Could they have resisted the Nazi incursion?

Yeah man that country was literally built to be a fortess

>Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany.

Uncle Adolf

>>34529048
I luv you ;)

>>34529019
I hate Nazis

>>34529019
Their whole plan relied on the Nazis having more important shit to deal with to waste resources taking a relatively strategically unimportant country.. If the Nazis won they'd basically either surrender or have their entire male population slaughtered.

>>34529019
The only reason the Axis would have invaded Switzerland was to capture the alpine passes leading to Italy. The Swiss knew this and prepared accordingly.

The whole Swiss plan based on the Reduit (redoubt) strategy. It consisted of destroying the Alpine passes and sacrificing all the flat land as well as a good part of the army, while the rest would hold out in alpine fortresses, prohibiting the Germans to rebuild the passes.

Considering that 9 French soldiers and 1 dog could hold a position for 10 days against 5000 Italians and inflicting them 800 casualties, Germany didn't want to try the same against 850'000 Swiss.

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>>34529019
No, absolutely not.

Germans just figured the high casualty rate wouldn't be worth it. At some point, after victory over English and the Soviets, they probably would have invaded anyways, and surely won.

>>34529474
They were surrounded though, how long could they have held out before starvation took its toll?

>>34529527
>At some point, after victory over English and the Soviets, they probably would have invaded anyways, and surely won.
I doubt it. Hitler was not in the habit of unnecessarily invading countries, with the possible exception of the Soviet Union.

Were they practicing universal conscription at the time?

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>>34529617
>Hitler was not in the habit of unnecessarily invading countries
>with the possible exception of the Soviet Union
invasion of the Soviet Union was unnecessary

WEW KOMMISSAR

>>34529665
Don't get me wrong. I definitely support the Germans over the Bolsheviks. I just think they should have waited until Britain was out of the way before they tried to liberate Ukraine.

>>34529617
>literally invaded everything he could get his hands on
U wot?

There is no "unnecessary" invasion in hitler's eyes - the entire world should be part of his reich

>>34529315
>If the Nazis won
The Krauts had about as much chance of winning WWII, than France had to win WWI alone. The whole plane was doomed from the beginning.

Axis: Japan (127m), Germany (82m), Thailand (68m), Italy (60m), Romania (19m), Hungary (9.8m), Austria (8.7m) , Bulgaria (7.1m). Total Population: 381.6m
Allies: USA (325m), Soviet Union (293m), Philippines (100m), France (69m), UK (66m), Poland (39m), Canada (35m), Australia (24m), Taiwan (23m), Yugoslavia (18m, not counting Croatia), Netherlands (17m), Belgium (11m), Greece (11m). Total Population: (1.031b). If we add Communist China (1.3b), then the allies arrive at 2.331b. And we're still not counting India as British colony, or French and British African colonies. And allied countries like Brazil, Cuba, Mexico and Indochina have also not been taken into account.

For the Axis WW2 was a 1 vs. 10 fight, facing an opponent with a larger industrial output, more natural resources, and higher birthrate.

>>34529796
but master race

>>34529528
They would have hold as long as possible. The number of men in the redoubt was pretty low (100k or something like that). The rest would have been more or less sacrificed.

How long could the Axis spare 300 to 500 thousand men, with the Soviet putting pressure on them in the East, the Brits and Burgers in North Africa?

>>34529796
and if uncle adolf had either taken moscow or repelled normandy (which he could have if not for logistical issues) he'd have won
it doesn't matter that china and some other shitholes supported the allies
if hitler had taken the whole of europe the war would stop

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>>34529796
>If we add Communist China (1.3b)
>Communist China
>1937-45.

>>34529774
Wrong. It was the Brits who had invaded the whole world, not the Germans. The Germans only invaded countries that were of strategic necessity to protect the German people. Accusing German of aggression hypocrisy that the sun never sets on.
>>34529796
>Nazis
You mean the Germans. You wouldn't call all Americans Democrats.
>>34529796
If war were a matter of arithmetic, the mathematicians would be kings.
>>34529818
>Germans were racist
That's just American propaganda. It was the Americans, not the Germans, who had racial segregation.

>it's a wehraboo thread
Reminder that Adolf Hitler was a degenerate drug addict and one of the worst strategic minds the world has ever seen. Reminder that your beloved fuhrer admitted that the """aryan race""" was defeated soundly by a bunch of pinko peasants zergrushing them to death.
Reminder that no amount of 'what ifs' and "germany did nothing wrongs" will ever bring back your precious reich or bring another one about.

>>34529905
>taken moscow
Moscow was largely evacuated, and would be a symbolic pyrrhic victory only. The Soviets would continue the war, most of the industry was already beyond the Urals by that time.

Almost all bridges, tunnels and passes would have been destroyed. And the industry would have been sabotaged as well, since most swiss working class citizens were very patriotic (higher class had more nazi supporters)almost all factory supporting the german warmachine would face severe sabotage.

So te germans would have had a massive resistance movement in occupied switzerland

>>34529940
>The Germans only invaded countries that were of strategic necessity to protect the German people.
>literally the whole of europe and parts of russia.

The war would have never taken place had Hitler not lost his fucking marbles.

>>34529973
WW2 would have happened no matter what, everyone involved was a fucking asshole

Fucking delusional Wehraboos. The Axis would never have won WWII. If Hitler had been clever, he would have only attacked the Soviet Union. The USA and UK would even have supported him. But the crazy fuck decided first to attack Western Europe, then the Soviet Union, and because two fucking fronts aren't enough, he opened a third one in North Africa. And he did all that with not enough fuel and no fucking navy.

