Obligatory Shotgun Thread

>>34493571
Yes!

Rec a good all around shotgun for bird and small game hunting that's reasonably priced? Anything besides the normal 870/500?

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>>34493514
Really want one of these.
Norinco Puma.

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>>34493735
High Standard 200, I guess: twelve gauge, four-to-five shot magazine, depending upon shell length, and complete with an external choke.

...Do they still exist?

>>34493963
Some models, not all of 'em.

>>34493735
Ithaca 37?

>>34493746
Chinese made, I take it - bullpup configuration, too. How's it compare to a Saiga?

I want an old shotgun (12ga, 2 3/4)
It must be short as possible, similar to a riot or trench cut

What do you got for me /k/?

>>34493735
can't go too wrong with a traditional over-under or side-by-side field shotty. do some research tho.

>>34494046
Depending upon state of residence, did you consider a Mossberg 590 "Shockwave"?

>>34494046
>>34494089
"cruiser" model with pistol grip works too, if you can manage the recoil.

>>34494089
I'm in California...
Also I wanted something old, with wood and steel

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>>34494126
Winchester Model 1897, then: the "Trench-Broom". Very distinctive look.

Got to warn you: it's not going to come, cheaply.

>>34494007
No idea im just a leaf who got his burger citizenship. Havent made the move yet but I do enjoy my Type 97nsr alot.

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i just bought a mossberg 500 on sale a week or 2 ago and put an aluminum shell carrier on it this week. i like it a lot more now that i have extra rounds on the gun

>>34494046
get a streetsweeper :DDDDD

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>>34494395
>moss 500
no

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So I feel like I'm probably gonna get sarcastic answers for this, but I figure I'll ask anyway, since I just don't know enough about this myself:

I am wondering if there are any combination guns that are lightweight (for a combo gun), shoot .22 or .223, and 12ga shot and slugs, for under 400 USD.

>>34494721
a nail, a big and small pipe, and a hammer.

>>34494759
Problem is I'd really like it to be a registered firearm.

>>34494721
why not just get a normal shotgun? .223 in single shot sounds pretty fucking stupid.

>>34494775
I guess, but I was looking for a gun with a very versatile ammo supply. Like basically a gun it would never be likely to run out of ammo for. Plus the .22 is quieter and shoots a lil further, yeah?

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Mandatory 'tard rocket!

>>34494422
What's wrong with Mossberg?

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Worth it for $295? I'm in California
Winchester 1300 Marine

>>34494864
i dislike their stocks
they feel really flimsy

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>>34493514

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>>34494805
I hate being unfun, but all combo guns are really trash.

you want something that does everything? Buy a shotgun.

you want something practical for people killing? Buy a semiautomatic .223

you want to shoot cans for hella cheap? Buy a .22

Anyone else have a remington 31?

>>34494920
That's fine, just can you redpill me a little better? Why are they trash?

>TFW would like a M37 Trench gun
Don't know where to get one and haven't taken safety courses on guns anyway, plus I don't own my own place.

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>>34494938
generally they're gimmick shit made poorly to be marketed to preppers and other uninformed purchasers. Go see reviews on them, they do make them.

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>>34493514

>>34494968
Ok, got it. Yeah, not a prepped, just want a great hiking gun. How about one of those breakbarrels with a rifle and a shotgun barrel?

>>34494920
i would download a bear and cuddle with it after fucking it

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>>34493514
Just updated my HD gun

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>>34493514
My latest purchase, Belgian flintlock 12 gauge I got for $100. It might just be a wall hanger though, I'm afraid it might blow up in my face if I shoot it.

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>>34493514

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>>34495039

>>34494968
Combination guns are very popular with european sportsman, what are you on about? They've been a thing as long as break action firearms
A lot of prepper masturbate to them but I've never seen them marketed to them.
Honestly baffled where these pounds of salt are coming from.
Did an old european hunter touch you as a kid or something

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>>34495086
Shit yes.
Had someone shooting in the apartments behind my house last night, realized I couldn't see dog shit or black people in the dark and needed a light, this was the result.

>>34494911
"I want the biggest barrel shadow ever and I want a neon shoe lace to flap everywhere and slap my hand as I use the gun"
Gotchu Famm!

>>34495117
I'm the guy who originally asked for the combo gun recs. How about you just show both of us a good example of a decent, lightweight combo gun?

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>>34495117
sorry, I live in burgerland and I'm not familar with any euro-shit.

as far as salt? Nah, just trying to coarse home boy into making an informed purchase and not a impulsive one.

>>34495021
hiking gun just confuses the issue as to why you would want a combo gun.

you talkin' for hunting or stopping a bear or mountain lion from mauling you to death? Because those are legitimately two different tools.

