Canada General - Canadian Folklore Edition

>>34463621
The Mad Trapper is probably a more /k/ related Canadian icon.

>>34463759
The fact that he was the basis of some Paul Bunyan stories is pretty notable, though.

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>>34463621
So I wanted to invest in a Scout rifle, the mossberg MVP in particular was interesting me because of its ability to use LAR-15 pistol mags and get a legal 10 rounds out of an AR mag.

Given its pricepoint here being 900 plus (at least in CanadianTire) it just seams that getting a NR Semi-auto that could take LAR-15 mags would be a more viable option.

Type95 gen 2 being in the same pricerange kinda swayed me towards this.

If I were to get a scout rifle at this point it would be in 308. (gun site rn is selling 10 round m14 mags that would fit in an MVP)

I just really hate our mag capacity laws. The loopholes make it so fucking stupid, to get 10 legal rounds in an SKS you have to get a magwell adapter, then use XCR x39 pistol mags; whole setup costs as much as the rifle, plus some.

AND THE M1 GARAND CAN TAKE 8 CENTERFIRE ROUNDS LEGALLY EVEN THOUGH 5 ROUND ENBLOCKS EXIST

FUCK THE RCMP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>34463812
You can actually fire 10 rounds, legally, from a pinned SKS. Just unlatch the bottom of the mag and hold it in place with your hand. Magic.

>>34463832
This method is retarded.

>>34463849
But it works

>>34463849
If it's stupid and it works...

>>34463864
>>34463872
Sure, at cost of stability/accuracy unless you're shooting with a gun vise. I'd rather have my supporting had further out and actually be able to hit things rather then blasting away 10 rounds hoping to hit the broadside of a barn.

>>34463909
>WHAT ARE YOU A PUSSY.
Seriously dude lift some weights its like an 8lb rifle.

>>34463930
Mate, just because it's possible to shoot a rifle with one hand doesn't make it a great idea to do so. I'd like to see someone use that weird ten round SKS hold and hit something past a hundred yards standing.

>>34464022
>i have little bitch arms and only shot my sks twice and didnt hit anything so sks's are shit: the post
Even tho im not a cuck and my mag just hold ten rounds anyways, the mag latch method isnt hard at all especially at 100m, and if you actually know how to shoot cause youve put roughly 10k rounds through your gun, doing it at 300m isnt hard either

>>34464445
Put your trip back on moleman.

>>34463812

>Angry about mag caps
>Also angry there are ways around them

Come on now.

>>34463832

Why do people maintain this is somehow legal? I mean it works and I've done it, but why does everyone try to dress it up like it's A-okay with the horse police.

>>34464721
Impossible to prove unless they watch you do it.

Pls validate my questionable decisions
>>34463458

>>34464908
Not the worst decision you could've made, but I'd love to own a T81 when/if they eventually arrive.

>>34464939
There's something that seems a bit derpy with how they look to me, but I can't put my finger on it for the life of me.

>>34464986
The magwell position makes them look funny to me. Still, assuming they're decent enough rifles, I'd love to own one. I have an SKS and VZ58 and I'd love to get that too, then I'd only need to talk to CTG about getting an AK or something.

>>34465007
Ctg is a blithering idiot and will shitpost your gun everywhere before he gives it to you.

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>>34463621
my PAL was rejected today, hold me boys

>>34465386
Sure but because of that he is also the most known for prohib guns here.
>>34465406
What did you do to get rejected? My ex-roomie was suicidal and rejected because instead of getting a doctor's note, he fucked around until the closed the application.

>>34463832
>ghosting mag
>aiming accurately

Pick one.

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>>34465406
story

>>34465406
At what point do they tell you its rejected? Before references?

>>34465406
Depending on why they rejected you, you may be able to fight it.

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>>34465406
Y tho?

>>34465406
Did you actually tell the truth on your application? Please tell me you didn't.

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>>34467130
It is an offence to lie for the purpose of obtaining a licence senpai!

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what's the best way to deal with stubborn copper fouling in surplus? I know if it's not a lot, it doesn't affect accuracy to a degree anyone can notice, but the more I try to remove it and the more it doesn't budge, the more invested I get into removing it. what are good products and good methods for getting that shit to come out o the little nooks in the rifling?

>>34468236
Run a patch soaked in hoppes #9 through it, let stand for a minute, then run a bore brush with a bit of hoppes in it through, then a dry patch. Repeat as needed.

>>34468236
Plug one end of the barrel, fill with solvent and let sit overnight. Then give it a good scrub.

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>>34463621
Apparently I forgot to sign the 5592 like an idiot.
May 15th sent out first time, I'm now on day 52 and it will take a minimum of 14 more days for Canada Post to ship the forms back there and ship my PAL to me plus however much time the RCMP will waste sucking eachother off in the middle part of those 14 days of Canada Post snail mail.

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Ttt

>>34464721
>Angry about mag caps
>Also angry there are ways around them

It just proves that the laws are
1. completely stupid
2. not stopping anyone

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>>34463812
Use never-pinned prohib magazines instead of ones you unpinned yourself whenever you go on your killing spree so we can have more time to prepare for confiscation.

>>34464721
They 'maintain that it's legal' because it's not mentioned anywhere in the fucking firearms act you stupid faggot cuckold. How about you fucking read it before you post here?

Here's a sign with nice big letters for you, Hong.

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HERE WE GO NIGGERS

>>34470095
that's Japanese not Chinese
for anyone interested it says "don't throw out trash here please"

>>34470409
Call them, get the direct phone number and ask for all the information needed for your references to call in, that way they don't need to wait for the CFC to call them (at a potentially inopportune time). This will greatly accelerate the rest of the process.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1588367-PRESALE-for-NON-RESTRICTED-CZ-SCORPION-EVO-Carbines-starts-Monday

>Match grade Douglas Precision 9mm NON RESTRICTED barrels have been ordered along with New Reemers. These will be installed, head spaced and tested prior to delivery. Its time to own a NON RESTRICTED CZ Scorpion.

>Sale starts MONDAY on all MODELS.

>TFW moved to Kingston
>TFW only friends are actually just GF's friends
At least I can get out shooting often here.

