B1 Drops Dummy Bombs Near DMZ

>>34476522
Give some sauce faggot.

>>34476522
settle down, beavis

>>34476527
BREAKING NEWS NO PRINT SOURCES YET

>>34476552
Any source is better than your faggotry, OP

I don't think shows of force like that will work against NK. They will never back down. Kim knows if he backs down then his people see him as weak and may revolt, and a lot of the populace actually believes the crap that they're the strongest. They want to fight and "liberate" the South.
The only ways this will end in in full blown war and NK getting destroyed. Or with China realizing things are about to boil over and invading NK to put up a puppet regime before they have the US at their border (again)

I think Charles Krauthammer's idea of the US giving nukes to SK and Japan and telling them to use them if needed is the best course of action. It creates a deterrence and also gives something to negotiate with when China immediately steps in after. China agrees to take over NK and the nukes on both sides of the peninsula are removed.
Sure, there will still be a standoff with China but they much easier to actually work with than Kim.

>>34476566
>US giving NK and Japan nukes

What planet are you living on?

>>34476566
>a lot of the populace actually believes the crap that they're the strongest. They want to fight and "liberate" the South.
According to reports from expatriated Norks, the biggest means of control the north has is crippling meth addiction being rampant in the population. Has nothing to do with "great leader", has everything to do with what amounts to a nation of meth addicts.

The south has repeatedly complained about Nork refugees having massive drug problems.

>>34476576
South Korea and Japan! Arming allies and giving them the ability to strike back if Kim goes full retard. Just those weapons appearing in the area would quickly get China's attention and force them to act. The whole situation with NK is not just going to disappear or get better over time, it needs to be solved decisively either through warfare or Chinese annexation.
The longer the wait, the more usable nuclear weapons NK will have.

>>34476615
The real threat to America is China. NK is a proxy war.

The only reason to “give” SK and Japan nukes is to deter China from its geographic expansion.

>>34476596
So they aren’t starving after all?

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>>34476522
>>34476527
>>34476565

SOURCE

Didn't this happen like 5 years ago

>>34476732
>Fox News screenshot

You might as well have posted the front page of the Weekly World News.

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>>34476776
>>34476741

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>>34476802
well shit.

>>34476522
do you know how many of those fucking practice bombs we load and drop a year all over the world?

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Literally 5 seconds of google

Nothing confirming they dropped munitions, just took part of a "joint exercise". Probably did drop munitions but there's no source. Stop posting fake news

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>>34476853
Wrong pic, I guess I'm drunker than I thought

>>34476522
Wake me up when we start dropping real bombs on Poontang, or whatever the capital of Korea is.

>>34476853
>Stealth
>Canards

KEK

>>34477352
It was never designed for stealth...

Jesus summer must be in full swing

>>34477352
The B2 is stealth, you idiot.
The B1 just outruns AA.

>>34476867
South China Sea bombing runs was earlier today.

>>34477476
Not at mach 1.25 it doesn't.

>>34477476
>>34477358
B1 is stealth.

>>34477510

The B-1B was optimized for Low level penetration deep strike missions using terrain following radar to hug geographic features and fly under the radar horizon of Air defence networks, in fact, the canards actually help reduce vibrations in the airframe during low level flight.

>>34477537
Why don’t they just evacuate Seoul and knock out the artillary with b1s, b2s, tomahawks and ballistic missiles?

>>34477575
It would take hours to evacuate the city, North Korea has no shortage of spies in the South, and they would know something is up immediately.

>>34477575

It's best not to have one of the largest economic and population centers in the world turned to rubble

>>34477594
>>34477575
If what your proposing is letting Seoul take some blows, this isn't some middle eastern shithole, this could cause a ripple effect in the economy

>>34476596
Did the government get them hooked or did they somehow figure out how to do it themselves?

If the government didn't do it, why do they allow it? Shit even the Philippines is cracking down harder than NK apparently.

>>34477589
You say it’s a drill them make fat boy Kim decide whether or not he wants to start the first strike.

But you have all necessary military element in the air circling.

>>34476566
>China agrees to take over NK
South Korea will never, ever agree to that.

>>34477619
>But you have all necessary military element in the air circling.

There's nothing secret about mobilizing in South Korea's airfields.

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>>34476566
>US giving nukes to SK and Japan
>they nuke eachother over centuries old butthurt

>>34477644
Fly from Guam.

>>34477619
The regularly scheduled drills don't evacuate the cities entirely. It sends them into bomb shelters/subway stations.

>>34477715
Do NK SAMs pose any threat to B1s?

Serbs shot down a F117 with worse integrated defense.

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>>34477740
North Korea would be a perfect playground for B-1s

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>>34477740
You tell me.

