/meg/ Military Enlistment General

Just started thinking about enlisting in the Navy. I was wondering what jobs I should go for. Was thinking about learning a second language so hopefully they'd station me in cool places.
I'm going to read some of the OP stuff, but was wondering if I'd be on land any. What are the chances id be able to pick where to go? Not to sound like an autistic weeaboo, but I heard Okinawa was a pretty cool place, and it's where two of my friends met their spouses.
I'm 20.
I'm not joining just to be a tourist, so don't get the wrong idea, I want to learn a skill and be a hopeful to my country

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>>34495935

>>34496321

>Was thinking about learning a second language so hopefully they'd station me in cool places.

The better you are at a language, the more likely you spend your career in a basement stateside translating intelligence. Forward deployed interpreters are generally just hired locals or native-born people from that area.

>>34496385
Maybe people don't want to be staring at nigger ass the time the thread is alive

>>34496385
that thread is going to be deleted because it has porn as OP and it's clearly a shill/troll thread

>>34496321
>what jobs should I go for
Crypto rates
CTI, CTN, etc
you have to do pretty well on the ASVAB and then take the DLAB and then they will send you to monterey CA for language school
you have to be able to get a TS clearance

What's the best MOS for a 21 year old hoping to become a special agent for the FBI by the time they're 28? I was thinking one of the 35's or a 68w cause medical experience seems fun but my original plan 2 years ago was 12b

>>34496749
No joke, if you want to join the FBI, you'd have better like transferring in through the police force.

So, choose an MOS that will get you into the police force

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I become an RAAF Operational Air Intelligence Analyst, what am I in for?

>>34496841
That's good to hear that was a possible plan because hear in NJ at least military experience is a huge boost to get into a police force and my plan was either go that route or use GI Bill to get school for something the useful for the FBI and either pick up extra work experience from an MOS and networking in the army

Is 74D a decent MOS? I'm planning on going with that in the reserves for the hazmat credentials and then go into professional firefighting with the reserves as a side bitch. (There's a local department that is desperate for new hires, a whole chunk of older employees are reaching the end of their careers physically and are retiring, so I'm virtually guaranteed to get in. That, and I'm one first name basis with the EMT director for the department and have had family members in the department).

>>34496935
Completely forgot to add that I was curious if there were better MOS's, (or rather, more applicable), for this line of use that were available.

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>>34496726
Not that anon but I heard that CT's have the chance to be deployed with SEALs, is there any truth to that?
Second question, which of the CT rates would allow you to get out from behind a desk more often. I dont mind desk work, but id also like to get on a ship and see the world too.

>>34496929
That sounds good, I'm glad you've done some research into this. From what I've seen, the police that get to join the FBI are ones that had numerous interactions with them. A common portion of the FBI that interacts with police would be the JTTF, and that's a pretty damn good gig if you can handle the constant paranoia and pessimism

>>34496885

Care to explain? have you graduated?

>>34496749
https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/legal-and-law-enforcement/criminal-investigations-special-agent.html

Control+F "new recruits"

Requires Bachelor's, but you can go right in the Army as an agent.

There is no better way to do, trust me.

That said, get the FBI out of your head. There are dozens of federal agencies that have 1811 series criminal investigators, including civilian CID Agents for the Army. FBI hired 1 out of every 50 qualified applicants. It's an over exposed agency and shooting just for that one is a pipe dream.

>>34497102
From High School or Uni? I have completed Year 10 so i can join but i'd rather go to Uni first

I'm in the middle of med school applications. One of the schools I am applying to is the Uniformed Services University. Physically, I'm just an incredibly average person who doesn't go out of my way to work out or anything. What kind of exercises should I do between now and next August so I can survive basic training?

>>34497115
Run a shitload.

It's 90% cardio.

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Submitted my packet a week or so ago for Army OCS, when should I expect to hear something? This is the first OCS packet my recruiting office has done and I'm starting to get worried.

>>34497132
The boards shouldn't be until September, so in two months? Did your recruiters tell you literally nothing?

>>34497120
What are some "good" run times to shoot for?

>>34497114
Ah I thought you meant you will become one, and now want to know what you definitely in for. Also, work on your grammer.

>>34497154
>Also, work on your grammer.
>Worrying about grammar on a Taiwanese basket weaving forum

But i was being hypothetical, i'm asking what sort of stuff i would be doing if i went into this role.

>>34497149
10 minute 2 miles.

Never settle for good. Only the best.

>>34497005
Thanks for the info I didn't know about that but it seems like if I go the leo route I should shoot for nypd since it's easy to get in last time I talked to a Manhattan cop and JTTF is there a lot it said looking it up just now

>>34497108
This is also great info I never even noticed this MOS when looking through the list, honestly my aim was between Special Agent, US Marshall or even secret service since they all have similar requirements and my time I want to spend in the army could be beneficial to all

>>34496749
>What's the best MOS for a 21 year old hoping to become a special agent for the FBI by the time they're 28?

College student.

>>34497149
>>34497115
push ups and situps
you want to be able to do 100/100 in one set
work on pull-ups as well
work up to 100/100 in sets of 20

>>34497220
CID essentially does the jobs of the FBI and DEA for the Army, and if you attend the Protective Service's Battalion, the USSS. Basic quals aside, these agencies care about experience. Experience, experience, experience. Joining a police force isn't going to get you what you need unless you put in the time to become a detective and start doing some heavy lifting. They don't really care for street cops.

If you want a better idea of what I mean, check out officer.com and the law enforcement job center. Tons of local cops trying to get federal gigs, and few do in my experience. It's mostly vets with college.

The FBI is overrated anyway dude. It's an office job. Check out HSI and their Special Agents, they do the street work now-a-days and frequently augment the Secret Service.

>>34496972
>Not that anon but I heard that CT's have the chance to be deployed with SEALs, is there any truth to that?

I did a CI analytics course at CENTCOM with some IS guys who were attached to NSW a few years ago. They said that they got to tag along for a lot of the cool training but while deployed they did their job.

>>34497179

I was taking the piss, you could've phrased it better though. Maybe not on anime forum but you'd think any intelligence branch would value details and accuracy. Also the nature of any intelligence is keeping it secure. If you're more asking day to day life then I cant say as I'd like to know myself. Im thinking of enlisting myself but Im a fair bit older.

Anyway

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/airforce/jobs/SignalsAirIntelligenceAnalyst/

Best I got. Some advice - i focused on tech far too late at school and it slowed me down as I had to catch up. Research the fields beyond your subjects for what career paths they have and the value of those subjects in reality. Every teacher thinks their subject is more important, but I found it was the ones who didnt beat their chest were more-so and often - better teachers.

>>34497350
I have all the prerequisites for this position (General Maths, English, 1 Science and rudimentary IT skills) I'd rather go to Uni first though if i were to do it.

>>34497422
I think you're aiming low desu with intelligence analyst. See how good you are with maths and physics and look into air traffic control, just a thought.

Be prepared for year 12. The lesson I learnt is that it was 11 years of school to prepare you for year 12, which is when you learn on an adult level.