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>we get the shitty bullpups when we could get the actually worthwhile rifles

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>>34473059
Those new K&M M17's are, by all accounts, solid rifles. They come in both 5.56x45 AND 7.62x51, too.

>>34473410
>Literally a bullpup AR18
Is that thing NR?

>>34473619
As long as it has a long enough barrel, yeah.

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>>34473410
are they solid though? I mean, are there any 10k round reviews out there yet? I can find a lot of YouTube videos from the time they just released, but very little of actual "a few years later" high round count from someone that bought theirs, not had it sent by K&M to them to fuck around with for a week.

also, how heavy is that? I went to look at the X95 the other day and it felt like holding a 50lb dumbbell under your armpit.
>yes I'm a little manlet, but we too have needs

>>34473828
According to their website, the 5.56 version weighs 7.4 lbs. They are apparently working on a .300 BLK version, too.

>>34473410
Southpaws yet again cucked out of a solid rifle.

>>34464445
>youve put roughly 10k rounds through your gun, doing it at 300m isnt hard either
isn't that like well beyond the barrel life expectancy of an sks?

>>34474388
Yeah it's moleman. The man who also somehow has a 2.5lb trigger in his sks.

>>34471031

cheers big fella

>>34473410
how much are these gonna cost?

>>34474466
probably like $3000 like every other non restricted

>>34474404
I do tho, its call carefully filing and polishing the sear

>>34474466
>le NR bullpup maymay
The answer is always "too much".

>>34474466
take the US price and double it
you now have your NR black rifle conversion price in maple pesos

>this place gets a lot slower every Friday evening
>this indicates that a lot of people that browse here have lives and aren't here
>I am here

anyone else just sitting here on the computer with a rifle leaning by your side?

>>34476071
Kinda rifle you got senpai?

>>34476071
I am alone as well. Might bring down my Type 38 later and play some Rising Storm.

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>>34476071
Yes, also a beer.
It's not even that I don't have friends, it's that we're all at the stage in life where we're just too busy or too tired to do anything at any given time.

Some of them are even starting to get married for fuck's sake

>>34476245
>too busy or too tired to do anything at any given time
>marriage
That's a recipe for divorce, or at the very least an unhappy marriage.

People who can't even make time for their friends shouldn't be putting half of their income, assets, and livelihood on the line.

I'm just some dude's friend. He owes me nothing, and I don't hold any of that against him.
His wife, on the other hand, is practically guaranteed to demand a lot more attention & affection from him, or else there will be hell to pay.

>>34476117
No.4 Mk 2. It had been sporterized when I bought it for $150, and with some searching and some gun show finds, I am now 4 parts away from a proper full stocked Enfield.

>>34471841
Not interested at all unless they can get a pistol version approved by the Queen's Cowboys so we can at least get 10 rounds. Otherwise it's $1500 at minimum for a 5 round 9mm when you could have 10 or 14 in a sub2k for a third the price.

>>34477089
In this video they talk about how they are working towards getting pistol mags:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNwzT7vb7s4

>>34477104
Or wait, was it this one? Whatever. The point is that people are working on it.

Are there SKS kits that look halfway decent out there or are they all tapco tier fugly?

>>34478165
Timbersmith

>>34478165
>>34479012
just fun fact, Timberthmith is a Tapco line
they do look nice, although noticeably heavier than Russian and Chinese stocks. that or a Boyd stocks are your only decent looking wood options

for polymer, maybe Monte Carlo by ATI (basically the same shape as original but made of black polymer with checkering and a bit longer LOP)
if you want to go for the mini-SVD look, check the ATI Fiberfoece Dragunov style stock

also, ATI Strikeforce TactLite for a tacticool foldable stock that's better than the Tapco option
>you didn't really make it clear if you wanted a classic style stick or just not Tapco

>>34479255
Tapco is a distributor, timbersmith is the maker of the stocks, ATI would be the maker of the cheapo plastic ones.

>>34479265
Timbersmith is just a Tapco brand line, probably made in the same Chinese factory their plastics stocks are made, don't get mad because it's Tapco, it's still a decent wood replcement
>ATI would be the maker of the cheapo plastic ones
only the maker of the cheapo plastic ATI, they don't make stocks for Tapco. and out of the two, ATI is an overall better fit and fonisha and nicer quality of plastic

>>34479392
"On top of our unmatched quality, every TimberSmith™ component is crafted in the United States. Being American made allows you to make your rifle better than new while adding Section 922r compliant parts to your rifle at the same time."

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hey guys

What if Norinco started making cheap and functional 180b clones?

>inB4 chinkshit
1) as long as they don't fuck around with it, like changing T97 to be NR after initial ban and to accept AR mags and 5.56 round, their clones are great
>note that most malfunctions on T97 are with feeding and are due mag sensitivity and due to lack of feed ramp, which isn't needed for the original design to work, so basically the two things they fucked with quickly, trying to get the changes out the door are the problem
unfucked with clones like 1911, M14, SKS, AR-15 are just fine and at a crazy good price

2) AR-180 was specifically designed by Stoner as an AR-15 alternative, to be easily manifacrured by less advanced, poorer 3rd world ally nations, with simpler process and cheaper cost.

the Chinese can make it just fine
>mfw someone needs to get a hold of Lee at the Polytech factory or Wu at Emei

>>34479408
"TimberSmith™ is the newest brand from The American Parts Company, Inc. (TAPCO®). TimberSmith™ is dedicated to providing the highest quality wooden rifle stocks available. After hearing the demands for a high quality supplier of wooden rifle stocks we sought to find a way to supply the need."

right back at you, it's a Tapco brand and it huuuuuuuts your pooper, lol
they realized not everyone wants their plastic shit so they started making wood

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>>34479458
Canada Ammo is working on aluminum AR-180 replacement receivers and the long-term goal is complete rifles.

>>34479458
>>34479485
As with all the times people ask for Valmet clones, any new producer of a rifle will need to get a new FRT for their version of that rifle.
So while Canada ammo maybe trying to get a new AR-180b to market its still many years away but at least with the AR-180b it is possible.

>>34479503
To be fair, I did say "long term".

