Gear Queer Thread /gq/ General

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>>34491990

requesting advice on products and retailers for level 3a soft armor
>on a budget plz

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R8 my IFAK

several bandaids
several alcohol prep pads
one lighter
scissors
gauze wrap
tourniquet
iodine
emergency blanket
neosporin
2pairs of vinyl gloves
waterproof tape
safety pin
altoids tin containing superglue, ibuprofen, visiline eyedrops, some cotton balls


please be gentle, was built long before I knew IFAK's were a thing

>>34491998
Nice pic of garbage

>>34492024
can you please stop being mean

>>34491998
I would love to know how you did that rattlecan job

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>>34492028
pic

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>>34492023
Hemostatic agents?
Chest seals?
>>34492036
>>34492028
Begone

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>>34492033

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>>34492048
oh, i'm sorry, have i invaded your safe space.
get fucked

>>34492050
no how did you get that pattern? wrapped in rope?

>>34492048
neither, what are/where can I find those?
Also I've been told to get one of these

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003950R2E/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2Y2XRCVDHCETS&colid=3AGAWBBG6BSB5

>>34492063
no, just press nozzel and move arm

>>34491990
the pastebin was honestly shit anyway

>>34492023
2/10 all you're missing is tampons for it to really be useless/10
>superglue
>prep pads
>eye drops
>cotton balls

needs more gauze, chest seals, NPA if you're trained. Neosporin and lighters won't do shit with a GSW, separate your FAK into two.

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>>34491990

>>34492087
Oh my bad, I forgot to mention I don't LARP as an operator

my mistake, will you ever forgive me?

>>34492063
Real retard explanation here;
>what are
Hemostatic Agents are a series of clotting aids to slow bleeding. They can be found in granuals or impregnated dressings.
Chest seals are basically big stickers that have a vent in them. If you get shot you apply the sticker to the chest to prevent air from filling the chest and crushing important bits.
>where can I find those?
I buy mine locally but probably amazon or something

Learn to use what you have.

The NPA you linked also isnt a bad choice but learn how to use it

>>34492094
You asked to rate, I did. Good luck mistaking your eyedrops for gorilla glue.

>>34492121
run along son

>>34492119
I'll look into those, thanks for your time senpai. Im looking for some first aid/nursing classes at my local community college here and there, and hoping that if that IFAK ever gets used it will be by someone else on me, or someone else

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>>34492001
Bump for this. We should know more about it.

>>34491998
Is that a chest rig? Where are the straps? And why all the pastel colors? Remind you of quaint South American villages?

>>34492050
Don't shit up the thread man.

>>34492057
Might be a decent image except you painted in your other rifle.

>>34492088
Do you actually carry 12 AR mags?

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I'm usually more /o/ than /gearqueer/ so I want to ask you guys, do you actually do any hiking and backpacking? Do you guys realize most of your gear is fuckhuge and heavy? Do you not like the idea of ultralight gear? My gear is basically my ultralight backpacking set up + a light chest rig like this guy has >>34491998 for 4 mags, a dump pouch on my belt and my side arm is carried just like I carry it everyday, appendix IWB with a light weight trigger guard. Also most of my clothes being a backpacking fag are neutral non military looking colors or earth friendly colors, some blue here and there.

Has anyone here actually done multiple day hikes with all your gear outside of your military days? How do you guys plan on keeping your gear lightweight?

>>34492221
Yes.

>>34492221
Do you only have one foot? How is the hollow leg for CCW? Any recommendations for good IFL (inside false leg) carry?

>>34492221
>adventure medical kit
gross

You rarely see full size dedicated carriers in these threads anymore so I'd say it's gotten better.

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>>34492221
If I have to hike around with all of my gear I am probably going to leave the carrier at home and switch to a lighter rig such as a battle jacket or a chest rig. Obviously practicing in the armor is more difficult and forces you to take more things into consideration so thats why Im usually using plates for recreational shooting. This is also one of the reasons I dont really get too upset about plate weight and opt for full protection if Im going plates.
>>34492259
Want me to dig out my IOTVs ?

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>>34492200
sometimes more.

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>>34492200
don't tell me what to do

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>>34492221
>Multi day hikes
Backpacking is entirely different hobby than gear queering, and while there is a good deal of intersection, recognize that they are separate. Backpacking is also very expensive, especially if you're trying to buy "tactical" backpacking gear as the market for that stuff is tiny (Arterxy and Mystery Ranch are all that come to mind).

For example what you posted is entirely /out/ related, and only related to /gq/ in as much as backpacking is related to prepping, which it isn't really even since most people in most SHTF situations will be bugging in.

If you're trying to do the LRRP /GQ/, recognize that you're basically trying to do two very expensive hobbies at once, and there will be correspondingly less people interested in your neato combination hobby.

>Neutral non military looking colors
That isn't what gear queer is about, and that is why often people like you get referred to /out/.

For example I bought an REI hardshell and was considering it as part of my gear setup. It had a pretty nice olive outer color, but the inside was essentially bright weight and even the olive outer color wasn't exactly subdued enough to be considered "military" (See Oregano colored REA Talusphere jacket). I returned not only because it leaked, but because it wasn't "gear" enough for me. I ended up getting a 5.11 jacket primarily because it truly was low vis.

>>34491990
do those foam rollers actually help back problems ?

>>34492323
I guess you have to carry 12 mags since they only can hold 10 rounds each or something?

>>34492345
Nicer picture than the other ones you posted.

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>>34492449
yes nothing illegal here agent.

>>34492323
I have that same radio, shits pretty fun. You HAM certified?

>>34492507
yes nothing illegal here agent.

>>34492515
uh, are you telling me you can't own that withouta HAM license? because I don't have one ofthose, I was just curious.

