I can't decide:
S&W SD 9 VE vs. Polish P-64
P-64 is good quality mil-surp. Price will more than likely go up on them in the future. That would be my choice.
>>34501165
p64s blow, do yourself a favor and get a real makarov instead.
SD9VE out of the choices given so you aren't stuck with 9x18.
I'd say save a little more and get something worthwhile
>>34501165
I owned a p64. I hated it and I love my Makarov.
Buy the smiff. They are a fine Glock copy.
>>34501201
>save a little more and get something worthwhile
>>34501165
sd9ve has horrible dao trigger try renting it 1st if you can
if you want an awesome low budget 9m look at ruger 9e, way better trigger
>>34501165
>S&W SD 9 VE
All day, no contest really. It's basically a S&W branded block pistol.
>>34501217
Out of the choices given, I assume they were picked for economic reasons instead of the very mild collectability of the p64. The SD9VE has literally no redeeming factors other than being a cheap copy of a glock. I'd still pick it over the p64 though
going to go with a makarov. didn't realize the SW was so shitty. thought it was just a cheaper version of a shield.
Thanks everyone
>>34501385
Personally I hate the stock grips on the P64.
You may want to consider getting an aftermarket one.
I got a few in the mail right now.
>>34501165
Save up a bit more and get a Makarov instead
>>34501165
p64 is more concealable but trigger is bitch, ve jams every once in a while. Get a bulgarian makarov.
If you want polish pistol, only VIS. If you must choose between polish makarov and SD9VE, the second one should be your choice.
>>34501385
P64 isn't a mak, and good luck finding mags and parts for it
>>34501385
They're not shitty. Not by far. They're just your standard "entry level" handgun.
4chaners tend to think of things in duality: It's either shit, or it's great.
The trigger is not the best, no. But it is a perfectly servicable, reliable handgun.
>>34501165
You can get one of these for about $270. Better than a SD9VE.
>>34502179
Forgot the pic
>>34501165
things you should know about the P64
>It is not a Makarov it is a Radom
>you WILL have to replace the hammer spring
>you may want a stronger recoil spring as well
I have a P64 and love the thing. That being said I am also a poorfag and it is one of my only handguns. The DA trigger pull is legitimately ridiculous. Springs are pretty cheap and easy to replace. I got mine from Wolff gunsprings
>>34502187
allah akbar my "moderate ally."
>>34501385
>SW was so shitty
are you retarded? literally every post was telling you to stay away from memeshit and buy the S&W.
>>34503620
i will second this.
the p64 is a great gun after you swap the hammer spring.
Mine shoots so well, i think it is the fixed barrel but i can just hit everything with it.
only issue i had was the 2 half's of the grip do not line up in the back and was hard on my palm.
had to wear gloves to short more than a mag.
but that is probably just mine.
What everyone else is saying.
The P64 looks nice, but it's no fun to shoot, and holds two less rounds than a proper Makarov. Plus, it isn't really all that smaller or lighter than the Mak.
The SD9VE or Ruger 9E are both much better than the P64.
>>34501165
>no mention of Bersa ITT