Milsurp thread

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hopefully this'll last me a year

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>>34466340
I've been looking to pick up a kar98k recently. What is a fair price for a decent condition one with german markings? Seems crazy to me that they are delling for over $1200 now on gunbroker.

>>34466376
A Russian capture in good shape should be about $600-700.

Fleet farm where are my stuffs fleet farm plz

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>>34466343
Oh my...

>>34466376
>Seems crazy to me that they are delling for over $1200 now on gunbroker.
Nope that's about right.

Got a Chiang Kai-Shek rifle in the mail, gonna (hopefully) pick up a Garand on Saturday, maybe even get a Vz. 24, things are going pretty well.

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Just picked up this No1MK3 for $400 even. Guy who sold it to me said it was his dad's & he just passed. Did i get fucked? Whats the normal asking price for these nowadays?

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Can anyone take a shot at identifying this badge? It's pretty light and may be a replica or fake. I don't recognize the language or style of the symbols on them, if they even are letters, and the flaming red star is just confusing symbolism. It was with some soviet medals, and it definitely looks communisty, but has anyone seen something similar?

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And the back. Definitely cyrillic letters however I don't know what they could stand for

>>34467498

$400 is decent. I paid $375 for mine.

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>>34466340
Muh custom winchester 1917

>>34467960
shouldve done some better copying of viking wood carving style since that looks like some chinese dragon shit a middleschooler thought would look badass

only obscure hint that it's going for a viking theme is the rune in back

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>>34467600
The text on the back stands for
>Цeнa 12 кoпeeк
Or, Price 12 kopeks.
Pins like this were common in the USSR for cities, tourist attractions, etc to have. Kind of equivalent to those penny presses you find everywhere in the US.

Is PPU not making 7.5 French right now?

has anyone bought a rifle from simpsons? theyre website seems like a pain

>>34468072

I think they make a lot of less common rounds in batches.

>>34468092

*their

>>34468065
Well hey that's kind of cool. Might mine be some sort of city emblem? Any way to find out what mine is?

>>34468139
I'm not overly familiar with it, but it looks like old church slavonic or old east slavic script on the front, so I suspect it's from something historic. If it were a city, they'd probably have had the city's name on it in modern Cyrillic on there.
The red star, though, suggests something more Soviety than an old monastery or something, though.
You'd probably have to find somebody who can read the front to tell you where it's from.

>>34468059
You can hate all you want. I'm happy with it. At least its not a pony or some faggy shit like that. Am i the only one that remembers the brony nagant a few years ago?

>>34468121
thanks man, i should pay more attention to my grammer. im guessing thats a no to the original question then.

>>34468199
Hey that's pretty cool, better than a mass produced flea market military pin imo, I'll have to dig into it, thanks

>>34467960
It actually looks pretty cool.

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>>34466343
>tfw only $100 away from a Lebel in great shape for only $500

>>34468297

Nah, you're not. There's definitely worse options, but I wouldn't do that to a historical gun, I'd buy a new one to customize.

>>34468310

Not me. They have a great selection of stuff, but I haven't found anything that meets my needs and price range just yet. Probably soon though.

>>34468487
>>34468487
i hear you. i like how descriptive they are and list each rifle. its crazy how many lugers theyve got

>>34468487
My grandpa gave me the action, barrel, and a roughed in stock as a birthday gift. I'm not so sacrilegious as to destroy a complete weapon to customize. I'm 100% happy with it and how well it shoots. Shopping for a decent scope and bipod to put on it now.

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>>34468464
Good luck. Lebels are so much fun.

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>>34466343
T-t-that's a lot of Lebel ammo anon.

>>34466343
If you don't reload, save the brass and sell it.

>there are people who believe slathering BLO on a stock doesn't count as refinishing

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>>34467498
>>34467611
I paid $290 for mine, but I've seen them go for $600+

>>34468792

That's different then.

>>34468780

I mean, Lugers aren't exactly rare. There's a gun store nearby me that's got a few of them.

>>34471224
The price of lugers is retarded despite the abundance of them

>>34471240

Yep, because "Muh Nazis."

Of course it's no different with K98ks, Garands or M1 carbines, it's all supply and demand.

>>34471259
Well even the prewar ones are insane

Chilean 1912 gets here Tuesday
Link related
https://ganymede.meccahosting.com/~a0000ae7/aapictures.php?ItemId=090509CL

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>>34471279
>Allan Schisel
>long Mauser
Good man.

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>>34471304
I've heard good things about his site, figured I'd take the plunge. Now I just have to stock up on 7mm Mauser

>>34471276

Still.

On the other hand I'm watching the "Realized prices" video on Forgotten Weapons and they had a double-dated Luger that went for $1200ish, which is lower than you'd expect for one of them.

The Mosin Crate has more M48s. $529 for a matched pair with accessories.