What reading materials did you use for the test?

>>34492323
Cool setup, did you pull the tags off your mattress?

>>34492287
BATTLE JACKET
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goddamn i love those things

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>>34492449
>>34491925

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>>34492527
its totally legal to own and use on low power on the FRS and GMRS channels. I don't have a ham license and they would never catch you if you didnt do anything with repeaters. I really like my radios but the chargers are cancer.

>>34492536
no nothing illegal here agent.

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>>34492563
the normal smokes will fit for sure, i am not sure about eg18x's as they are much bigger. I am pretty sure i have seen a airshit youtuber using a 10speed pouch for eg18x's

>>34491990
I read it. How

>>34492564
What kind of antennae is that? Also Im asking because I don't lnow shit about radios and am looking for reading material

>>34492563
If they fit a beer bottle they will fit a EG18x
>>34492564
Have you been using aersol cans for intended uses only?

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>>34491990
No, eat a dick

>/gq/ approved LBE + IFAK + More (READ FIRST)
https://pastebin.com/8wjMuz3w
>/gq/ approved IFAK(Medical) guide
https://pastebin.com/LMC5BWED
>/k/ holster list
https://pastebin.com/4mi0WzZH
>join us on Discord https://discordapp.com/invite/G5vpCMU

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>>34492604
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y2SPE4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>34492626
have you been keeping off the grass?

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>>34492643
>have you been keeping off the grass?
Its legal now duuude

>>34492564
>its totally legal to own and use on low power on the FRS and GMRS channels.
Says the resident retard Calicuck.
Not it isn't legal, as it isn't approved, regardless of power output. Even on low power output, 2 watts IIRC it still is above limit, it not being approved notwithstanding.

Not I'm not saying that you shouldn't use your UV5R on FRS or GMRS, in fact that is basically their best usage, a cheap high power walkie that can do HAM in a pinch, but don't go telling people something is legal when it isn't.

Nice picture and setup by the way.

>>34492643
thanks senpai

so Rush24 or Rush72? I just found out that the Rush24 only has 3 molle loops on the sides, and every pouch I own needs 4, but the Rush72 is fuckhuge and 50 bucks more

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>>34492650
economically it makes sense but its still degenerate

>>34492669
no bully i'm repeating what i was told buy ham fags in these threads

>>34492685
there are a lot more options for packs in that same price range you should relax and take your time to shop around.

>>34492697
really what Im looking for is the molle webbing and something tough, it doesnt have tobe that brand. if I werent poor I'd go TAD

>>34492650
prohibited person you can't legally own guns if you're a worthless dumb stoner

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Yeah so Hammocks are nice.

Didn't get to use my JPC this weekend, was around family basically the whole time.

Can confirm a 45-70 kills things dead.

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>>34492345
>30k of credit card debt

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>>34492745
>35

>>34492783
You poor bastard.

Just declare bankruptcy now and get it over with.

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>>34492803
no

>>34492783
think you could have used some of that for a decent camera.

>>34492827
You inevitably will.

Until you declare bankruptcy, every piece of gear you buy is at risk of getting repo'd.

>>34492852
>>34492866
nah
>no more gear pics
well, i'm done here

>>34492885
Don't let it set in.

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>>34492697
>No bully i'm repeating what i was told by ham fags in these threads
Hey man I didn't bully that much, I said nice setup and picture. Also nice rare pepe.

To clarify, FRS is restricted to half a watt, which is less than the UV5Rs lowest power setting, and GMRS while restricted to 50 watts on most channels, is restricted to 5 watts on some channels. GMRS requires a license, and both FRS and GMRS are restricted to usage on FCC approved radios for FRS and GMRS, the UV5R not being one of these approved radios.

MURS is restricted to 2 watts, so low power Baofengs should be okay, but also restricted to MURS approved radios, the UV5R not being on of them.

The bottom line is that using a Baofeng in almost anyway is illegal other than as a licensed HAM, but we all do it anyway. If you're going to be breaking the law you sure as hell better know what you're breaking, and why it is bullshit. But I wouldn't expect such a freeman's attitude from a calicuck.

Long story short, MURS, and FRS are definitely good to go. Avoid GMRS and HAM obviously if you're trying to stay on the safe side. Dabble in GMRS if you want, and if you start messing with HAM recognize that of all the usages of a UV5R, unlicensed HAM usage is the most likely to get your in trouble and the most trouble you'll get in. Not that it is all that likely anyway.

>>34492743
You have a 45-70? That is sweet.

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Apparently milsurp thread is for guns only so I'll ask this here. I'm interested in an E-tool to keep in my truck and use up north. I'm thinking milsurp since all the civilian market ones don't seem to last. Can anyone suggest a study and dependable one? I know I have heard that some shovels from some time periods are better than others.

I just got a USGI one for 18 at my local milsurp shack, havent used it much but it feels sturdy

>>34493142
meant for
>>34493118

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>>>34488004
>This might be the wrong place to ask but what would be a good winter coat for snowy conditions?
PCU
C
U

>>34493118
I've got one of the usgi ones. It's pretty solid and saved my ass a couple of times in the last few years in blizzards.

>>34488004
>>34493165
i use a ll bean storm chaser jacket and ECWCS GORE-TEX pants for a water proof layer. I wear the fleece liner that comes with the storm chaser and a marine corps polertec fleece with m81 winter weight bdu pants with the liners. i also sometimes wear a silky base layer >>34492564
i wore some of it in the snow and it turned out to be way more then necessary even at night.

>>34493324
>california
>giving advice on cold weather gear
??????
>>34492736
>>34492697
Im just pulling your leg(s). Put all the weedfags in the camps

>>34493355
go look at a topographic map of California and you will realize how stupid you are.

