Tavor

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Anyone?

>>34544919
>>34545019
Support Terrorism much.jpg

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>>34545133

So a good rifle or you can only meme?

>>34544919
I don't buy jewish products.

>>34544919
Don't they shoot only 2-2.5 moa on a good day with premium match ammo? Not like it isn't good enough for CQB, but I think I'll stick to ARs. Although if you have to have an SBR sized rifle without the stamp and with a 16" barrel it fits the bill pretty well.

>>34544919
>not ambi
dropped for this alone

>>34544919
It looks cool and is a pleasant shooter.

>>34544919
For $1700 you could buy a quality AR, an MRO w/ mount, a good light, and have money to spare.

>>34544919
INB4 /pol/ goes MUH JEWISH RIFLE
HURR DURR HURRR

Its a great rifle if you like bullpups. So-so otherwise.

Ignore these fags:
>>34545133 >>34545477

Doesn't survive the mud-test despite being all sealed up.

Bottom line: Jewish shit.

>>34544919
Over-priced and inaccurate

>>34545561
>buyer's remorse
You bought a a fucking lemon, no need to project.

>>34545556
>Just buy a civic for $3k

>>34545566
Ian pls go.

>>34545607
>Implying the Tavor is a Mercedes

>>34545566
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDc9wKoQgM

It's shit.>>34545566

>>34545133
He said Israeli, not Palestinian.

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>>34545577
Yes and yes.

On the left is my gun, the right is my autistic marine friends gun. My gun is ok. Not good, not great, and not bad. Just ok. Which blows because how much it was. My friend's gun the the other hand is cringy and i hate it.

Nice plastic fantastic if you can afford it.
I'm not into bullpups but if I was the Tavor would probably be my first choice.

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The X95 has accuracy issues but the SAR16 is great. It balances directly in front of your shoulder so it takes a steady stance. it will eat whatever ammo you feed it

>>34545541
>not ambi
are you retarded
it's a bolt swap, idiot

>>34545763
>muh mud test
any fucking gun will malfunction with 10lbs of mud dumped on it

>>34545846
>ncstar $25 chinkshit amazon optic
yeah, it's definitely the gun's fault and not the fact that your optic is designed for airsoft guns
i had one of those and it would shake itself loose every 10 rounds

would rather a RDB or AUG 3

>>34544919
Didnt like it. Very plastic-y which isnt a bad thing but in this case, it felt flimsy and cheap (although its not really either).

>IWI Tavor: SAR 16.5" SOCOM1

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/668522435

>>34544919
I think that unless a bullpup layout is offering anything revolutionary, it's stupid to go through all the bother.

From an engineer's perspective, the only new design worth looking at is Keltec's RDB. In the hands of a competent manufacturer, that could be a very nice rifle.

The Tavor is just a basic long-stroke design adapted into a bullpup form. It enjoys no advantages over a conventional layout other than a longer barrel in a shorter OAL.

Just get an AR, it's superior.

>>34544919
IDF here
I've always wondered, why do Americans even need a bullpup?
We need them because
>In doors in your face qcb
>Armoured vehicles are..... Tight to fit in.
What do you guys need it for as regular citizens, though?

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>>34544919
I'm intrigued by the upcoming .308 Tavor, but I'll probably end up getting a SCAR 17S instead anyway.

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>>34546898
Home defense, discreet transport.

>>34547029
I'd just get myself a pistol, honestly.
Feel free to keep funding us with your purchases though.

>>34545607

A civic that performs better

>>34546898
>need

>>34547010
>buying a SCAR
>2017

>>34544919
I don't want to support the slave trade of white people

http://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-of-slaves-in-israel-global-study-finds/

>>34545477
It was designed by Germans, like everything Israeli.

Honestly, I always wanted one until recently. (I still want a bullpup spacegat.) The tavor being something like 3moa and the x95 at 5moa. And for almost 2 grand?!

It's like the guys who make this thing specialize in ripping people off or something...

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>>34546594
>x95 accuracy issue
Do they really? Shot my buddies last weekend and it was consistently hitting 1.6-2.5 moa.

>>34547687
A batch got out that did, like, 5-6 moa with match ammo.
It was a mess.

>>34547687
that's an accuracy issue for people on /k/ when shitting on a rifle

>>34544919
I never fired the rifle, but I do happen to own the M21 reflex sight that goes on it.

>>34547379
If you just want a bullpup for the novelty you should look into a Hi-Point carbine with a bullpup conversion kit.

>>34547687
Stock trigger?
That's pretty good. From what I understand the bad groups are down to the creepy trigger. Replaceable, but another cost.

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>>34544919

>>34547171
It's still objectively the best battle rifle around.

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>>34544919
something something THE JEEEEWWWSSS etc.

Anti-semitism aside, they're kind of over priced for what they are. Mine has been reliable, eats whatever I put in it, ergos are OK, and the fact an army uses it is good to know. Trigger is pure shit and the only upgrades are 250 bucks. Rail space is limited; hard to put a light on there but not impossible.