>>34479503
Valmet is a bit different because it's an AK that's "not prohibited by name" as an exception, just to not end up with govt making criminals out of natives by prohibiting the gun it gave them a few years earlier

AR-180b is a platform, not a specific brand name, so there is a bit more leeway
>and it's more obscure that an AK

All CanAmmo has to do is keep loudly posting everywhere about how it'll be a boutique rifle made by artisans for the discerning connoisseur and the price point on them will be $5000 as it's sent in the request and then awaits the verdict of the lab, and it'll get NR easily
>then go "lel, turns out it was soot-covered chinks banging them out for our poorfag customers all along and the price is $599 now"

>>34479545
I think Canada Ammo is making the receivers domestically. It's not like the Chinese manufacturers they work with have ever manufactured AR-18's before, so they don't already have a bunch of tooling and stuff, but we have quite a few AR-180's in Canada to use for reverse-engineering.

>>34479924
You seem to be suffering under the misapprehension that
a) blueprints for and samples of firearms aren't widely available
a.5) that the internet doesn't exist for trading such things
c) that Canadians can accomplish something for less than 10 times the price a chinese factory could

>>34480929
>Blueprints widely available
Proper detail drawings with tolerances, surface finishes, material selection, heat treating, etc for every single component and assembly?
No.

I've worked with Chinese manufacturers before. It's a nightmare.

>>34480929
in a way he is right though, the Chinese are less likely to invest in tooling for small markets like Canada.

>>34479924
although they did make adjustments to the T97 so they probably can be persuaded if there is enough demand in markets like Pakistan and Phillipins.

and since they make the AK and AR, they should be able to adjust some of the shit they have to fold sheet receivers and to produce some of the AR parts it already uses, and just make 18.6" AR barrel

small CNC machine that makes the CanAmmo lowers is a minor investment compared to what it takes to even make a stamped receiver, nevermind barrels. so it could be more likely the Chinese will retool and add to their production line than a Canadian dealer making it from scratch and tooling up for it themselves.

it's possible, I mean they make a Sig clone in 7.62x25. an AR-180b is a lot more common and popular than that.

>>34482286
The process of ordering firearms from china is identical to the process of ordering a fidget spinner or fly swatter.

>went to Tenda per anon's recommendation
>it's ran by chinks with broken english

Since when do chinks like guns?

So can a Canadian manufacturer finally get on with making new Valmets? Flood the market with legal ak's!

>>34482573
This or FALs that totally aren't FALs in some unremarkable way would make me the happiest guy in the world

>>34482487
The process of opening a corner store and a gun shop are basically the same. Just a bit more paperwork.

it's 2017, dude. pizza's the same everywhere in north america, though minor variances in skin colour

>>34482573
They would need to get a license from Valmet to produce them and the blueprints. Valmet being essentially defunct would not make this easy.

>>34482877
I'm sure the patent is over, just reverse engineer them.

So I without thinking purchased an M1A scope mount for my M305 to only now realize that my old low-serial rifle has a different mounting screw hole than the newer rifles / Springfield rifles.

Any options to get a Springfield mount on this fucker without sketchy shimming?

And I know I still need to change out the stripper clip guide, I just haven't gotten around to it

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>>34483687

Do timbersmith thumbhole sks stocks exist in wrong-handed config?

>>34474388
>well beyond the barrel life expectancy of an sks?
no 7.62x39mm is a pussycat round.

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>>34482946
Even if it was possible, which it isnt, theres only 3 non restricted valmets in Canada, milled valmet hunters, and milled or stamped m78s. All other, better valmets, are prohibited.
Pic related Valmet m71. Literally an m78 with a 16in barrel but Prohibited cause it wasnt given to natives by the govt

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https://www.thespec.com/news-story/7411253-hamilton-man-charged-in-shooting-defending-home-son/

Charging a 65 year old for defending his family/property from the dindus.

Never change leaf land!

>>34482487
well, they're generally a more traditional and conservative culture, so guys like guy stuff like cars and guns, girls like girly shit, makes sense
chinkbros are redpelled as fuck

besides, who gives a fuck who runs the store, when their ammo selection and prices are often some of the best in country and you can haggle when you get stuff in a combo or be there for an hour choosing an SKS, like my buddy did when I took him there to get his first slavshit. the girl was running back and forth with greasy cosmoline boxes being patient and pleasant despite it being a poorfag milsurp that the store will make peanuts on compare to other rifles

If you tried that shit at Al Flaherty's, you'd get a death stare and a "this is the last one" on the first rifle they brought out
>oh wait, Flaherty's stopped selling milsurp because they're massive cucks
the one time some fag in another province didn't clean his Cambodian Tire SKS and it went runaway retard on him, and someone even coughed about possibly having extra inspections being necessary for milsurp, the supplicants at Al Flaherty's pulled all of their SKS and other milsurp off the shelves and offline, and don't sell it to this day despite it just being a rumor that went away years ago

yeah, I'm a bit buttblasted, but I just can't stand how they have such bro-tier rep on CGN, while being a bunch of cucked fudds who think basic professional service is a capricious demand they don't need to bother with.

>>34483687
>>34483712
get a Canadian made CASM from M14.ca and go around your problem entirely

a lot more reliable mounting and zero + better extraction because of higher-sitting rail, and works for glue case too, unless your sight base is different too, which is unlikely

>>34483798
How would it be impossible? It would be easy to build new Valmet's, they aren't complex rifles. Plus they would sell like crazy

>>34484429
Valmet means it has to be made by Valmet. The RCMP won't allow anything other than that. Sorry, man. It's not going to be solved via a work-around like that.

>>34484345
I don't like supporting chink business, but the ammo prices at Tenda are solid

>>34484299
Sounds like a VZ58 to me.

>>34482487
>>34484345
>>34484463
I actually checked them out just recently, too. Their TT-33's are a bit overpriced IMO, but they have a pretty good selection considering the size of the place. It really is like a Chinese convenience store for guns.

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>thought I'd save money by ordering 308 spam cans instead of multiple 20 round boxes
>mfw seeing shipping cost

>>34485425
top kek, where did you order from and how far are you from them?
lesson learned, I guess
>buy a 50lb dumbbell
>expect to pay for 2lb shipping costs

>>34485558
I'm near Montreal and I thought I'd order from Bullseye London, I've been pretty satisfied with them so far but I haven't bought ammo from them yet.
Didn't go through with it, though, my LGS received a massive shipment of high quality german surplus 308 that costs marginally more than Barnaul so I'm gonna pay them a visit next week.