Anyone keep your gun cleaning kit in a MOLLE pouch? I was thinking of getting two 5.11 6.10 verticals for my AK and AR cleaning kits but I didn;t realize how fucking big they are

>>34493382
>its a flyover stater thinks california is all sand and palm trees episode

>>34493382
Even in my time up north (Nevada county) it isnt cold
>>34493416
Or I spent 10+ years there all up and down the state?

>>34493439
sounds like you were drunk bud but it gets cold.
Maybe not for someone like you but for us mortals its nice to have some cold weather gear from time to time, you know?

>>34493324
That sounds pretty comfy.
So what's your color/camo profile with all of that on? Coyote+woodland?

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>>34493355
it gets cold in the sierras
>>34493475
this is me >>34492564
that's what i look like with it all on. i also have a snow camo poncho.

>>34493439
the feeling of cold is relative, but California has large mountains and snow which counts as "cold". your not going to survive in certain parts of the state in the middle of winter in jeans and a sweat shirt. we aren't saying its fucking north Dakota up in this bitch but California is probably the only state that has every type of outdoor situation you can run into.

>>34493520
>California is probably the only state that has every type of outdoor situation you can run into.
Has no jungles :^)

>>34493548
jungle just means an area of land overgrown with dense forest and tangled vegetation. the typical thought its that its tropical rainforests. california has temperate rainforests in the north west.

>>34493520
>the feeling of cold is relative
Are we going to re-litigate Johnson's "subjective cold" now? I'm in

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>>34493783

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I bought a new hat, do you like it?

>>34493845
are you Turkish

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>>34493815
>Stay warm in front of your computer

>tfw no multicam snuggie
>tfw only Turkish woodland camo version

I got a helmet sitting on top of my accordion case because my room is too filled with crap.

>>34493866
How rude >:0
No i am not Turkish

>>34491990
Where is the pastebin

>>34493886
here you go, senpai
https://pastebin.com/XLnt705P

>>34493882
you look like Cenk Uygur's half jewish son
>>34493886
the pastebin was shit

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I just bought a PIG PC from SKDTAC should I buy AK mag pouches or use my SADF chest rig over it?

>>34493783
>re-litigate Johnson's "subjective cold"
I dont know what that is

all i know is that people who tend to spend more time in cold climates are more used to it and dont feel as cold compared to someone who lives in a hot climate for a majority of their time.

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>>34493904
How extremely rude of you

>>34493943
kinda depends what you're trying to do. I would get pouches.

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>>34494095
I was thinking pouches but how many mags should I carry? I know we carry 7 for FTX and in general, but I was thinking 9 total mags. Maybe put some on a battle belt. Which a good recommendation would be sweet. Can I use my riggers belt as the inside of the battle belt or is it not stiff enough?

>>34493886
>>34493896
Trip is being mean, here you go anon.
https://pastebin.com/8wjMuz3w

I have all of the pastebin links saved, I was going to make this thread but the old one took too long to hit bump limit and I was busy.

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What are my options for packs covered in MOLLE? preferebly one that has more than 3 loops on the side, because 5.11's own vertical bags don't even fit on the Rush24 side loops, pic related

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Rig's are best

>>34494407
Have you tried looking at pouches from other manufacturers besides 5.11?

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>>34494481
Not yet, been looking at other bags first, like pic related


Why would 5.11 do that? Make a vertical pouch that wouldn't fit on the side of anything except their most expensive backpack? Did I just answer my own question?

>>34494501
http://www.optactical.com/soutla3cowi.html
This specifically states it requires 3 columns of webbing to fit. Velcro/buckle closure may not be what you want though.

http://www.optactical.com/blfohewhmeve.html
You can also look into this, doesn't state how many columns it requires and no photos of the back side. Check the manufacturer website, they probably have more info or pictures.

One other option that comes to mind is the ATS Small vertical GP pouch. I tried to pull up more info for you but my internet is really slow and I ran out of patience so yeah.

>>34494787
thanks for going out of your way man, I'll look into those options. I'd prefer a zipper but if it holds the items I want to put in there I'll keep an eye on it

>>34494118
6 or 8 mags (180-220 rounds) is the norm. Not sure if that includes the mag in your primary but I assume it doesn't.

>>34495104
>8x30=220

>>34495138
fug, you got me meant 240 please rape my face

Is there a pastebin for gear color? Or something to help choose gear color? I can't decided on a coyote brown or ranger green plate carrier. My area of operation is the central Midwest.

>>34495200
I'm giving you a hard time, I was saying 9 including in my AK so 8 spare. Or maybe 7 regular and two RPK mags

>>34495222
I'm just 'avin a giggle meeself m8

>>34495212
No pastebin, there was an image a while back that had an outline of the CONUS with areas filled in for where certain camos work well. I was never a huge fan of that though.

Just post pics of your area in the various seasons and we can make recommendations.

>>34495212
Ranger will probably be too bright most of the year if you arent innawoods. The easiest thing you can do is go buy some cheap condor mag pouches in various colors and throw them in the brush/woods/whatever. Only you can decide what camo is good for you

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>>34495212
The closest thing I have is pic related but for best results you should acquire a swatch of various patterns and test them out in your specific AO

>>34495268
this is shit and really not accurate

>>34495268
Trash map that hasn't been updated since Multicam variants came out and was honestly a piece of shit map when it was originally posted.

>>34495212
ranger green or coyote gear
m81 woodland uniforms literally works in every environment

>>34495291
>>34495296
There's a reason I said "for best results" my fellow autists, I'm aware of how subjective the map is.