I don't think they're worth the 1,500 price tag. Especially when you can find Kel-Tec RDB's for less than that now.

>>34544919
What would the manual of arms be for reloading the Gabor? Flick out the stock and AK-rock it?

>>34545805
>not knowing Israel supports ISIS

>>34545763
iwi made the ACE for you, mr autism.

>>34547239
Even their race if you want to get existential

Stop trying to sell us memes and devote your entire nation to the production of the Jericho.
>>34548114
>ACE
>implying anyone likes the Galil for being a cheap Valmet in 5.56 rather than its late Cold War aesthetic
>turning it into something that looks like Jebbie's first AR

It's been completely dethroned by the RDB, which is hilarious to me.

>>34546594
>a bolt swap is now ambi
Lol no jewnigger.
>any fucking gun will malfunction with 10lbs of mud dumped on it
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>>34547728
A hi-point? But I'm not black?


But I'm all seriousness, aftermarket bullpup conversion stocks seem like they would be janky and have a shit trigger.

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>>34547728
Oh god that is fucking stupid why do I want one.

>>34545451
>Ukraine
>Armed by israel

Hmmm... really gets my noggin joggin

>>34548353
>bullpup kit
>not actually any shorter
???

>>34548268
Almost as hilarious as how long it took for someone else to use the P90's downward ejection

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>>34548429
Plz ATF my doggo is old and wretched, let her die peacefully.

>>34544919
jewish made
and shitty
also i hate bullpups they handle gay

>>34549786
>they handle gay
If it's not front-heavy enough for you, just put a bunch of gear on the front until it's better.
Silencer, ATPIAL, Pez dispenser; I'm sure you can figure something out.

>>34549847
not that i just dont like how the magazine is behind the trigger.
i instinctively move foward to place a new mag in and i dont like that.
just a personal problem i guess but thats why i dislike them.
nothing to do with weight.

>>34545763
>>34545566
Neither did the AK. Your point is irrelevant.

>>34550176
Training issue.

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>>34545561
AUG is better in every respect, why buy this heap of shit?

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>>34550397
>AUG is better in every respect

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>>34550474
deserved punishment for being an affront to god and nature

Why does any mention of the Tavor turn /k/ full fucking retard EVERY SINGLE TIME?

>>34550607
implying most of /k/ isn't full fucking retard

>>34550526
>affront to God and nature
>have high average IQ, pretty much indigo children
Being pro-righty is like being pro-Brazilian, breeding to the lowest common denominator

>>34547760
I loathe the matza gun but that is undeniably 80s sci-fi sexy.

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So i guess the Kel-Tec really hits the spot in the bullpup department...

>>34551683
>ejection port is behind the mag
You can't get more pupped than this.

>>34551683
If only it were in .308.

>>34548114
>IWI made the overpriced cocktease rifle that no one wanted in response to demands for a Galil
Not something to point out if you want to defend them.

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>>34552763
I'm still fucking mad.

>>34552703
thats called the RFB, man.

>>34548366
explain retard

>>34552980
>the .308 version of the Rifle, Downward-ejecting, Bullpup is the Rifle, Forward-ejecting, Bullpup
No, I meant literally a .308 RDB.

>>34550607
Combination of being Jewish and a bullpup, two things many people hate here.

>>34550607
Theres some actual discussion about the gun here so I'd say this is a pretty good thread.

>>34548353
>Accepts standard magazines but has a widened mag-well in order to accept a doublestack once one is found to fit or custom designed.
How does that even work?

>>34553156
It doesn't, hence why they completely dodge the question of why pay 200 dollars for a single stack chassis.

>>34544919
The only reason to get one is to get an SBR sized gun without a tax stamp and have the bonus of keeping a 16" barrel. Unless you needed/wanted a rifle that compact, imo an AR would serve you better.

apparently some fudd is willing to trade a p239 for one

I can't remember model names but I like the look of the original model. the upgraded one looks kinda wack. neat looking guns but I'd buy a SCAR before a tavor.

The AUG is the superior bullpup in every respect, unless you're eyeing a .300 blackout conversion kit for the Tavor, so you can meme really hard.

>>34544919
I think it wants you to fuckin' lurk more.

>a thread died for this

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>>34548187

>>34555712
Genuine question, why is this the case?
I only have a limited experience with the aug and the trigger is horrendous. I'm sure the tavor is just as bad bit I've heard there are genuinely good aftermarket available. Plus isn't the aug an 1:9 twist, on top of you not being able to mount certain optics that get in the way of the charging handle?

>>34544919
X95 is better. Both the X95's are Tavors are some of the best bullpups. Neither is all that accurate. Both have shitty triggers. I like both better than i like the AUG, but why the fuck would you ever want a bullpup?