>>34497474
> maths and physics

I have hopes of doing a methods bridging course but i am abysmal at both of these, i am quite ok at General Maths but i am awful when it gets more serious. Are there other pathways?

At the same time i could become an Intel Officer but i don't think i have the aptitude.

>>34497286
Sadly I haven't started schooling yet since graduating so I feel I'd rather go through ROTC if I were to try for CID but I appreciate the advice on the HSI I never even considered that and it covers the same bases that I'd want to be dealing with as an FBI special agent so I'll research some more into that

>>34497495
NP, but know CID is enlisted and warrant only. OSI for the Air Force has commissioned officers but that's another animal. You can also enlist into another Army MOS and transfer to CID with 60 college credits but I don't know how difficult that may be. Good luck

Are seabees overmanned? If I go to my recruiter and say I will only take a seabed rate will he just laugh at me? Also will having skills related to your desired rate help at all, or do they not care?

>>34497524
Why would they laugh at you for asking? Contact a recruiter and find out.

Also, grandfather was one of the first Seabees during the war.

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>>34496749
Don't listen to that fucking fool. Nearly any MOS will help you greatly in regards to getting into the FBI. They want people who are knowledgeable and competent. The hiring process takes more than a year and it's tough. You need to be on your A game. And if you fail to join the FBI, they will make you down and you'll have a 60% chance at failing at any other Federal agency job. Best get your shit together.
As for a good MOS for the FBI, it all depends on the field you want to work in. I would say the 35 series is strong but that's up to you. 35P and 35M you must pass the DLAB test which is hard as fuck. I signed up for the Army in the 14 series and got a 40k signing bonus since I chose a 6 year contract. I too wanted to join the FBI but fuck that noise. I'll go officer and be far happier for it.

>>34497576
>And if you fail to join the FBI, they will make you down and you'll have a 60% chance at failing at any other Federal agency job

Ignore this fucking retard

>>34497143
Thanks, I ask them questions and they say "I'll look into it for you."

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>>34497599
prove me wrong you neckbeard cunt.
>protip: you can't

>>34497634

Burden of proof is on you to show me the police that says not getting hired by the FBI somehow blacklists you from getting hired from other agencies.


If it makes you feel better, not only would you have never gotten into the FBI you won't get into OCS either.

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What's a trade in the Navy that will let me be stationed in cool places for most of the time?

>>34497710
what cool places do you want to be in?

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>>34497681
I don't have to prove a damn thing to anyone, especially on the internet, and 4chan of all places. But I will entertain you for the fuck of it. Once you apply to the FBI you have a permanent record build. So anything following your application process is with you for life. Fact.
A national agency check will reveal what happened in that process. If you fail and any other federal agency requests this check they will see why you failed. This hurts your chances of joining another federal agency as I specified earlier >>34497576.

>>34497710
You'll get stationed in norfolk dont do it

I'm looking into Air Force or Army, I am thinking of a prior service thing, like going into the Air Force for 4+ years and then switching into the Army if the Air Force isn't for me. Is it a good move? Or should I stick to one branch, heard it may be harder to rank up if you do prior service.

>>34497904
>Or should I stick to one branch
stick with one branch dude, also it's hard as fuck to rank up the AF considering the amount of personnel they have compared to the Army

>>34497904
Only if you let the recruiter ass fuck you hard while calling you a bitch. The branches give you a hard time for prior enlistment but if you find a chill individual who cares about you and wants you to server within their department, then the process is easy and you should transfer as you were before. I started with the army and after my short contract I am switching to the Chair Force. They have better food and living quarters.

>>34497875
The only fucking possible thing you could be referring to is failing a polygraph. This is a widely discussed topic on actual federal law enforcement forums and failing it with one agency does NOT disqualify you with other agencies. In fact, quite a few agencies don't even administer them anymore, including ICE/HSI. So unless you infiltrated FBI HQ in Quantico and took a shit on Comey's desk, your "advice" is totally fucking stupid because it's irrelevant.

The FBI passing you over for other candidates won't effect your eligibility at other agencies. Every 1811 applies to multiple agencies. It's the only viable way of getting hired since the processes are long and unpredictable. I personally applied to several, including the FBI, and wrote all of them off until I get an offer from the postal inspectors which I declined because I was doing other shit at that point.

Have fun in the 14 series for the next 6 years, maybe stick to being an expert in that.

>>34497926
I also wanted to ask that, is it really that hard to earn rank in the Air Force?
>>34497942
What made you switch to the Air Force? why not stay with the Army? Any advice for me? just graduated high school at 18 and want to do military.

>>34497904
Ignore >>34497926 as he doesn't seem to know shit about shit. The ARMY is the largest branch in the US Armed Forces. http://us-military-branches [dot] insidegov.com/compare/1-3/Army-vs-Air-Force

As >>34497942 said, I'd go ARMY first because you can pick your job and rank up fast. Get some experience and see how you feel at the nearing of your contract and go from there. The Air Force is a wonderful branch to work for but you have shitters wherever you go. Pick a good trade that can carry you outside of the military if you hate it.

>>34497209
Thanks for the time, but my primary goal is to be a physician, not some kind of hi speed specops.

>>34497576
>Nearly any MOS
Good fucking luck as a cook in the FBI fucking kek you're retarded.

If you want to go FBI go intel. Don't do minimum 4 years though you'll just look like a shitbag.

>>34497723
>>34497885
Japan, Ireland, Poland, Iceland, Greenland
And what do you mean?

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>>34497955
>does NOT disqualify
I said it'll hurt your chances greatly. Fact
>In fact, quite a few agencies don't even administer
A few compared to how many federal agencies? Jesus man, it's like you want to argue for the sake of arguing. It's okay to admit I'm right and you're wrong. You fucked up by not taking that federal agent job. You can make over 6 figures with that and it's fucking easy as hell
>someone stole muh mail
You carry a weapon and you mostly knock on doors. gg no re son

>>34497977
>Nearly any MOS
>picks out cook
>nearly
Went right over your head huh? Real military personnel shit talk being a cook. Although it offers very little in respect to combat and key knowledge a "field agent" would need, as long as you have a BA and that "COOK" experience, you'd have a better chance at getting in than someone who just had their BA. Anything else?

>>34497990 Navy puts you where they want to, don't believe anything anyone else will tell you about picking. Majority of billets will land you in Virginia usually Norfolk. Nobody likes NOB my dude. Japan has the highest chance out of the ones you would like, Ive got several buddies stationed there. For the rest good luck.

>>34497965
I found this help very useful, thanks I really needed to clear my head and make a decision, I'll look into joining the Army, I have 2 cousins and a brother in so I'll fit along nicely. Appreciate the help.

>>34498001
Neither would get hired. Relevant experience is a thing

>>34498001
Miss the part about intel did ya? Of course you did. Obviously real military personnel talk shit about being a cook or CS or whatever you prefer to call it. Why? because it is SHIT. No CS with 4 years minimum or FUCK even a CSC with 20+ years with a BA stands a chance at getting into the FBI. Get out of here with your bullshit.

