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>pencil barrel
>UL
>crabon handguard
>one piece buffer/stock

How much weight is there to save by using alternatives to standard bcg/poorfag forged receivers without sacrificing reliability or compatibility with ammo?
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>>34484685
I've always wanted to experiment with light bolt carriers.

the problem is that the inertia of the carrier is the only thing that extracts the spent case. so I imagine there's a limit to how light you can make it before it won't work
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>>34484685
that is fucking hideous, anon.
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>>34484970
it's fucking light, nigga
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>>34484957
I don't think you understand how a gun works, or how physics works. A light carrier would be more easily pushed backwards and forwards because of it's lesser inertia. Doesn't matter if the force is from recoil or a spring.
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>>34484685

You could make it even lighter by drilling some holes in the handguard.
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>>34484685
In theory you can get an AR to under 4lbs without getting into NFA shit like sub-16" barrels.
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>>34484957
When designing the ar15 they specifically increased the weight of the bcg to lessen bolt bounce. The BGC should not be fucked with if you want a reliable rifle
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That is a little ugly but honestly pretty cool desu.

What is the weight on it?
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>>34484685
Delete that carbon handguard and just go with a carbon foam, hollow foregrip. Less material, more utility.
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>>34484685
Its 6lbs not light enough for people? Wtf.
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>>34485156
>a carbon foam

A carbon fucking what?
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>>34484685
Not an AR guy but this is pretty interesting.
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>>34484685
maybe skeletonize to the grip, unless its already ultra lite. A new tan follower GI mag will be lighter and as reliable as that pmag I think. Maybe look it to polycase low grain 5.56 if we are pushing for half ounces. Skeletonize the trigger or make it uber thin. Thats as light as I can think of without skeletonizing the upper like a retard
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>>34485132
Yeah, skeletonize anything that isn't structurally important.
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Remove charging handle. Install side charger handle on bcg. Mill out upper
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>>34485136
It would be interesting to try though.
ops rifle is already down the rabbit hole
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Funny, my oldest niece is fourteen and she has no problem lugging a regular AR-15 through the woods.

Maybe you need to harden the fuck up.
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>>34485385
Just because he wants to lighten something doesn't mean it's too heavy.
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>>34485385
This. If children in africa can carry aks and battlerifles all day so can your bitch ass.
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>>34485601
>>34485385
By the time you shoulder your barbell of a rifle I would have mine up and put three in your chest faggot
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>>34485804
Why go with 3 though? Would 4 just be too unbelievable? 2 isn't impressive enough enough?
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>>34484685
>Magnesium upper and lower
>titanium trigger
>titanium bcg
>carbon fiber grip
>carbon fiber handguard
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>>34484685
20 round mag in the well. 30s on the person if desired. 20 is much easier to maneuver in close quarters.
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>>34485385
Do you have any younger nieces?
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how fucking lite can an ar15 get esp. pistol or sbr. kys op
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>>34484685
you *can* get a 16in ar under3 pounds if only you believe.
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One of these guys
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>>34485939
>>Magnesium upper and lower
>>titanium trigger
>>titanium bcg
>>carbon fiber grip
>>carbon fiber handguard


why?
you dont need magnesium upper and lower 6061 milled out works very well and is cheap.
magnesium is not cheap or strong.

a titanium trigger would suck. its not hard enough. the hammer stand sear need to be very hard to have a clean and crisp disengagement. this is why really cheap rifles have that spungy feel to them.
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>>34486246
Magnesium is very light, and comparably strong to 6061.
Youre right about the titanium. Though you might get ti trigger parts to work if you used the right coatings.
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>>34484982
How much?