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shout-out to "dragon's breath" shells. ;-)

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>>34495152

Waiting on a shipment from nokick. Ordered a mesa adaptor, recoil piston and ctr stock.

Im a bitch and cant take the recoil of my 3" buck.

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>>34494200
unless its a norinco, then its like 300-400$.

>>34495039
I just turned my PGO to a full buttstock. Not as 70's aesthetic but still decent. Also for HD.

I would buy something to attach to the mag tube, if i were you. Or be truly aestetic and build a brass or aluminum forend that will hold a vintage flash light.

I currently just hold my flash light in my left hand with the pump.

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>>34495354
my newest shotguns and my PGO when it was still a PGO.

(PGO=Pistol Grip only)

>>34494200
>>34495354

Never knew Norinco made a knock-off. Good to know.

>>34495354
This is a stop gap, I'm going to figure something more aesthetic out later

Not sure what a good flashlight would be. I have a Nydar sight that needs mounted to it as well

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>>34493514
Sure, why not.
>>34493735
I think O/U and SS 20ga, even .410 ga shotguns are severely underrated for field work. True, .410 does require more practice and shooting at closer ranges, but with a lightweight SS gun, or even .410 over .22LR makes a supremely handy bushcraft/innawoods gun.

Rossi currently makes a 20GA/.22LR combo that I've seen at Dick's for $150, although it's SS, so you have to switch the barrels out. It's also kinda rickety.
Savage makes a gun called the Mod. 42, but it's like $500. Combo guns tend to be expensive in general.
I also know that Remington imported some Baikal shotguns as "Spartan" something or other, but I don't know if they're sold anymore.

Anyway with O/U or SxS guns you're mostly looking at Turk guns nowadays unless you buy some old used gun from a pawnshop or shell out 4 figures. They have been largely eclipsed by pumps.
Also I think old Mossberg bolt-action magazine-fed .410s are neat. Some guy from Maryland brought one to Arkadia Ranch last year and it was way too much fun to dick around with. Expensive to feed though.

>>34494872
Yes, the 1300s are amazing. The marine finish is always a plus, although rust is a non-problem in the vast majority of the state.

Great if you ever cross into Nevada to shoot, because the high desert is all salt flats which means rust.

>>34495380
go buy a flash light from the 50's and put a LED bulb in it.

>>34495408
combo guns are always expensive? I guess that explains that. Time to go find a good break action single shot 12ga...

>>34495736
What really sucks is that H&R used to make fuckloads of them but I hear they stopped making them. They're out of stock everywhere. You'll have to find a used one, although that isn't very tough.

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>>34494886

>i ... feel

opinion discarded

>>34496027
>screenshotting a buzzfeed video
opinion discarded
mossbergs are notorious for shoddy manufacturing

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I've recently fallen in love with the 590 mariner just from looking at it. Any advice on weather or not it's a wise choice?

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>>34496064

you are notorious for faggotry

>>34496073
Sometimes it gets hot other times it gets cold.
Air pressure differences do things like this
Also water evaporates and warm air carries more vapor so it loses it when it cools down. this has been weather with anon

>>34496073
They look good and are durable, but carry a hefty price premium. It's up to you to decide if it's worth it or not

>>34495988
>>34495988
I can pick up a rossi 12ga single shot rifled break barrel with a shitty sight and no mounting apparatus on it for 119 nearby... but honestly I'm not sure about that.

Anyone else have a cutts compensator? I'm trying to hunt down chokes for mine.

>>34496319
I mentioned them earlier. Very cheap, so if you have fuck you money you might as well but it felt pretty rickety to me.

>>34496401
Yah I was fingerfucking one in the store and it felt good, but I'm also not very experienced with guns in all honesty so I just came here to get a sanity check. I need the damn thing to be robust because of its use case and because I'm slav tier when it comes to caring for my guns, so... that's a definite no.

Thanks for the tips and thoughts.

>>34494422
hello remington

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>>34496115

>>34496073
They are good.

>>34493514
fuck that ugly fudd shit

>>34494721

Savage model 24 variants, thought all the ones in desireable are going to cost you and they don't make them anymore so it'll have to be used.

>>34495314
If pic is you try having a leg day senpai

>>34494422
How goes that busted ejection, remington?

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>>34496064
Back to school, summerfag

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590 A1

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>no regerts

>>34495354
>norinco, then its like 300-400$.
Show me a Norinco 97T for $300-$400.
I buy 2 right now.

>>34498187
I wish my fudd ass FFL didn't think this was somehow not legal.
Faggot won't let me transfer one through him, unless he marks it as a "shotgun" on the 4473.