>>34497960
I am >>34497942
I didn't switch yet but I plan on doing so. The "Chair Force" is more "mission" oriented and because of that, life is far easier than other military branches. Being in a combat job puts a lot of stress on your body, especially being airborne certified. You'll end up shorter if you go Airborne I guarantee it. But I digress.
For anyone who actually reads this shit and isn't faking it, the military offers great benefits of enlistment. Full medical, dental, schooling (while active duty mind you, so you're getting paid and you get to go to school) housing and food. Every bit of money you make goes to w/e bills you have. IF you're smart you'll open a TSP. If you're intelligent you'd create an IRA or a Mutual Fund. High Risk for a high reward, though you'll be taxed high it's far better than low risk.

>>34498038
Not true at all. You don't need to be DELTA to join the fucking FBI. Ace their requirements posted on their website and all that's left is you vs your peers. Having that "COOK" experience will help over someone who doesn't as I stated before.

>>34498061
>You were in the military huh? What did you do?
>Oh you were a cook.....
>Sorry but we're gonna go with the guy straight out of college instead

>>34498043
I didn't respond to the intel jab because it doesn't matter to me. I am over my childhood dream of joining the FBI. In fact, it doesn't matter where I end up as long as I maintain a federal job. My pension goes with me so time in will just get added wherever I go. If I don't go WO (which I can't say I know for sure as I'm not an NCO yet, so I have no idea about the feels) I plan on going officer and taking it as far as possible. I chose 14 series because I'm not a fucking idiot. My MOS paid me 40k to enlist and I don't need to go before a board for promotion. TIS = free ranks up to E-6. I wouldn't have it any other way. I enlisted as an E-3 based on my college credits.

>>34498061
1 out of 50 hired for FBI 1811 gigs. 1 out of 50. And you are telling me about minimum quals?

Thinks a cook with a B.A. would get hired. Holy shit /meg/ has gone to shit.

>>34498094
FUCKING THANK YOU SOMEONE WITH SOME FUCKING SENSE.

>>34498086
Arguing with an Army E3 about the FBI. Fucking kek guys knock it off

>>34498086
Are you a SME? If so good luck with getting WO.

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>>34498036
welcome to /k/. IF you really want to join the military, why not head into each branch's recruiting office and talk to them? Let them know right off the bat you're not there to sign anything. You just want to know what they offer in regards to enlistment. I'm pretty sure the Army is the only branch that lets you choose your MOS. Granted you score high enough. Study the ASVAB and watch videos online about possible jobs you're interested in and boot camp for each branch. Best of luck

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>>34498121
Navy will also let you pick your "rate" (same thing as MOS but the navy has to be special) Although like army depends on ASVAB score. Whatever you want though will likely end up with you on the delayed entry program for a decent amount of time.

>>34498146
I'm not sure about that anon. I went into a navy officer the other day and the chick told me they don't hire for anything specific nor can you choose. It's based on your score. Her example was "if you score very high you'll probably get Nuclear Power" and aint no body got time for that.

>>34498121
The thing is I was originally DEP'd for the Marines with a ship date in Nov. but they wanted to pull an open contract on me and shit, also they were unprofessional as fuck, they took future marines to strip clubs, I'm not being a pussy or anything but I didn't like that of them. So I am left with Air Force or Army, scored decent on ASVAB, 71 with good line scores plus I took a lot of advice from family in the military.

>>34498121
I DO NOT want to join the Navy or Coast Guard, just wanted to say.

>>34498155
It's highly possible things may have changed since I joined. I had multiple options based on what I scored. Had I chosen the rate I really wanted I would have had to wait over a year before going to basic and I wasn't having that, I wanted to go ASAP so I picked whatever sent me the fastest.

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>>34498114
Subject Matter Expert? I'd become a 140K or 140L if that's what you're asking

Can get into any branch with hard drug usage in my past but with no legal issues. Also can the U.S. Military access files that are protected under HIPPA?

>>34498170
Coast gaurd aint even DoD ;) I love fucking with those guys. All in goood fun.

>>34498155
that's BS
they can't force you into the nuke program
they also can't force you to sign for anything
they will try to get you to take rates they are deficient in, but again, they can't make you sign. All you have to do is refuse and wait.

>>34498185
>no legal issues
...maybe
> can the U.S. Military access files that are protected under HIPPA?
yes
in signing onto the military you waive your confidentiality

>>34498185
When you go to MEPS you sign a legal document stating the GOV can request medical records at any time. This is legal and bound to you, but they won't do anything with it I promise. If you have something to hide, you say no to everything but line 14.C which is "yes I am healthy" on your physical form. When you're at MEPS you say the same shit. No to everything but 14.C and stick to your guns

>>34498214
This. Basically your recruiters will tell you. Lie lie lie, hide hide hide. If you don't want them to know about it and they have no way of finding out. You don't mention it.

>>34498209
Accurate. When you are at MEPS they will make it seem like you HAVE to decide on one of the rates they have available. You do not.

>>34498165
As a couple anons have pointed out before, the best branch is the branch that lets you pick your job imo. Army seems to be the way to go

>>34498214
If I was in the psych ward once for less than 24hrs will that DQ me? It was just meth scratches but they thought it was something worse.

>>34498225
Are there legal consequences for me hiding non criminal stuff?

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>>34498242
Yup it does
>>34498254
You can go to prison and be fined heavily. You're lying on a fucking federal application. (FELONY)

>>34498260
Any way to change that or am i barred forever? Well fucking yay then.

>>34498192
The CG is a small ass branch of the DoHS. But those dudes train as hard as Marines do. Gotta give them respect for being put to the hardest boot camp regimen

>>34498264
You can lie, but the doctors at MEPS are going to be going over your entire body thoroughly. If you have a small amount of eczema on your face they will postpone your application process till you have written proof from a doctor that you're fit for duty.

>>34498185

Government CAN access those records, but probably won't depending on the level of security clearance you're requesting and what job you're going for. A regular secret clearance ain't shit and they almost certainly won't pull your medical records. If you plan on going SF or some Intel job then they might. For those jobs they pull your credit too, and if you have anything in collections (like an ambulance ride or medical bills) an investigator would be more likely to pull those just to find out why you were there and they would find out about your illicit substance use.

The good news is most hospitals destroy their records after a certain period of time. Join the military and work some lesser job until that time passes, then call the hospital and confirm they destroyed your records then apply for the position that requires a TS clearance. This will probably be a decade, but your older self will thank you for not being a dumb as now and outing yourself for lying on a government document and having them find out about your drug use and precluding yourself from any future employment.

To reiterate, a job that does not require a clearance, or a job which requires a simple secret clearance, will probably not uncover your medical records. They will probably find out about credit situation, though. They pulled my credit for my secret clearance, and I had medical bills and for a drug overdose nonetheless, but they never pulled my medical records. This was in 2007, though, when the government merely needed bodies and a LOT of people were joining so investigators probably half-assed their job.

>>34498291
Skin graft time then.