>>34468065
whats up with all the jibber jabber words?

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>>34471279
>>34471304
>>34471332
Long Mausers are best Mausers.

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>>34467498
>>34467611
>>34471220
Paid 250 for mine 1916 with no import marks though it needs a new safety lever

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Got some milsurp goodness in the mail myself just yesterday!

>>34466340
>$575+ worth of ammo

>>34471547
Go to work, Mike.

>>34471580
Fuck you dad!

>>34471072
If you don't sand and strip the finish it literally isn't refinishing.

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>>34471220
Or much higher...

Is there any particular difference in quality between manufacturers of No. 4 Mk. I Enfields? Particularly Savage produced.

>>34471767
No, though I tend to believe Savage barrels are a tad bit better. But that's just my unsubstantiated opinion.

>>34466343
WHERE DID YOU GET IT?

>>34471776
Neato. Too used to Mosins where manufacturer is literally everything. Thanks.

>>34471806
SGA has some.

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>>34471751
This probably explains why the 4 I've saw at a gun show last weekend were all $700+.

One retard overpays on brokegunner and idiot gunshow sellers think they can sell their shit for the same.

>>34471767
I dont know if the quality is any different, but I do know that replacing the barrel of a savage is impossible without literally sawing the thing off at the reciver threads.

>>34471881

Remember that many if not most of the people at gun shows expect you to haggle.

>>34472008
There isn't enough room to haggle down when the price they put on it is over double the value.

>>34471881
Na it was probably the couple the man boobs Ben sold last month and Ian had to come out and say "you're fucking high".

>>34471655
>slathering a new finish on isn't refinishing
Hello bubba

>>34472008
>haggle
>yeah I'll knock a dollar off

got my large alice pack in the mail today. It's a knock off. Back it goes.

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>>34472008
>Expect you to haggle $200 off the tag price

>>34472306
well it isn't technically, but it is modifying the original finish

>>34472306
>>34472705
Once again, oil finished stocks require coats of oil periodically. It was literally regular practice when these guns were issued

>>34473081
Are you carrying your milsurp through mud and dirt and dropping it on rocks and shit removing the finish? No? Then it's not needed.

>>34473081
I doubt every country used linseed on their stocks. If you could give me a list of countries that did, I would be interested. But as it is, my finish is in good condition and I have no intentions of modifying it or reapplying it.

>>34473106
Shooting the gun generates huge amounts of heat which causes the oil to leave the wood

>>34473081
>Once again, oil finished stocks require coats of oil periodically.
No, no it doesn't and if you do the stock will eventually turn black. If you actually read museum conservation they say not to do so.
The oil's only purpose was to keep out excess moisture. It doesn't preserve wood. It doesn't keep wood from "drying out." It doesn't keep things "fresh."
>>34473143
It doesn't evaporate. It oxidizes. Furthermore, not all stocks had an oil finish.

>>34475521
Whats the best straight pull overall? ive never shot one but ross' seem very nice, and he swiss guns arent bad. I don't really like the look of steyrs but im sure theyre fine rifles

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>>34475551
Probably the Ross mk3. I know a lot of people are tempted to say the K31 and I can see the argument but the Ross is smoother and has better sights, while being about the same weight (though the K31 is noticeably shorter). Probably a matter of preference though.

>>34475639
Im on the hunt for a mk3, one of the coolest rifles of WWI i think. Ive heard theyre pretty solid shooters if theyre in good shape. K31/11 are ok but theyre way overpriced right now. im hoping i can find one someone bought because of his fav youtuber but didnt realize ammos a pain to find.

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Decided to look under the tang of my Finn M91.

It was blank.

Started researching the marks i could find, plus the obvious one on top

>pic related

>>34475715
Well get in line because I'm looking for one as well. Last one I saw I lost out on by $5.

>>34475851
ouch, thats got to sting a bit. going price is around 11-1200 these days right?

>>34466343
Yeah like >>34470177 said, save that brass, if you won't reload it others gladly will.

>>34475897
More like 1100-1300 but yeah. The one I lost out on only went for 905 though. Would have bid more but I have other things to pay for right now.

The RIA auction in September will probably have a couple though.

>>34475962
Damn, if i knew about that i wouldve grabbed it in a heartbeat. How does buying from RIA work, you just enter your bid online then pay a % to the house if you win?

>>34476014
Yup pretty much, though it's a 17.5% charge if you bid online or over the phone (15% in person).

>>34476091
i didnt realize it was that high. i figured it would be 10-12 max.

>>34475810
Not surprising, they scrubbed plenty of them.

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>tfw off by one

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>>34476261
Whoops wrong tang.

>>34476249
my m39 said 919 on the tang, so I don't know what that's about. But another spot under the receiver says 1893 so there you go I guess

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Just got my order of $80 worth of 7.7 Jap ammo. I wish PPU would not only make the brass but load it too so this shit wouldn't cost an arm and leg.