3 pounds?
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i don't know how much you fags are into cars, but on /o/ there's is a meme about a toyota engine from initial d. The caption describes how it was a 1000cc aka 1.0 litre engine and they added a stroker kit, honed the bore made it 1.2/1.4 litres, then they added a lighter flywheel, bigger intake and injectors, etc. basically they got an extra 5 or 10 hp out of it. sameshit with this. just because you can billet materials that weigh little less, does not mean you should -- it is stupid. the ar is already light enough... i would get a higher quality bolt and bcg... inb4bully
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>>34486386
Well yeah this. Don't fuck with the bcg. I'm all for reshaping the lower reciever, shaving the rails off the upper and cf furniture but don't fuck with Stoner and Sullivan's internal design. If anything they wanted heavier carriers, not lighter for proper function and less recoil.
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>>34486464
It's not actually less recoil, it's just a slower recoil impulse.
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>>34484685
>Remove all rails except the ones needed for an Aimpoint mount

Genius. They should make some cuts into the handguard though for that 3 ounce weight savings.
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>>34486386
lol
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>>34484685

why even get a handguard? just get a lightweight barrel nut and only grip the mag well. keep the barrel short so it's not off balance
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>>34486386

no shit nigger. it's just interesting to see how light it can get and still be decently functional. 7-8 pounds is great for a loaded rifle with an optic to hit 0-400 yards. you can fill that in with even less weight
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>>34486119

FENCING ADDS WEIGHT. GET RID OF FENCING. I wanna see this become popular again
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>>34486119
congratulations you saved 3/4s of an ounce...
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cav 15 polymer lower, which is an actual quality lower unlike almost any other poly
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>>34486151
What the fuck am I looking at?
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>>34486624
There's no way that's from initial d.
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>>34484685
most ultralight uppers are just slickside uppers with no brass deflector, forward assist, dust cover and the dust cover tabs

the cheapest I can find is the spikes tactical slickside upper for $80 and weighs exactly the same as ultralight uppers from vseven and BAD and has the same set of features
don't pay $250
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>>34486745
Chiappa Little Badger. Comes in .22 LR, .22 WMR, .17 HMR, has an MSRP of $229 for all but the .17 version ($249) and weighs only 2.9 lbs.
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>>34486119
>skellytonized

wouldn't sticks and rocks potentially get stuck in your FCG?
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>>34486927
Vseven has a brass deflector and a dust cover hinge.
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>>34486246
Magnesium is stronger per thickness than 6061 aluminum though. A magnesium lower weighs about 2oz less than an aluminum lower, although by the time you skeletonized it the weight difference would be about 1oz.

A very pared down Ti gas block and Ti pins saves another ~3oz off the rifle.

You could dovetail in a skeletonized aluminum trigger shoe to save another fraction of an ounce, although I agree the rest of the FCG needs to be hardened steel for both wear resistance/smoothness and to have enough mass to actuate the primer.
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>>34484685
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>>34486740
that looks sick dude
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>>34487090
my mistake
still, the dust cover adds weight
a lot of the vseven stuff is really light

ultralight pivot pin set, titanium barrel nut, 90 degree selector with titanium core, ultralight mag release, titanium buffer retainer, ultraliight bolt catch, titanium firing pin and depending what trigger you use the titanium trigger pins as well

I'd personally like to clone pic related
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>>34485922
Because he's using the Djibouti Shooty
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>>34486648
other than the fant you kinda need a place for your hand to hold the rifle it protects the barrel. if your running a super thin barrel it wouldnt take much at all to bend it.

https://brigandarms.com/specs/

that is cutting almost a pound off al free float tubes. a sub 3 pound ar is possible
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>>34487562

shit nigga I was going for a super uber light range toy. kinda defeats the purpose though thinking about it. I guess you're right
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>>34486729
well no. you cut out over 5oz. another 2.5 or so from the upper and her thats just under half a pound. i am sure a nigger like you wouldnt care but some people do realize it makes a difference for the goals they are trying to achieve
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>>34487576
would be awesome for an ar10 build tho
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>>34487562
That's a pretty elegant solution. I like it.
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>>34487043
are you shoving sticks in it? yes some dust would get in. more than already does. it wouldnt matter.
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>>34487590
A super-light AR-10 sounds like a sore shoulder to me with any significant amount of fire. Maybe chambering it in something like 7mm-08 would be called for?
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>>34487590

hell yeah. that's the place all this lightweight shit should be put towards. start pulling AR10 weights down to SBR AR15 weights and still be durable in the field
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>>34487626

ehhh I can't imagine it'd be that bad when you start dropping the weights of a 308 AR10 down. the right brake sounds like it'd help the most
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>>34487112
>Ti gas block
why use ti? you can use al on the gas block. its lighter and cheaper.