>>34485558
Also I think it's more about the explosives/dangerous cargo insurance and stuff than it's about the weight.

>>34485621
>>34485632
it's both the weight and the fact that it's ammo. weight plays a standard weight role in shipping, which isn't negligible. always look for free shipping on bulk orders and research your local stores, some will have good deals on bulk, just as good as top online dealers.
the Hintenberg or whatever it's called that I assume you were buying is available all over the country at many places.

a number of dealers got tired of people complaining about shipping, even though there isn't much they can do about it and it's a commonly known issue, new people always get burned on not knowing it -- so now they just say "local pickup only" or do free shipping if you buy enough bulk
Canada Ammo is the only one that does free shipping on a fairly low threshold of over $200, the rest are closer to $500-$600 minimum to qualify for free shipping

>>34485621
It's probably still cheaper for you to buy from Dante or CRAFM.

>>34485778
>Dante
Yeah, that's where I always go for nearly everything.
I didn't even know CRAFM sold stuff lel

>>34463759
>The Mad Trap
Tell me more of this mad trap.

>>34485836
Yeah, they also do gunsmithing, IIRC.

Any recommendations for a starter? Not an SKS/SVT/other shitty Russian rifles.

>>34485936
Savage MkIIG or GL if you're left-eye dominant.

Is having SVT-40s in stock a thing of the past?

>>34485936
What do you wanna do?

>>34485968
Mostly ranges. Not a big fan of hunting.

>>34485968
They are milsurp, for one, so they were going to dry up eventually. Secondly, no imports from Russia right now because of Ukraine invasion sanctions.

>>34486063
What kind of range shooting exactly? Blasting away at short range and giving moderate fucks about grouping or long range precision autism? What kind of budget do you have?

Also despite being comprised of snobby old fucks clays are worth a try too, and shotguns are pretty accessible and always good to have.

>>34486113
I kind of expected this but what I didn't expect was them running out that fast.
I mean we're still practically swimming in nuggets and SKS. I know they were made in far larger numbers but still.

>>34486144
I live in Alberta, but probably rarely long range autism. Still, I love DMR-types.

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>>34486185
Budget?

HELP ME HELPING YOU GODDAMMIT

>>34486230
$2500 upper limit. Prefer cheaper, but prefer that the gun won't fucking die over price

What are the laws surrounding starting a pistol manufacturing company in Canada? How many years of paperwork BS do I have to go though to do it?

>>34486316
Oh good, you're not one of those chucklefucks who want everything under the sun but don't want to pay more than 400 bucks for it.

If you're gonna stick to ranges then I'd say get a good .22 (like the other anon said, Savage makes pretty good ones), 5.56 or a non-slavshit 7.62x39 to start.
Also after you've acquired the basics if you have your RPAL I'd say a mid-range AR-10 would do you wonders. Or a NEA 102. Unless you end up really liking bolt action and/or high precision shooting in which case sky is the limit.

>>34486411
What the fuck is the point of buying a gun for $400 5 times after it shits itself instead of buying the $1800 one? Thanks, also.

>>34486384
As far as making prototypes goes, you can do that with just your RPAL, but you'll need to submit the design to them for review first.

>>34486490
It's kind a luck thing.
My chink M14 apparently is one of the good ones, I've been shooting it a lot over the last three years and the only issues I've had with it were just inherent limitations of the Garand action, it's taken everything I've thrown at it like a champ and keeps going like nothing even happened.

Is it legal to put a pistol grip on a pump action's actual pump? I was eyeing those pump action Troys.

>>34486552
I think my statement applies more to the shitty, cheap clones of AR models that look tacticool. Speaking of M-14, what companies actually make good ones? I'm looking for a fun gun to shoot, not the muh history rifles.

>>34486556
Yes. We do not use a "feature based" system in Canada so you can put a VFG on a shotgun, pistol or whatever you want.

>>34486613
Thank fucking Christ. A gun suddenly can't kill more babies per second just because you slapped a new grip on it.

>>34486587
Honestly I have no idea, for as long as I've been on /k/ I've only heard bad things about Springfield (not even gonna mention the traitorous shit they pulled a couple months ago). I don't know if we have access to the fancier brands like americans do, I've never seen any. Norinco, despite apparently having sometimes shoddy QC, have pretty good tooling. Honestly I'm always willing to recommend it, for that kind of price it's the most fun you're gonna have with your clothes on with a rifle in Canada. Unless you got really really unlucky, worst case scenario is you'll have to change a couple parts.

Just don't expect crazy accuracy out of it, the Garand action is just not made for that.

>>34486665
Are the more modern m14s accurate? Like the EBR or whatever?

>>34463621
Can't unsee South Park flappy Canadian head

>>34486703
As far as I know the closest you're gonna get to that in Canada is putting a Springfield or a Norinco in an EBR chassis, which is pretty expensive, is gonna take quite a bit of waiting and isn't gonna improve performance all that much.

There are upgrades you can do on a M14 platform but you're gonna end up paying more than the price of a truly accurate gun to get similar or worse results.

>>34485968
SVT-40s have dried up because of
1. the ban on imports from Russia and Ukraine
2. fudds bought all of them and are clinging to them
I suspect that if the import ban is lifted they'll be cheap again or if people stop paying so much for them from stupid price gouging fudds
I really wish I bought one when they were $200 but they seriously are not a $600 gun, they're super finnicky

>>34486800
Yeah, I saw one at a gun show last month but it was 650 bucks IIRC
I mean I can afford nice guns but I'm not stupid

>>34486791
Disappointed a bit, honestly.
For accuracy, I've been told Accuracy International makes really good rifles. I'm not being memed here, right?

>>34486853
They are, but they're also $10k rifles.

>>34486909
New car, or new gun.
Is this everyday for you guys?

>>34487095
Gun owners often end up with empty wallets, lol.
On the bright side, they accrue or at least maintain value very well relative to pretty much everything else as long as they are maintained properly.

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Give me one reason you don't own body armor.