>>34476351
How is PCI? I've not heard anything about them beyond their 8mm Nambu being shit.

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>>34476439
No, idea. They were the only ones with 7.7 for a decent price. I hoping to get out to the range in a week or 2 to try out my Type 99. I know the brass is PPU.

>>34466340
Anyone own an SVT? Any Canadians willing to chime in? Found one on a site and really considering buying it. Anything I should know? Looks fucking fun

>>34476278
919 is probably right. I have one that's the Tula 905 and one that's a sestroyesk 915

I cant find any marking on my m39 reciever for where it was made but the bolt matches and has the Izhevsk logo on it. its safe to assume the reciever was made there right?

I've read that new production stripper clips for 54r tend not to work well. Why is that? I'm thinking of getting some, but I'd like to know whether it's a good idea to get new ones

Is $300 shipped a good price for an Ishapore 2A1?

>>34476589
Be sure to get the gas regulator set correctly otherwise the rifle is jammy.

Also it gets very hot very quickly. If you fired ARs before and said well I fired 4 mags without issue so my SVT should be able to crack off 20 rounds rapidly. Do not be surprised when extraction fails or rips the base right off a stuck round.

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>>34476589
Stay away from the extreme ends of the gas settings. If you plan on shooting surplus get some stainless steel replacement parts for the gas system.

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>>34476924
If it's not trashed or bubba'd, I'd say yeah

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I took >>34471220 out for a test run with some 1941 RL surplus ammo. Shot 5 shots standing off hand at 50yds. I'm extremely excited to see what it'll do come deer season

>>34468139
apзaмac "arzamas" town.
google it, very beautiful old city

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>>34475715
>>34475639
Mk2s are breddy nice too.

Here's my fudded one, but it's a blast to shoot.

I've got a K31 and a Ross Mk2 and I honestly can't tell which I like more, but the Ross definitely has a smoother action.

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>>34477635

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>>34477646
I was surprised that the fudd aperture worked so well too

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i just got an m39 vkt manufacture w/rust and a cracekd stock from that whole blowout thing at classic firearms. im waiting for it to arrive at my ffl, but until them im excited to take her out get the rust out of the action.

>>34476589
The SVT-40 is pretty cool but a finnicky gun. It had some light primer strikes on surplus Chinese ammo when I used it but worked good on the surplus Russian ammo I had. I didn't have a chance to adjust the gas properly since it was a friend's. I definitely regret not buying one.

>>34476503
Damn I really wish I had an Arisaka bayonet. Was bidding on one on Yahoo Auctions and it quadrupled in a few hours. I'm probably just gonna be cheap and get a repro since I'm not spending $100+ on a bayonet for a gun I spent $200 for.

>>34477689
nice job giving money to the sweaty jew

Anyone know where to get 7.35 Carcano?

>>34476091
>>34476187

IIRC it's 15% if you pay by anything other than credit card and 17.5 by credit card.

>>34476893

From what I've seen the thought is that they are made in a different way, the old ones have crisp crimps, the new ones are usually rounded.

>>34477689

That's cool, I got in earlier and got one with just a cracked stock. The cracks are mostly unimportant on mine.

Cross your fingers and sacrifice a gun grabber to Browning.

>>34477689
S W E A T Y B E N
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>>34472513
Fuck off nogunz surplusshit. Your filth is tarnishing the reputation of the legitimate surplus guns thread.

>>34478059
PCI loads 7.35

Stop buying poo rifles

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>>34480310
No u

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>>34477689
Hope you get something good. Jews always try to play tricks...

>>34480310
Where's your rifles

>>34477841
Go to gun/military shows. The guy wanted $110 for it and talk him down to $80, and it's in really nice shape.

Repos start at like $60, spend a few extra dollars and get the real thing. Just make sure you are buying a combat bayonet and not a training bayonet.

>>34470145
That wood pattern on the stock. Das hawt mane.

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>>34480524
Don't have many pics of them unfortunatley

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>>34480818
Then go take some more, dingus

>>34481195
is that a g33 bolt?

>>34480818
>Wd40 as lubricant
REEEEEEEEEEEE

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Fleetfarm cancelled my order

>>34481301
it was just for the rounds in ljungman magazine because they are a bit finnicky

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>>34481324
Fuck outta here you cunt.

>>34481324
what did you order you dirty weeb
also this thread is FOR GATS not militaria

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Just picked this up at the fun show today.

Late '45 manufacture, post-WW2, someone added a recoil pad so I'll have to swap that out, hopefully the butt plate is still underneath.

$1000 with bayonet.