i know its cool to say i have an Ti gas block much its pointless waste of money.

some of the pins could be al but the rest really need to be hardened steel. TI would not work. its not wear resistant enough and becomes very brittle when work hardened.
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I keep hearing how people who go with a lightweight BCG do so knowing that it makes the firearm dramatically pickier when it comes to ammos but it doesn't matter because for a race gun all those variables are controlled anyways.

Can someone confirm, or can a lightweight BCG work for an "everything" gun reliable enough for home defense/war/shtf if you invest in an adjustable gas block?
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>>34487613

Yes it would matter. The frame of a gun is designed to house and protect the FCG. Having the whole thing out in the open just means your gonna get something in there to fuck it up. I dont mind super lightweight builds but putting the inner mechanics in a situation like that is flat out retarded. I dont care if you save 1/30th of an ounce.
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>>34487626

>>34487636
I emailed gwacs about developing a DPMS 308 lower, which means most of the AR15 parts would work anyway
in any case v7 has some DPMS 308 stuff as well as legit AR10 stuff
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>>34487590
a 4 pound 308 doesn't sound like a lot of fun.
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>>34487666
A good brake is a given, but I really can't think of anything, performance-wise, that .308 does better than 7mm-08. Better trajectory, more than strong enough for any game in North America, still cheap to reload and won't erode your barrel like .243 will.
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>>34487697
>adjustable gas block
that would fix most everything.

lighter bcg need less gas.
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>>34487703
Honestly, whenever I talk about AR10B's, I default to DPMS pattern anyway. Go where the market is, eh?

BTW, you guys may be interested to know that North Eastern Arms is now making modernized versions of the AR-102. Might be a PITA to get them into the US, but if you're trying to "catch 'em all", it'd be one hell of a conversation starter.
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>>34487700
its a rifle not your ass hole. dont be shoving sticks in it. dont act like a fag with your rifle and it will all be ok
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>>34487700
There's literally nothing wrong with skeletonizing the shit out of the magwell though. Right guys?
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>>34487737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk9Z1QdXWAU
Video is an early prototype (when it was still called the NEA-25).
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>>34487709
PUSSSSYYYY

>>34487713
308 is more common but then again, all these uber lightweight meme parts won't be cheap so 7mm probably wouldn't be too bad on any fags who can afford this shit

>>34487749
as long as you keep a mag in, you're gucci
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>>34486740
Plus you can shorten them almost to the length of an A5 receiver extension, without compromising the strength.

Which will save you a few more grams.
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>>34487709
sounds like a lot of fun to me
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https://www.vsevenweaponsystems.com/collections/lower-parts/products/enlightened-2055-ar-15-receiver-set
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>>34487758
>PUSSSSYYYY
clearly you just don't shoot as much as i do.

if i only shot 20 round it wouldnt matter but when you burn 200 rounds in a sitting you start to think about these things.
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>>34487758
I'd go 6.5 creed
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>>34487676
>you can use al on the gas block.
You can, but it sucks, because the aluminum expands much more than the barrel steel as it heats, so the set screws have less and less tension the hotter you go.
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>>34487765
>https://www.vsevenweaponsystems.com/collections/lower-parts/products/enlightened-2055-ar-15-receiver-set

i have an .458 socom thats a bit to light to but 50 rounds through and still be enjoyable. even with the brake it has
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>>34487785

It'd be serviceable if it had to be pushed to 200 rounds. you give up some things to save the weight nigga

>>34487791

my thoughts exactly. pretty good all round (price not included)
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>>34486119
>>34486723


>still full fence

lool what a tard.
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>>34487748

Look the only reason lightweight builds exists other than to be some assholes range toy is for them to be easier to carry around. If you sacrifice reliability which is one of the most important aspects of a firearm to cut the weight by a literally undetectable amount by the average person your a fucking moron. If your ever in a situation where you would have to use the benefit of it being lighter you dont want something thats gonna fuck up because it got a little dirt in it from the GIANT WINDOW that exposes it to the elements.