>>34487237
I've no purpose for it.

>>34487095
Kinda.
Welcome to the rabbit hole.

>>34487237
Other stuff higher on the priority list.

>>34487237
Because I don't live in Congoronto.

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This is gonna take a while isn't it

>>34474333
I've signed up to do my PAL course end of August. Remembered I'm left eye dominant, left handed. ;_;

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I was thinking of putting money down on a Sub 2000.
Is it worth it?

>>34487490
Same here. Been 100% fine so far.
Bullpups are a meme anyway.

>>34487237
because the chances of someone shooting at me are 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
and I live in what the other Anon referred to as "Congoronto"

seriously, how much is that Omar rig from your pic costs? do you seriously have nothing better /k/ related to spend that money on? I'd faster buy a Tavor and I'm only saying that because I think Tavor is the worst deal for the buck as far as firearms go, but it's still a better purchase that this
>at least it's a reliable NR rifle I can have fun with at the range or inns woods, while you play dress up at home once a year until 10-15 years later, when the "best before" date runs out and you keep telling yourself that's all bullishit snd it's still good, but deep down inside you'll have doubts and never have the peace of mind that you once bought it for

>>34487490
At least they're on the same side.
>Left eye, right hand
Literally the only advantage is you reload or switch to sidearm faster. Everything else takes a hit.

>>34487509
Make sure you're getting the Gen2, eh?

>>34487509
yes

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>>34474333
>>34487490
>>34487532
hehehe, it's nobody else's fault that you are genetic abominations
>pshh, bullpups are a meme anyway
picrelated

>>34487237
I thought it was illegal here

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>>34487690
Yes, it's a gen two in pic related camo.
Also, another thing I've been wondering is how the fuck do you get a SU-16 in this country?
Every time one shows up at a store in Alberta, they're apparently gone in days.

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>>34487787
Wrong image.

>>34487772
There's a reason why the military forces who used them are moving back to proper rifles buddy

>>34487787
It's a cheap rifle chamber in 5.56x45 which collapses for storage, has a built-in bipod, magazine storage in the stock and weighs 5 pounds or less. Not all that surprising that they sell so fast, IMO.

I'd love to pick one up and make an aluminum receiver for it, but food and shelter are more important right now, lol.

>>34487772
>tavor buyer's remorse: the post

>>34487787
>metal bolt carrier
>plastics receiver
There is nothing between the back of the receiver and the bolt carrier, which constantly travels microns closer and closer to that plastic wall and usually smashes through it within 1k rounds or less; some reported as low as 300 rounds when using hotter ammo
>might also have to do with the fact that Canadian models have longer barrels than the original 16" designed for US, so longer dwell time, more gas pressure to gas port, harder kick to the carrier
but US has these problems too and no Gen 2 for SU-16 despite years of complaints
https://youtu.be/cR8VIxhWbzY
https://youtu.be/juxLeQY-Iwg

you might as well save $100 and buy yourself a T97, roll the 50/50 dice on getting a good one out of the box or doing musical chairs with mags until you find ones it likes

if you want a super light 5.56 that you will shoot once a year (and not too fast, the pencil barrel heats up fast and accuracy drops through the floor)

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>>34487831
>buyer's

>>34487901
Sounds like complete garbage, thanks for the heads up. Guess I'll save up for a mini 14 after-all.

>>34487966
that or VZ in 5.56 if you can find one around. early models had issues, but once they figured out the gas port size, no reported problems. if you are interested, look it up, but I think 2014 and after are all fine.

there is a decent adapter for it that requires no permanent modification and gives you the ability to use 7.62x39 10-round XCR mags and AR style loading and dropping mags with AR button mag release
plus they can be outfitter with rails for red dots and bolt releases, making them more tacticool if that's all stuff you care about

it's too bad there isn't a solid go-to answer for a reliable affordable and reasonably accurate mag-fed semi-auto NR rifle in 5.56 in Canada
>it's almost as if someone is actively working to keep it that way

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>>34487966

>>34488128
that is a bit of an outdated meme senpai
the current models are only inaccurate compared to like a decent AR. compared to other piston operated they're fine
>probably better that X95 at third the price

>>34484345
>besides, who gives a fuck who runs the store

Me and all my friends. Foreigners get out.

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>>34488979
lol, picrelated

also, Anons on /pol/ don't count as friends

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>>34489136
>reddit showing lack of understanding on US history and concept of ownership.

Protip: The natives fought and killed each other for land just like the whites did.

>>34489136
Indians killed each other with the help of Europeans.

The fall of Aztec Empire involved 200.000 native americans battling 300.000 native Americans with the help of 1500 Europeans

>>34489136
Cool Europeans go back to Europe. Mexicans go back to Southern America and blacks go back to Africa.

Now i wonder who would resist such a deal the most?

>>34489163
>US history
this isn't US
besides, if you believe in ownership, then you have to belibe in their ownership even if they didn't believe it at the time, or do your values only apply when it's convenient?

>>34489183
>Aztecs
still Canada here

>>34489189
nobody is going anywhere and that is the point

TL:DR: I'm just being fescicious with that meme to make a point, not to back the native land meme. screeching /pol/tard going on about "foreigners" in a fucking baby-age colony-country that's younger than most outhouses in the old world is hilariou, that's all you guys.
I'm bringing up the "this is native land! REEEE! white devils git out" meme just to point out that a moron sperging about Chinese running a gun store being a problem for him and "foreigners get out" is equally stupid.
being white and being born here for one generation longer than a chink whose family built the railroad doesn't make you a "local" and him a "foreigner"; or a chink whose family came here 50 years ago, it is inconsequential in historical terms; trying to apply European arguments for white country where people native to those countries where white for millennia, to a country that's barely a few hundred years old and is a colony that quickly became populated by many races, even if whites were the first newcomers by a small margin is anunine. muh white country for whites is lolzy as fuck if your understanding of history isn't informed by /pol/ memes

Getting my RPAL (hopefully) in the next 2 weeks or so. Any pistol recommendations? Price range is around $1,000, want a 9mm. Here are some pistols I am liking so far:
-Beretta 92fs
-CZ75b/SP01 Shadow
-SIG P320
-Glock 17

Anything I may have overlooked?