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>>34481248
No, it's solid

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>>34481381
Hm, last thread that dealt with milsurp has some stuff posted in it but ah well. I ordered a brace of those belgian packs and some flek shirts shirts. To keep it on topic theres a new brand of 8mm that Classic is selling, PWA sport cartridges. They apparently shoot extremely dirty and failures are rampant.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/amm-8mmmauser-romanian-20rounds-non-corrosive

>>34466340
Let's say I scope an old military Mauser, would it be as accurate as a modern hunting rifle?

Also where can I find a Mauser in .308 or 30-06?

>>34481547
>Also where can I find a Mauser in .308 or 30-06?
in hell.

>>34481547
No it would not be.

>>34481590
So you're telling me some cheapo savage or Ruger rifle is going to perform better?

>>34481547

>Mauser in .30-06

1903 Springfield.

>>34481547
Springfields if you have money, but there are plenty of Mausers rechambered after the war, for example the Israeli ones, norwegian army mausers or spanish FR8s or FR7s.

>>34481618

If you spend an equal amount of money on a basic modern bolt action then it will do about as well as any given military bolt gun. There are bolt guns that are exceptionally accurate, but they are generally less common and more expensive, meaning you're still looking at about the same price of a modern gun.

Also a modern gun gives you a modern chambering without re-chambering the gun.

>>34481618
Yes. By a considerable margin in fact.

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>>34481618
Aren't a lot of Ruger's made off of the Mauser action anyway?

>>34481741
Only the M77.

>>34481741
Yeah, I was looking into the scout rifle they make. Only issue I have with it is it doesn't top load.

Still kind of want a military Mauser action for the looks. CZ has a few civ models that come close.

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>>34481423
Fellow M48 owner, how do you like yours?

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>>34481791
Not him but I love mine, it has a sling now

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Took my Hakim out this morning.

i was picking up my brass and noticed a decent portion of the rims on the 8MM Mauser were shredded.

Is this safe to reload?

Also it was on the first gas setting, and I used PPU's 200gr Match ammo.

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>>34482242
Hakims are know to beat the shit out of brass. I don't own one, but I've heard that from several sources

>>34482242
no it isnt. you can try different ammo and make some adjustments but a lot of the early semi autos just mangle the shit out of brass especially the ljungman and hakim

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>>34481411
The bayonet, or at least the scabbard isn't real. It looks plastic and the real ones are not.

>>34466376
Should have shot the ss if he really wanted to protect his fatherland.

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>>34482287
>>34482293
Yeah, it usually dings them up pretty bad.

It's never done that to the brass before though.

I guess I'll have to shoot mainly surplus out of it.

>>34482369
the only surplus 8mm id shoot through there is the yugo stuff and that isnt as easy to find as it once was

>>34482379
I have a couple hundred rounds of M75 and M49, how corrosive is it?

>>34482400
no worse than anything else, there is just a lot of romanian and turkish shit 8mm out that I wouldnt put in a semi automatic or even a bolt rifle really

>>34481618
Emphatically yes

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>>34481791
It's a top tier fun gun. The action needs to be worked some more to smooth it up, but the numbers match and all the metal and finish is flawless.

>>34482329

Feels like fiberglass to me, which is what they are supposed to be made out of.

I'm about to jump on a Martini-Henry from IMA. Anyone got reloading tips that'll help me not need a second mortgage to produce ammo?

>>34482881
take pics of you cleaning it up. Ive been thinking about doing the same thing for a while

>>34482912
Will do. I'll make a whole thread of it when it comes

So at the gun show today there was a guy selling Mosins for $600 and talking about the prices have come down lately.

Also there was a Smith-Corona 1903A3 with no bluing left for under $600. Did I fuck up by not snagging that?

>>34482920
iv8888 has a video of him cleaning one up could be useful

>>34482941
I dont think you did. $600 is the cheapest ive seen one go in a while though

Savage only made No.4s right?

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>>34482528
It might have been repainted then. The color seems to bright.

>>34482945
Yeah I've watched a few clean up videos with autistic levels detail. I'm just nervous about producing safe and accurate ammo, for a decent-ish price

>>34466340
I know a guy with a literal crate of ww1 machinegun lenel ammo

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>>34482989

It's got the Ordnance marking, not that that can't be faked. I dunno, seems real to me.

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>>34482989

Markings on the bayonet itself.

>>34483034
It looks painted.
>>34483058
That looks fine.

>>34483139

I feel like if it was painted recently it would be much smoother than it is, but whatever.

Anyone looking for a Lebel?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/660924015

>>34482242
Reload it. It's fine.

>>34483478
You got any idea what's up with those ross rifles sitting on there pretty cheap? I've been too busy but I was gonna look into it

>>34483478
I'm going to try and get this.

What should be my max?

>>34476965
>>34476969
>>34476969
>>34477841
Is this one any good? I like the color of the bolt and don't mind it is a refurb as long as it is reliable or that I can get it reliable in an inexpensive manner.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/665302455

>>34483580
$650 if you want a normal price

$750+ if you're prepared to pay the gunbroker premium

>>34483580
Your max should be what you're comfortable spending. But I wouldn't go over 900 on it.
>>34483677
960 is a good price, probably gonna get up to around 1200 though.

