What is the best sword to use in a one on one fight?

>>34474775

Swordgun.

So I may shoot my opponent with my blade if he's being fucking annoying.

>>34474775
Not that stupid scottish thing anyway. Kitana would be your best bet

>>34474775
tesla sword

make contact with opponent sword and completes the contact letting the electricity flow through. make a bbq while winning a fight

A sword with a gun, or perhaps a gun with a sword.

>>34474775
A bayonet, on the end of my rifle
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>>34474775
One in the shape of a bullet launched from a hand cannon.

>>34474832
>Kitana
I hope you've had the years of training needed to use one without breaking it

Rapier. Is best sword for one-on-one dueling.

>>34474775
My dick. Let's be real would you want to fight a guy holding his erect cock in his hands? Swinging it around, making sword noises like "swoosh" "swish" "CLANG"

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>>34474832
Not sure if she qualifies as a sword.

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>>34474881
This. For single opponents where nobody has armour, this is the only choice (unless you extensively trained with another weapon).

>>34474832

>scottish
That's a German design wielded by a Dutchman, who was very literally a giant. Claymores were a lot shorter than that.

>>34474775

Can I have a shield? If so, gladius. If no, grosse messer.

Gladius because honestly, neither of us knows how to fight with a sword (or if he does for some reason, I'm fucking dead anyway). My plan is to smack the shit out of him with the shield then disembowel. Just rush in and hope surprise works.

Grosse messer because it's the only thing I have anything close to experience with. I've swung mine around a tiny bit.

>>34475506
Actually it is a presentation Sword of Dutch origin, later falsely attributed to the Grote Pier.
>no, it was never used as a real weapon

>>34474881
>>34475237
>implying a greatsword wouldn't fuck a rapier up
>inb4 greatsword is a polearm

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>>34475881
>greatsword
Something tells me you have no idea how much faster you can stab with a rapier than you can swing a greatsword.

>>34474832
Claymores were fairly short, basket hilted even shorter.
They actually had a good idea on personal warswords imo, but in general I'd prefer a gun in every situation I could think of.

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>>34474832

>>34477069
>implying you can do shit to stop a greatsword thrust with a rapier
>implying a montante/Zweihander is Hollywood slow
It's a two handed weapon versus a one handed weapon. You're completely outclassed in leverage, range and power. A rapier is not faster to strike than a Zweihander when you consider the time it takes to step in due to its shorter reach, and the leverage of two hands means the Zweihander can move quite fast and easily parry. Matt Easton did a video on it that explains it better.

>>34477613
>Thrust your great sword
>Rapier guy sidesteps it
>You get a rapier to the spleen as your still drawing back your great sword

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>>34474775
My personal choice would be the British 1821 sabre. I love the way it looks, it can cut and thrust, has decent length, and has decent protection for the hand.

>>34477668
>only rapier users can use foot work
>the only thrusts are ridiculous over committed ones
You have to step in to get in range with your rapier. The Zweihander user doesn't, as long as they don't go full retard and over extend they can control the fight completely. It's similar to rapier versus spear except this time the spear shaft can cut you in half.

>>34477613
While the montante can be faster than it looks, it's still not rapier fast. I've sparred against rapiers, and frankly unless you have a shield, polearm, or ranged weapon, nine times out of ten you will lose against an experienced rapier duellist. That's what they were designed for: winning one on one confrontations. Clearing a melee, holding a flank, passage or bridge, or hazarding armored men? Montante, no question. Fighting a duel? There are better options. Speaking of which:

>>34474775
French spadroon and dagger, simply because I am most comfortable with them.

>>34474775
Swordfighter here.
Have experence from fencing
All the way to full on armor contact.

Im taking a Svärdstav vs basiclly anything in the sword catagory.
Its techincally a sword. So it fits.

But ill have longer reach, more torque, quicker recovery times, more movement for action then any 1 or 2 handed sword can provide.

If you have a rapier, your dead i have 4ft on you and can recovery and parry faster with less movement of my arms. Also more pounds of pressure for contact

If you have a greatsword i have 2ft on you, can poke you and recover faster then you would be able to manuver for a counter and if you commited to a swing its much easier to step back having a larger gap, then since GS recovry is slow when commited to full swing. I stab you in the face very quickly.