So sure if its a range toy it being a super unreliable and prone to jam isnt a huge issue. If you dont want a gun shaped stick when you need something to go bang its the worst possible idea. For me guns are meant to be practical and that shit is not.
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>>34487795
>>34487795
you should use a clap type anyways. set screws always give you problems. dont be cheap. Ti expands differently than steel as well.
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>>34487613
Do you have any idea how many BEES could get in that fucker?
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Why not just get a 20" lightweight?

how much less are these meme rifles? 5.5lbs? 5?
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>>34487815

nigger what
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>>34487833

>20 inches

wew lad. grams equal ounces. ounces equal pounds. pounds equal pain and don't forget it, nerd
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>>34487832
OH NO NOT THE BEES!
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>>34487826
This is a purely scientific thread. Get that real world scenario shit out of here.
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>>34487851
>he hasn't seen the video
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>>34487815
why don't you go back to using the m1 or something else your so nostalgic for.

there isn't a reason not cut out a little weight for the people that know how to clean out a trigger group.

for nigers like you, well i doubt you ever shoot anything you may own so it wouldn't matter either way
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>>34487864
I have. AR-15 gets jammed by a wasp or something that flies into the rifle and gets wedged in the lugs. But c'mon, man. It's a classic Cage line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU
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>>34487836
>>34487866


Why the fuck did he drill it full of holes and not dremel off the fence for 'muh grams' is what i meant, you imbeciles.
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>>34487826
you left out the hard core match shooters. it is very practical for 2 and three gun. but you wouldn't understand. thats kinda stuff is just for kids that acutely know how to use a rifle

you clearly dont really know what your talking about. it does not jam up just because your have those *GIANT WINDOW*. if you clean the rifle every now and again it never is a problem.

you just want your gun to look just like the ones in the movies. we know. we all understand guys like you
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>>34487874
Nicholas Cage movies are garbage.
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>>34487832
>>34487832
yes. none. now go back to beating your meat to that james yeager video you were watching
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>>34487833
sub 3 pounds in not out of the question. not with a 20inch
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>>34487889
unitaskers are bad
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>>34487889

idk nigger. ask him maybe? I expressed my opinion about it already. pretty retarded leaving the FCG open like that so fuck it. he should've cut all the fence too
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>>34487913
Someone's upset. Who put a bee in your undies?
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>>34485156
Shit man, just grab the magazine well.
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>>34487896
Sometimes, bad movies are more entertaining than good movies.
Let me introduce you to the greatest Street Fighterâ„¢ movie of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE0Mgf5MAsA

Brief summary: M. Bison is about to go on trial for his crimes and the judge is sure to give him a guilty verdict. In order to prevent this, his henchmen travel back in time to kill the judge before he becomes an adult. Guile, Vega and Dhalsim travel back in time after them to defend him.

I've seen this film over 7 times and I still love it.
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>>34487889
well i used a mill... but i dont want to bother you with any k9nd of details you cant understand.

the reason was its mine and you can fuck yourself.

its truly the reason for most things i do
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>>34487892
Because you want a gun that can stop functioning during a 3 gun match because a pebble worked its way into the FCG when you went prone or dropped it. Thats a real great way to show how good the weapon is. It doesnt matter how well you clean something or how often if its potentially exposed to the elements at all times. Oh but saving those three grams of weight is super important.

Id rather have a gun i can drop and pick up without doing a full detail clean to keep it functioning. Its well worth practically nothing in extra weight.