>which would get me in some shit should I have to go to court over it, which I inevitably would living in Failinois.

How much will just a simple O/U Shotty run me?

>>34496331
Yeahhh boii save super choke

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>>34493514

12 gauge SxS with barrel inserts

>survivalist wetdream

>>34498280
$600 (turkshit) - $18,000(german or italian race gun)

>A L U M I N U M
Can memebergs even compete?

Also how do you upvote?

>>34498265
Then go to another FFL. I'm sure even if you live in BFE it is cheaper and easier to just make the drive

>>34499114
He's the cheapest I've came across at $20 for up to 5 guns at once.
Everybody else want upwards of $50 + "fees" that are completely made up bullshit.
>Background check fee of $10+ (it's a $2 cost to dealer to do the check), "taking it off our books fee" of $15+
I'm not super concerned about it, I'll find a cooler FFL soon and snag one.
It's just a range toy after all, I have a 590SP, Vepr 12, and an old Savage Stevens 67D for real shotgun work.

Should I grab the 590a1 7 shot or 9 shot? Does the extra length and weight really make a difference? Also, how is the Magpul shotgun furniture?

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>>34496331
Yeah, you can find them on gunbroker. Or ask your LGS if they have any, more than once I've seen them in a parts bin lying around. Pic related, my 1148 with Cutts.

>>34494886
I'll concede that. Just cleaned my 590 and had to remove the pistol grip to pop out the trigger assembly.

I agree. Feels like air-soft, ABS shit.

>>34500997
not to mention when you screw it back in and tighten it, so its secure, you can hear the plastic cracking. not like I used a fat-wrench set at 50ft-lbs or anything! It was just a cheap allen wrench!

>>34496994
>"Hand your kids over, and nobody gets hurt"

>>34498341
Nice

Also good idea, keeping your beard tied up like that so you can have tinder in a pinch

>>34498149
Were the sights really worth the cost?

>>34501284
I ate out the bullseye at 25 yards with slugs, so yeah.. I suppose they are. I use it for work though too, and they have held up fine

>>34494721
I think you want the judge or governor... its a pistol. shotgun shells, and 45. revolver. Mixed reviews, but I dig it.

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Here's my beloved. I'm probably never going to have a family, which sucks because I'd love to turn this into a family heirloom of sorts, and give it to my son as he comes of age.

Anyone know anything about the pump actions made by Benelli or Winchester? Are they just bargain bin trash? I know Winchester's are manufactured in Turkey

>>34499690
How do you like the Cutts. Haven't shot the gun yet. Bought the gun to use for sporting clays. I'm in commiefornia so I doubt I'll find a gun store with a parts bin

>>34494770
Registered?
What do you mean by that?

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this comes in rather heavy but is sexy af for a century-old gun.

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I got the shotgun in the picture for 80 bucks. Thought it was a steal.

Turns out after every shot, the shell gets stuck in the chamber, and pumping the action won't get them out. The thing can take 3" shells, and 2 3/4" are still getting stuck.

No idea what to do, I'm still newguns.

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>>34501830
I have a Nova Tactical and an old Winchester 16 gauge from the 60s. Both are excellent guns. The only complaint I have is the Nova kicks like a bitch. Even for a light pump. It has a 3 1/2 chamber but it wouldn't be fun shooting full power loads in it. I also have an 870 Express from the early 90s that's my 'go to' shotgun. Skeet, doves, quail etc. The 870 was either the first gun I bought new when I turned 18 or the second.

>>34501085
seriously though, a mustache can mean only two things: I hate children, or I really really like them. Either way, keep your fucking children away from me.

>>34501825
I love mine but holy fucking shit does it rust like a mother fucker. Like, I pulled it out and worked the action a couple times and then put it back in my safe; 2 weeks later I pull it out again and there's rust all over the trigger guard and above the pump on the barrel. It's ridiculous.

>>34501917
Next gun I'm getting will probably be an Auto 5. Those guns give me hard ons like you wouldn't believe.

>>34502123
Your extractors are shot. Seeing as you are new-funs, I'd recommend not trying to change them yourself, unless you are mechanically savvy and have experience working with your hands. This leaves A) sending it to mossberg for warranty repair, B) finding a local gun store to help you out, or C) selling the gun

>>34494770
Lol nogunz please leave.

>>34502123
It is a mossberg 500 or clone. Just goto brownells and order extractors. Easy fix.

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>>34502326

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>>34502326

>>34502326
Good stuff...!

>>34502123

It's the "cartridge stop". Learn how it works and give it a little bend in the right direction, or request a replacement.

Mossberg will send a new one for free if you are within warranty.