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>>34482945
Are they usually in similar condition to the one he got, or much worse?

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>>34467498
That stock looks like an ishapore. If you're is all matching then 400 isn't bad
As long as its not RFI made or a mix master of sorts
Pic related. My 1943 ishapore that I got for free.

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>>34476924
Yes. I bought mine today for 325.

All matching with perfect bore

Stop buying poo rifles

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>>34481411
Not bad for $1000. Is it all matching? How's the barrel?

>'55 H&R here.

>>34477689
I did too... hoping for the best

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>>34478155
>nogunz

I showed you mine let's see yours then ya angry jackass, I've never seen someone project so hard on 4chan before

>>34481411
Why would you buy that for $1000? It looks like it's rotting.

what are some good milsurp shotguns?

I wanna get into some trap shooting

>>34477689
Mine came with a bent firing pin with a stress crack. Had to order a new one. The crack was a split on the upper handguard about 5 inches. Overall, not dissapointed as it took $20 for glue and a firing pin to fix. Have yet to fire it.

So I'm interested in a Mas 36 right now. What prices can they usually be had for, what should I look for, and isn't 7.5x54mm French a hard round to find? Are there any conversions, say, to .308, and if so, are they shit?

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>>34487149
I got mine for $430 but they can go around $300-$350 or way up in the $700s. 7.5 French is hard to get locally but Cabela's and aim sell a ton online

>>34484452
It is. I don't anything really about the enfeilds, I took it to cabela's & they offered me a thousand for it. I probably won't ever sell it though.

>>34487202
Cabelas offered you $1000? That's fucking insane. They always low ball the shit out if people. Post some more pics of that thing

>>34484733

Bolt doesn't match the receiver, not sure of what else to check. Barrel looks OK, but I think it needs a cleaning before I can say if it's really good or not.

>>34486775

>milsurp shotgun

1897 Winchester and Remington Model 10. That's about it IIRC. The US is pretty much the only country to take a large number of shotties to war.

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>>34480310
Make me

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I'm very pleased with this purchase. One, I got it for a pretty good price ($300) because it was a from a friend who wants to keep rifles in our reenacting group. Two, he threw in like 10 stripper clips for free - not a super big deal, but still nice. And, three and most importantly, working the bolt on this guy is super smooth. Like, I've fired both Mk. IIIs and No. 4 Mk. 1s, and this one feels way more like a Mk. III.

>>34467586
Not totally sure, but one of those symbols looks like the ukranian trident so im willing to bet it is from some ukranian city. Neat pin ya got.

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>page 9

Not on my watch

>>34484307
From what I've seen, his was a little bit better than the average one you can get since he did handpick his out personally

>>34471751
who is the tranny on the right?

>>34467960
as long as you didn't bubba the original stock, im ok with it.

>>34487429
>1897 Winchester and Remington Model 10.
Stevens 520, Ithaca 37, and a bunch more i can't remember.

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Rate my collection so far, i'm 19 years old. Also the fucking pictures probably going to be flipped cause I don't know fucking why but here's a link just in case it is so you can see it straight.

http://i.imgur.com/eCpsLPo.jpg

Yes i'm shit at pictures, here's what they are from top to bottom :

1938 M91/30
1943 Sako M39
1939 RC Kar98k with eagle stamps
Korean war era M1 Garand from CMP

Also, I think my 91/30 is probably the cleanest/nicest ones i've seen. I'm sure someone on here can up me on that though.

>>34489692
better than when I was 19

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Why have these threads been getting so popular lately? I'm not complaining just confused.

>>34489905
Milsurp is love
Milsurp is life

really need a ross and a k31

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>>34489905
Not sure, but I'm not complaining

>>34470145
I like your nugget

LGS has a 91/30 hex reciever for $300. It looks to be in good condition minus the laminated stock wearing off near the bolt. If the bore is good and the rest of the gun is good, is this a good deal? It has the side folding bayonet

>>34489905
Because BF1 and the new Cawl 'o Doody are getting people interested in old, unique guns and herstory

>>34489905
Lots of bait posting

>>34490099
a side folding bayonet is extremely rare and well worth $300on a 91/30, but you have to make sure that is original and correct for it

>>34487429
Pull the op rod back, and there should be some markings on the barrel showing date of manufacture and who made it. Take the trigger group out and the manufacturer should be stamped on the side. Lastly if you take the action out of the stock, you'll be able to see who made the op rod.

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>>34490111
>side folding is rare
Fuck me I had a 91/30 with one on layaway. Oh well, someone else got it and I have my Garand now.

>>34489905
This >>34490106

Kids that grew up with COD are now old enough to start buying guns.