>>34498274
No doubt no doubt. That's the fun in being part of the military we all give each other shit :) They may not be DoD but I respect the fuck out of those guys.

>>34498254
>>34498260
Like he said. It is a felony. Lots of people lie though (This is not me saying you SHOULD lie. Just that people DO lie and get away with it. Just know if you're going for certain clearances you will have very in depth background investigations done on you so be careful) honesty is the best policy. That way you can get waivers.

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>>34498324
The chances the GUBMENT pulls your medical records are the same as a woman becoming the US president. Credit History? You're right on that. It should be the only thing your recruiter pressures you about. Anything negative on your credit report will fuck you in regards to a TS clearance. They don't want plebs that can be bribed easily. If any of you nerd lords have a medical record you best lie about it.

>>34498324
My credit is completely clean, I have no credit history and everything related to drugs would be on my parents credit.

>>34498413

Good lad. Just lie, then. You've never done drugs, not even tried marijuana once. Stick to that lie no matter what for the rest of your life, no matter which jobs you apply for or if a polygraph is a possibility. Polygraphs are bullshit, check out The Lie Behind The Lie Detector.

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>>34498331
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>First girlfriend of 5 years I thought I was going to marry left me for another man on a dime
>No more living family left
>No friends
>Living alone
>Can't find motivation to work 9 to 5 job anymore
What branch would be good for me to enlist in?
My grandfather who was a CMSgt in the Air Force always told me when he was alive that the military would take care of me if I had no other options in life. He told me that any of the branches would.
I'm young, 23 years old, 5'5", I had high hopes to build a family at a young age but now that that option is gone for the time I need something to do with my life.
The loneliness is killing me. Can barely eat, can barely sleep, but I'm still in shape.

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>>34498578
>joining the military because you gf left you
Marines would probably suit you the best. Filled with retards so you would fit right in

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>>34498744
Nah man, that's just the straw that broke the camels back here.
It's the fact that I have nobody in my life at this point, that's pushing me towards the military. Had I any family or maybe some friends and she left me, then it would have been an entirely different story.
I own a house, working full time, but with no one to share my life with it all just seems worthless.
Always thought that maybe I could feel some sense of family or brotherhood in the military.

>>34498324
>The good news is most hospitals destroy their records after a certain period of time.
The additional good news is most health shit is only investigated 7 years into the past.

I've got a question.
I am currently in AFROTC, just finished my Freshman year, but my GPA was too bad and I lost my scholarship, so I am considering joining the Oregon Air Natl Guard and taking a year off of school+ROTC to save some money up and get the ANG benefits. I can't afford school without the scholarship, and I am from California so ANG will qualify me for in state tuition.
I have been in contact with an ANG recruiter in Oregon, and I am trying to get as much paperwork done as I can before I go back to Oregon because I'm home in Cali for the summer.
As part of qualifying for the scholarship I am about to lose, I went through and passed DODMERB. There are a few issues that I needed to get medical records for, but all of my paperwork was submitted and I don't even remember filing a waiver application.
After answering the pre-enlistment medical questionnaire over the phone with the recruiter, he said that with all of the issues I've had, that I would never make it through MEPs. I asked what my best plan of action would be, and he said that I should go into his office when I get back to Oregon and we will discuss it then.
I know that he's gonna suggest that I withhold certain information from MEPs. The problem is that I already shared the issues with DODMERB.
If I passed DODMERB, why would I fail MEPS?
Please any advice you have would be appreciated.

Posting from my phone so format is probably trash.

>>34499070
You got me beat anon. I have no idea wtf DODMERB is nor do I care to google it. If you have medical issues MEPS is going to ruin you. Number 1 reason people fail MEPS is medical. You better start learning how to walk like a duck, talk like a duck, and smell like a duck if you want to get in. (pun intended, you must do the duck walk to pass MEPS)

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>>34499182
Anon...

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>all these truth tellers
Don't provide what you don't have to provide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SFpbpwNndI

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>>34499219
w-wut?
>>34499300
to whom are you referring to?

>>34497993
Can you even read? He said he declined the postal inspectors job

>>34496935

Generally considered one of the worst Army jobs. You won't get HAZMAT credentials.

>>34498324
>find out about your drug use

Assuming you don't have some formal record of this and aren't some moron that posted pictures of yourself hitting a bong on Facebook, there isn't really a way for them to find that out.

>>34499346
Can you read you incompetent fucking cunt?
>You fucked up by not taking that federal agent job
Go back to grade school pleb

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Navy SARC or Air Force SARC? Which is more effective?

HAHAHAHHahbahahahaha

I fucking failed the duck walk at MEPS
KILL ME

>>34499425
USAF has waivers, just get a waiver

>>34499417
aah so this is where the bara fetish comes from.

>>34498155
She was full of shit. Goddamn women are retarded

>>34496885
Getting paid a fuck of money to stare at computer screens all day.

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Man, I don't understand any of these anagrams.

I talked to a navy recruiter when I was getting kicked out of the house, took the asvab and did really well, but now I am not sure I wanna go in the navy. I have a full tuition scholarship to college, and I kinda wanna go to college before I join, and I brought that up to my recruiter. He went off on a tangent on how it really isn't all that better to join with a degree because I still probably wouldn't be an officer, etc. I still kinda wanna send my asvab and med records to meps because I wanna see if I can even join(i've had a few surgeries and concussions), but I am still unsure if I want to join at all. A big part of me wants to ditch the military entirely and just go full autist mode in college so I can get a scholarship to law school, but another part of me wants to join the navy and see the world while having homosex with qt mascs on the open ocean. What do, /meg/?

>>34498155
That is bs. If you score high enough on your asvab(read: if you are smarter than a concussed downie) then you can choose any rating you want as an enlisted guy in the navy, including the nuke program if you decide you want to start a slow downward spiral into apathy and eventually suicide.

I'm already in the military but can someone tell me EXACTLY how much trouble you'd get in for forging your commander's signature on a state tuition waiver...?

I won't be able to get to him in time for the fall semester

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Any ROTC guys here? Specifically Navy? Currently MIDN 2/c on track for aviation.

>>34498784
military will fill your time but not give you purpose, you need to find purpose for yourself based on your moral values. Figure out what your talents are get a new girl that compliments you as a person and continue to grow.

I was wondering if I'm hoping to end up with an MOS with security clearance should I tell them about a differred disposition from trespassing when I was 15 from the start or just keep it on the low same as all the pot I never smoked in high school?

So since meg says becoming an officer is a time consuming mess and I need a job now, how easy is it to become an officer if I go in as enlisted now? Is there any length of time or rank I would need to become an officer? Or is about the connections I make?

>>34499417
Why aren't their faces blurred

Best Navy rate for travel and getting a job afterwards?

>>34498351
When you say negative things on a credit report, what are you talking about? Large debts? If you miss a few bill payments but pay them off quickly afterward are you still fucked?

Is future soldier training mandatory? I haven't attended it once since it's always at 9 am and I work.

