth having. I sort of want that pride and self worth. Like I said these were things I valued and would have loved to be proud of and have on my identity. But I knew there were more important things to consider when making a decision about a career.

>>34589969
everything the military does before you actually go to be trained with a specific branch is shared by all the branches.

Yes all the info the Army has is available to them and others. so all you have to do is get in touch with a recruiter.

>>34589968
This post makes absolutely no sense and youre missing my point entirely.

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I'm torn between marine 0300 and army 11x. The reasoning;
>muhreens
Pride
Pride
I would have earned the title
Pride
I'd be in the same league as all those hard chargers that went into the pacific.

>army
Still pride
Newer stuff
Nicer stuff

I feel like they fact that the marines has more suck makes it all the better. More sense of accomplishment and knowing I beat the suck.

>>34590026
I was in a similar boat, until I've pretty much switched to Army, trying to figure out how to bring that same pride out of it.

>Newer and nicer stuff

Is tacticool gear really that important to you over quality of life and what you're actually doing?

>>34589701
this all seems sound except
>as a Marine I heard you'll probably see less combat
is that accurate? i mean its USMC in Syria, its USMC going back to the worst parts of Afghanistan, it was USMC as the tip of the spear in Iraq. Assuming things are settling in for a geopolitical 3-side game of 3d chess with no major blow ups aren't the marines more likely to get sent to whatever little shit we decide to stick our nose in (Yemen? more stuff on Syria/Iraq border, etc) not an expert but that's what i had figured. part of what makes the USMC "suck" i thought was they get deployed when things are only going to be done halfass, halfass base, halfass logistical support etc. seems like barring more Russian "non-army" bullshit ala Crimea or an invasion of NK (lol never) the chances of a full blown army deployment is lower than USMC no?

>>34590021
Your post insinuated that some branches are less valuable than others and that you make a mistake by choosing one over the other. To you, it might be true. I'm arguing that no branch is a mistake because each has something of value.

>>34590048
I'm not trying to bash the army by any means. For example, the big red one has pride galore.

By newer stuff, I mean things that are more up to date, and not so banged up like the rifles and other equipment.

>>34590026

Your daily reminder that "Marine" is not a title worth being proud of. It's literally harder to get through High School than it is to get through boot camp.

You won't realize until you actually get through that even other Marines will think you're retarded for being proud of passing a course that's designed for fat civilians and nearly impossible to fail.

There are things worth being proud of that you can do in the military, simply getting through the bare bones initial training is not one of them.

>>34590074
I think that's just an army meme. In the Marines you should be getting everything you need to do to do the mission, and it shouldn't be broken or unusable. I think the combat elements have already filtered out most of the m16s. I don't there are many meaningful examples, especially for 0300s.

>>34590067

You're wrong about pretty much everything here.

>Army was in Syria long before Marines.

>Army was in Afghanistan before Marines, and has remained there long after the Marines left.

>Army was first into Iraq and did most of the fighting there.

>>34590118
Exactly this, don't want to buy into memes.

>>34590101
This. That doesn't necessarily mean "don't do it," but boot camp IS designed to be passed. Your Drill Instructors are there to get you off the recruit depot as fast as possible.

You'll be very proud at the end of boot camp because it will seem like such a tremendous foe you've overcome and then you'll be extremely proud at the end of your 4 years when you become a private citizen again.

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>>34590069
Right, again, being a shit shoveler at a circus is a unique experience. I hope you have fun doing it.
I feel like youre coping so hard. I mean youre right its all necessary but I'm of the mindset just don't chose a shitty job and a shitty branch and you wont have to cope every night while thinking about suicide. Guessing you either never actually served or youre in the AF.

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>>34590146
>I feel like youre coping so hard.
Having a positive outlook on life is coping?

>>34589333
Current sma here on gunships
Ask away man

>>34590146
Why don't you understand the difference between a shitty job regardless of the branch? There are good jobs in every branch.

