What is the next big advancement in small arms technology?

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>>34560897
A gun made out of skeleton parts.. using something other than gunpowder as propellant

Guns that shoot other guns that shoot you.

>>34560897

Military: Disposable guns that just abolish maintenance in favour of perpetual procurement.

Civilian: Probably more paint jobs, as a generation of counterstrike kids realizes they can disfigure real guns.

Guns that will not function if persons you are shooting at feel that their safe space is being threatened

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>>34560920
Honestly guns that shoot barrels that shoot bullets is a good idea to get twice the momentum.
Make a barrel projectile with a projectile inside that fires when the barrel has been fired, and it will shoot twice as hard.

Sorta like rockets to the moon.

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>>34560920
Like this?

>>34560897
Hyper thermite rounds that give small arms anti tank capability

>>34560944
Could the second stage work like a recoilless rifle shell?

Telescoping ammo
Electronic fire control groups
Two-stage magnetically accelerated gunpowder rounds

The next big step will probably be caseless ammo. And infantry rifles will be increasingly replaced by micro- and sub micro guided missiles, at least in the military e.g. in combat.

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>>34560920

I'm trying to imagine this in semi practical terms but it always turns into grenade launcher.

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>>34560920
Close enough.

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>>34560897
Maybe some think it's not that big, but I think when people figure out how great the 6.5 CBJ is and it (or something like it) sees widespread use. Tungsten sabot rounds the size of 9mm, but with the effective range of a 5.56 carbine. Twice the ammo carrying capacity, smaller guns, a logisticians wet dream (sidearms share ammo), and lots of penetrating power. Stopping power isn't the best but it's low recoil so make a 1000 RPM PDW in it.

caseless

full polymer

>>34560897

fusion power allowing for enough condensed power to fuel a railgun or laser

until then, not much

>>34561314
>Twice the ammo carrying capacity
I dont really see it. Its a shorter round, but carrying capacity is generally dictated by weight rather than relative dimensions. If 6.5 has comparable weight and size characteristics to 9x19, that shit gets heavy with only a few hundred rounds.
>Stopping power isn't the best but it's low recoil so make a 1000 RPM PDW in it.
The old compensate-for-poor-wounding-charactristics-with-high-RoF thing. I feel like we already crossed this bridge with the M16 and those SPIW/flechette projects in the cold war, where everyone in practice ended up using single shots anyway, so you just end up with an inadequate round.

Caseless that actually works without too many problems

>>34560897
plasma/laser/energy guns

A new kind of propellant, probably.

>fin-stabilized semi-guided .50 BMG
DARPA tests some last year, probably won't become feasible in terms of cost for a a couple of years at least

>smart-linked guns coupled with helmet HUD
ammo counter, drone view, maybe some AR features like highlighting friendlies. Probably SF only for the foreseeable future

>>34561585
bro in my sof unit we have our hp bars displayed on the squad corpmans hud

OICW that doesn't weigh 30 pounds

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>>34560897

Self guided ammunition.
Better barrel technology that will allow hyper-velocity rifle calibers to shoot more than a few thousand bullets through a gun before accuracy loss.
"Smart" guns that the government can lock, turn off, or somehow limit via radio r electronic signals.
Gunpowder and primers will become much more clean burning as time goes on.
Maybe eventually we figure out a reliable way of making an automatic rifle that never (or very rarely) needs cleaning.

>>34560990
Like a gyrojet?

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>>34560897
Scopes with a built-in HUD that provides information like wind direction, range, etc. Maybe even an ammo counter.

>>34560897
weaponized ultra-aids

>>34561437
>I don't really see it
According to their site 900 rounds of 6.5 are the same caring weight as 300 of 5.56. Might be an exaggeration, but the things weight 115 grains total.
>Everyone ended up using single shots anyways
An effective muzzle brake for it would let you make burst shots out to a few hundred yards. If you need to go further give a guy or two in each squad a battle rifle.

>>34563483
>An effective muzzle brake for it would let you make burst shots out to a few hundred yards. If you need to go further give a guy or two in each squad a battle rifle.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be controllable, but since modern firefights end up being unaimed single shots in the general direction of the enemy to allow gunners to maneuver or for CAS to arrive, I just dont see the utility over existing weapons in inventory. Provided that ammo weight is accurate however, I can see the appeal in that regard.

Portable programmable airburst 40mm grenade launchers

Cased telescoping ammo

>>34562391
>Scopes with a built-in HUD that provides information like wind direction, range, etc.
If they have all that shit, then they should have an illuminated reticule that moves accordingly so you don't ever have to touch a knob after a 100 yards sight-in for calibration.
Maybe even some mechanism within the gun(probably electronically fired so they processes can be in sync) that nudges the gun subtly a certain direction to make sure your "marked" target gets hit and takes out "most" human error. Reducing group sizes from 3in to 2 or 1in with that subtle help.

>>34562450
Delivered via dildo bayonet

brilliant. Nobody would want to go to war with you.

>>34560920
ratchet and clank. mini turret glove.

spawns little collapsable smart turrets that shoot any enemies in the vicinity. self destruct when they run out of ammunition.

