Warsaw Pact thread Post some Warsaw Pact goodies

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I love this song

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>>34566744
durr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6uXU1vUEwU

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Romanians I believe gotta love that jumping off the transporter

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Nobody???

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Romanian Internal Security Forces I think

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There was no response

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>>34566744
>>34566757
The DDR had some really catchy songs. It's really hard to pick a single favorite. Maybe this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TprtJXwssXs

Though some were also just German translations of Soviet songs.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge9u1c-w9mc

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>>34567047
One of my favorites, truly Mielke was a true humanist loved all people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0J-Ce7cOE

>>34567093
Much like J, Edgar Hoover, Mielke is proof that an intelligence official who stays in office for a long time can be goddam frightening.
Having dirt on anyone and the authority to use those under their jurisdiction to do their bidding.

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>>34567160
Would have been interesting to see what a Yuri Andropov USSR would have cooked up had he not croaked so early.

Also I like this march

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>>34567214
Goddammit again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxthwjBxBt8

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>>34567093
>Summoned to Volkskammer to defend your beliefs and position
>Prepare speech you think will win everyone over
>Spill your allotted spaghetti ration all over the floor

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>>34567240
He jobbed hard should have unleashed the STASI Intervention Regiments and said fuck it

>>34567261
It's amazing how lenient the common people were towards the Stasi after the fall of the DDR. They rushed offices to secure documents before they all could be destroyed, but they didn't beat/kill the officers and agents.

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Dacia aint free from the oppression of the Hungarian Fifth columns we must rescind their autonomy also Soviet Union return Moldova right now! Low birth rates are a Hungarian conspiracy we must increase them. Praise the great minds of the organised Dacian state and great independent brilliant leader conducator Nicolae Ceaușescu.

Shout out to Comrade Josip Broz Tito and Kim il Sung

>>34567239

He looks very hungry

Also

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/world/europe/heinz-kessler-east-germany-military-dies.html

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>26 replies
>3 posters

What did /k/ mean by this?

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More jumping

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>>34567609
I love it man, heres some more.

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>>34567609
because /k/ has poor taste and will only be concerned about tacticool operators n shit

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>>34567609
Some of us are busy you mong. But I'll pitch in.

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>>34569822
Because we used to have many of these threads.
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>>34569950
The AMD-65 is sexy. Kind of wish it had a fixed stock.

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Did everyone else fall asleep or something?

>>34567609
the VZ 58... far superior to the ak47.. I wish I could get my hands on one

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>>34566718
Warsaw, Eastern Block and East Germam threads are always comfy and nice I love it.

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>>34567377
underrated post

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>Exits your International

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ya'all wouldn't mind if I...


BUILT A SUPERIOR SELF-REGULATIVE SOCIALIST SYSTEM?

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>>34571631
>Raindrop camo
>CZ52s

Hello yes this is my aesthetic

>>34571651
What subgun is that? It's like an MP-40 and a PPs-43 had a baby

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>>34571651
Tito please

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>>34571657
Zastava M-56, comrade. Yes, that's actually pretty much it, JNA loved the MP-40 so much they made their own 7.62x25 version to utilize the PPS magazines they had in abundance.

>>34571657

Yugoslav M56

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I love this pattern. Shame it's (relatively) hard to find uniforms with it.

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>>34571669
Don't forget their hardon for the MG 42 so they made the M 53

>>34571669
>>34571672
Appreciate it guys, now I have another unobtanuim subgun to pine after.

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>>34571680
How could I forget?

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>>34571682
Here you go anon, some happy JNA fun time with the M56.

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>>34571678
Dog shit picture aside I like these JRV-PVO uniforms

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M60 recoilless rifle, an 82mm you might've seen still used in Syria today.

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>>34571701
Talking of PVO, here's a Zastava M55 anti-air.

I know technically Yugoslavia wasn't part of the Warsaw pact, but I couldn't contain myself, in true Yugoslav fashion, to shit up a perfectly fine (STALINIST!) eastern bloc.

>>34567377
Ceausescu had some pretty big balls pushing his party line right on the Soviet border. Granted, it was during the Brezhnev years and the 80s, when the Soviets had much more important shit to worry about, but still. Like, the Albanians were going nuts building bunkers and getting cozy with the Chinese even after the Sino-Soviet split and the Yugos were just kind of doing their own thing, but Romania was literally on the Soviet border. Fucking brass balls.

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Yugos and their NOB fetishismo knows no bounds. Yugoslav Paratroopers, such as the 63rd Parachute Battalion (still part of the rather dismal Serbian Army) kept using the StG-44 up until the mid-70s, before it was finally replaced with the Zastava M70AB. Then it should come at no surprise that Prvi Partizan factory in Užice (now Serbia) still produces 7,92x33k ammunition.

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I would love to contribute but I have nothing to, enjoying your bread though chaps.

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>>34571715
I know my dad did his national service in Bijeli Manastir he was a Military Veterinarian.

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Drugovi i drugarice, čuvajte bratstvo i jedinstvo kao zenicu oka svog. U narodno-oslobodilačkoj borbi iskaljena, naša zemlja ponosna.