>>34589449
Just remember that fat chicks and pathetic dudes make it every day
Literally the lowest form of training don't fret

>>34589999
Just something to consider.
What branch and specific jobs will get you stationed at a base you like?
Me, I say fuck off to USAF and Army purely because I hate inland America, and closer to coast the better.
I'd take a rough job in a place I enjoy living over a good job in a place where there's nothing to do but my job.

OK, I've already posted in this thread and there's a lot of infantry talk in this thread but hear me out.

Is going Infantry then using the GI bill a good move to do? Nothing but infantry interests me but I know I won't gain any skills from it. Is this a bad idea?

>>34590141
It's still the hardest out of the 4. Even if that just means "hardest high school." You definitely will have something of pride over 95% of humanity, who haven't done anything as hard as what you have done.

>>34589869
It's pretty much like any other industry. If you have friends and colleagues who are working/going to work in .gov contracting and let them know you're looking for something, they'll pass your contact info along to recruiters when they see a good opportunity for you. LinkedIn is also a very common site for any type of recruiter (including military contractors) to check for candidates. I'm not one myself but I'm assuming there are other sites where former military personnel list their specific qualifications (combat, intel, clearances, etc) and recruiters check those places too. Protip: word of mouth is big in any industry, but government is even more nepotistic and exclusive than normal corporations. Having inside contacts is the best bet to getting any kind of government job; getting your foot in the door is generally the hardest part

>>34590165
I'm pretty sure that's the actual definition of coping.

>>34590190
Why don't you understand its a 2 variable equation. Avoid shitty jobs and avoid shitty branches. Leave this thinking thing to the professionals, you don't seem to have the hang of it yet.

>>34590216
No, do what you want dude. If your heart is set on it then do it. You can always re-invent yourself with the gi bill once youre out.

>>34590206
I don't know about Air Force, but Army seem to have all kinds of places all over the world, probably more options than say the Marines. You're correct that the job within the branch will steer you towards certain bases.

Either way location hasn't been as much of a factor. To me there is within the US, outside the US, and in the shit like the Middle East. Those are the things I think about when talking about location. In that regard I think Army for me has better odds for the locations I want to go, I think...

>>34590216
no, hundreds of people join the military just for the GI bill, theyre usually the ones that bitch and moan everyday on facebook about how military life sucks, when in reality anywhere in life they would be just as miserable if not more. You dont HAVE to be infantry.

its what you make of it, be smart about it obviously.

>>34590216
>>34590270

I can't speak from experience. Because maybe we do have a bad idea, everyone says that same cliche "Get something you can bring back to the civilian world" But I think that's bullshit. If I wanted that I would have never been interested in the military to begin with.

Basically what anon said is how I've begun seeing it.

>>34590219

It's like choosing the hardest High School but you can't go to any of the good colleges. You're a badass when you're 18 but by the time you and all of your friends are 21 they've realized you're a retard.

Marines are the lowest-speed once they graduate their initial training. They have less opportunities than other branches for good training, fun toys, deployments, good duty stations, etc.

>>34590216

This question is basically the same as:

>I'm in love with my teenage sweetheart who is also a bipolar stripper, should we get married?

-or-

>I just graduated boot and have three grand in COLD HARD CASH. Should I buy a $40,000 new car with 20 % interest?

The answer is resoundingly "that's stupid, and you're stupid if you do it", but you're still going to do it, because you're stupid.

>>34590270
>>34590303
>>34590316
Thank you, you all made me feel better about my decision. My parents are trying to make me feel like shit about going Infantry because I won't gain any skills, but it's what I want to do.

>>34590461
Well shit

>>34590216
you should have some life experience to answer the question, 11b literally doesn't have a test score requirement sooooo have you usually had fun in those environments? the bottom feeder: classes, sports team, vidya rank, entry job, etc.

you don't have any other interest? i think you should see what you are allowed to be after you take the test and see if your mind changes before you dead set on infantry.

>>34590484
Tell your parents theyre faggots and live your own life

>>34590461
This post makes absolutely no sense. Is it retard day on here or what?

Is it true that boot and basic can really only be "failed" if you give up? It can't really be that easy.

>>34590567
It can also be failed if you shoot yourself and your DI

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For the love of fucking god, if you take one piece of advice from this thread, let it be this:

DO NOT GET MARRIED TO ESCAPE THE BARRACKS!