>>34490111
I will go over to get it tomorrow then, god willing they have it.... how would I tell if its original or replaced on there? If its any correlation, there looks like a grenade muzzle brake on there. The rifle is hanging so I didnt ask to see it.

Just bought a czech Vz24 what are good reliable places to buy 8x57

>>34489692

When I was 19 I was nogunz, you're doing pretty well.

I still need to get a K98k.

>>34490099
>>34490264

I would bet money it's the regular bayonet, just put on backwards for storage. I've been fooled a couple of times by that, but luckily haven't put money down on anything because of it yet.

$300 is about the going rate for Mosins these days, try and squeeze them down a little if you can.

>>34490187

Maybe later today.

>>34490289

Cabelas.

If you want cheap then go to Ammoseek.

>>34489692
That a rc?

>>34489692
Great collection for 19
Just think what it'll look like in a few years

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>>34489692
18 year old here.
I am jealous.

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>organizing gun safe
>Realize I never took a picture with all my milsurp
>also realize that I don't need 8 shotguns
Anyway here is my surp.

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>>34489692
>Rate my collection so far, i'm 19 years old.
YOU KILLIN' IT

At 19 I was blowing my income on booze, fast food, and video games.

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>>34489692
Nice dude. Do you like your M39?

I'm also 19, here's my collection.

The only thing I didn't buy is the Mosin, my dad gave that to me.

>put cosmoline'd wood in trashbag to sweat it out
>wait 4 hours, wipe it down, repeat
>do this for a week
>it's still sweating cosmoline

Do I have to do this a billion times or something?

>>34492081
just put it in the oven

>>34492081
Put it in the car.

>>34492280

I've been doing exactly that, and it keeps sweating. It just won't stop.

>>34492328
Do you wrap the stock absorbent materials?

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>>34492081
>Do I have to do this a billion times or something?
Maybe more than that. It's soaked into the wood for decades. Not gonna come out over an afternoon or 3.

>getting into milsurp for history reasons
>looking to live in MA where you effectively cannot own guns (Shh, I know you can, but there are extreme limitations on getting licenced, transferring, and even storing your guns)
>tfw I will never live to see any state, let alone a non-conservative state actually comprehend the significance of C&R guns
Why fucking live

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>>34492913
I live to surp

>>34492913
get a C&R and buy them on the internet. its hands down the best and the only ""practical"" way to find what your looking for unless your willing to wait years and happen to have a shit ton of money on you

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>>34492913
What trumps your desire for milsurp that would drive you to become a Masshole?

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Cant wait to shitpost my Chilean when it gets here

>>34490633
yeah
>>34490734
well next gonna be investing into some AKs so milsurp will slow down sadly
>>34491684
I want one of those, so i'm as well jealous
>>34491858
ive managed to cut off eating out and my god i have so much money now
>>34492053
they are leagues better then any other Mosin

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>playing with beloved "all-matching" arisaka
>flip up sights
>notice serial on the sights that I didn't see before
>イ804
>this gun is an オ rifle
rip all matching
everything else matches though, I swear!

>>34495890
that sucks. probably cuts 30% right like that

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>>34495890

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>>34495907
>collectors are this autistic

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All matching, no import marking, essentially complete with monopod, dust cover, and AA sights BUT no mum. Strong rifling with bright bore. How did I do? I'm planning on reselling this one eventually, as I can see the prices of Arisakas rising in the future.

>>34496299
>no import marking
I've literally never seen an import marked Arisaka. Most of them are bring backs

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>>34496299
>BUT no mum.
Overpaid by about 100.

>>34495890
Good thing you aren't really into guns.

>>34496280
I had autism before I started collecting guns

>>34496280
Gun collecting gave me autism

>>34496280
This seriously. They'd rather circlejerk about throwing away their trustfunds instead of doing something actually useful and still related to their hobby like talking about shooting or making repairs. You know, things actual gun owners and shooters do.

Surplus gun owners of this type should not even be considered real gun owners anymore.

shooting your guns is annoying and devalues them

>>34496448
>They'd rather circlejerk about throwing away their trustfunds
The grapes are probably sour anyways.

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>>34496299
>planning on reselling

>>34496511
I remember one time I asked where to get replacement parts, specifically a screw and an ejector for a bolt action mauser I just bought that wouldn't extract right and you autists just REEEEEEEEEEEEd to hell and back about destroying the value of a gun you said had no value to autistic collectors anyways.

You people are objectively shitstains on the gun community.

>>34496299
I think you may have gotten skinned a little

>>34495907
well it was only $200 and the dust cover even matches
realistically I'm never gonna sell it anyways since I love Arisakas

>>34496574
>>34496448
Why are you guys so hostile? there just enjoying a different aspect of firearms. Im pretty sure most people fire their guns here, i havent seen anything so rare that shooting it would literally devalue the gun. Do you hate benchrest shooters also?