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>>34571750
My pleasure, comrade! My father served in Zagreb, in the ABHO service, my grandfather in Slovenia as a machine gunner on the old Maxims before they were replaced with Šarac machine guns.

>>34571752
>>34571770

Kakve mi kurac imamo sa varsavskim paktom?

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>>34571770
My dad was originally stationed in Sarajevo but they transferred him to Bijeli Manastir and he remained most of his time there. First time he arrived there the entrance was guarded by drunken kosovo albanians and rest of the base was well drunk too. Turns out they had traded some jeans for tons of alcohol with the Hungarian border guards.

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Another curious Yugoslav submachine gun, M49. Often confused with the iconic Pepesha, due to outward appearance (even by conscripted JNA servicemen), it is actually a Beretta Modello 38 tailored to take PPSh magazines. Was supplemented, then replaced by the equally funky M53.

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>>34571780
Da ih naučimo druže kako se gradio socijalizam!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9DkOthUsTc

>>34571770

Gramps was Rankovic's personal detail. Fite me

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SUMC

>>34571798
Ne volim da se podsecam tih vremena, pogotovo sto posle toga moram da pogledam kroz prozor.

>>34571801
There's a statue of my great grandfather,street and school named after him. Pls gib high rank TO-BiH

>>34571808
My dad's side more or less established Partizan movement in the heartland of Chetnik territory. Streets in town and everything. Orden Narodnog Heroja in my mail, when?

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>>34571785
Sounds like a true JNA story! My grandfather was one of the rare literate conscripts in his barrack, due to his generation suffering war time shortages, and occupation government (he was from Slavonia, under NDH, like many conscripts) wasn't exactly keen on education of it's local subjects. Even some of the officers (mostly Slovenians and Serbs) were illiterate. He mentioned the hygiene and other basic standards being awful on arrival, but was steadily increasing in quality during his service.

Also Yugoslavia used was generously contributed a lot of US surplus after the Tito-Stalin split. During the 50s, JNA fielded a curious combination of Shermans, Jacksons, Hellcats, Westland helicopters and skies soared with silver Sabres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4fufDMHwcs

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>>34571806
Ništa mi ne pričaj. Ali ne mogu da nas izrabljuju dovijeka, ne znam kako kod tebe, druže, ali ovde je radnicima već na nos izašla sadašnja vlada. Nije dovoljno za preokret, ali je početak. Pogušićemo ove smradove u njinoj krvi. Živio.

>>34571801
>>34571808
>>34571815
My grandmother had a one night stand with Ivo Lole Ribar, apartment in Novi Beograd when?


For the rest of contributors in this thread, the quintessential Yugoslav tune:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c27rGTeRG9w

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>>34571803
Soviet Navy had some really cool uniforms

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The M80 infantry fighting vehicle, mainstay of many ex-Yu countries to this day. Despite the distant outward resemblance to the BMP series, M80 is genetically more closely related to the french AMX-10P, however still retaining an indigenous design to suit JNA armored needs at it's core.

And with that comrades, this little tour in Yugonostalgia has drawn to a close. I leave with you with a song of our past, and our inevitable future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX2DcOxIb8Y

Matija Ivaniću, ustati ćeš sad iz groba, sa tobom u boj poći ću.

>>34571790

Gosh, that's awesome. A MAB done by Yugos. Truly best socialist country.

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>>34571917
He looks like a real nice guy

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Sublime aesthetic of Soviet Socialism.

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I'm going out for a run see you around!

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Meanwhile NATOfags pretend wearing skirts is ''''tactics''''.

>>34566718
Not quite vintage Warsaw pact but still shows some breddy gud weapons and aesthetics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hCxJ_fpTQY

>>34566934
Thats the PTAP

A paramilitary organization that trained highschoolers to handle guns and defend the country.

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>>34571675
I still don't understand how exactly the commies kept the stahlhelm-esque helmets and splinter camo.

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>>34572400
The culture was different with regards to how the commies approached Germany. The west wanted to actively blame the German people and essentially destroy their spirit. The Russians didn't blame them, they depicted them as being victims of Hitler and emphasized left wing resistance (such as the Straserites, and German communist party) to the 4th Reich. They let them keep some of their Prussian military traditions and didn't shame them for being Germans as long as they combined their "Germanness" with communism.

>>34572417
I didn't mean the ossies, I meant Bulgaria; the communists managed to execute 3 times as many people as the 21 years of "monarcho-fascist" rlue by Boris III in 7 months.

>>34566783
def not Romanians; not the right type of helmet

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>>34567377
top post tovarisch
>>34571717
His big balls were based on a tight friendship with the Chinese. After '68 the Soviets thought of invading Romania to put a new guy in power but they got warned by the chinks to not fool around; Romania was also doing technology transfer to China, galore.
t. romanian

>>34571947
il-28s?

>>34571947
Where the fuck is it? some dessert? shit looks like surface of the moon.

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>>34572570
I repeat Romania is Non Aligned Independent

>>34571999
>looking good tovarish! no homosex though

>>34572010
me likey

>>34571999
Is that an Early 74 with a 45 degree gas block?