Where's a good place to ask SeaBee veterans about the opportunities as an officer?
I was recommended to try facebook but the only active one is locked only to veterans of the service. I like the opportunities that I've heard, but I just want to make sure it's not all bullshit

>>34501949
>Is future soldier training mandatory? I haven't attended it once since it's always at 9 am and I work.

I didn't go. But it was mostly because I was at wrestling practice. Outside of wrestling season I just didn't feel like it. But that was 2006 so I don't know if the recruiters even gave a fuck tbqh.

going in as an 11b, give me a quick rundown on how fucked i am

>>34502559
Kiss the cartilage in your knees goodbye.

>>34501779
Travel: something on a ship
Job:Something on computers
Travel and a job: Something on a computer on a ship
Or seabee rates

I'm thinking about making real bad decisions and trying to get some kinda infantry role, which would be the worst decision: memerines or armeme

>>34502702
Marines, hand down.

This isn't a debate.

>>34502702
Protip, go air force or navy.

>>34502771
I thought about it but it would drive me crazy working a desk job unless I was doing piloting or something else exciting

>>34502763
Why is it so much worse?

>>34502810
Same job except you get paid less and treated like human waste

>>34502821
>paid less
Well that's all the incentive I need to not do it

How much space do you get in the navy, not on a ship? Oculus Rift is $400 now and I want it, but I am going to sign my papers in a few days. Don't want it for a few weeks and then never take it out for 5 years once I reach my duty station

>>34502836
Paid less means you won't be promoted as fast. The base pay between branches are the same.

>>34502881

Different branches also have different incentive pay, different norms for BAH/BAS, and different bonuses.

Does anything scream "give me attention" more than wearing your cammies out in public?

>>34503055
Yes.

Wearing dress blues in public

Should I go 35F or should I talk to the Chair Force?

Kinda wanna live cushy but trying to not land a desk job.

>>34503061
>people at my job know I'm going to be leaving next year for boot camp
>tell them I'll come back to visit them after
>"Oh make sure to wear your dress blues so we can take pictures!"

>>34503123
Pls don't

>>34503167
I really don't want to.

>>34503087

>Cushy

>Not a desk job

Pick one

>>34503187
I'm sort of in the same situation as you
>got back from meps last week, all ready for boot camp
>told my parents about it
>told them not to put any shit on Facebook because I want to be low key about joining
>not even an hour later they posted on Facebook I'm joining the marines
>coworkers want me to visit them in my dress blues after boot

Fuck you mom, and fuck this shit.

>>34503243
That's my thing, is there one I should prioritze above the other?

Is 35F mentally stimulating?

>>34503248
I'm proud as fuck about what I'm doing but I don't want to be one of those people who gets out of boot and becomes motarded.

What makes it worse is that some of the older ladies I work with have been like mothers to me.

>taking orders from niggers

Welfare queen cucks actually do this.

How difficult is Air Assault School? Has anyone here go through it?

>>34499548
I thought they just looked large because of the equipment

>>34496136
Does history of self harm affect my chances of getting into the marines/army?

>>34503602
It gives you a 0% chance.

What should I wear whenever I meet my recruiter? Also how do I let him know I only want one rate and am not interested in any other ones without sounding like an asshole

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>>34503648
Any loopholes, I got like a 92 on my ASVAB. I wanna do something with my life.

>>34503760
No you don't. You wouldn't have "self harmed"

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>>34503813
>>34503648
>>34503760
>>34503602
>tfw I cut myself when I was younger but it was only bitch cuts so none of my scars show

>>34503602
>>34503760
If you just cut yourself and made edgy posts online, just don't mention it. Think up an excuse for scars.

If you went to the hospital or psych ward for it, you are boned

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>>34503759
Wear a polo and slacks if you really wanna look professional. Anything without logos on it should be fine, though. T shirt and jeans is minimum, no hoodies or whatever. Act mildly professional, my dude.

Tell them this: "I will sign a contract with you, as long as that contract has me enlisting as a [rate]".

If you don't, you're going to seem flakey. They'll work with you to get the rate you want.

>>34503760
With that edgy-ass picture?

If you live in Texas, HEB is always hiring. Minimum paying job there is $10/hr, it's good money, and they try to move you up quick.

>>34503760
What was the nature of the self-harm? Not to encourage lying, but if you're not going for a job with a clearance and there's no formal record of it occurring you could probably get away with it

Im shipping to navy boot camp tomorrow and I was only able to do 30 push ups at once. The last time I ran I did a mile at around 8 minutes 30 seconds. How fucked am I?

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How many jump does a soldier in an airborne unit perform each year?

>>34503894
You're going to die, but you'll also be alright.

Can you do cool shit as Navy intel

>>34503868
The doctor concluded I did it because I was "abused" as a child, I honestly didn't want to tell him I thought it was kinky.

I have 4 noticeable scars, on the top of my left arm, I never went to a psych ward for it though, I stopped the first time I was told not to. But I'm pretty sure it was recorded officially.

Do you think I could get into a private military contractor? 18, no combat experience, only job experience is at a machine shop, but did receive training for electromechanical.

>>34503954
You're fucked

>>34503938
No, you can only do cool shit as infantry.

>>34503954
There's always Le Legion :^)

>>34503894
You're fine. There's some completely out of shape shit there. Have fun in the pearl harbor for the first week. You are going to want to kill yourself.

Drink a lot of water before you get on the bus to great lakes and drink water on the ride so the pee test gets done with fast. Got out of boot about 4 months ago.

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I can do 3 pull ups. Am I gonna make it through boot camp brahs?

Should I go navy master at arms or air force security forces for a better law enforcement experience

>>34504137
Neither, seriously don't. Go navy GM if anything.

>>34504137
Former Security Forces fag here, yeah AF Security Forces is a good choice, Navy MAA are an absolute joke, they train at Lackland AFB , and learn just enough to be a danger to themselves and everyone around them. If you're REALLY serious about an LE Career, look into the US Coast Guard Maritime Enforcement Specialist (ME) rate, you will be performing real missions in the real world, not simply enforcing laws on a military installation, CG advancement and promotions are relatively fast, you'll have opportunities to get into top tier tactical units like LEDETs, MSRTs, or even MSSTs. Tougher enlistment requirements and Higher ASVAB scores mean working with top notch, motivated people, oh, and your 'A' School is at FLETC(The Federal Law Enforcement Training Center)

https://www.gocoastguard.com/active-duty-careers/enlisted-opportunities/view-job-descriptions/me

For the record, was Active CG before I went AF Reserve, and had the ME rate existed when I was in the CG, I never would have left.

>>34504054
It's 1 to be a poolee and 3 for the IST (Marines)

You'll probably be able to do 15 when you get out. Start working your lats in the meantime.

oh shit thats Navy OCS
good times

>>34496136
why do DIs wear their covers indoors

>>34504784
Intimidation. Everything they do is to scare the shit out of you.

I'm at 48 credits after this semester and I get my AA in December.