>>34496668
>ask for help
>get shat on
>autistic flailing makes no sense
>wonder why people hate you

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>>34491684
Nice nice I'm 18 too. Just won a M91/30 PU today. I've also got an M39 to pick up at my FFL. I don't have a family photo but I'll slow dump all the pics I can.

>>34496668
A gun being shot shouldn't devalue it no matter how rare it is

>>34496738
>wearing on the rifling extractor and firing pin
>not damaging

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>>34496725
Here is a pic that the seller put up of my new 91/30 PU

>>34496725
what rifle is that?

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>>34496758
My VZ24

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>>34496768
It's an FN 49. Got it for $570 on gb. Stock is beat to shit but it shoots really well.

>>34496777
Thank you. For the life of me i couldnt place it.

>>34496753
>RPing as a Museum curator

>>34496753
It takes literally 1000s of rounds to wear anything on a gun appreciably. There are people who drive cars way rarer than any gun any of you autists thinks is rare. Yet they aren't turbo autists about it

>>34496824
car people are way way worse than gun people in my experience. i dont think its the act of shooting so much as the potential for damage. your friend joes an idiot and fucked something or he drops it and scuffs up the pristine wood on your 1 of 500 trials gun ect. the same shit that would freak a car guy out if you grinded the gears or scratched the paint. not so much using it but its a greater risk of messing it up.

>>34496872
People race vintage cars worth millions of dollars and are one of maybe 10. They aren't afraid of crashing it. You want to know why they aren't afraid of crashing it? Because they aren't autists and will repair the damage. You fags think that replacing parts that wear on your basic bitch 91/30 is sacrilege. Part of preserving history is using it and maintaining it properly.

>>34496872
The reason a car guy freaks out when you scratch his car is because a good paint job costs 1000s of dollars. To get a good show quality chrome job is 10000s of dollars

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>>34496794
One more of my Vz24

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>>34497038

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>>34497055
That AR in the picture looks like a Colt 727 now after I made changes to the furniture and stuff.

>>34475715
Warning, they are quite delicate rifles. Accurate as fuck however.

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>>34495890
The rear sights were matched with a sub-assembly number just for the sight itself. That is normal.

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>>34496299
If it's all matching then it's a decent price.

>>34497241
I love you. Thanks

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Scored an 88/05 for 210 today. Feelsgoodman

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I'm trying to figure out what I want to go for next. I'm thinking maybe a Type 38 or MAS 36, but I'd also love something milsurp with a scope. PU 91/30s aren't that interesting to me. I know there are repro 1903A4s that can be gotten, but does anyone know of other cool scoped milsurp that isn't stupidly expensive? I would love a ZfK55 or a No 4 Mk 1(T), but there's no way I could afford one.

>>34497494
You could try getting an M48 with a zrak scope. It wouldn't be an original sniper but it would make you like a Balkan warrior.

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>>34497494
>No 4 Mk 1(T), but there's no way I could afford one.
They're not too hard to afford, if you look hard enough.

>>34497494
i think cmp still has some m1c/d garands left, im not sure if they come with a scope though or what theyre asking.

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>>34497494
Both the Mas36 and the type 38 are excellent choices

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>>34471220
>>34467498
I traded for mine, but I'd value it around $450.

>>34497405
I love my GEW88/05! Yours have the turk bolt?

>>34497560

They don't.

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>>34497525
Any idea how much they go for?

>>34497558
How much was yours?

>>34497560
Service grades are $1535, but they don't come with a scope and the scope/mounts are pretty pricey.

>>34497642
I've been thinking about a Type 38 for a while. I really like the idea of an early intermediate round. The MAS wasn't really on my radar until I started posting in these threads. Everyone seems to love them and now I'm interested.

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>>34497727
>Everyone seems to love them

It's because they're great guns that people seem to ignore because "lol, only dropped once" memes

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>>34497727
>How much was yours?
425. But the scope isn't original, and it turned out the seller and my uncle were in Vietnam together, so he sold it to me "for what he paid". Originally he wanted $1000 for it.

>>34497494
>>34497558

No4 mk1(T)'s sell for about $4500 if you get the whole kit.

They're about $2500 Just for the rifle

C&Rsenal is shilling some shirts.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/2nd-annual-summer-t-shirt-campaign-history/x/1317888#/

>>34497727

6.5 Carcanos would also fall under "Early intermediate"

>>34489404
his mom now shuddup

>>34471332
>just varnish everything varnish the fucking barrel too, fuck it

>>34498288

>Not buying varnish in bulk and just tossing your whole rifle into the barrel.

ISHYGDDT

>>34498176
About damned time. I missed out on them last year.

>>34498243
All the early 6.5s are really.

>>34498418

I wasn't even watching back then. I'm probably just gonna get the 'Murrica shirt, gotta save some money for more 'surp.