>>34495319
never post that map again, delete it, then turn off your computer, and then kill yourself

>>34495319
Yeah but like, honestly, it's not even worth posting the map because it's ridiculously inaccurate and was designed by a poorfag which is pretty obvious when you see flecktarn and MARPAT-WD covering a significant portion of the US.

A general map could honestly be covered by the entire spectrum of the Multicam family but the best map would include a ton of obscure meme camouflages like Jaba.

>>34495341
>like Jaba.
Good for blending in with hohols and yourself, nowhere else.

>>34495388
I can confirm it works in Pennsylvania and Florida :^

Also really good for pepe cosplay

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>>34494407
Check out the Camelback Motherlode.

I've got it and dig it.

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>>34494407
>>34495452
Might be a better shot here.

>>34495244
>Ranger will probably be too bright most of the year if you arent innawoods.

That's what I was thinking too. The Great Plains can get pretty dry, and things turn tan/brown. On the flip side we've had quite a bit of rain this year and it's pretty green right now.

>>34495452
the new haley chest rigs are so stupid unless you have an m203. who the fuck needs 4 pistol mags. It was better with the bungie so you could have a water bottle or smoke grenade in there.

>>34495532
I like it. 4 pistol mags may be excessive, but you can fit other shit in there. A leatherman, or flashlight for instance.

>>34495586
filling holes with shit you dont need to carry that accessible. you should have a headlamp and a weapon light and your multitool can go on a pouch off of your actual fighting load.

>>34495331
th-th-thanks...

Anyone have any experience with the Ops Core bump helmet? Wanting a helmet and not trying to spend 3k

>>34495626
A flashlight and leatherman are perfectly acceptable to have on a rig.

>>34495642
whatever you say

>>34494407
Budget? How much volume do you want the pack to have?

>>34494471
Absolute shit photo. What were you thinking?

>>34494471
>>34495665

I wasn't going to say anything before, but seriously. My brain can't even register what is in this photo.

It's low resolution. That's bad.
On top of that, it's blury.
ON TOP OF THAT, it's sideways.

Furthermore, you're using apostrophes incorrectly.

I suggest you throw away the literal potato you used to take this picture and use a camera next time.

>>34492827
>>34492345
Where is this?

>>34495772
Arizona, giddy took a vacation there and liked it. It appeals to his mexican sensibilities

>>34494296
Thanks, friend.

>>34495477
That's why people like Multicam, because of the way it works it adapts to suit the environment around it. Is there a reason why you're married to solid colors?

>>34495341
>>34495388
Would there be interest in an AI-generated camo map 2.0?

A crawler harvests GPS-tagged outdoor photos from across the US and aggregate them into regions, then a computer-vision neural network matches up camo patterns with regions.

It should at bare minimum get the basic colors and shades right. And with enough data you could flip through seasons, time of day, etc

>>34495796
go fuck your mother

>>34495858
Honestly I think that would be a neat idea. Isn't that how Finland created M/05?

>>34495772
Somewhere between $30-35,000 in credit card debt :^

>>34491990
Can I mount an RMR on any 4x acog? It seems like some of them I've seen can't do it out of the box but can you buy stuff from Trijicon to mount it?

>>34495866
That is exactly what you would say as a mexican, I bet you retyped this post in english after writing it in spanish
>>34495858
That wouldnt work

>>34495875
Trijicon makes adapters for both the ACOGs with "bosses" and without. so yes.

>>34495900
Why not

>>34495916
Ok great. Thank you.

>>34495900
don't you have some taxes to pay, i need more gibs.

>>34495873
40

>>34492386
Thanks for your answer. Yes I'll stick to /out/ related gear. I'm by no means wealthy or "rollin in dough" but I get a piece of gear here and there and make it worth while by sticking to the best like arcteryx and such. The pic I posted isn't mine, just and example of what I have.
>>34492259
It's not my pic, just an example. Someday when I have everything I want in my /out/ gear setup I might post it here for comparison but I don't ever feel complete I'm always getting new things.
>>34492252
You don't trust yourself to carry appendix huh? That's okay it took me a while too, but I've been carrying appendix with just a trigger guard for a while.

>>34495212
do coyote

>>34495772
my bad, it's in New Mexico

32.032920, -106.522205

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>>34495733
Blows my mind just how shit half of the images are that get posted around here.


Hey guys can anyone with a UV5R do me a favor? Can you pop off your on/off/volume knob, it just pulls straight up and off, and measure the approximate shaft diameter of the power/volume switch/potentiometer?

I'm getting 185 thousandths of an inch, 0.185", or about 4.7mm by measure the diameter from curve side to curved side. Is that the correct way to measure d shaft diameter?

Measured flat of the D to curved part is 0.157" or 4mm

I ask because I'm trying to grab a replacement D-Shaft knob for my UV5R, and I don't see any 4.7mm/0.185" D-shaft diameter knobs out there.

I do see 4mm knobs though...

Thanks for the help guys. This is for an attempt to fix a problem with the MSW/TacticalTailor UV5R pouch where it slides from side to side.

>>34496487
I got a maximum diameter of 0.188", it's a D shaft

I see 4mm and 5mm knobs.

Based on some searching, I think 5mm is the right size, all the replacement pots have 5mm shafts. Here's and example on Amazon: B01MU751MR

>>34496620
Did some more measuring and searching. The width of the flat section itself seems to be a solid 3mm, and the "diameter", or better the distance from the flat face to the outer curved face seems to be a solid 4mm.