Should I start talking to a recruiter right now or wait until I get my AA? I've heard the credits transfer over easier with an AA vs by credit hour, and I don't want them to screw me out of E-3 (Marines btw)

>>34504674
Didn't even think about the Coast Guard, thanks for the info anon.

Hopefully the math on the ASVAB isnt too important for ME, I am garbage with it.

>>34503368
>tfw there's a Poolee that's motard as living fuck and the recruiters bash him for him but he doesn't fucking stop

I didn't deserve this. What's worse is he had to go to meps two times because he didn't make weight

Age 27.
Diagnosed depressed at age 15. One bottle of Welbutrin, then came off it.
Later on from 22-26 I on and off used counselors to sort out my life problems and stressors.
Chances of waiver from each branch?

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I'm in the Air Force DEP and got a parking ticket today. Do I need to tell my recruiter about it?

>>34505438
eh I don't think so but it won't hurt to mention it
just pay it immediately

>>34496136
What is your pic from, FMSS?

Enlisting in the AF was wondering what some of the best afsc are.

How bad is hazing

>>34498324
Somebody please add this kind of info to the copypasta for threads, this shit is asked a lot and we never seem to have a comprehensive answer as this for very long.

>>34498045
>If you're intelligent you'd create an IRA or a Mutual Fund

Just do roth TSP and stick it in the target retirement fund. It's super simple, and is a good balance between risk and availability of capital when you go to retire.

Do you acquire any skills as a combat engineer that translates into the civilian world?

>>34505799
Engineering stuff. Combat anything is useless in the civilian world for just about every job that isn't security.

Are marine officers as much of a meme as marine enlisted?

>>34505831
Marines are mythological legends according to civilians. I credit that to countless movies depicting Marines as some elite super killer force.

The whole branch is a meme, if you can call it a branch. Their logo says "Department of the Navy" up top. What a crock.

>>34505561
If it's under $300 it does not matter for your SF-86 or the like.

>>34505642
If you're smart and want to do smart things, cyber or intel. Otherwise, go aircrew. You won't regret it.
Don't choose cyber surety. They'll try to tell you you're doing cyber security, but you're actually just a glorified security guard.

>>34500677
>EXACTLY
It all depends if it gets back to his desk or not.
The risk though isn't worth the reward. WTF is your CC doing that he won't be around for months? You can often get a lower level officer to sign off on shit, I get my flight (platoon) commander to sign off on shit all the time.

>>34505856
The idea that their PFT is so much harder and they have no enlistment bonuses draws me in. I might've fallen for the marketing, but something about the marines is lit af

So I dont qualify for Nuke, which is what I wanted. But i did qual for IT and CT. Should I go for those or try again for nuke? What's advancement and reenlistment like for those rates?

>>34505878
You've fallen for the marketing. But if you want to live a sucky life and shout about how much you love it then go right ahead.

I'm being harsh but you really should look at each branch with a magnifying glass. Fuck the marketing. What are you getting out of it?

>>34505869
It was $52 so it sounds like I'm cool.

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>>34505878
>lit af

you'll fit right in

>>34499070
I really can't tell you why DODMERB would take you and MEPS deny you, but if you have a commission lined up (even without scholarship), I would look at taking out the dreaded student loans to cover the difference.

Officers *rake in* the dollars compared to enlisted guys, and the difference would be more than enough to pay off your student loans quickly, and depending on the route you plan to take, it looks really good on a resume to have been an officer, or you can continue your military career and retire at 20 years as a Lt Col and collect serious cash for the rest of your life.

>>34505902
I'm trying to get a commission. I want to be in a ground role, maybe engineer/intel. I honestly haven't even looked into Navy/AF since they don't appeal to me.

>>34505945
>I'm trying to get a commission.
That's great! If you have the chops for it, you'd be retarded not to commission
>I want to be in a ground role, maybe engineer/intel.
Okay. Have you asked an officer recruiter about what those jobs entail?
>I honestly haven't even looked into Navy/AF since they don't appeal to me.
Why is that?

>>34503954
I'm by far no pro but sometimes stuff like this makes me wonder if 'accidentally' burning the area to hide it would work. That's a whole different story to make though.

>>34497904
>>34497942
>>34497965
I would very much not recommend enlisting in the Army if you plan to be able to cross over to the AF in the future.

The AF is totally weird about prior service guys moving over, and it would be much more difficult to go from Army to AF, than from AF to Army.

The one thing that won't be really difficult is going from active duty army to Reserve/Guard AF. You may not get a full time slot right off the bat, but you'll have the chance to change branches.

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Marine question.
Say I want to join as tracks, but I have an auto accident under my driving record, will that pretty much disqualify me? Will my combat support contract restrict me to artillery seeing as how AAV and M1A2 crewman will be fucked for me? I know I end up getting put wherever they want me to go, but it's still about 33% chance, right?

>>34505967
I haven't seen a recruiter yet. I briefly skimmed over the AF/Navy Officer MOS's and none of them seemed appealing to me. I understand that combat/infantry MOS's have no carryover to civ life but that doesn't matter to me.

>>34506059
I'd recommend talking to a recruiter. From all those branches, to be frank.

>>34498324
Medical care providers keep records for 22 years in accordance with federal law and you sign a release saying the military can pull your shit.

>>34506104
I definitely will be. Do you just show up or is it better to call and schedule an appointment?

>>34506146
i just showed up but it's probably better to make an appt

>>34506146
I'd just show up. Most recruiting offices are multi-service.

>>34506146
Personally, I thought of it as applying for any other "out of college job". I called first, set up an appointment with the OR, and then saw him. Showing up unannounced could work just as fine but to me it seems less professional. Just my 2 cents.

>>34506146
Call and make an appointment. How do people even consider just walking in? You're an adult now, act like one. Especially if you're trying to become an officer.

>>34505878
What are you, a glutton for punishment?

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>join the IRC
>see this

uhh

>>34505878
Are you me

>>34506363
fellas why add this to the OP if there was no IRC

so i'm looking to go to medical school and i've received e-mails from the Army about this
1) is this ever a good option regardless of branch?
2) i know the navy does something similar, if anyone has experience with either that they want to share, it would be appreciated
3) can people switch branches? like if i went with the army and did their medical school thing, would i later to be allowed to join the navy if i wanted to?

>>34506024
They don't give a fuck about your accident and you'll probably have 4 more accidents while you're in anyway.

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>>34506823
>you'll probably have 4 more accidents while you're in anyway
I'm not that shitty a driver...

Why won't the air force let you pick your job like the Navy and Army?

>>34506110
t. MEPS doctor

>>34507008
Real answer?
Because they don't have to.

The AF has enough of a demand that they can just stick people where they need them, as opposed to having to persuade people by giving them guaranteed jobs. Those slots do still exist BTW, and afaik many people are still signing on for certain career fields, vs a general aptitude field.

My personal opinion is that it's not an overall good strategy, because while you may get a bunch of airmen to fill careers in the short term, you don't get the return on investment in the form of longevity of service and passion that someone would put into a job that they are interested in.