>GG reach

>>34477908
So you'd take a spear with a sword on the end

>>34478102
I'd rather take my dick with you're mum on the end.

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>>34477069
>>34477668
>rapierfags
>disgustedSilver.jpg

>>34477906
>French spadroon and dagger
What in the world are you studying, I can't recall seeing anything like this in any french treatises I've looked, smallsword and dagger yes, but spadroon (espadon? contre-pointe?) never...

>>34478438
>tag with flexible foam swords

>>34478754
>not knowing what training swords are

first time here friend?

>>34478754
>foam
It's plastic fampai

>>34478586
Shit. That's my fault. I meant smallsword and dagger (foil and poignard), but something got lost in the execution.

>>34478932
Heh you know what, I got intrigued so I looked into it and apparently a frenchman, Jean de Florette, was teaching fencing in late colonial Philadelphia and doing spadroon and dagger so... no manuals but well, it was there.

Smallsword and dagger is certainly rarer than sidesword/rapier and dagger but yeah, I've seen this. Do you study a particular text about it?

>>34478956
I'm lucky enough to live near a classical and historical fencing school that still teaches it. As for manuals, the main one that I reference is Georges Dubois's "Essai sur l’Escrime: Dague et Rapiere", a late nineteenth (?) century attempt at reconstructing earlier dual weapon treatises into a modern fencing system.

>>34479128
Interesting, so basically it's early HEMA linked to classical fencing.
This one:
http://www.jeuxdepees.fr/Library/Dubois/Dubois_EssaislEscr02.pdf (this particular example that has been pdf-ed seems quite exceptional as there is a word dedicated to Aldo Nadi in it).

>>34477848
Then why don't Olympic fencers use Zweihanders?

>>34479159
Because olympic fencing doesn't come from it. It's not a matter of efficiency but tradition.

>>34479159
Very, very simply put, Olympic fencing is a sporterized version of classical fencing, which is itself a highly specialized version of historical fencing geared more toward academic training and non-fatal blood duels than open combat. Thus: Olympic foil, épée, and saber are stand ins for the classical foil (smallsword trainer, usually), épée de combat (light duelling rapier/slightly heavier, bell guarded smallsword), and duelling saber (usually, but not always, of the Italian school).

>>34475087
I'd give her my sword

>>34474938
>gets dick sliced off

>>34479159
Why don't biathlon athletes use automatic rifles? Are you retarded?

>>34478438
It's that last guy okay?

>guy literally does the giant dad pose with ultra great sword lookalike

>>34479152
Exactly. Here's another couple of PDFs if you're interested. http://www.freelanceacademypress.com/articles.aspx

>>34479323
I would watch that. Change the name to The Winter War-athalon, dose the contestants with methamphetamines and turn them loose. First one to stop skiing long enough to shoot at an actual target, hallucinations don't count, wins.

>>34479324
>ultra great sword lookalike
It's just a regular greatsword trainer though...

>>34479327
Stop it monster! I already have too much treatises and manuals of weapons I don't even practice to read...
Well I need to get back to Page now.

>>34479346
this

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>>34478438
>foam swords
>even when it weighs less, it's still embarrassingly slow
>that fencers footwork
>no attempt at a parry
>turns sideways increasing target area
>high school gym
Something tells me none of these people have experience.

>>34478438
>Their technique sucks, so the longest weapon wins errytime.

Just give them spears.

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A short sword with a really long handle. Something like this.

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Rapier is a great sword, but I'd go cutlass for style.

>>34479346
>The Winter War-athalon
Ancap can't come soon enough. The Olympi/k/s as brought to you by Buds Gun Shop and Federal Ammunition will be legendary.

>>34480000
It's not foam. They're synthetic practice swords that weigh around the same as actual sharp swords.

>>34474869
top kek

>>34474775
Revolver and sabre 40k officer style?

>>34480328
>40k officer style
What...? Do you even realize that pistol and sword combo was done for real in the late 19th century? What the hell does 40k has to do with it?

>>34480336
i don't have the faintest clue about historical fighting in the late 19th century so i went with something i was familiar with

>>34480358
What do you think 40k takes its inspiration from?
Since reloading was super slow for revolvers in the late 19th, it was quite common for european officers to carry and use swords and sabres alongside handguns, especially in the colonial settings where they could well be expected to have to fight against swords and spears.

A light medium length curved blade with a decent hilt and a space for two hands on the grip. I know fuck all about sword fighting, so I'd risk everything on fainting a wild rush before diving low and trying to slice the other guys Achilles tendon(s) off.

I have no illusions that a rapier would do me any good without training. I'd maybe manage to stick it deep in the guys should or something right before getting headbutted and disemboweled.

>>34480387
thank you for enlightening me anon, i always thought that it would be a nice combo if you were in a trench or somewhere packed and tight where Close quarters combat is a must

>>34480408
Attacking the lower parts of someone is actually one of the hardest thing to do as they are so far away and you lose reach as your target gets lower from your shoulders.
Short two-handed sword are some of the easiest weapon to start with but are also very potent in their own right though.

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>>34480413
>i always thought that it would be a nice combo if you were in a trench or somewhere packed and tight where Close quarters combat is a must

I'd rather have this in such a situation.

>>34480499
>Attacking the lower parts of someone is actually one of the hardest thing to do as they are so far away and you lose reach as your target gets lower from your shoulders.
Yeah if you're trying to stay alive it is. But since I have no training with swords and I assume the other guy does, I reasoned that diving for his legs would at least give me a chance.

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>>34480504
give me a 200 rounds magazines and i'll get that trench cleared faster than you can say Sieg heil

>>34479318
>squirts blood into his eyes

>>34475087
She qualifies as a sheath.

>>34474881

I would go for longsword/greatsword. A rapier has fantastic range, but the former has both range and technical parries.

>>34480523
If you're fighting against a rapier user with a longsword or katana, you want to cut at the rapier to move it out of the way, then close distance as fast as possible, and go for the counterattack.

>>34480580
>if you use a katana
HA he doesn't know mighty nippon steel can cut titanium with the force of gravity alone

>>34480578
You can parry every sword blows short of a greatsword (but nothing much can parry them) with a rapier though.

>>34477613
>You're completely outclassed in leverage, range and power.

I'm also advocating for a greatsword, but don't forget rapiers do have fantastic range rivalling even a very large greatsword.

Rapiers aren't meant to parry, so the technique wouldn't even try. I would not underestimate somebody wielding a rapier against my greatsword.

>>34480580
The problem is that rapier can disengage much faster than a longsword/katana can, so beating it away isn't as easy as it seems. Also, since it has more range (usually), by the time you can do a beat, they can already go for a thrust.

Beats aren't really that sophisticated, binding is much safer and efficient.

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Regular old bastard sword... decent length, light enough to use with one hand but has a lengthened grip so you can hand-and-a-half it for more power.

Ideally i'd like to have a shield in my left hand

>>34480609

That depends. I wouldn't rely on a rapier for hard parries more than small redirects. Again, I would not underestimate a rapier though.

>>34480629
if you'd like a shield, don't use a bastard sword. A bastard sword is just a longsword of around 120cm, that you can use with one hand - not so much with a shield, as from horseback, or to grapple with the other hand.

And anyway - it all depends on what the other guy is using. If it's a duel where both combatants are using the same weapon, then it doesn't really matter what you pick.

If he has a fixed weapon, then use whatever counters it best.

>>34474775
Swords are the prince of weapons

Spears are king.

>>34480684
Well of course overall you should never do "hard parries", like really blocking without moving.
Here's an experiment about actually parrying as it should be done.
http://www.salvatorfabris.org/RapierParryingLongsword.shtml

>>34480693
>bind head of spear with sword
>step within range of spearman
>continue stepping towards spearman while redirecting spear all the way down shaft
>jam sword into defenseless spearman's guts

Spears are shit in 1v1 combat.

>>34480738
>Spearman buries a knife in your gut while you're doing your 'lol I parry the spear' bullshit

>>34480738
>bind head of spear with sword
What if he stands in a low or high guard not allowing you to bind the spear to start with...?
It's been demonstrated that spears are very effective in 1vs1, it's simple to say "i'll just do this" it's another matter to actually do it.
Since spears are longer than swords, they typically have the advantage when it comes to who can attack first.

>>34480693
>break spear in half with sword because lolwood
>spearman is now a stickman

>>34480712
What I meant is that a rapier's strength is in it's ability to disengage and rely more on footwork and the range of the weapon. It doesn't make you any more mobile than a greatsword. It just means that you're probably not going to engage a greatsword in a manner the greatsword would be strong in and a greatsword isn't going to be able to engage a rapier the way it wants either.

Basically, if you believe a greatsword is going to be such an inherent advantage against a rapier, you're going to find yourself being skewered.

>>34480796
>break spear in half with sword because lolwood
>spearman is now a short spearman
>swordman has the back half of a spear in his eye
Did you learn nothing in the marines vs stick simulation?

>>34480754

Your answer to "spears aren't good 1v1" is "yeah but knives"?

>>34480777

In a sword vs spear, you're not going to engage somebody as you would a sword, because they have the range. You need to engage the spear first and remain out of its range until you've made that bind. Once you have (it isn't exactly difficult), the spearman needs to either backpedal super hard to try and get you back into effective range or drop it altogether and draw their side sword or knife.

Spears shine in formation. A swordsman can only bind so many spears with his sword and shield before somebody on his left or right finds an opening and skewers him.

>>34480796

Have fun trying to break the wood. Spears aren't as flimsy as you think.

>>34480882
>implying it's easy to get past the range of the spear
>implying the spearman can't just choke up on the spear when in-close

Painting Guardian Sword+15 to match my massive stack of pyromancies and 45 DEX. Fastest swinging curved sword in the game, bleed buildup, crazy fast recovery, it's perfect.

>>34482082
>Dex-fag

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A Machete:
After kill my opponent I would take care of my new earned lands.

Waister and a metal glove. If I can grab the other sword then I win.

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>>34474775
I would go for a polish saber

Katana

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>>34485270

that's a shit saber, mate. Cold steel shit is waaay too heavy. A real Polish Hussar saber is 0.89kg

Pic related is a copy of a historical saber (original is in the Polish Military Museum in Warsaw)

>>34475209
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>>34474775
Longsword or arming sword and buckler depending on what my opponent is using and their skill level.

Also if it's judicial duel rules I'll just use my suit of armor as a fuck you.

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>>34474775
Only related experience I have here is me and my brother beating the shit out of each other with lengths of PVC pipe. Hm...

I'd say a heavy cutlass or falchion would be my best bet for doing some damage whilst swinging with wild abandon. Can I have a buckler too?

>>34487304
>Also if it's judicial duel rules I'll just use my suit of armor as a fuck you.
If it's a judicial duel, your opponent we'll in all likeliness have a suit of armor too though...

>>34487382
>Can I have a buckler too?
You already have a buckler on your guard.

>>34474775
Rapier! That is literally what it was made for.

>>34474775
Silver for beasts, steel for men.
Both are for monsters.

>>34474775

If I can have a shield, since I'm not very good, then i'll take any good stabbing sword.

If I can only have a sword without any shield, then a 1h and a half sword for maximum flexibility.

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The sword my ancestors used to cut open Getulist troops in 1932

>>34474775
Unarmored gladiator style the longer and lighter the better, rapier would be my choice hands down.

that pretty much the only situation I would want a rapier in,

A longer rapier

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>>34492276
>long
>rapier
filthy italianophile.

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>>34474775
Pure and simple? Flamburg wins every time over almost every single sword on earth at everything except being fast to swing.

Good quality steel was more often than not used in the making of these godlike weapons that made them lighter and more durable over any other longsword on the planet.

The flamewave design and serrations made it nigh impossible to survive a parry unless you dedicated your life training to not behead yourself on a Flamburg. Your blade would just continue ripping itself to bits as you grind down at full speed, normally face first into the tip or blade edge of the Flamburg.

A mixture of the first two, the quality and design of the weapon would strip material off of or straight up turn the enemy blade into sparks and shrapnel, no matter who the aggressor is.

My sword is longer.

Attempting to block with a shield would set the shieldsman off balance unless he was trained specifically to block Flamewave swords.

Katanas wrap around it like foil
Thinner longsword designs break almost like glass with a decent swing
Wooden shafted weapons are easily trapped by the serrations and splintered/sawn through

The only real winner is a person with another Flamburg or a large blunt force weapon like a maul or two handed flanged mace. Anything else simply isn't up to par.

>>34480000
Quads dont lie.

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>>34475820
Btw noone by cross of the Dutchman its a horrible game and does no fucking good for the mighty Grote pier.

>>34479346
I'm actually laughing.

>>34474775
THE LONG ONE