Your life will suck ass for a little bit, but you will 100% be making a tremendously terrible decision by shacking up with some random broad you just met because you don't like living in the barracks.

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>>34590182
Do you feel content with your career choice?
Do you ever feel like a second fiddle the the afsoc troops?
Does it require a ts clearance?

>>34590567
You're allowed to quit. The DIs, however, will do everything in their power to motivate you. Here's the caveat: you will spend m o n t h s waiting to get off the island if you quit. If you're in it for the long haul, it's 12 weeks. You can almost guarantee that you won't be going home, empty handed I might add, until 15 weeks. And you'll be staying in the squad bay the entire time.

Do not quit.

>>34590506
I scored a 76 on the asvsb. I was told I qualify for nearly everything. I still want infantry though

>>34585801
Japs were dug in to the point it was like WW1 on some islands. With the US having unmatched air power now and bunker busters, that shit ain't happening again.

>>34584902
Boots on the ground between Russia and China is never going to happen because of a) how globalized both countries are and b) the stockpile of nuclear weapons that each country has.

Unless Putin is found strangled to death with one of Donald Trump's ties, the best you're going to get are more proxy wars like Vietnam and the middle east.

>>34589975
Nice, what MOS?

Odd question here, what kind of underwear is typically brought on a deployment? Boxers? Compression shorts? Kevlar thongs?

>>34590567

The most common way to fail by far is just to give up and request to be sent home. You have to reaffirm this a shitton of times and it's a long process, not something that happens lightly or easily.

If you actually want to be there, pretty much the only thing that will stop you graduating is a major injury, and even then they're more likely to just keep you around until you heal and give you another shot. Even being fat and unable to pass the fitness test almost always results in them just giving you more time to do it.

>>34590777

MOS on paper was all-source intelligence analysis. I got the job because of some specific assignment stuff I did though, not just MOS credentials.

>>34590900
This. The DI's smoke you once in a while but at the end of the day they want you to succeed.

>>34590926
Often times they'll just IT the platoon for the hell of it, or because a few fucked up. It's never personal.

>>34590687
They said the same thing about Europe prior to WW1. South China Sea is a possible flashpoint, but that'd be almost entirely Navy. Russia is entirely up to miscalculations by both sides, and their economy has been cut off from other nations by quite a lot, so globalization doesn't play as big a role there.

Other events could also transpire, whether it's a new American COIN conflict or conventional conflict (likely to go COIN afterwards) against African, Middle Eastern, Asian, or even South American countries. People like to forget we sent in the Marines to Liberia in 2003. And who knows if Maduro is retarded enough to start shit by accident trying to look tough to distract from Chavismo's utter fucking failure.

>>34590900
What if an injury occurs, they look into med history and locate unreported past injuries? I heard of this stuff but I wasn't sure how much was MEPS shilling.

>>34590595
I don't entirely get why you can't live off base just because you're not married.

>>34590844
Actually I'm curious as well.

>>34590844
>>34591242
None

>>34591270
No seriously, is this the origin of the phrase "going commando."

>>34591226
You can, you always can. The point is its not a good idea at lower ranks cause the pay is so shitty. But if youre married or once you hit certain paygrades you get BAH which is a monthly allowance to pay for your apartment.

>>34591314
Yes, heatrash is a real thing

11b2p here, been in awhile. If anyone wants more insight on the Infantry side of things just ask.

>>34591334
Whats 2p?
How longs a while?

>>34591415
2 is my skill level, pvt-spc is 1 Sgt is 2 Ssg is 3 etc. P means airborne. About 5 years

is the Merchant Marine a part of the military?

>>34591334
Did you have Airborne school built into your contract, or did you pursue it later in your career?

Do you think anyone looking at infantry should just go airborne on their contract?

>>34591440
>2 is my skill level, pvt-spc is 1 Sgt is 2 Ssg is 3 etc
for non army what E- is that?

>>34591518
I had it in my contract, which is the only way to go if you want it. It depends on what you want to do in the Infantry. Do you want to just earn some college money, make some friends and probably a tobacco habit? Or stack some bodies?

