/mzlg/ Muzzleloader General

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>>34497397
Most of my guns are muzzleloaders
So far I have a Remington 1858 made by Pietta, a CVA wolf rifle, two off brand derringers, and I'm looking to buy any other odd muzzle loaders.

>>34497694
Damn man, nice!

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Here's my baby.

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Second view.

>>34497722
>Remington 1858
That baby is nice! How much was it?

oops, no idea how that remington thing got in my post

>>34497739
My Wolf? $160 shipped straight to my door from Bud's, and another $99 for a Nikon Buckmasters II scope from Amazon.

>>34497752
Oh, damn. Pretty good price

>>34497756
It's a weird experience getting a rifle delivered right to your door with no paperwork. Feels like freedom, meng.

>>34497779
Haha, I bet

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I post my collection every bp thread, so I'm sure everybody's sick of it by now. I feel obligated to do it though.

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>>34498793
Also, I've since converted my kentucky pistol to flintlock.

>>34498793
What's third from the bottom? Looks like a SAA grip.

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Also, I said I was going to share the results of a stupid experiment that I did. The rail I had 3d printed actually held zero while I was shooting and was pretty damn fun. The rear wedge area de-laminated after about 20 shots, but it was great while it lasted. I'm thinking of getting one made out of aluminum or steel one day.

>>34498812
Uberti 1858 Remington steel frame.

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>>34498812
1858 Remington.

Here's a picture of my 1851 Navy

>>34498837
Oh, alright. I'm rather dumb, couldn't see the cylinder for whatever reason. I know there are single shot cartridge pistols with a SAA-style grip and thought it might have been a percussion version of that idea.

I own a Uberti 1851 Navy London myself.

>>34498862
That's one sexy gun, my friend.

I believe i'll be getting an 1851 Navy repro in sept from a family member, raising my number of handfuns to a whopping 2

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Here's a picture of an original 1851 that belonged to my great great great grandfather.

It was made in 1858 and was a US military gun.

I want to get a stock for my 1851 but they cost more than the gun itself.

>>34498909
Oh damnit, why would you bring the existence of such a thing to my attention? Now I want one too.

>>34498913
you dont even need an sbr tax stamp either

I constantly hear people say stuff along the lines of "You HAVE to make sure that the ball is against the powder! Right against it! It'll be a pipe bomb!"

I don't really understand how this works. Is an inch gap between the powder and ball really something that can be catastrophic?

>>34497397
what do you want to know? i have a handful

>>34499055
The extra space in the chamber allows for more oxygen to be present in the combustion. Because of the way it deflagrates, air pockets can cause pressure spikes which may push up to or past the barrel's limits. It's not always going to be awful, and of course varies from case to case, but for best results and safety you should always do your best to seat the ball on the powder charge as close as possible.

>>34497722
kill it with fire!!!!!! seriously i dont get the attraction to these abominations. if you want a muzzleloader for the hunting season advantage just get a quality replica of a old period piece. this synthetic stock with chink scope and single-shot break shotgun action looks like garbage to me

>>34499110
It's not a property of more oxygen, just more air. When ignited without being fully confined, the powder starts burning and expanding. This increases the surface area massively with increases the burn rate massively also. This then increases the pressure massively, which feeds back into increasing the burn rate, a vicious cycle, in the literal sense

>>34499143
With low explosives like black powder, more oxygen does come into play. The reaction increases in speed as more oxygen is introduced. There are a lot of reasons why more space between your bullet and powder is a bad idea.

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Pennsylvania long rifle anyone?

>>34499176
Theoretically of course, however the molar fraction of O2 present in a 1" gap in a barrel is inconsequential compared to the factors I mentioned, like a fraction of a %, not to mention the oxidation potential of air compared to the density of the KNO3 oxidiser is also minuscule. I could calculate it, if you'd like

>>34499187
holy fuck yes, do you have one? i want one so bad but dont know much about them, did the originals have rear sights? i was looking at pedersoli, they are the only replica i have found so far that seems trustworthy.

also what caliber to get, isnt it true the real ones were small caliber to save money? the modern replicas are in 50, not sure if i want something thats not historically accurate

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>>34499227
Contributions to the few and far between black powder threads are always nice.

>>34499237
They were made in all sorts as low as in the .20's and as high as in the .60's, but the most prolific were in the .40 caliber range. A .45 caliber one would fit the part the best.

>>34499286
what caliber would common men have used during the revolutionary war? would 32 be considered too small for war? did the militia have any minimum requirements for caliber?

>>34499314
Those smaller ones were preferred because frontiersman liked to use less lead with each shot. A .32 would be a great size that was common for that reason while still being able to take big game like deer.

>>34499314
As far as the milita goes, I couldn't help you with that. It was really down to the individual groups and I don't believe they upheld a standard in caliber so much as requiring a weapon and ammunition.

are these guys any good?

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PELD.shtml


anyone know of a source for flintlock pistols thats period correct for revolutionary war

Bumping because I want to see this thread later.