Lightweight can be practical and is a great thing to have but not when you do stupid shit to get there.
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>>34486624
is this /o/'s version of the "lengthened the cylinder so it's an automatic" panel?
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>>34484685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcNS4JdprWc for few ideas
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>>34487962
you seem to be of this impression that stuff is just magically going to fall into the trigger group when you take it out of the case. i am telling you, from experience, it doesnt.

so i, based on fomentation experiences, am lead to believe you have no idea what your talking about. because it doesnt happen
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>>34487962
>what is a race gun

We're not talking about guns you take to Afghanistan you dumb fucking porch monkey.
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>>34487999

>Ive never seen it happen so its not possible.

Its not that it happens all the time its that it CAN happen. If you want something to be reliable you safeguard it against most possible scenarios. It might not happen in 100 range visits or 2000 rounds but if it happens during a match or when Jamal is about to rob and shoot your ass it matters.

Your line of thinking is basically that because youve never been in a car accident you dont need a seatbelt. The titanic has never sunk it doesnt need lifeboats. Then it sank.

It might be a 1 in 1000 chances but if its less than an ounce of material you dont fucking remove it. The reward isnt worth the possible risk.
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>>34488026
he aint no porch money. they keep that niger out in the fields.
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>>34484957
If you think about it, the lower mass of the bolt would mean it would extract faster with the same strength of buffer spring. Inertia is the resistance of any object to any change in its state of motion. A lesss massive bolt will have less resistance and move quicker compared to a heavier bolt, needing a heavier buffer. You probably run into problems with it not locking up right or bouncing at some stage
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>>34485132
Drilling holes in carbon fiber is a very bad idea. It derives it strength from the length of those fibers. Breaking them up will fuck it totally
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>>34485187
>carbon foam
I assume he means carbon aerogel or pyrolised carbon
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>>34487982
who sells those uppers
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>>34488028
no, yes *can* but not likely, when one of your homies is trying to rob me i wouldd use my carry not my race gun, no, 1 in 1000?

do you only own 1 AR?

you need to stop watching so many shtf stuff on youtube. you cant see out side of your little box
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>>34486246
I guess they could be coated with titanium aluminium nitride, which is super hard. Then you could just use Al and save move weight, possibly. IDK Im no materials scientist
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>>34488070

And your heads shoved so far up your ass with all this HIGH SPEED LOW DRAG bullshit you cant understand why 3 grams of material isnt worth a potential failure.
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>>34488080
These ultra thin coating don't do shit when the substrate they are on gets beat up to fuck.

If you coated a piece of lead with DLC it's still gonna flatten were I to hit it with a hammer.
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>>34487748
Right, so you dive for cover and scrape it along the dirt and fuck it. Or you jump in a shuck or gully full of shitty water, and you fuck it. This is a pristine range toy and nothing else, which is perfectly OK, but don't try and say it's anything else. Fucking with reliability is stupid regadless IMO
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>>34488080
it doesnt work like that. yes it is a card coating but that doesnt add to the strength of it. its grate for abrasion resistance but only a few mils thick.

bty DLC would be a better coating.
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>>34484685

>get polymer lower
>drill holes in it
>skeletonized upper
>pencil 10 inch barrel
>no handguard
>lightweight bcg
>magpul buis
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>>34486624
>stickers
its a little known fact, that adding stickers gives 50 HP EACH.
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>>34488102
>>34488102
but we arnt talking about 3 grams. we are talking about taking a rifle from 5.5-6 pounds and cutting it down to under 3 poounds.

i am always open to use things. you are stuck in your practical for all situation. every pistol doesnt need to be a glock. every rifle doesnt have to be make or half wits who cant keep it out of the mud.
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>>34488112
kek. found another one of yeagers students.
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>>34488138
why would you make it a tax stamp?
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>>34488138
>get polymer lower
<your buffer tube snaps off
>skeletonized upper
<get black crap all over your hands and clothes every time you touch your gun
>no handguard
<burn your hand
>lightweight bcg
<gun won't cycle
what's the next step of your master plan?
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>>34488173