>>34498243
None of the early 6.5 should be called intermediates. They're full length rifle rounds. And most of them deliver over a 1/3 more ME

>>34498444

6.5 Carcano and Arisaka both roughly match 6.5 Grendel.

They may be full length, but they are intermediate power. 5.56 is on the low end of intermediate.

>>34498470
All the 6.5s except Swede fall into the same rough area of power.

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>>34477635
>>34477646
>>34477658
mine is not fudded, but I am mad jealous of your rear sight.

this gun would be in my top 5 instead of a safe queen if it had better sights.

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>>34492081
i sprayed mine with a degreaser and hit it with a hair dryer. made an unholy mess in the garage but it got like 80% of the cosmo off.

>>34495890
at least you didn't suffer "trans panic" and throw it in a lake.

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Can anyone tell me more about these markings on the stock of my MkIV Martini Henry? I know they're Nepalese but I'm not sure what they mean

type 38 all matching including dustcover, traininer bayonet included. no cleaning rod and the bore is rusty but i think i clean it up pretty well. minor surface rust along the barrel, again should be easy to take care of. id be in it for about 575 after shipping, 540 base price. worth it or no? im not deadset on it because ive got others on my list but i dont find too many with the matching dustcover. mum is present, no sense buying it without.

>>34466340
What's a good milsurp rifle in .308 or .30-06?

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>>34498288
It's like they took a big paint brush full of it and just went to town. There's even some left in the mum

>>34499294
Silly question

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>>34497727
Probably about $400 for rings and a zrak optic if you want to make a clone. Or you could try finding a real one in the US.
It's not the best option but I think it's kind of cool since it's sort of a hybrid being an old rifle with a modern optic, but they actually used them just like this in the Balkan war.

>>34499294
Anything American. The large ring Spanish mausers are good too.

>>34499294

M1 Garand.

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(From left to right)
Ww2 combat helmet
Combat knife (Improved comfort grip)
Ww2 bioshock pistol with extended clip

I'm saving up for a stock so I can get more range out of the thing. Any thoughts?

>>34501294
It'd look better with green tassels

>>34501354
They would blend in too much when innawoods

>>34501407
Fine, blue then. Reds a stupid color

>>34501427
what if i drop it in the water?
blue blends in too much too

>>34501459
Invest in a lanyard then

>>34501576
lanyard for a pistol seems like too much.

by the way was my post funny did it at least make you chuckle hehe that was a nice troll posting an airsoft gun on a weapons board got you there haha amirite i live in britain guns are illegal kill me

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What do you guys think?

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>>34502089
>no import "safety"
Nice. I haven't shot my M57 in some time.

>>34502089
>wood grips
>M57
I've never seen those on an M57 before, it's super sexy

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>>34497405
This rifle is S, Z, and Dimple marked. What ammo should I use in it?

I've heard it's best to use American ammo because it is a lighter load.

>>34503499
Anything sold in the US labeled "8mm Mauser" will be loaded to the weak SAAMI specs and more than safe to shoot.

>>34503544
Even European brands like Pivi Partizan and Seller and Bellot?

>>34503585
>Even European brands like Pivi Partizan and Seller and Bellot?
Yes. If you examine PPU's website, you will see separate listings for SAMMI-spec "8mm Mauser", and European CIP-spec "8x57IS".

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>>34503596
That's good to know. Thanks for help, here have an M39

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my little collection. its funny how some guns are memed into nutty high prices like the k31 on both sides of the atlantic while others arent. like vz24 or 1937/1941 portugese k98 have a much better reputation in the us than here in aistria where they are just considered kinda meh.

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Just spotted one of these beauties at my LGS and I'd like more info/opinions. The side of the receiver was marked "etts continsouza mle-m16" and it's in 8mm lebel. They want ~$480 for it. Should I get or pass?

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on the other hand maybe its the rarity, since portugese are pretty common here but arisakas are like an erlkoenig. friend of mine has an arisaka in 8,57 is. anyone ever heated of such a conversion? who did it?

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sorry for the typos, baked phone posting. prices in the us are almost the same as here, k98 are a bit cheaper (russky /yugo bounty goes for 300-400, adolfs finest around 600-800, matching sniper 1000-1200). finns in good shape have gone crazy up to 1800 thou

>>34503671
Dat Albanian SKS

>>34503689
>friend of mine has an arisaka in 8,57 is. anyone ever heated of such a conversion? who did it?
Perhaps a former owner so he could find ammo for it more easily.

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these are 10 shots with a swiss g1911 at 100 m. the newest shit here are m91/30 mosins with folding bayonet. go up to 600. worth it?

>>34503740
I know, f a m. My LGS's milsurp game is on point. They even have a couple of Egyptian Rasheed rifles, too.

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Aww shit; look what the big brown truck left me: