AP ammo thread/diy/SHTF

>>34475503
And no mr ATF agent Im not making AP amp since I'm a poor fag.

>>34475503
Bump.

has anynoe fucked with plastic sabots and steel penetrators?

>>34475942
Not accurate and sabots fragment inside the barrel. Unless it's like zinc or aluminum though iv never heard of such sabots.

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>>34475942
it can work if you work up the right load but I've never seen 9mm sabots. Just get a 22 tmc conversion barrel.

>>34475942
what like SLAP ?

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>>34476418
like this

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>>34476449

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>>34476504

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I used to have some .357 THV

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>>34475503
inb4 I get shit about it
Lehighs do some pretty wicked shit if you load them hot enough. I like their solid brass rifle stuff

>>34476449
>>34476504
>>34476594
What exactly are these? I've never heard/seen something like this. Is it just a smaller bullet in a larger casing?

>>34476705
pretty much.
you get the advantage of having a large bore volume and a "light" bullet, but once the sabot sheds away you have a high sectional density projectile going relatively fast.

they don't feed to well in semi autos though

>>34476705
>Is it just a smaller bullet in a larger casing?
basically. a small diameter bullet sitting in a properly sized cup that grabs the rifling and carries the bullet.
sabot rounds can be fired at extreme velocities because the projectile is so much lighter than normal

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>>34476705
Velocity is key to penetration, along with bullet hardness.
Esssentially, yes. You take a smaller bullet, sleeve it, and drive it at an ultra high velocity to make it penetrate better. This is where hardness takes over.
I.E. Here is a steel tilling disk that a 500SW punched through with a super hot 500gr hard cast at a Brinell hardness of 21.
>357Sig 125gr FMJ in a brass jacket were splattering on impact barely leaving a dent

>>34476705
A plastic sleeve lets you put a smaller bullet in a larger casing. They tend to go fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPLfRrn2WHI

I remember seeing somebody handloading 7.62 Tok years ago with 55gr .223 in sabots. It defeated IIIa iirc.

>>34476750
Wasn't the sabot designed for smooth bore shotguns though? That sounds like it would not be good for rifling if it breaks away in the barrel at high velocity.

>>34476812
They don't break away in the barrel. That guys a retard.

>>34476812
Yeah that would be bad. they are supposed to fall away as soon as they leave the muzzle. But shit can always happen.

>>34476858
Good to know. That sort of thing would certainly put me off of experimenting with that type of round.

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>>34476876
Ahahahaha yeah that's why those accelerator rounds were extremely inaccurate. Why pretty much no rifle sabot works.

Do recall that the reason 7.62x51 SLAP never took off was that on at least one occasion the sabot failed in-barrel and projectile punched through the side of the gun's barrel. Not sure if the commercial stuff runs the same risk, the .50 version is still in some use today so it's not an issue with all sabot'd rifles. I'd only experiment with my lesser-valued guns, and keep my hands behind the action.

>>34478836
Oh look, found the moron! If you knew anything, you'd realize sabots typically aren't used in rifled barrels because it's a pain in the ass to get them to provide the right amount of spin, and even then, there's performance lost. Yeah, you can still get it to work, but again, it's a bitch, and for less.