Seems like a 4mm shaft, 3mm flat D knob as they call it. Which is weird because the replacement pots you linked say 5mm shaft diameter, which doesn't match up to any of the measurements we got since 0.188" is 4.77mm

Found something decent that is about twice as tall as the factory knob, but it might be a bit wide to fit in the recess. Minimum order from the manufacturer is 500 pieces though so might have to call tomorrow.

https://www.selcoproducts.com/products/d-shafts-with-compression-ring-with-line-knob-dak151-004

I guess you could also go with a 5mm set screw knob and just torque the set screw down.

>>34496709
Want me to just 3D print you some knobs?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:486444

I can also model custom ones pretty easily.

>>34496744
This one looks very close to OEM
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1693102

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>>34496744
>>34496781
Additionally, these models have 5mm shafts holes.

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>>34496744
Dude if you custom model one that would be killer, and I would totally buy it from you. What matters most is that it is taller, and stays on well. Stock knob seems to be 12mm tall, and I think 20-25mm tall or so would do the trick. Maybe the other guys will buy them as well.

Could you take the OEM one and just extrude it up?

I can't find any 4.7-5mm shaft set screw knobs either, which is weird since that seems like it would be common.

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>>34492057
they way you layout your stuff remind me of this

>>34496802
But not D-Shaft holes? So these guys are just squeezing them on?

Maybe it makes more sense to you man idk.

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>>34496854
>Could you take the OEM one and just extrude it up?
Like this?

The OEM style knob has a D-hole.

>>34496891
You are kangz my friend

>>34496891
Might need to extrude inner shaft as well though.
Seriously I'll pay ya for these.

>>34496932
I'll fiddle with the model and make a couple.

Don't worry about paying me. The bulk of the modeling is already done, I just need to tweak it. Hell, I might just ask my girlfriend really nicely to do it. She's WAY better at 3D modeling than I am.

>>34492221
The gear queer shit like>>34491998 is exceedingly temporary, 48 hours at most. No idea why someone would pack 12 mags like an assault load but bother with what appears to be a sleeping bag. Just shed the bag and be honest with yourself.

>>34496962
mmhm, I just did a quick test to see if I could easily extrude the existing model since it's a SolidWorks file and I run Inventor.

The girlfriend uses SolidWorks at work, so it would be super-quick for her to do whatever you want to the existing model.

>>34496963
I appreciate it man regardless. Any congrats on the taco. Definitely better for the bikes and for shooting.

>>34496858
i wish, then i could be free

>>34497310
I will shoot you in the face if you want.

>>34493845

Stop dicking around and get a move on, Private Pyle! Move it! Move it!

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Am I doin it right?

>>34492852
kek

Could you guys recommend me a quality respirator? I don't really care about price, I need something that'll cover dust and fumes. I know 3m makes some good ones but I don't know models

How do Russian plate standards compare to our standards?

>>34499613
Russian size 2 granit plate is just a tad higher/wider than a 10x12 plate.

>>34499799
How about in regards to saftey levels?

>>34499799
I think he meant protection standards

What do you guys think I should have on a chest rig for just shooting in/wearing while I fuck around in the woods/camping trips/the chinese invading and that kind of stuff. Obviously mags and some sort of FAK but what else? Would be worn with BOB/Camping bag full of camping gear, cleaning kit, food, water filter, etc.

>>34499583
MSA Millenium

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>>34500816
Watch garand thumb's YouTube video on his chest rig setup. Chest rig setups can be pretty subjective when it comes to hiking and camping. I usually keep what I think I'm going to use the most in it(besides ammo and ifak). I usually just have one rifle mag in it, a monocular, and my pistol, and fak contents.

>>34500254
>>34500248
6A is pretty much level IV. But it's ICW.

>>34492564
What pants are those?

>>34500988

>>34493324

>>34495341
Come back to /AKG/ with your shitty DDI

>>34500988
ecwcs woodland goretex pants. mine are made by orc industries

>>34500867
That's pretty badass, is that current issue? It seems pretty top of the line. I dig the ones with full face shields

>>34501011
Nice, clean setup, famalamadingdong.

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>>34501268
Millenium is standard issue for a lot of European SF, mainly KSK

>>34501083
Thanks

>>34501356
Very nice, do you have first hand experience with it? I wonder if I can find em on Amazon

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Anyone know of any good hydro carriers? Preferably with molle compatibility.

Pic for attention

>>34501356
And people say flecktarn is a dead meme.

>>34501457
I don't but a buddy of mine does, says it's top of the line and fairly comfortable. Also retains full fov.

>>34501011
Yo what's the handguard you have?

>>34492073
go get aids you faggot

>>34491990
Anybody have the Gear Queer Discord?

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>>34492697
>>34492736
Plebs.

>>34495296
>Multicam variants
no need to update the trash map because those mc variants are all trash too

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>>34501350
Thanks homie.
>>34501743
Spike's SAR3. I actually enjoy it.

>>34502124
Here ya go
>https://discord.gg/naXSN
It expires in an hour

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It's missing my basic Gen 3 Glock 17 but rate?

How big of a pack should I get if I want it to be an all purpose thing (good for 3+ days) 60l?

>>34494296
>https://pastebin.com/8wjMuz3w
Hm, I think I saw different pastebin on IFAKs with different content, one for /k/ommandos and on for simple hiking and it was in first post of /gq/

>>34502760
60l is a fine size.

I've moved away from that though and actually gone for a frameless USGI assault pack with attached waistpack, two canteen pouches, IFAK, and IFAK pouch for incidental stuff. I'd say all together it's roughly equal to about 45L of internal space counting all the pouches and it's nice and firm. No jiggle of the internals and everything is well organized.

>>34501009
I'll consider it.

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>>34493062
put your rifle on safe please

>>34502876
Here you go kouhai https://pastebin.com/LMC5BWED

Like I said, I have all the pastebin links saved. Hopefully I can create the next thread and make /gq/'s OP great again.