>>34477880
Apparently they have home grown S-300s.

https://youtu.be/ey8sfh1aJek

>>34476576
That's not much different than what we did with the Luftwaffe, and the Turks, and the Danes in the 50's and 60's. Thier NATO aircraft were to deliver US-owned nukes in the case of WW-III.

>>34477962
Regardless, launching a full scale war without SEAD is suicide. We might as well just mass produce cruise missiles at that point.

>>34478170
You have to take out the artillary pointed at Seoul before air defenses.

>>34478194
Think we can find the 13400 needles in the haystack?

>>34478223
Not him, but I don't think we can. The only practical option for preserving South Korea while achieving artillery disarmament is saturating North Korea's side of the DMZ with high yield nuclear airbursts.

>>34478223
They should all be marked by now.

>>34478223
should be easy enough once they start firing, we have far, far superior counter battery fire capabilities tot he Norks.

>>34476566
We already gave Japan 2 nukes.
I don't think they ever thanked us for them.

>>34476566
Why would SK, Japan, and US agree with China taking over NK? China can fuck off man.

>>34478223
>>34478233
It will only take like 10 000 civilian deaths at most until all of the artillery positions are bombed.

>>34478223
Implying that out spy sats havent been scouring nk for decades, if we started something nk would lose half of their offense before they get to fire a shot.

>>34476552
>BREAKING NEWS NO PRINT SOURCES YET

Yes because it's currently coming out of your ass.

>nork garbage causing WW3

name one ally they have

>>34478971
China and Russia.
Probably not though, because i don't think they would risk full scale nuclear war because of the retarded child they made...

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Time to vaporize that fat prick

>>34479008
>China and Russia.

wrong and wrong

>>34476522
>"dummy"

What is Mk36 DST....?

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>>34479090

>>34479074
did you not read the second line?

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>>34477677

Man, Dark Helmet has really done well for himself.

First he was infantry, now he commands a space battleship!

>>34476732
>Bomber 1 Bomber

What did they mean by this?

>>34476522

>according to unnamed sources
Good enough for CNN, good enough for me.

>>34478238
The Norks are really actually good at hiding their shit and moving it around often enough to make pinpointing everything somewhat difficult.

>>34480225
Nobody has answered me yet.
I'm not even trying to be an edgelord.
but..
If the Norks getting Nuclear ICBM capability is a real threat to National Security, why does it matter, relatively speaking, if Seoul gets shelled as a result of our correcting the issue?

>>34477790
This.

Practically the terrain they were designed for. Could shove a paveway up Kim's pooper faster than he could stick his cheesy finger on the red button.

>>34480045
kek

>>34480251
What if Seoul gets nuked, not just shelled?

>>34480849
Kim could smuggle a nuke through underground tunnels into Seoul or on a sub and detonate it under a carrier fleet.

>>34480251
It's empathy that's keeping us in check for now, but the weight of a nuclear ICBM threat from North Korea will eventually push us over the line.

>>34480849
North Korea eats a few megatons.

>>34476522
The band?

>>34480989
>empathy
I see. Not going to lie, I've always struggled with that, autistic or something, idk.

>>34476849
at least 1

>>34476596
I'm skeptical. Pot is legal and has wide distribution but mass produced hard drugs? Even import drugs should be very expensive.

>>34482025
I have no credible source but I heard once that NK distributes amphetamines to keep people working with less food.
The stimulants prevent feeling hunger.

>>34480251
>>34480989
The economy would also take a hit. As >>34477606
said, it's not just any random city that could be sacrificed.

>>34482381
Yeah, I mean I like my LG products and all but

National Security > Seoul

Also, South Korea doesn't want to fight North Korea. They're basically apologetic pacifists at this point who are willing to let someone else carry the burden and a part of me thinks it would be providence for them to get their shit kicked in.

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This is how the pre-emptive strike is going down, boys.

Cannot happen any other way without Seoul being destroyed.

>>34482650
Did you happen to notice, as you were drawing up that little piece of fantasy, that over half of those target locations have the prevailing wind patterns dropping fallout all over Seoul and points northeast? And that's before we even look at waterway distribution of other contaminants. There's no way in hell that, outside of an emergency countermeasure to a successful zerg rush, that attack plan flies.

>>34482741
>There's no way in hell that, outside of an emergency countermeasure to a successful zerg rush, that attack plan flies.

Set them off at high altitude so the only high energy radioactive fallout is in the bomb plasma.

>>34482741
All they have to do is wait for the right weather patterns. Airburst would minimize the fallout, modern nuclear weapons moreso. NK would be a contaminated wasteland but SK could survive mostly intact.

The northeast is in trouble though.

The alternative is watching Seoul be razed.

>>34482757
>All they have to do is wait for the right weather patterns.
I don't think you understand how fallout works. It's not "wait for it to blow over after 48 hours". It's "we just turned this whole area into ash and very fine dust, which is intermixed with highly toxic and radioactive particles. Every time the wind blows through this area, it will pick up and push particles of this shit down wind".