Also the recruiter has a ton of incentive to lie and tell you that they can't slide you in those jobs slots, because it looks good on them if they are able to fill open contracts. I think I'll be doing a short PTDY with AFRC, and I'll be able to gain some inside answers on this stuff later in the year.

>>34503954
>>34505988
Just do bite training with a dog and don't where the protective sleeve.

What's "NOB" stand for?

I quit high school for family reasons

any chance of being taken in with a diploma?

>>34507516
*without diploma i mean

>>34507008
>>34507144
Will coasties let you pick or are they AF tier

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Assuming I do well on the Asvab, what sort of jobs do they have in the navy? I don't know any of the letter things like CTI, so I don't understand that stuff unfortunately.
What's a cool and fun job I can use inside and outside of the Navy?

>>34507624
>What's a cool and fun job I can use inside and outside of the Navy?
Do some googling dude then come back here for clarification. We cant spoon feed you "cool" jobs

>>34507516
if you have a certain amount of college and a ged

>>34507657
What do you think is cool man? It's a subjective question, I'm asking your opinion. Not to spoon feed me, just say what you like, my man.

>>34507730
BUt that doesn't make sense. What I think si cool might be completely different from what you like.
Anyway I was an OS and I really liked it. But CT jobs are good, GM FC are good, IT good.

If I enlisted in the Army as a 35M, would I be able to get a 6-figure paying job with that MOS when I get out?

Should I be going to the gym, or is just running/push ups/sit ups better

So I ship out next month and I can't do pushups. I did 5 on the test at the recruiters and they said not to worry about it because I will get there by the end of basic. The problem is I don't want want to go in without being able to do the minimum. Anyone have any tips for increasing your pushup numbers in a manner of weeks? My run and situps are fine but I've honestly just never done any sort of physical fitness or workout routine for my upper body.

>>34507979
Do pushups.

>>34507905
Do pushups.

>>34505405
pls respond.

is there any additional resources out there to prep for the ASVAB? I don't mind paying for something that's valuable but unsurprisingly the internet seems full of shitheads hocking their book or secret silver bullet method. The free site in the OP FAQ was useful but I could go for more in-depth or at least more good practice tests.

>>34508084
Go to a bookstore and buy a asvab study book

If you don't score over 90 on the asvab you're a literal retard

If I go for a job that gets me a TS clearance in the USAF, will they look at my medical records (even if I don't report them to MEPS) and will they look at any tickets that got dismissed at all?

>>34508296
To be clear though, the dismissed ticket was a careless driving. The form they gave me for my information says that they want everything including that which was dismissed.

The med records was my mother took me to a psych about bipolar (because she is) and she convinced the doctor based on her proof that I was too. I never took the meds, was never committed to a psych ward, or have any sort of paperwork with anywhere but their office saying I am. The only reason I ask is because she had me talk to him every other week until I was old enough to tell her I didn't want to anymore.

I can sort of swim. Will coast guard basic have swim practice before physical fitness testing or should I be at the pool right now

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Which would be the most beneficial MOS for a healthy young man such as myself?

I was thinking either 68W so I can work at an army hospital after coming home or 19K just for shits but I can't see a civilian life after being a tank crewman. Also, what do you guys think about going to community college for a year beforehand in order to pursue a paramedic/EMT qualification? I only wanna join community college to stay a bit longer and save up some money while working and going to school so I have some EMT experience under my belt before going in.

>>34508429

And also to give me time to bulk up and get some gains so I can pick people up when they get wounded.

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>>34497108
How strict is the requirement that the degree be precisely one of those listed in order to enter the program? Can that be negotiated in the recruitment process?

>>34508559
>How strict is the requirement that the degree be precisely one of those listed in order to enter the program? Can that be negotiated in the recruitment process?

Not that anon but I got the chance to spend an afternoon at the Hoover building and talk to some agents who were doing time with HR (they were previously working in field offices doing narcotics in LA and Russian organized crime in Miami, FBI apparently has a lot of room for movement) and their points were:

Degree doesn't necessarily matter

Get skills and experience that bring something critical to the table: critical languages, cyber, study abroad and foreign travel, internships, actual law enforcement experience, military experience etc.

Everyone who wants to work for the FBI gets a Criminal Justice degree, it does the exact opposite of make your application stand out

>>34508559
>>34508783
Oops my bad for some reason thought that was a link to FBI.

Looking to join the US Airforce.

Had to drop out of high school due to personal family matters, and obtained a GED which means I have to score a lot higher on the ASVAB to be considered in.

I was really good at English, but very meh at math and science.

What's the highest level of math I can expect doing the ASVAB? It's really the only thing I am worried about.

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If there's any AF Japan/Korea-fags here:

Kadena
>F-15's

Yokota
>C-130's

Misawa
>F-16's

Osan
>A-10's / F-16's

Kusan
>F-16's

Is Wiki accurate enough?

Trying to get stationed in the region.

Got Electrical Aptitude so I'm going to try and aim for AFSCs related to F-16's, but I'm not sure if I should put down F-15s as well, because hot damn Kadena looks like heaven.

Going into basic not knowing what my AFSC is going to be, not knowing where my tech school is going to be, and not knowing where I'm going to be stationed is driving me up a fucking wall.

>>34508028
Any specific way? I was doing the 100 pushups challenge for awhile but apparently it's retarded.

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>>34508976
I'm doing "evil russian" push up routine. Works well if you have a lot of time. Apply it for sit-up and pull up and you have a complete upper body workout to get ready for boot in 2-3 weeks.

>>34505593
Navy OCS.

If MEPS requests 'all records for _____' and you give them partial in order to hide something, can they or will they attain that full record sooner or later?
Some things on some of my papers are concerning, as far as enlistment goes. I figure they want you to turn in the papers yourself to test if you are hiding things and obtain it on their own later to check if you were trying to slide by.
Maybe I am just a lil paranoid.

>>34509320
depends on what it was give a quick synopsis

>>34497474
>which is when you learn on an adult level.

I found the workload in y12 to be as much of a bludge as y11, there was just more stress cause your marks actually have an impact on your future.

I'm turning 24 in 2 weeks. I've done nothing eith my life so far. I'm a fatass too. Im thinking of joining the military as a stepping stone in the right direction. I have no order or diction in my life at this point. I was thinking either the Navy or the Army but idk I'm hesitant. What should I do? What are some useful MOS's?

>>34509320
>>34509329
tl;dr Listed on prescreen family counseling that I later discovered didn't happen and I actually looked up my records for counseling keyword and some counseling I voluntarily entered as an adult has 'depression' and 'adjustment disorder' listed at separate dates. I was not told of these diagnostics, or if a counselor's diagnosis/opinion holds weight to MEPS. The counseling went on at utterly random intervals for about 4 years to blow off stress and tell someone my woes, like a pastor.
Also, it had some stuff where I was diagnosed Depressed at 15 and given Welbutrin.
All of this is at the same facility.
MEPS requested 'all counseling' and I didn't know about some of this shit prior to looking at my record.
(Samefag from other threads if this sounds familiar.)