>>34495665
Whoops didn't know this thread is still around. I'd like to keep it around 100 but I'll go a little higher if it really looks worth it. The image j had in my head was a MOLLE covered pack, two vertical bags on the sides for cleaning kits and tools, and my IFAK/E-Tool bags side by side on the back pockets. Not so much a BoB but a general daytime shooting/camping bag. The Rush24 is almost exactly what I want, except for 5.11s vertical brands are one loop too wide to fit on the sides. I'm kind of afraid to try something 3 loops wide from some rando brand on Amazon but that looks like what I'm left with, unless you know some good ones

>>34502476
Mind giving me another? Was offline at the time.

>>34493062
.45-70 is my shit, though I gotta get a reloading set up going cause that stuff eats up my wallet.

>>34506370
Here you go https://discordapp.com/invite/G5vpCMU

>>34506482
Yeah I'll probably have to do this at some point.

I really want to make some insane loads through reloading too.

>>34506683
What ammo are you using right now?

>>34506526
>https://discordapp.com/invite/G5vpCMU
Doesn't work.

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>>34506710
I'm just running Hornady Leverlution

Pushes a 325gr bullet at around 1600 FPS from an 18" barrel.

>>34506754
https://discord.gg/PzfBSE
Here ya go, it expires in 1 day

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>>34496858

What is this image?

>>34506991
Hm, must be banned from it. Damn.

Thanks anyways man

>>34507194
I think some french SOF guy got shot in africa and they laid him out with all his shit. Or something like that.
Hey GQ I'm looking for some durable pants and shit.

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>>34507194
>>34507213

>>34507258
Poor baguette. :^(

>>34507258
>died duel wielding mp7s

>>34507443
>duel wielding

>>34507465
gotta challenge those muslim niggers to single combat.

>>34507443
RIP CIAdude420

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First Tactical Specialist 1-day pack vs Rush24 pack?

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>>34502268

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>>34502887
But the hammer isn't back?

>>34505260
LAPG packs look decent for the money. Some of their stuff is durable enough to be considered good to go. AWS makes an LBT knockoff that seems decent also.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapg-bg-72h-pack-atlas.html

https://www.awsin.com/products.asp?id=106
First bit of my July 4th order came in.

I'll start with the bad. I knew that 10x12" was a nominal plate size, and that often 10x12" plates aren't actually 10x12". I ordered a set of 10x12" plates from Armour Wear, level IV ceramics, but they appear to be 9.5"x11.25"
Maybe 9.75x11.75" if you're going to be generous. I'm kinda upset because I thought they were going to be an honest 10x12", or at least an honest 9.8"x11.8" or so. I mean you really gotta stretch to say these are 10x12....

Quality appears meh. My HESCO plates were definitely nicer, but these were quite cheap.

Does anyone have any 10x12" ceramics they can measure?

I'm strongly considering calling them and at least asking for an explanation. I'm kinda a wide guy and I was really hoping for that 10" wide plate.

In other good news, the HSGI AO chest rig came, as well as the Tactical Tailor Fight Light Smoke/Flash pouch, my second ATS Small Upright GP pouch, and the Velocity Systems swift clips.

HSGI chest rig seems quite good. I'm excited to eventually upgrade my ATS war belt to the HSGI sure grip because the quality is clearly there. TT Fight Light smoke pouch seems solid so far. Good construction and some rubber backing as well. Smaller than I thought it would be, but it should fit a single EG18X no problem.

ATS Small Upright GP is as good as the first one I bought obviously. These make great Nalgene pouches I've found. Good quality.

Velocity systems swift clips are simple little pieces, but the quality makes me excited for my Velocity Systems Lightweight Plate Carrier that should be shipping in a few days.

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>>34508330
how the fuck is anyone around you supposed to know that.

>points 1911 in your face
>LOL IT'S UNLOADED BRO, HAMMER'S DOWN, CHILL OUT LMAO!!!!1111

>>34504368
>https://pastebin.com/LMC5BWED
thanks my dude

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>>34508330
> but it should fit a single EG18X no problem.
Put a beer bottle in it, if it fits then it fits
>These make great Nalgene pouches
Stop putting nalgenes on your gear, what the fuck dude.

>>34508477
I shoot with other people all the time and it isn't an issue. Sorry I'm civilian.
Not going to charge the weapon on an empty chamber just to flip it to safe for morons without mental flexibility.

If my AR is on safe that means there is a round in the chamber and the hammer is back. If my AR is on fire I'm either in the middle of shooting it, or it is being stored for the time being.

>>34508477
Good news my dude, I was there when he took that photo and I didnt die.

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>>34508511
Water is important? 3L is what most hydration bladders hold, and tons of guys use those.

Beer can fits perfectly, if a tiny bit snug.

>>34508543
> 3L is what most hydration bladders hold, and tons of guys use those.
I question the bulk of 3 1L nalgenes + pouches vs a single hydration carrier.

>Beer can fits perfectly, if a tiny bit snug.
Did i say can? Can is larger than an EG18X

>>34508536

what animal's penis is that?

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>>34508615
Dolphin I think

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>>34508610
You did indeed say bottle. Welp.

I want to keep my back clear for packs and vehicles, with the full understanding of how shitty it is to have a pack over a carrier. Nalgenes also are useful in different ways than bladders as they are rigid and can act as general containers. Plus they are obviously more durable.

Total volume quite literally cannot be that much different. Obviously form factor differs, but a 1L nalgene is comparable to a double taco pouch. Ain't no thang. I own a 3L camelback bladder and minimal hydrapack that can always be used in a pinch.

I feel weird about the plates.