>>34560897
Caseless ammunition

>>34560897
Another product aimed at California gun owners to bypass their laws.

>>34563571
Spaceman Craig and the G11: part 2

>>34560897
If SBR, AOW, and some NFA laws were modified or repealed there would be a lot of inventing and new steps in evolution and what not

I think a big reason the market is so saturated and stale isn't because of what manufacturers want to make, but what they're allowed to make.

I think in terms of a millatary evolution, probably things that improve accuracy, be it laser targeting and ID'ing, improving caseless mami, nothing we're not too far away from now apart from muh rail guns

>>34560931
Disposable firearms seem like the furture, cheep but yet highly effective guns that can be mass produced quickly.

>>34560897
Proper caseless

>>34563857
That was the idea behind disposable Stanag and Famas mags. Protip: They didn't get disposed of.

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>>34563524
Good point. Still it seems like the ideal PDW cartridge to me, and existing inventories of 9mm SMGs can be converted to it easily. Should see more use.

>>34562277
Bullpup will never be the future. It's basically already the past.

>>34564144
I would never have believed it a decade ago, but this genuinely seems to be the direction of things. More countries are ditching bullpup or relegating them to second line units than are adopting them; and the major countries that never touched them before like Germany and the US have no apparent interest in starting now.

>>34564236
It was a good idea but nobody has been able to accomplish the accuracy it was intended for.

>>34561374
sounds expensive.

the next big advance was developing ways to manufacture advance weapons and ammo cheaply.

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>>34560897
shrunk down and simplified version of the XM25 like from Elysium

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Some kinda squirt gun?
Or maybe teeny tiny missiles instead of bullets. That'd be cool.

I just wanna splatgun, is all.

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>>34560920

>>34561532
Will never be viable as personal firearms within an atmosphere. The physics simply don't add up.

The next big advancement won't be in actual weapons, but in augmented reality gear.

>>34564373
>gyrojet

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I've noticed that every single one of these "What is the next big advancement in small arms technology?" threads utilizes the EXACT SAME OP image

>>34561941
That's badass. How much health do the medpacks heal?

>>34560931
I don't know about disposable guns. In war you aren't going to want a gun that is about to expire if you get caught in a situation where you need a gun. But I'm not military so what do I know

>>34563558
There is already a sniper rifle that does this, except it works by automatically pulling the trigger in the exact moment when you will hit the target.

>>34564378

>Metal Gear?!?

>>34560897

I'm not going to tell you, but I'll give you a hint:

it's round.

>>34568447

Oh... and what If I told you, OP, that I've found a way to make EM technology 50% more efficient, and eliminated all digital timing and transistors?

also, I've developed a chemical power plant for it. I haven't crunched the numbers for it's weight/power yet, so it might not be sufficient, or light enough.

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>>34565355
Those are unguided rockets, Anon Anonnerson. Missiles are guided.

>>34564589

Lasers yes, at a particular frequency. someday, but it's almost impossible to pack enough energy into the things to make them useful in a handheld device.

but, plasma is unstable in atmosphere.

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>>34560897
GLORIOUS THINGS ARE COMING!

>>34560897
The future is here bub.

https://youtu.be/UoTU-X0qbnQ

Its all about the materials. Weapons made out of mostly composites/polymer, even the barrel with just an insert (you already see this with carbon fiber barrels). Instead of brass cases, you get polymer rounds, which is something the US military is researching at the moment due to the weight reduction.

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>>34560897
Double barrel nuggets

Trigger is replaced by a pushbutton switch, electronically (dis)engaging the solenoid fire control package

>>34570466
Fire by wire

>>34570466
>will immediately be modified by gunsmith-hacker hybrids for remote firing
Schway as frag, chummer

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>>34560897

>>34561380
Fallout Microfusion Cells when.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Microfusion_cell_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)
Not the most powerful fictional battery in fiction but its pretty neat.

>>34568891
Funny thing is that we have everything to make bolters just that they're unfeasible because of the enemies we have right now don't have power armor, thick green skin, wraithbone armor, etc.

>>34563571
>Caseless ammunition
I don't see that becoming a thing. Too vulnerable to the elements & needing of protection, and would require fixing & over-complicating what essentially isn't even broken one bit, and in fact, has been mostly perfected.

>>34572876
Cased telescoped polymer. It combines the lighter weight of caseless with the protection of cased. It's also superior to brass, due to insulating the chamber instead of conducting heat.

Combined with smart optics and the next generation of 3d printed suppressors like OSS and you can see the future from here.

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>>34571232

Essentially.

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>>34564351
>YWN chase down a flying Bugatti in a mad max'd GTR
>YWN demolish robot security forces with a proto-bolter
>YWN shoot down spaceships with a shoulder-fired missile launcher

Elysium was so fucking dope.

>>34560897

I can tell you what it's not: any of the shit the angry whispering man told me about on FutureWeapons when I was in middle school.

But still, RIP in piece

>>34562391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57PNhV5iHyM