>>34509122
What is RM

>>34508429
19k. You will become ripped at. If you a loader at least. If you aren't you will be eventually. Loading in those rounds is a real tough job. Your arms and shoulder will bulk up like no other. Just graduated from OSUT in Benning. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything else in the world.

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>>34503437
You must be at least 18 to use this site

>have you ever smoked weed, even just to try it out
Do I just say no or admit I tried it once

>>34509654
>You're underage if you logically hate blacks and military slaves

Back to plebbit faggot.

>>34509850
just tell them you didn't, theres no way they can find out

Which jobs in the coast guard are undermanned?

age : 30

Missed the boat didn't I?

What's the least pog of pog jobs?

>>34505894
Not sure if bait but for fuck's sake take IT or CT. Do you not follow these threads?

>>34507624
If you cant get a MINIMUM AFQT score of 65 or better on the ASVAB you're a fucking idiot.

http://www.officialasvab.com/eligibility_app.htm

>>34510006
Moto-T probably

I've been looking into aircrew careers in the Air Force and it seems most of them require a secret clearance of sorts. I was prescribed stimulants/anti-depressants 2 years ago that I intended on not disclosing at MEPS.I stopped taking those 2 years ago and have been sober since. Should I just not go aircrew at all because of past drug use?

>>34508559
It's strict. Your recruiter has no control over it since all packets require CID approval

>>34508349

The tickets are nothing. The medical record is something you'll likely have to address in the recruitment phase--much earlier than the clearance

>>34508944

Aircraft is accurate.

>>34510006
AAV crews did foot patrols p sure

>>34510006
I'd assume combat engineers.

>>34510006
>What's the least pog of pog jobs?

If you want to be infantry just enlist as infantry. This doesn't make any kind of fuckin sense.

>>34510748
He doesn't want to be s cop or homeless when he's done

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What the fuck do LAAD crews do on deployment? Why is this a PMOS?

What is the 'best' job in the 25 series in the army and why?

>>34496136
are there any white people in the military left or is it all minorities (which are now a majority in under 18 age group) now? honest question.

>>34511330
Nope we're all dead. Me and you included.

>>34511330
Combat arms: mostly white (plus some hispanics, and a few asians). Maybe 1 black in every 150-200 people.
"good" support jobs like intel: less white, still mostly white.
"meh" support jobs like mechanics: mostly hispanic, some whites, some blacks.
Supply and cooks: over half black.

tl;dr the less pussy the job, the fewer blacks.

>>34511356
>the less pussy the job
>grunt trying to justify his horrible decisions in life

>>34496136

Don't do it anons

Don't enlist

>>34511371
35F actually, but u do u anon. Don't complain to me about black Masons when you decide to become a truck driver for the job skills.

Do you need perfect color vision to be a fixed-wing pilot for the Marine Corps?

This is surprising hard to find online.

>>34511388
I think the standard is the same for all fixed winged pilots, so yeah you probably do

>>34511398
That feel.

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>>34511405
I know this feel
>have a private pilots licence
>have both instrument and commercial ratings
>working on high performance rating
>decide to join AF
Sorry Anon your hearing isn't good enough

>>34508084
there's a bunch of apps of the play store that are asvab guides.

>>34511437
From what I've seen it says I need to pass one of the two tests they give.

So there's hope maybe. I also hope my hearing isn't fucked from loud music/playing drums as a teenager.

>>34511448
>know babbies first algebra
>id difference between wrench and screwdriver
>play tetris for tards

People who score below the 90s on an ASVAB are subhuman. If you need to prepare, kys

>>34511347
>>34511356
why do white people join the military? why would you wanna die? white people should be starting families and procreating. you're basically fighting for a majority black&hispanic country.

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>>34511388
if you're any kind of colorblind, say goodbye to flying. just kill that dream now. It'll hurt for a little bit, but it gets better.

t. colorblind who wanted to fly helos

>>34511492
It's a warrior culture thing. Proles just wanna fuck shit up, but white proles are disciplined enough to do it to faggots over there instead of their own people.

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>>34511492
because when whites want to kill, they do it in an organised, legal manner, and train to become skilled at it.

whites also have some sense of country so killing randos in the streets doesn't cut it.

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>tfw Masters Graduate and looking into Air Force OTS because I cant find a job.


I have a feeling this isnt a good idea. But it would get me experience.

>>34511551
>because when whites want to kill, they do it in an organised, legal manner, and train to become skilled at it.
speak for yourself killer

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/10/soldier-accused-of-killing-his-wife-and-a-new-york-state-trooper-police-say/

>>34511551
killing black and brown people in other countries so black & brown people can exterminate you at home. got it.

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>>34511568
lets see how many articles you can dig up hammer your in

>>34502864
Don't get it. Do your time in the navy.
When you get out a better model will be available.

>>34505878
Everyone on this board are jaded as fuck towards marines.
If you want to be one, be one.
Don't listen to these autismos.
I know what you mean too. I know it's all propaganda, but I still want to be a Marine.

>>34511492
I joined to get the gi bill so I could set myself up to do just that. Calm your autism.

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>>34511780
you're willingly signing up for the worst of the worst. want new equipment? too bad
want livable housing? too bad
want to chose your job? too bad

I understand the elitest appeal, but aside from being able to boast about being more /fit/, the marines offeres 0 benefits over army infantry.

Why is life so confusing lads. I just wanted to be an astronaut. When does the space corps get created

>>34511862
That looks tasty

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>>34511939
welcome to the marines

>>34511974
Do you not like vanilla?

>>34509407
Dunno what the acronym actually stands for, but it's talking about how many pushups you did during the evals

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>>34512136
>>34509407
>>34509122
Rep max you dyel babys.
If you can only do 30 pushups that's your RM. Havent you people ever lifted weights before? Lurk fit a bit my nigs.

>>34512090
its my fav flav. just making a joke bud

>>34511330
my osut company was mostly white and Asian. one of the two blacks quit week 4

>>34505869
Not anyone you've replied to, but I've been reading your posts for the last few weeks, thanks for the advice. What are some good "cyber" AFSCs? I'm pretty set on 3D0X2, but the RF/spectrum jobs also sound interesting. What's intel like? The base I'll be assigned to has 1N4X1 open as well as the jobs I already mentioned. I'm hesitant about the network intel analyst position because I would be in the ANG, so becoming experienced in that job would be next to impossible and even more difficult to put on a resume.

>>34511557
It's a good idea, the problem is it's a really time consuming and involved process with a big commitment. If you are doing it just because you can't find work you probably aren't going to see it through.

>>34511376
why not

>>34511487
see anon, i'm not a youngfag so a) i know you prepare no matter what for a test whose outcome makes a big diff and b) i'm sure as shit not willing to be tripped up by some random basic shit i just haven't seen in so long.

i've gotten 95%+ out of the random freebie online practice questions i've tried but most were from ppl who want you to sign up so i am wondering if they make it seem easy to scare off less retards who are just smart enough to be bullet catchers

How desperate is the Air Force for Security Forces?

That is my fallback for if I don't make the coast guard