4u
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>>34488044
That'd make it more likely to rip the rim off the casing, though.
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>>34488173
listen to kommando keyboard warrior who think they know what they are talking about because they watched this youtuber that said this was bad kinda stuff
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>>34488216
would make it more likely to not pickup the next round because its over gassed
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>>34485116
but a lite one would not have the same force pushing the round in the chamber? mass...would that make any difference? I really don't know. If the BCG always seated perfect we would not need a forward assist?
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>>34484685

did someone say ULTRA LIGHT WEIGHT
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>>34488255
>>34488255
i could fap tothis
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>>34488255
pretty cool.
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>>34488239

>no trigger
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>>34488255
Noice.

Is that a low mass bcg in that bitch as well?
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>>34484685
>Ctrl+F Proof barrels
>0 results
It's like you people don't even want a $900 carbon fiber wrapped barrel.
Pencil barrels don't have shit on carbon fiber wrapped. They are lighter with around 3x the strength.
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>>34488277
>>34488280
thanks

>>34488295
yes it's an aluminum carrier, weighs only 3.68oz. Was a huge bitch to get reliable as you have to offset low mass with tighter springs and tweak the gas just right. Downside to aluminum carriers was wear from riding on the steel hammers, but the hammer and most of the lpk is polymer from new frontier armory

haven't taken pics in a while but it has a 14.5 barrel with a pinned titanium 2A armament T3 and a burris FF which is actually lighter than the magpul buis
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>>34488112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=vqDPM2zozcM

Just saying.
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>>34488284
Triggers have weight.
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>>34485136
Is bolt bounce still an issue in semi auto?
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>>34488339
no
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>>34486386
It's a mazda engine, not a toyota engine if this is the meme you're talking about >>34486624
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>>34488284
no shit, i didn't notice. pulled this off the web.
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>>34488102
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE A GODDAMN RETARD. Nobody is defending their life or even competing with this rifle. This rifle likely will not exist. This is a thread on the hypothetical possibility of creating an ultralight ar. Go the fuck back to /arg/.
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>>34488255
What kind of muzzle device you got running on this lil qt?
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>>34485116
>I don't think you understand how a gun works, or how physics works.
I'm pretty sure the weapon designer featured in one of the recent videos from inrangeTV doesn't know what he's talking about either when he said lightening the bolt carrier group was a crazy thing to do.

Seriously why are you so much condescending when there are very good reasons to dismiss your statement in the first place ?
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>>34489638

In that pic its just a V7 thread protector, but I swaped out the 16" barrel for a 14.5" with a pinned titanium 2A armament T3 and it weighs the same as before. bare muzzle vs T3 is night and day when the gun has no mass to fight recoil kick.
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>>34484685
I have one budget lite build and one "heavy" build. The lite one (blue) weights about 5.5lbs. The heavy (bronze) is about 9lbs.
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>>34490146
Forgot pic... dumb.
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>>34484685
>CAV-15 MKII Polymer Lower
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>>34489775
>Literal designer of the modern ar 15 says they have always had problems with how light the bolt carrier is/was/will be and says making it lighter is retarded

>"No way bro I totally know better, hes a retard lmao!"