The only thing that can curtail this process is a lot of rain, but then all the shit ends up in waterways, local wildlife and ground water down slope.

>>34482811
>we just turned this whole area into ash and very fine dust
>airburst

The idea is to damage the Nork arty and kill their human operators, not vaporize every piece of metal within 50 miles of the border.

>>34482824
>The idea is to damage the Nork arty and kill their human operators, not vaporize every piece of metal within 50 miles of the border.
That entire area is forest, plant vegetation and water/wind erosion talus, scree and sand. All the vegetation exposed to the flash within immediate radius would be flash-ignited (ash), and much of the smaller stone debris and sand would be further atomized/crushed and lifted into the atmosphere by the pressure wave. The chaotic wind patterns around the hills would only serve to further evenly distribute the contaminated dust/ash mixture evenly throughout the area.

It would not be a very friendly neighborhood for quite some time.

That's why I say, unless they're successfully zerg rushing across the DMZ, nothing like this plan would be viable as a strategy.

>>34482824
>That's why I say, unless they're successfully zerg rushing across the DMZ, nothing like this plan would be viable as a strategy.
>>34482874
To expand this, consider the post-war cleanup. If they win and unify, how the hell would they be able to rebuild/rehabilitate the 28 million starving peasants up there when every bit of aid and supply shipped by land has to pass through a heavily contaminated zone? It would make an already difficult civil/economic process ten times harder. That's yet another issue.

>>34482874
The overpressure outranges the blast of heat. Detonated a mile or two above the surface, it will be plenty sufficient to liquefy the internal organs of anyone on the ground and jam up 70 year old rusted out artillery without setting anything on fire.

>>34482895
>consider the post-war cleanup

North Koreans will run to China, not SK. China has a massive military presence on the border. Millions of people will simply be killed by the PLA.

>>34476576

A planet that has better reading comprehension then the planet you are on.

>>34482895
>>34482918
There also will not be 28 million survivors.

>>34482903
>Detonated a mile or two above the surface, it will be plenty sufficient to liquefy the internal organs of anyone on the ground and jam up 70 year old rusted out artillery without setting anything on fire.
You do realize that most of the artillery emplacements you mean to destroy are built into mountain bunkers and caves, right? There's no way such a high airburst could possibly clean up as much of the Nork artillery or personnel as you suggest.

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>>34478010
>in the 50's and 60's.
>implying we stopped
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

>>34482957
Yes. However with NK's logistical capabilities and communication technology, only the positions in the open will be ready to fire at a moment's notice. The entrenched emplacements will have to be supplied and manned before they can respond. Having the entire area around them destroyed will prevent that. It will also enable US satellite cover to watch troop movements and clean up with tactical B-2 strikes.

>>34482984
>>34482957
Keep in mind this is a country that is starving, running extremely low on fuel, has very minimal ammunition and very minimal paved roads. Permanently maintaining supply lines to widely spread, fortified artillery emplacements in mountainous terrain, not to mention doing so without being observable by satellite, is simply not possible.

North Korean artillery must be activated and has a significant lead time. If we give them sufficient notice, they could certainly manage it. We would have days, at least, until any worrying amount of fortified artillery was ready for use.

>>34476636
Not really. NK is to China what Austria-hungary was to Germany ww1. They're a strategical ally, but they are also a huge headache. You would lose a lot where you to lose them, but they're so problematic that they aren't really beneficial. China wants stability to build its internal economy and focus on the absolute vicinity to avoid any major shifts in the region. I see China's current actions in the area as a way to show the West that should we agree to remove NK, you're not stepping in. Very ussr 1990.

>>34483158
I can see that polisci degree from here. You're basing your worldview off hasily-reached presuppositions based on comparative politics without any regard or analysis of the present day.

This is why political science is such a basket case these days.

>>34480989
It's not empathy. Neither the US, China or even SK politicians want a huge influx of starving uneducated refugees. SK does not want to risk a war at all, and while they are different, both sides see each other as koreans.

>>34483196
>Neither the US, China or even SK politicians want a huge influx of starving uneducated refugees

When are the numbers low enough that you stop calling it a "huge influx?"

>>34483231
>When are the numbers low enough that you stop calling it a "huge influx?"
Even just 10% of their population would be a significant economic burden on the RoK.

>>34482939

wonder how many slanted juices are suffering inna Best Korea

>>34482918
Why does everyone assume this, or that China will somehow annex NK? That would be a declaration of war on the ROK, which would gladly help North Koreans fight a guerilla war against China. Because they both use stupid commie aesthetics doesn't mean they're in any way similar to each other, Koreans are still Koreans above all.

>>34483490
This. Read sometime, niggers:
http://en.asaninst.org/wp-content/themes/twentythirteen/action/dl.php?id=31507

>>34476522
kek

>>34476522
/pol/ BTFO