DPMS AR's still take standard AR parts as far as stocks and grips go, right?

Their 6.5 Creedmore rifle is getting me hard.

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>>34489266
The Lakota literally claimed ownership by birthright when it was convenient for them.


On top of that, wars are fought for land or at least the worth while ones. A couple of wars were fought for the Americas and the Settlers came on top.

>>34489403
oh didn't read the rest of the post. My B

>>34489361
>his first pistol isn't a Norc clone or a Tok
ff.f..fucking c-cuck! why don't you go buy H&K, rich ff..faggot!
>:'(

seriously though, seems like a good base selection, although very differing in feel-in-hand, like G17 and Sig vs CZ75 and Beretta. try them out and see if you like the wider chunkier grip or the slimmer contoured one
>why not Zastava Tokarev or Norinco 1911 clone in ninemeeleemitah?! stop being sensible cuck with your money and be cheap coolguy instead, fuccboi!
also, 92fs has been in too many movies. sorry, but you can't buy it. it would seem like you got it because of Hollywood and nobody would think you are cool

>>34489405
to add, I wrote "TL;DR" and then wrote a fucking post that's literally too long to read. I belong here :(

>>34489425
Big fan of John Woo so that's where the 92fs love is coming from.

I plan on trying all of these out once I get my RPAL but I think the P320 might be difficult to find around these parts.

>>34489450
just remember that "You ain't a Navy Seal until you've eaten some Italian steel" meme is ancient aliens, just like glocknade; someone will eventually bring it up because they heard it somewhere without knowing how outdated and irrelevant it is now.

also
>not getting a tiger-stripe gold-plated Deagle for maximum action movie badguy points
at least get a Jericho and be cool like Spike from Cowboy BeBop

seriously though, since you don't mind the slide mounted safety, Jericho 941 is not a bad option for 9mm if you like the looks, it performs fine by all accounts.

also, can't believe I didn't think of it sooner: Glock's biggest contender for polymer supremacy, a less boxy and much better priced S&W M&P9 (now in the new 2.0 version that made some changes while also making the original even cheaper because it's "old" version now). solid choice and they come in full range kits that are still cheaper than a Glock

>>34489266
It's completely rational for whites to want to acquire control of canada, regardless of how lengthy you write your posts.

>>34482573
No, it would never work. Since Valmet the company no longer exists, there cannot be new manufacture "Valmets" as far as the prescribed models are concerned. If you made new AKs and just called them Valmets, then the manufacturer still wouldn't be Valmet, Do they wouldn't count.

>>34489547
quality argument

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>>34484299
>He followed up with a detailed rhetorical question: "You're sitting in your house, you have two kids sleeping, you hear bang, bang, bang, smash. You have 30 seconds to think about what you're going to do. Are you going to grab your phone or a gun? People are coming into your house. If they can get you, they can get your kids. What are you going to do?"

>you hear bang, bang, bang, smash

which one of you was this

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>>34463621
GF and I are moving into our first apartment in Ontario next month. Does anyone know if I'm required to tell a landlord I'm storing rifles on their property? I did a quick search and found older articles saying they can't stop me and I don't have to tell them unless I sign a weird lease.

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>>34489547
>Canada is left to fester for near 300 years
>50% of GDP is trading with USA
>All exports and imports are 90% USA

>Theatre commander in Syria is a fat fuck
>Canada
>Important

>>34489595
None of his business.

>>34489595
None of their business, unless you sign a lease saying you can't have them. Just read your lease, and remember that, legally, ammo isn't considered an explosive until you get over 300 Kg of powder or something stupid like that.

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>>34489266
How long until multiculturalism devolves into multinationalism and we can fight a war about it.

>>34489637
>>34489647
Thanks

>>34489950
>implying it won't be a cleanup campaign since idiots like you are in the minority
We had a nice thread going, and then one of you faggots just had to /pol/ things up with "hurr don't buy guns from chink foreigners!"

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>>34487237
does this count? It's probably bullet resistant...

>>34487237
>>34490915
Ahem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JwlzR5nPFw

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>>34487237
>>34490915

>>34490915
>cant stop rifle rounds

>>34491023
Almost bloody nothing can.

>>34490923
interesting video, thanks for that.

>>34491023
I knew that, but it could stop pistol calibers. Hence it is bullet ""resistant"".

>>34491023
Do you wear tank armor?

>>34491052
>>34491210
>what is lvl 4 ceramics
My plates are ceramic backed with a ballistic polyethylene plate and stop 54r as well as plenty of other rifle rounds, and theyre chinese plates i paid 120$ for and im getting some "new" Russian 6a GOST ceramic plates that can stop 10 Armor piercing 54r, or a 338 at 300m. Not that youd live tho

>>34491305
Why do you even bother m80

What home defense gun can both 100% kill the dindu and convince police you didn't have to fire extra rounds because magdumping will look bad to the jury?

>>34491493
t. totally not RCMP

>>34491493
shotgun with buckshot

>>34491493
magnum revolver if you're allowed to even purchase one
if you're north/rural enough, you can justify owning one for bear defense

>>34491534
Is buckshot even lethal?

>>34491386
I shoot mild steel really close and get lots of ricochets

>>34491573
No, massive balls of metal going at 1400 fps designed to kill 200 lbs animals couldn't possibly kill a human

What the fuck do you think retard

>>34491608
>I shoot mild steel really close and get lots of ricochets
have you tried not doing that?

>>34491573
>2017
>falling for the buckshot maymay
you might as well replace those pellets with styrofoam, even that would do more damage than buckshot

>>34491663
>I don't shoot real guns but I play vidya

>>34491305
>>34491608
Can you please but your trip back on? I'm trying to filter you.

>>34491692
get some coffee, Anon, you're not picking up the obvious anymore

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>>34491986

>>34487442

Probably around the same time the T81's get in, yeah.

>>34491573
It's like being hit with several bullets at once. Look at video of buckshot against a big wood target or an animal and ask me again if it's lethal.