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>>34508635
>put bladder in pack
>put a single nalgene on belt
>?????
>PROFIT (pbuh)

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>>34508635
>they are rigid and can act as general containers.
If you had a metal milsurp style canteen I would accept this answer but dont try to boil shit in a nalgene. What are you going to use them for? Catching butterflies? Holding your 22lr stash? Sensitive site exploitation?

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>>34508492

>>34508665
http://www.optactical.com/olspsacup.html
Other than that I agree with you, carrying more than one Nalgene is dumb.

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>>34508665
I'll be honest catching butterflies was the primary secondary purpose, but what is sensitive site exploitation?

In my experience bladders get gross, can't be used for making beverage base powder, don't scoop water well, aren't ideal for treating water with tabs, and are less durable. Single quart canteens got tons of guys through nam. Water bottles aren't that bad.

I promise I'll stop at 3 Nalgenes. I might buy another ATS small upright GP to replace the tactical tailor canteen pouch though since I don't like it much.

>>34508635
Another downside of canteens or bottles is unless they are completely full or completely empty they will make sloshing noises when you move.

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>>34508716
>http://www.optactical.com/olspsacup.html
Thanks dude now he is going to add 6 of these to his rig
>>34508722
>In my experience bladders get gross, can't be used for making beverage base powder, don't scoop water well, aren't ideal for treating water with tabs, and are a lot less durable.
Thats why I told you 1 nalgene and a bladder read >>34508653

>I promise I'll stop at 3 Nalgenes
I never want to hear this in my life

>>34508543
Tell this guy I like his AR and would appreciate a list of parts.

>>34508716
>http://www.optactical.com/olspsacup.html
I have 2 of those. Want another.

Only as dumb as carrying more than one single quart canteen.

>Eternal child, Physics undergraduate, Critical thinker, Former Bomb Tech Answered Apr 21, 2015 I never drank out of a canteen once I got out of TRADOC (OSUT and Airborne). In Iraq and Afghanistan, most of us just used water bottles. You get your drinking water from pallets of water bottles, why waste time putting it in another container? Water bottles are lighter than canteens and when you're done with it, just ditch it or crush it and pack it away. Need more water? Throw more bottles in your pack. Some people use camelbaks but I didn't bother with them. I have seen dudes pop them from rough handling (resulting in their gear getting wet) or bite valves get nasty or just come off so water leaks continuously.

He's talking about cheap plastic water bottles but there is some overlap.

More importantly? Are there any 10x12" plates that are actually 10x12"?

>>34508738
That is my old AR.
It wasn't very nice but it shot 1k rounds just fine before I sold it.

(((Magpul))) SL stock
(((Magpul))) K2 Grip
Aero lower
Lancer mag
Hardened Arms barreled and assembled upper
CMX Houlding Precision Keymod rail 13" (Discontinued, might be able to find it)
16" Heavy profile carbine gas 1/7 twist barrel
Strike Industries (avoid most of their stuff) J Comp
PSA NiB BCG
BCM Keymod Rail covers
MBUS PRO irons
(((FAB Defense MAKO))) PTK and VTS AFG and Thumbrest combo with paracord on the AFG.

Sold it for $900 once I was done with it, and they call me a bad jew...

>>34508766
>I have 2 of those. Want another.
Oh nice, do you have the steel or aluminum version? I'm assuming since you own multiple and want another you like them, any complaints? Been wanting to get one myself but haven't had the money to drop on a big order (I like buying a bunch of stuff at once and saves me money with the flat rate shipping).

>>34508766
>>34508330
M8 you realize Medium SAPIs are only 9.5" wide?

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>>34508861
Forgot pic

>>34507258
>second image
>dat terrorist social media banter
kek

>>34508826
I've got two of the stainless steel olicamp ones. I ordered them from OPT. Haven't used them over a fire or anything unfortunately so can't talk about that. They stay at the bottom of my god forsaken nalgene pouches, and give the pouches a nice skeleton that makes it easier to put a Nalgene back in. They're pretty light.

You could cook in one in a pinch for sure. Stainless containers are nice to have.

>>34508861
then they should advertise the plates as medium sapi cut not 10x12

>>34508861
Are medium SAPIs standard or are large standard?

I really could use the extra width though.
I ordered 10x12" and was expecting like at least 9.8x11.8"

These are more realistically 9.6x11.6" or something. More about the principle than anything else I guess. $285 shipped so can't complain too much.

Oh they are NIJ 04/05 level IV
Is that just an older testing procedure? Any big differences?

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>>34508892
But mediums are 12.5" tall, and these are definitely not that.

Basically they're just small ass 10x12"s and that is lame since they are advertised as 10x12"s.

>>34508778
So wait is that you in the pic?

>>34508909
No. Just a kind man I met in the woods who gave me beer because I was out of water. Hence the obsession with having lots of Nalgenes on my loadout. Not having water sucks hard.

What 3l hydration bladder should I get?

>>34509847
It is nice to have a real camelbak bladder. Cheaper bladders are more prone to leaking and breaking.


Highcom 10x12"s confirmed on their website to actually be 9.5x11.5"

https://highcomsecurity.com/products/guardian-4sas-7?variant=361422133
>Cut: The 10” x 12” shooters cut and multi-curve shooters cut plates are considered nominal and the actual measurement is 9.5” x 11.5”

Anyone know if Hesco 4400 10x12"s are true 10x12"?

So is the slingster out of production or some shit wtf

Any comperable padded 2 point slings, that come in ranger green? I'd grab the snickers sling but both greens it comes in suck ass

>>34509847
Source. They may be jews but their bladders are stronger and stay cleaner than Camelbaks.