>>34529914
Learn to read, cunt. Also, if Germany had taken Moscow then the war would simply have continued. France also took Moscow during the Napoleonic wars, the Russians simply burned it and continued the war. To beat the Russians, you must kill every last one of them, which means invading the whole country (which happens to be the largest in the world).

>>34529940
>Nazis
It's a quote from >>34529315, you fucking queer. I wrote Krauts.

>>34530002
>and UK
spotted the eternal anglo

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>>34530007
The master race spilled its spaghetti over the sky of Britain. Then it got rekt one on one in Russia. Finally, it ended up in a brutal gangbang with facial and anal abuse. It got fucked so hard that the modern Germans are all rape babies (hence the love of German women for foreign dicks).

>>34530055
I don't care what happens to kraut nerds just stop shilling your shitty gay island

>>34529019
If you mean join then yeah

>>34530065
While a lot of higher ranking officers supported nazi germany, this wasn't the case with the enlisted personnel (i know they are all conscripts but you get my point) they were very patriotic and after the Rütli-Rapport the view of the officers was also changed

Also we swiss people like to hate the germans, it's almost like a sport to us

>>34529019
That hinges entirely on the condition of the Luftwaffe at the time they invade: without airpower, Switzerland is damn near impossible to breach, to the point that their old-ass WWII fortifications are still effective against modern offenses since mountain warfare has become a lost art only practiced by sand people armed with equivalent weapons.

>>34529528
>They were surrounded though, how long could they have held out before starvation took its toll?

Long enough that the Germans decided "...no better not."

>>34529940
I really hope this is bait lmao.

>>Germans were racist
>That's just American propaganda.

ooer

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I don't get why people claim that Germany could've won, even if they took Moscow >>34529905

First off, the whole invasion of the Soviet Union relied on a swift victory (which didn't happen), the Germans likely thought that, with defeating a large amount of enemy troops, taking Moscow, the Soviets would simply surrender, which they wouldn't. Do note that the whole conception was thanks to the Winter war which gave the Red army a bad rep.

Not only that, but the casualties suffered where too high, even if the managed to defeat the Soviets, Germany would be easy prey for the Western Allies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_3R-Rkn_98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caoxNSNcQZs

Just watch this guys video's since he only quotes from reliable sources which he even states.

Also take a look at pic related, in 6 months of the invasion the German army could hardly be called an offensive force, not to mention that autist Hitler didn't even gear the economy towards war until it was too late (1943), since they all expected the war to be over before Christmas :^)

No. They'd have flattened the main cities and simply attacked the population until they gave up, which would have been quickly. The Germans could annihilate Zurich, Geneva, Basel and St Gallen from their own positions without the Swiss doing anything in retaliation. Look at a map.

Switzerland is, in a sense, quite similar to Germany in that it seems to be under the impression that it can fight a war entirely on its own terms with no deviation from that. Maybe it's a Germanic thing, but much like Germany believed it would conquer the world through Blitzkreig the Swiss were firmly of the opinion that it could defeat any enemy through the use of emplacements and part timers.

>>34529684

>liberate Ukraine

Such country did not even existed at that time, naziboo

>>34529905

>and if uncle adolf had either taken moscow or repelled normandy (which he could have if not for logistical issues)

that wasn`t just logistical issues. Operation Barbarossa was Germany`s death warrant

>>34530362
Why "breach" it at all? Its population lives within a few hundred metres of Austria, France, Italy and Germany. Only Bern is central.

>>34529256
t. reddit

>>34530002
How could he have attacked the soviet union without first invading and conquering poland

Yknow, Poland? The country whose invasion by the Germans obligated the Allies to respond?

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>>34531061
>the Germans likely thought that... the Soviets would simply surrender, which they wouldn't. Do note that the whole conception was thanks to the Winter war which gave the Red army a bad rep

Weren't they also hoping for a revolution against an unpopular and brutal government like in ww1?

Kind of strange how the "Hey guys rebel against your government and in exchange for your support we will starve and massacre all of you" sales pitch didn't work.

>>34529256
Pretty much everyone hates Nazis retard.
You want a cookie?
And stop accusing everyone of being Nazis.

>>34531158

They could have allied with Poland to destroy a common enemy. Hitler was irrational. He vowed never to let Germany fight a 2 front war and he held true to that and started a 3 front war. He was too obsessed with his ideas for an empire.

>>34529019
>Attacking the guy that sells you forex for your jew gold
not even Addi was that stupid

>>34531198
Don't know about that, but it's likely.

Do note that it wasn't just the Germans who thought they would have an easy time with the Soviets, basically the whole world thought they'd surrender in the first months.

Even so, the Germans didn't stand a chance, their army was a glass cannon, a very powerful cannon but one made out of glass.

>>34531158
With the Austrian Anschluss and being allied to Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria, they had an access to Ukraine.

>>34529940
The British had not conquered land for half a century. after the first world war the British and French foreign diplomacy revolved around maintaining the status quo. The Germans purposefully began annexing part of or complete sovereign European nations. there is an argument that Austria is German so okay that is protecting Germans. what about Czechoslovakia? the sudatenland was about 40% German and they got that in the Vienna accords, why the rest?. why the Netherlands? why, if the Germans wanted to unite German land would they not just take Danzig rather than half of Poland? why Norway? why Denmark? why yugoslavia?

Also Germans where racists, or at least white supremacists. yeah Hitler shook hands with black athletes but they still where not part of the end game. they where not welcome in Germany.

>>34529256

Ok then. How's the weather?

>>34531047
pretty much everyone was racist in those days, it doesn't mean shit. the u.s. even had it's own eugenics movements back then.

no way, Switzerland would have caused so many german casualties the war would be over much sooner