>>34489183
Amerindians were killing each other long before any Europeans arrived. The English and French settlers, who were at war with each other, ended up becoming allies with certain Amerinidian tribes who were, themselves, also at war with each other.
>The friend of my enemy is also my enemy
>The enemy of my enemy's friend is my friend

Is it still cheaper to build an AR in canada or should I just buy one instead?I dont want to spend over 700$

>>34493347
IMO cheapest/best option is a Norinco or S&W AR15, then swap out parts as you go.

if you want to build an alternative upper with a different barrel length or caliber for an existing store-bought complete AR or want to change the barrel on it to a longer or shorter length, how do these scenarios work with the registry
>from what I understand, even though the lower is technically the registered firearm, the certificate for complete rifles does list barrel length and caliber
so do you need to register secod barrel length and caliber for an existing AR? do you technically need a new certificate every time you swap out an upper? if you change just be barrel and keep it that way, do you need a new certificate, since it is the same rifle and it used to be registered as one barrel length and now is another?

was thinking about it and just curious how this bit of paperwork works for you ARfags

>>34493730
You have 30 days to contact them if changes you make to a firearm affect the class of the firearm, but for the exact barrel length and cartridge being fired when it doesn't change class... I don't think it matters (as long as the length isn't changed by cutting the barrel).

>>34487782
Depends on the province. In AB, for instance, it's not illegal so long as you have a PAL, not that retailers are actually obliged to verify this. In BC, I believe it's categorically prohibited.

>>34491305
>trusting Chink plates
I assume you'll be putting the old ones to the test when your Russian ones come in? Make sure to post a report, I'm curious whether cheap chinese armor actually holds up to its rating.

>>34493865
https://youtu.be/9OQw6T48inc

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http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/episodes/the-gun-shop
>tonight at 10, a prime time documentary about how only irrational ignorant and panicked people are attracted to guns
>lel, you are scared of mass shooters and your solution is to get a gun? do you see le irony? do you? do you? do you?
>"this documentary doesn't take sides on the gun control issue" it impartially explains why one side is the only correct side and the other are a bunch of batshit crazy lunatics
at it again with a Marx and Engels in hand

K31, best to use oil or grease?

>>34494816
I think the one I used to have came with original grease so I'm gonna say use that

>>34494816

I find a good moly grease works very well in my Swiss straight-pulls.

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>>34494625
>Doesn't take sides
>CBC

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Rec me pistol caliber NR stuff familam

>>34498104
>We're 100% unbiased because we said so

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>>34498200
Aero Survival Rifle
Beretta CX4
Kel-Tec SUB2000 (Gen 2)
Thureon Defense Carbine
Kriss Vector

There are others, but they are usually either very unreliable (Just Right Carbine) and/or weigh a fucking ton (Suomi). IIRC, CanadaAmmo was working on getting M1 Carbines chambered in other rounds, but I haven't heard a peep about that in a long time. NEA is working on some 9x19 carbines, but who knows if those will go NR or R and when the classification will be made (pic related).

I don't know enough about the 9x19 Tavor's to recommend them or not, but they exist. I hear a lot of buzz about the Sig MPX but I want to handle one first. I'm really excited for the CZ EVO 3, though, and pre-orders for NR ones has already started (See: IRunGuns).

>>34498287
It's a shame the MPX is that expensive, it's exactly the kind of thing I want

>>34498309
They're bringing EVO 3's in as pistols as well as carbines and they're working on getting approved pistol mags, so that'll be a lot of fun for a lot less.

FWIW, the normal magazines sell for less than 20 bucks in the US.

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Dropping 1k on a deactivated FAL would be silly wouldn't it

>>34498387
Depends if you're actually trying to complete a collection in which the FAL would fall, especially if it's that specific model of FAL.

>>34498409
It would just be for my battle rifle autism

>>34498432
I would probably suggest getting functional firearms (that could very well be banned in the future, potentially grandfathering you), unless you already have a huge collection, but I'm guessing not.

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>meet a guy from /k/
>ends up being a cool reasonable guy

i don't get what you guys are often so apprehensive about

>>34498483
Already have a M305.
What other battle rifles can we even get here aside from the SVT-40, the FAMAE and the AR-10/NEA 102

>>34498529
RFB
M1 Garand
FN-49
MAS-49 and 49/56
XCR-M
FNAR
Hakim

I'm sure there are plenty of others I'm forgetting, though not all of them are as easy to feed as others (I'm looking at you, MAS).

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>>34498560
>all unicorn-tier rare or expensive as hell

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>>34498528

>>34498560
>>34498570
wtf i hate battle rifles now

>>34498570
Lots of Boomers are dying off or selling their guns to fund their retirement. If you go to gun shows, you'll be seeing more and more nice ones.

This guy is selling an FN-49 in 8mm for 1,100 asking price which would be about right for an Egyptian with ~75% finish. His looks a bit rougher than that to my eye, so you might be able to haggle him down to as low as 850, but I'd take it at 900. That or you get that amount of savings by buying his ammo below market value. Either way.

>>34498570
>>34498644
Derp. Forgot to post link.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1586131-WTS-FN49-8mm-Mauser-Egyptian

>>34485849
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>34498643
Here's another I forgot. This guy is selling his for 850 asking price, which would be fair for a 95%, so you can haggle it down based on wear.
90% would be ~640
80% would be ~580
70% would be ~520
60% would be ~470

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1588111-Swedish-ag42b-ljungman

>>34493842
BC is legal with PAL as well

>>34491573
>Is buckshot even lethal?
No. It just tickles the dindu, it'll make him go "Tee hee!". Trudeau than jumps out of the bushes to award him $10 million dollars for undue suffering. Thus, another day in maple land.

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are XCRs worth the money?
did they totally iron out all the issues the descriptions of which web is full of, together with stories how the owner replied with hate mail to requests for repairs. are they range queens or would they be a reliable dependable hunting, 3-gun, inna woods, inna dirt and mud and rain, le Mad Max post-collapse raifu?

originally I heard too many stories about horrible issues and literally negative, not just absent, negative customer support.
and I saw this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yz7sTU8J6O4

>been hearing that Gen this and Gen that has fixed all the problems.
I know when someone blows a few grand on the rifle, it becomes infallible and people lie through their teeth to not look like cucks who bought a lemon.
>just see how the dude in the video chugs along not acknowledging any of the failures, it's brutal to wathch
but I was hoping since we are all Anons here you can just be honest or say "my friend owns one" and talk about it honestly that way

is it an all around good rifle now or are there still concerns? would you pick it if you could only keep like 2-3 of your guns for the rest of you life?