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Pros:
>Balances well
>Ergonomic, save for reloads
>Ready for optics and light out of the box
>Takes all common 5.56 magazines

Cons:
>Heavier than competing bullpups
>Overpriced
>Shit trigger, even with spring removal mod
>Overgassed for muh adverse conditions
>No adjustable gas block
>Sub-par accuracy compared to AUG or AR
>Can't clean nooks and crannies of receiver without dunking in a bathtub
>Minimal aftermarket
>Giving Jews shekels

Get an AUG or wait for an F90 Atrax if you want a bullpup.

>>34555912
>I only have a limited experience with the aug and the trigger is horrendous.
http://www.neu-trigger.com/

My roommate owns one.

He really likes it and it always garners interest at the range.

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>>34556175
>subpar accuracy compared to aug or ar
AR isn't even fair to compare since it's literally one of the most accurate semi auto platform in the world. I suppose the argument holds its head since a 2000 dollar ar would outshoot almost anything.

How are the accuracy on the augs? I looked at a review and they call it a sub moa rifle while posting 5 shot group with a flyer and only counting 4 of the shots, and the bullpup forum guys are reporting 2-3 moa for most parts with cheap 55grain ammo

>>34556115
>why the fuck would you ever want a bullpup?
Ideal for home defense because putting a silencer on the front gives it the same size and balance as an unsuppressed normal carbine, without the extra tax stamp and baffle erosion of a suppressed SBR.

>>34544919
The jews got jewed. Should have upgraded to the Galil ACE, or gone with the proven AUG. Tavor is just a meme with good marketing.

I hate how the arms industry has turned into a tax vampire that fleeces our governments by pushing novelty over reliability.

>>34556115
>X95 is better.
Good joke.

Can someone explain to me why this thing has such a dogshit trigger compared to the FN2000 and AUG? Like it wasn't even funny how awful it was in comparison.

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>>34556421

Couldn't tell you, the optic was not meant for any sort of precision shooting.

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>>34556731
So you can spend another $350 on a trigger upgrade for your $1750 rifle. This is an Israeli company, after all.

>>34556735
literally just shoot a group at 100 yards
>people who boost the accuracy of their guns can't even shoot a proper group without a magnified optic

>>34557168
Not him but I don't think you understand just how garbage the OG AUG optic reticle (aka Donut o' Death) is for anything other than planting 5.56 rounds in center-mass-sized targets.

>>34557192
Just aim at the same spot on the target for ten shots in a row.
Nobody is asking about accuracy here, just precision.

>>34547914
The assholes who make those flashlight fore-grips stopped making them, despite having waiting list orders.

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>>34557252
The Midwest Industries handguard can do the same thing.

>>34555791
Pls explain this subdued reaction gif to my autistic brain, pertaining to its relevance to the previous post.

>>34556731
Both the FS 2000 and AUG have comparable trigger weight of around 8-10lbs.
They all have dogshit triggers.

>>34545541
This is by far the dumbest argument I hear spewed on this board regarding bullpups

Akin to saying
>Not secret segal compatible

>>34545672
>Missing the point entirely

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>>34545763
>>34545566
Meanwhile, both the AK and Glock failed the same test, and failed hard.
"Shit" seem to sell like hotcakes in the civilian, law-enforcement, and military markets. Quite the mystery.

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>>34544919
The X95 would make a lot more sense if it had a 13" barrel like G-d intended.

I have one of them jewguns; the SAR.
My only real complaint is the gas venting right under the nose. Nothing an aftermarket gasketed cover couldn't fix, but still.

>>34545133
/thread
>>34545805
>implying Jewkike presence in the ME and western interference into ME isn't the *cause* of terrorism in the first fucking place

are you a brainwashed idiot or are you just parroting what you hear?

>>34558181
Thanks for the heads up, Alex Jones.

>>34558231
>implying that's a crazy conspiracy theory and not actual facts

fuck off with your Alex jones meme damage control bullshit

>>34558244
Take your Risperidone and calm the fuck down, spaz. This isn't the place for rants about jews or FEMA camps.

>>34545521
Worse in fact 4 moa or around there

>>34558301
>Damage control
>muh FEMA camp conspiracy memes
not an argument

>>34550474
>>34550751
You know you can have a left handed version, right? Aug is superior in every conceivable way to the tavor. It's just how it is

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Heavy, but cool looking and that's all that matters right?

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>>34558346
>you can get a left-handed version
That doesn't do anything about the underlying problem.

>>34558370
Optic?

>>34558433
Meprolight

>>34550474
>>34550397
>respect
it's aspect, you memerinos

>>34558427
nibba WHAT

>>34559333
The M21 is a garbage optic but my autism demands that my Tavor have one on it.

>>34557791
>is unusable for 10+% of the population
>dumb argument
Wow, this pistol grip is molded to the hand of the company CEO and losers are complaining the grip doesn't fit in their hands? How dumb!

>>34544919
Doesn't it have one of the worst triggers like, ever?