>>34502123
It's not "extractors" and if you cant replace it yourself you probably shouldn't own a gun, or be allowed out of the house alone. Previous replies are fucking retarded.

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I'm a poorfag so all I have is this single shot 16 gauge my grandpa left me.

Maverick 88 for poorfag shotgun yes or no?

>>34504016
No idea. Anyone know?

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>>34501917
Not sure exactly why but I find the buck special model sexy as fuck.

>>34493735

Winchester 1300.

Strongest action ever made in a pump action shotgun.

>>34504163
you don't
you're jacking off to hickok45's man hands

>>34504016
yes good poorfag shotgun

>>34504016
Similar question: How are Mav 88s for longevity and customization?

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An 870 for every occasion

>>34502315
Anything you recommend for fighting the rusting? She's gotta stay pristine.

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The .410 is my favorite, only because it was my first gun. The 500 is a close second though, nothing like fanning buckshot into a burn barrel. Still trying to find mags for the 20ga

>>34504993
longevity and customization are comparable to the 500, action-bars & foregrip are pinned together ,however

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>>34505142
And heres the 500 after a shitty stain job. Going for 'dark walnut' soon

>>34504993
>>34505153
another note, the maverick receivers are not drilled & tapped for mounts..the 500s are

>>34505153
>>34505205
500 sounds a bit better for making one's own, I take it.

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>>34494886
Replace the stock, you magnificent faggot.

>>34505091
good lookin guns

>>34495039
>when niggers embrace trench warfare

>>34505262
yeah

Where can I get info on different 12gauge loads regarding grouping size and distance?

>>34505262
Pretty much. I own an 88 and absolutely love it, though i'm partial to the utilitarian appeal. The 88 feels like more of a tool than the 500, if that makes any sense.

>>34505320
>>34505428
Thanks, I'll just spend a bit longer saving rather than getting the 88 right now.

>>34493514

Got a Benelli M2 tactical, 922r compliant, ghost load mod for a total of 6 +1 capacity, and a 5 round side saddle. I'm a cop for a large police department and carry it on duty. I bought a Briley 6" barrel extension for hunting, and it screws on just like a choke. I like my shotgun.

>>34494046
Ithaca still makes the M37 in a riot gun configuration and Inland makes the M97 trench gun.

>>34494949
Inland makes one.

>>34499690
Model 50 with a Cutts, awww yea

>>34505091

all i got to say is get a better shell carrier for the tactical one. aluminum. you won't regret that $70.

ARfag here I have a question about 12 gauge specifically buckshot/slugs.

Are they as devastating as the stories make them out to be? I've heard cops tell me when they came to the scene of a bugler being killed by a shotgun that there were bits and pieces everywhere.

>>34505979
They're pretty fucking strong. 00 buck is arguably pretty overkill against a person, which is why different rounds are recommended for HD.

>>34505897

Not a fan of metal ammo carriers. I've had zero problems with these ESSTAC velcro ones. Shells hold tight, no issues. And I can easily rip them off and replace empty ones. And they carry in AR-15 mag pouches.

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Thoughts on the H&R Pardner?

>>34505979

Slugs are no joke. People fucking kill 1200 lbs brown bears with 12 gauge slugs. 9 pellet 00 buckshot is (sorta similar) to 9 rounds of 9mm. The shot is just slightly smaller diameter, but it's close enough for the comparison. Standard 9mm ball out a handgun is going maybe 1200 or 1250 fps. Out of a shotgun that 00 buckshot is going closer to 1350 to 1400 fps. So it's approximately equivalent to getting hit with a 9 round burst from high velocity 9mm FMJ out of, say, a MP5 submachine gun. Yeah, it's gonna do some hurt.

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Fug I might pick up one of those Norinco 97 riot models

Anybody own one? How is it?

>>34501830
The nova and super nova are nice. The sxp is ok. But not in the same league

>>34506047
Forgot to ask, what's the highest price one should reasonably pay for the thing? And does it actually accept Remington 870 aftermarket parts?

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>>34494200

That craftsmanship, that aesthetic, and that slamfire. you can't beat the classics.

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Burger from east coast califuck NJ, Just bought my first gun, home defense, Dealer says this will keep the zombies away. did I meme, or am I ok?

>>34507230
I own >>34495039
It took some gunsmithing but now it runs great

>>34505295
Hey, I gotta flush them out somehow

>>34501870
I'm in California too. The Cutts is alright, I have the cylinder bore and the Improved cylinder. Usually run slugs through the latter. It's a cool device that allows easy choke changes. Only issue is you need a bead or sight that sits above the line of sight of the Cutts.

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>>34505661
Didn't even know Winchester knocked off the A5 also, had to look it up. Here's a better shot of my Remington.