>>34591566
E-5

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>>34591616
Word, what are your future plans?
ranger? sf?
Staying airborne? Just shoot the shit and explain some stuff I don't know enough to know what to ask.

>>34591604
So you can't pursue it later on if you don't get that in your initial contract is what you're saying? I didn't realize that.

I'd like to find a career in the military, I want to end up liking it, but I need to experience it. Among those options, yeah college money if I change my mind, and making friends and stacking bodies.

I've been trying to join up for 15 months now
I'm so very tired, guys.

>>34591640
What's the problem?

>>34591629
I deploy soon then i'm getting out after, or at least thats the plan for now. If i stay in I will go back to SFAS. I'm just getting older and there's other things I want to do in life.>>34591632
You don't have to have it in your contract, but its only way to get it for sure. sometimes in basic they offer it to people with the highest PT scores, but its never a for sure thing. Also, if you want to see combat, get a 11b OP40 contract and PT your face of till you ship off to basic.

>>34591699
No idea
Every time I go to the offices, they say everything is in order, I just need to wait another week.

>>34591705
>If i stay in I will go back to SFAS
So you failed out? Not calling you out just curious. 18x?

When should I expect to take the DLAB and/or the EDPT?

>>34591727
If you haven't figured out your issue in 15 months, you might actually be retarded. Your recruiter just doesn't have the heart to tell you.

>>34591803
Not OP, that seems kind of irresponsible on the recruiters part.

>>34591755
Yeah, I was 18x and i quit. I regret it all the time. But i was very immature at the time. I was lucky and had some outstanding team and squad leaders that helped me out a lot. I know I can make it now.

>>34591803
Fuck off and suck my dick.

I've talked to a dozen independent recruiters. All of them smile and give a thumbs up.

Jerk off your delusions of superiority elsewhere.

>>34591874
Word. What was it like? What made you quit? No bullshit how in shape were you? Did other 18x guys make it through? Age when you went through? Any other details would be cool.

>>34591727
>>34591979
>>34591640
>bait

>>34591997
Thanks mr recuiter sir.
I'm sure MY application will be speedy
You should all join up tomorrow!

>>34591989
It sucks. I thought that if I quit i wouldn't have to do anything like it again. oh boy was I wrong, I've done shit 10 times worse at my unit. But after a while you just get numb to all the suck and it starts to become funny watch all the new PVTs with their poo poo faces. If your a 18x you should be fine physically, as long as you put in work in your off time(also SOPC is amazing). A lot of 18xs make it past sfas but get dropped later on in the Q. usually in SUT. I think only 2 guys out of the 30 18xs I went with made it all the way.

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>>34592090
woh youre using so many acronyms I don't know.

>I've done shit 10 times worse at my unit
Details? Like physically tough or just shitty?

>SOPC is amazing
Whats SOPC? Give details on why its amazing please.

> A lot of 18xs make it past sfas but get dropped later on in the Q
Interesting ive never heard this before. Can you explain why?

>SUT
Whats that? Why do they struggle with this?

Appreciate all the info btw

>>34592143
Google is your friend.
professionalsoldiers.com is a good site for more info on SF.
im going to bed, but feel free to email at
[email protected]

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What's it like being in the Airforce? Why do they make you dice roll rates?

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>>34578471
>What's it like being in the Airforce?

A lot of people love the easy lifestyle, but they become professional victims. There's a definite inferiority complex around Airmen with regards to their service. They need to justify everything, almost like the people they're speaking to don't qualify them as "real" military. Terminal Lance did a comic on it.

>>34589665
The only people who are guaranteed direct commission are the people who are at military academies. I'm currently trying to get into an ROTC program so I've researched it a fair bit. There's something called the OML(Order of Merit List) that compares you to every other ROTC candidate. Its a combinations of GPA, PT scores, community involvement and cadre grades on leadership and performance. I've read that only 20% of ROTC students get selected for active. Personally I'm planning to do the Simultaneous Membership Program with the National Guard because I'm currently a civvie