So my baofeng uv-5r with the extended battery comes in today,
Where/how should I mount it it? It's going on my pc somewhere but I'm not sure

>>34509847

MSR Dromedary.

>>34510599
The VTAC padded sling comes in Foliage Meme.

What are some good radios to use? I know of the Bowchang meme but other than that I know nothing. Also are there any good radios that use replaceable batteries rather than rechargeable?

>>34511135
what pc?
Just buy a generic GP pouch that's slightly larger than it. At worst buy an HSGI mini radio pouch or something but nothing too fancy.

Most people do front left.

>>34507210
Have you been on before?

a2grip is an fbi informant

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>>34513776
Delet

>>34492563
Be careful of overstretching ten speed pouches, unless you're dedicating that pouch to whatever it is for good

>>34511135
Mine is on my right hip, kinda towards the back. I've got the MSW/TT pouch. It was having this weird issue where it was flopping sideways but calvinn may have fixed that by drafting up a CAD of a replacement power knob that is taller. He's gonna 3D print some. They should keep the pouch from moving side to side.

>>34513776
Can confirm. Like if I'm ever going to get V& it will be because of entrapment caused by him.

>>34514053
Can you create the malfunction yourself and take a picture? I've never been able to understand this from your description. I've also never handled the pouch so there's that.

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We are all fags edition

R8/H8/APRECI8

>>34507923
They are big guys

>>34514225
Get an arcteryx assault balaclava
>>34514053
>Can confirm.
Pfft
>implying you wont already be in a cia fingernail factory in poland

>>34514225
Rainbow Six Lockdown/10

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>>34514225
>>34514249
STACK UP

>>34514225
Your flag is backwards.

>>34514497
loolololololololol

>>34514262
Fuck I love cold weather operating. I bought into the whole PCU meme too. And now I'm moving to phoenix.

>>34514756
What sizes? I might buy it off you if phoenix melts them

Can someone explain why level 3a soft armor costs more than level 3 plates, even though it offers less protection?
(also, where is the best place to get some 3a armor)

>>34514837
>Can someone explain why level 3a soft armor costs more
Depends where you look but generally soft armor is purchased less often and usually integrated into a carrier.


http://bulletproofme.com/Bullet_proof_Vests_Catalog.shtml

>>34514803
Level 1, 2, 5 tops in small-reg, l2 and l5 pants large-reg. All block 0 except the l5 pants (patagonia). And ECWCS level 7 jacket small-short and medium-reg pants. Using a TAD Equilibrium jacket as l3.

Also have a level 6 jacket that i love to death, which I think will still be good in warm weather.

>>34492221
>Has anyone here actually done multiple day hikes with all your gear outside of your military days? How do you guys plan on keeping your gear lightweight?
I don't think anyone here plans to do such, it's just wearing cool shit and playing soldier.

It isn't like most militaries ever did do that, there'd be pack wagons and such and day long forced marches were done in extenuating circumstances.

>>34500928
Moar cat pics pls :3

>>34514238
Not slav enough

>>34514262
COME FIGHT ME SENPAI

>>34514497
Mo'fuckin mirror pic

yo, kinda weird request.

I need to have two radios which can continuously talk and receive to each other. Like, they will both always be listening and transmitting. i.e. VOX with no cutoff, and they are talking on the frequency the other is listening and visa versa etc

what could do this?

>>34514166
Yes will do later tonight for sure!

>>34514225
Not bad. Resize though.

>>34514756
>>34514803
I am excited for snow operating this winter dude.

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>>34515410
>I am excited for snow operating this winter dude.
Bullshit you will go all "its too cold"
>>34515399
Baofeng could do it Basically you have one channel you are listening on and another you are transmitting on. Then you program your radio as such and it will be as easy as pressing the talk button. You could also do this with a repeater for full party line mode.

However I must caution you, if you dont know what youre doing you will probably end up stepping on hamfag feet and will fell the wrath of their rascal scooters.

>>34515399
Have each person get two radios, one with the transmit button taped down (route to mic) and the other passive (route to headphone)

>>34515587
that wouldn't be full duplex though would it? I need it to be able to talk over each other simultaneously

>>34515657
>that wouldn't be full duplex though would it? I need it to be able to talk over each other simultaneously
Nope, sounds like you want some trunked stuff or a setup like >>34515617 suggested

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>>34515729
No thanks

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>>34515748
how about now

>>34515714
I might just get one of those motorcycle headset intercoms. They seem to be full duplex(?)

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Should I get a Gorka? How warm/cool are they to wear, like what would you equate it to? What is the sizing like for them, I have heard they run large?

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>>34515988
They run real big because they are an outer layer that you layer under. The benefit of this baggy design is that you can layer it and wear it most of the time if you are in somewhere that isnt a hot shithole.

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>>34516678

My nomex flight gloves have finally worn out what gloves should I get?

>>34516833
Under $50 would be nice.

>>34516833
more nomex gloves, outdoor research iornsights, mechanix

>>34516678
Are you in a militia or some shit?

>>34516850
Which mechanix glove should I get? http://www.mechanix.com/woodland-camouflage

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>>34516860
it's from a /k/ meet

>>34516895
they have a bunch of different styles and you can go to any walmart and get them in the autoparts section.

>>34516860
He's actually an ISIS fighter, just look at that beard.
>>34516933
Please tell me you saved the shop that someone did of the patch on your PC?

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>>34517048
this?

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Different rig, different pose.


Still not resized

>>34517070
That would be the one

>>34517192
it's really a tired joke man i don't know why you keep bringing it up like you think it's so funny.

>>34517206
This is the first time I've ever brought it up. I actually have a super similar beard so I feel your pain. I just thought in the context of him asking about a militia+me wanting the shooped picture I would post the joke.

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