The United States hasn't won a war in 72 years Can we please

>>34561836
Only way to wage war with zero backlash is to have a tight firm grip on the media like Putin during Chechnya

>>34561836
>democracy
>free speech
>winning

Pick two.

>>34562125
Who started the America is a democracy meme?

Korea

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>>34561836
just to busy importing beaners and other filth.
calm down, alteasy they have proud logo such as
I die for Israel.

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>>34562298
he said won the war, not run away from one.

>>34562322
Does South Korea still exist?

>>34562322
South Korea was attacked. We defended it. What more do you want nimrod?

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>>34561836
That's because America hasn't declared war on any countries in since WWII. Fact.

>>34562737
0/10 b8

>>34562737
Why do people point this out like it matters?

>>34561836
united states doesn't have real enemies it creates enemies to keep the MID running

name one justified war US fought past WWII

>>34562773
Why do people say we lost the war? We completely pacified Iraq. Then we gave it to the Iraqis and they lost it. That's not a US loss.

>>34562814
> why does a war that didn't achieve any beneficial results is considered a loss?

maybe because thousands of people died there and hundreds of billions of dollars were wasted for this magnificent result

>>34562823
> thousands of people died there and hundreds of billions of dollars were wasted
Name 1 (one) war where this didn't happen

>>34562823

Yeah but we killed the leader of a country that a majority of that country still supported, so that's a win.

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>>34562850
Yeah, because that election totally wasn't rigged and/or got results under threat of death.

>>34562862

That should be easy to document. Can you provide any proof?

>>34562878
Seriously? A tyrannical dictator puts out a "do you want me to stay y/n" poll with a 99% yes result and you don't question the integrity of the result?

>>34562839
name one (1) war post WWII the cost was worth the results

>>34562272
Probably has to do with the whole, ya know, voting thing.

>>34562896
>how dare you ask for sources to my claims! You don't hate freedom do you goy?

>>34563414
If all wars post-WW1 are like that, then why point out the United States specifically?

>>34561836
imagine being such a fat bastard that you actually get like op

>>34561836
>be op
> never fought in a war
> sits at his moms basement all day
> wants war because he counts as winner too even tho he didnt do anything for his country
so you want people to die without a reason... then go to war yourself first op

>>34562780
I guess that depends on your definition of justified, but I'd say the Koreans and south Vietnamese were pretty thrilled to not get liberated. Not that it really helped the Vietnamese out in the end, as you all know.

Obviously Iraq was a different story. But what do you expect when the entire population is nearly split down the middle as far as how they want to run things? They've been violently oppressing each other for centuries

>>34561836
We won Korea.

>>34563463
You're fucking retarded

>>34561836
who won desert storm desu?

>>34562780
How is a country begging for our help and us providing it unjustified?

>>34563414
Name one (1) war in the history of humanity where the outcome was worth the cost.

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>>34562780

>implying our involvement in WWII was justified

>implying that we fought for the right side

>implying that the end of WWII did not signal the destruction of western civilization

I have some bad news...

>>34561836
>yfw desert storm was over 72 years ago

>>34561836
Did the US ever won a war?

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>>34563817
>implying if it wasn't the jews it would be someone else.
though USA Germany and Japan teamed up, China and Russia would be BTFO right now too.

>>34563932
It was lots of "somebody else" as it was that were massacred by the Nazis.

>>34563463
>what are republics

>>34564068
... a form of democracy?

>>34564220
America is a democratic republic

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>>34562780
>justified war
nigga plz
shits been super fucked up since the before the beginning

>>34563817
you're a pro-fascist antisemite, we know.

We do fight our enemies. This isn't WW2 and I can't believe it's 2017 and I still have to fucking explain this to people (mostly people that think Afghanistan and Iraq are the same country). There isn't some big bad guy fortress in the ME full of Saturday morning cartoon villains that plot to do dastardly deeds. This isn't Nazi Germany where the """bad""" guys wear the coolest outfits fucking ever. It's a partially organized insurgency that can blend in anywhere. The only way to """win""" would be to nuke the entire country and that would be a political and moral suicide so you're not really winning. The point of COIN is to get the NOT insurgents to snitch on the guys trying to defend their country. It's basically Red Dawn but they're the Americans and we're the invading Russians.

>>34561836
>Invasion of Grenada
>Invasion of Panama
>Gulf War 1
>Gulf War 2

I can't believe we lost those

>>34562125
Just because our speech isn't controlled by the government doesn't mean we have free speech. Our press isn't free, but it isn't controlled by the government.

>>34564300
You don't have to be pro- Hitler to think our involvement was a bad idea. Don't do pop culture it's bad for you.

>>34562878
Nah, you're right actually. The elections weren't rigged because there was no election. In '79 Hussein took power by force, and in '95 a referendum was held to "elect a president" with only Hussein running. The ballots themselves simply said "do you support Hussein as the president of the republic?" With a boxes to check yes or no.

Source, because I'll know your ask despite it being a forgone conclusion: Oxford University press, ISBN number 0-19-924958-X goes pretty in depth into the facts of the "election"

>>34561836
You want to go back to fighting the way we did a hundred years ago? Fine. First get rid of the Internet as we know it - swamps like 4chan especially. Next, get rid of the nukes.

We had our chance at 1984-style endless war, but technical and social evolution blew right past it. Seems people would rather be alive and comfortable than dying for someone else's cause. Who knew? Decadent bastards.

How's this for a plan - take over Australia and turn it into the Mad Max hellscape /k/ dreams of, stocked with guns, ammo and MREs. Then ship all the retards like OP there to briefly live out their 40K fantasies. The rest of us will get on with stabalizing society and colonizing space.

Good?

>>34564881
>take over Australia and turn it into the Mad Max hellscape /k/ dreams of, stocked with guns, ammo and MREs.
you don't need to take it over, we'll gladly give you the NT. just stay away from the yanks and darwin.

>>34563463
Democracy is voting for absolutely everything, Republics (which we are) only vote for representatives to make and vote for laws.

>>34562322
Korean War never ended. We've been at a ceasefire for decades now. If the NorKs cross the DMZ it's back on.