>>34572010
didn't she die quite young because of some accident?

>>34572513
The Romanian M73 helmet as suggested by its name was introduced in the 70's.

Until then the army was issued soviet helmets.

>>34566840
The helmet is Hungarian.That's all i can tell from the pics.

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Some of my GDR autographs, (Krenz one is personally signed)

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T-64s retreat from Hungary April 25 1989

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>>34581002
Have any good sources for CSLA related stuff?

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>>34581017
Most were from a forum, watermark on this photo.

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Czechoslovakian liebermuster

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>>34581024
Thanks.

>>34571682
I think there's a Forgotten Weapons vid on it.

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So with all the CSLA posting, how effective were they militarily? I sense some attempt at modernization in the late 80's but how was the average morale and motivation for the rank and file? Also in the event of the balloon going up what would've been their role?

>>34581132

Czechfag here. Politically, the idea was to stay as independent as possible, so majority of ground vehicles were domestic or license-built, jets were import/license, all helicopters were soviet import. Firearms were entirely domestic, except for RPGs, the SVD.

There have been multiple times the army modernized, 70's and 80's were more prominent due to 'Normalization' aka the return to stalinism as a reaction to the '68 warsaw pact invasion.

The entire role of CSLA was to roll over the border of west germany and austria, take the brunt of the nuclear attack and keep going, then let the soviets do the job.

Morale has been low since the regime took hold in '48, but especially after '68. Everyone tried dodging the service, people who were active in politics were ridiculed secretly.

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>>34581329
>the return to stalinism
And how did the average Czech take that? Also how many Soviet troops were stationed in Czechland? Were former security officials shunned like the Stasi were in the DDR?

How did Czechoslovakia get away with being able to field such radically different small arms designs like the VZ.58 and UK.59?

>The entire role of CSLA was to roll over the border of west germany and austria
And were they equipped to do that? Would it have been possible in say, the late 80's? From what I've seen the CSLA did have quite a bit of older equipment but were starting to receive newer stuff (Mig-29, T-72, Konkurs, etc.) as well.

>>34581329
surely the soviet strategic planners would have taken into account defection? or was the punishment for defection so great that it wasn't expected to be a huge problem?

>>34571763

??

I get that those are iglas, but what are the cables for?

>>34581349
>How did average czech take that
Pretty bad, people got a taste of freedom and then it was taken away. The government tried hard but people were already undermining the system, which was lagging behind. Culture from west, bad economic decisions, international political pressure from dissidents.
>How many soldiers
150 000 soviet military personell at 30 locations until 1991
>were security personell shocked
People who wanted to keep their jobs reported their comrades and kept shut. The government returned to their old ways of snagging people.
>How did czechoslovakia get away with fielding their designs
We are the Dixie of Europe, we put our designs forward, the soviets only wanted the weapons to be in the same caliber. This all happened when our communists realized they would be taking orders from Kremlin and that every thing we would be dependant on the USSR would mean less political independence.

>Were they equipped
The army was fairly big, I think It would be possible in the 50's or the 80's. The whole military was getting pumped with money as the government started losing grip.

>>34581368
Soviets? Nothing, it's not their jurisdiction. The czechoslovak communist party? Death.

There was nowhere to run, the borders were death traps of several layers of barbed electrified wire, mines, outposts. But you wouldn't suffer personally, your family would. They'd lose their jobs, your kida wouldn't be able to study, etc.

>>34572666
more like An-12 Cubs

>>34581504
>Communist Party? Death
Did they have some sort of internal security forces like the KGB? Also how large was the CSLA in manpower?

>>34572666
An-12, actually, it seems.

>>34572748
God knows. Soviet Union is so expansive it could be anywhere (even Moon), but my guess is Afghanistan or somewhere close.

>>34572908
You might have mistaken her with someone. That is Daliborka Stojšić, miss Yugoslavia, unfortunately not an actual fighter pilot. Another fun fact; Yugoslavia was giving F-5 Tigers some suggestive side glances, before settling on MiG-29s. Even funner fact, Yugoslavia was first European country outside of Soviet Union to fly MiG-29s, title of the first belonging to India who brought them three years prior.

>>34572466
Hey if it works, it works! Many Warsaw Pact member continued using German and Italian arms they had in abundance, either from occupation or from local production. Somethings just kinda worked better then others it seems, and saw continued service, even after using surplus became unnecessary. If I'm not wrong, I believe the Romanian Stahlhelm production saw wide service prior to WW2.

>>34566869
122mm D-74?

>>34581553
The SNB - Sbor národní bezpečnosti (national security board) split into the
VB - Veřejná bezpečnost (public security - the police)
STB - Státní bezpečnost (national security - internal police, like nkvd)

The ČSLA had 200 000 active personell in 1989

>>34581017
can anyone ID this camo/soldiers? Thx

>>34572010
>Comrade Anon do you want to go to the cinema with me to see newest socalist movie after we shot down capitalistic pigs?

>>34572908
More info, what pretty girl died as a pilot?

>>34582441
Post-war CSLA motorcycle recon using the german M45 leibermuster

>>34582953
thanks friendarino.