You fucking idiot.
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>>34487203
Please someone do this with a mosin.
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>>34487203
Since there are a couple of single shot .22lr rifles here, this is mine. Exactly 32oz including one in the chamber and 11 in the stock tube. The butt plate thing unscrews to get to the ammo which is suspended between springs to prevent rattling. Scope is a steel body 1950's Weaver B4. Made with mild steel stuff from a hardware store, some carbon tube, a Redman barrel liner, solder, JB Weld, nuts and bolts and scraps from around the shop. Decent accuracy though not to competition level. Suppressor is 6061 and 7075 and really quiet. Takes down or comes together in about 45 seconds, travels in a cloth roll about 13" long.
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>>34490866
The parts.
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>>34488141
Similar with climbing, as soon as the shirt comes off you can actually climb two grades higher.
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A fucking m1 carbine weighs 5.2 pounds and is made out of sturdy wood, with a heavy and reliable bolt mechanism. Which would you rather carry into a dessert or jungle to protect you?
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>>34490922
What if we replaced it with a ported polymer stock?
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>>34490929
Have you ever held an M1 carbine? it feels like a childs rifle, There would be no benefit to it being lighter, actually the paratrooper variant adds weight to the configuration.
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>>34490866
>>34490876
Pretty neat, what tubing did line to make the barrel?
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>>34490922
>M1 carbine
>Reliable bolt mechanism
Let's not kid ourselves
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>>34491351
A 10" piece of Redman 1:16 barrel liner, chambered and crowned, glued with JB Weld inside a woven CF tube with 8mm ID and 12mm OD. The tube is from a Chinese supplier specializing in helicopter and drone struts. It's really nice quality, very tough. The 7075 front adapter is also glued with JB Weld, as is the CF tube into the steel plug in the front of the main tube. The first 1.2" of the barrel liner is soldered into the steel plug. That steel plug is JB Welded into the pipe.
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>>34490681
God my shoulder is hurting just thinking about that.
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>>34484685
old school C8 was light as fuck
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how much does an A2 sight weigh?
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>>34487043
Why not just wrap your receiver in some sort of thin plastic. Just enough to keep water, dirt, and stones out. It would need to be heat resistant so as not to warp or shrink due to the heat from firing.
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>no polymer lower
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>>34493683
because, there is no need to
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>>34484957
Trying to strip a round out of the magazine is where the problems occur and what determines the minimum bolt weight.

Also the ratio of bolt weight compared to the bolt carrier weight has to be a correct one, most modern rifles have bolt carrier that weight about 4 times the weight of the bolt.
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>>34488322
Yes but how much does it weigh
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>>34493653
nvm 3.9oz
compared to the vseven titanium gas block of .7oz
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This skeletonized lightweight bullshit is fucking gay.

And I like to suck dick.

Get a carbine length AR with standard plastic handguards and don't put dumbass attachments on it and if it's too heavy for you lift a weight once in awhile you fucking queers.
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>>34493822
>carbine length AR
sure if you want an inferior gas length
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>>34493752
the cav15 has been posted multiple times, including by me
>>34487430
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Bottom gun is 4.5 pounds with irons and 5.6 with scope (irons removed).
16.5" bbl with rifle gas. Shoots p gud even.
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>>34490876
Any better pics of the action? Was curious how you did the striker and trigger assembly.
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>>34493849
And it deserves to be posted multiple more times!
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>>34486740
karl and ian go back making vids
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>>34493822
hey sick you what you know. which seems to be only sucking dick
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>>34493773
>>34488255

now under 1668g / 3.6lb
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here's some info from an actual designer regarding lightweight BCGs and adjustable gas blocks. His opinion in the thread is generally "don't eff with the carrier weight". Then he left the company and they effed with the carrier weight, haha.
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>>34490922
Getting an AR that light is entirely doable without compromising reliability. No polymer, no drill holes, no lightened bcg. So yeah I'd rather have the AR. I'd rather have the AR even if it was a 6lb build - 5.56 is a good deal better than .30 Carbine i-m-o, the action is more sealed up, and the ergos are better.
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>>34490922
>pistol cartridge
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>>34496724
well I mean, he is right though
cut weight from everything except the bcg and use a buffer thats appropriate for your gas system
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>>34487676
tit seals better
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>>34490568
you have down syndrome and are purposely misunderstanding him.

if you keep a balance between these three areas you can be as much of a fag you want:
adjustable gas block
buffer weight/spring
bcg weight

But you don't know how to consciously think and instead try to translate things you don't understand to apply to other things you don't understand.

unconscious fag
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>>34497208
no. it does not. copper or brass would but Ti does not. Ti would seal better than steel. but you dont need a really good seal on the gas block.
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>>34484970

So is your mom, yet every one loves to handle her. It does suck when ahes trying to suck your dick, she tries to double feed another cock into her mouth.
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