P.S.: is it still heavy as fuck too? from the pics of even the keymod, it looks like it'd be slow to point and very front heavy, despite some lightening

>>34499587

I have a second gen XCR-M. It's been excellent as long as the gas is on the right setting. If you do buy one, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET THE LIGHT BARREL AND MEMEMOD HANDGUARD! Not even joking.

>>34498387
just get a realistic airshit FAL so you can at least pretend to kill nigga-commies while wearing short shorts

>>34498712
I see them for $600 all the time, just wait

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>>34494625
>The comment section full of rational, firm pro-gun comments

>>34500881
Only to be reminded that you can never get a FAL in Canada?

>>34502740
You can get a FAL if you really want it that badly, only the Queen's Cowboys are stopping you, and what are they gonna do when you have one? You've got a god damned FAL, they can eat some real fuckin' NATO.

>>34502831
>holding off the horse cops with a FAL
Don't be silly anon. Everybody knows a G3 in a shed works best.

>>34502922
Don't forget to just ambush them by shooting through the door.

(For those who aren't familiar, we're referencing the Mayerthorpe shooting, not actually suggesting this)

>>34501270
We are secretly master race

>>34503079
>not actually suggesting this
Sic semper porcis

>>34494625
Listening to the guy rationalizing the Philando Castile shooting was pretty dumb

>>34503079
Winter 2015 the snow was so heavily locally that I basically turned the back deck into a small set of trenches. Almost 6 feet of snow piled up right to the railing almost all the way around (railing is 4' high).

>>34503720
Franky I'm more annoyed that the only people that talk about what happened to him are 'libruls'. Since he was legally carrying his firearm when he was shot while reaching for his driver's license. Isn't that the sort of shit that the NRA should be screaming about?

>>34503886
There was one year in the late 2000's, early 2010's in Quebec that was so bad I spent 15 hours shoveling one day. I finished the driveway, started shoveling to the shed (where we stored trash so raccoons couldn't get to it) and by the time I was done that the driveway had a foot of snow already and the snow plow passed leaving a 3 foot tall and 2 foot wide mound of compacted snow and ice at the entrance. Nearly had a fucking mental breakdown.

When I hear people talk wistfully about having snow fall, I always explain it like this: The first day, you marvel at how pretty it is. The second day, you play in the snow. The third day and onwards you want to murder clouds for dropping white shit everywhere.

>>34503886
> I'm more annoyed that the only people that talk about what happened to him are 'libruls'
Yeah, politics are fucking exhausting nowadays. It's cult-like.

>>34503958
found the kike

>>34503981
Dude, you might want to turn down the sensitivity on your hand-rubbing radar, because all he said was that politics are exhausting (they are) and that people follow politics like they would a cult (rather than getting information from as many sources as they can and evaluating the information).

Memes, and politics are by definition memetic, are like germs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV9WEqLeBuo

>>34504030
>)rather than getting information from as many sources as they can and evaluating the information).
Eh, I could see how anon could take issue with this. Doing this takes active effort and intelligence, and a good deal of it no less. Labeling politics "cult-like" could be (mis?)understood to imply that anyone interested in politics has a cult-like mentality, or that knowledge of politics is trivial and the entire issue is nonsense. Which, of course, is not the case.

The "fuck politics" approach is often parroted by people who don't know the least bit about it, and political indifference is obviously beneficial to (((those))) in power. That might be the stick up his ass.

>>34504154
The one I heard the most growing up was "politics are for old people", but old people are heading out the door. Who is going to deal with the results of current politics the longest? The young.
Frankly, if politics wasn't so interested in messing with my life, I wouldn't have as much of an interest. It's a captive audience.

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>>34502740
Ahem.
>>34502922
Between the two, the L1 is lighter, more ergonomic and a comfier shooter. But I can't help but love the G3's asthetics.

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>>34504208
>It's a captive audience
Quite literally. There is a solution, however.

>>34504217
Can you get an hk33?

>>34504767
he can get whatever he wants because he doesn't give a fuck about the law

>>34503886
>I'm more annoyed that the only people that talk about what happened to him are 'libruls'.

That's not true. Plenty of "conservatards" brought it up and were concerned with the police action. The SAF complained as well.

>>34504778
Ah yes thanks. Next time I'm at my lgs I'll just politely tell them I don't give a fuck about the law and they'll show me their prohib selection. Thanks anon.

>>34504208
And the young are trying to integrate a religion that punishes gays with death and it's laws into a community that advocates for homosexuality and has a high percentage of homosexuals. Future's looking bright. Can't wait to see public beheadings in Toronto for going into someone's house with shoes on.

>>34503720
>>34503886
the thing about Castille case is, if you watch the actual video of the shooting recorded on the cruiser dash cam and listen to the audio; Philando basically says "oh yeah, I have a gun" and starts reaching for his right side to presumably show his permit or as part of continuing to look for/take out his driver's license. while the cop can be seen as trigger happy, telling an officer you have a gun and then m reaching for something out of their view in your pocket/belt area is really up there as far as horribly dangerous decisions go. the fact that cops could smell weed in the car and he had a mile-long record that would have shown up when they ran his plate, all pretty much adds up to what did end up happening.

not saying it was fully justified, but I would assume if you are a CCW holder in US, you'd inform the officers of it and wait for further instructions with your hands of the wheel, keeping everyone happy and calm. yeah the cop jumped the gun, but Castille did give him a reason to get jumpy.

>>34504837
Sorry, not much else I can tell you. The HK33 is prohib by name as are all the other roller delayed blowback HK firearms .

>>34504851
Noone is trying to integrate Sharia law into Canada, dumbass... unless you count the Christian right.

>Can't wait to see public beheadings in Toronto
Because nothing says "I love Canada" than wanting Canadians to be murdered, huh?

>for going into someone's house with shoes on
>implying it's alright to mess up someone's carpets with your dirty shoes

>went to buy ammo for new handgun
>70 cents a round

How do people afford this shit

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>>34505055
Sweet summer child

>>34504154
No you fucking faggot you completely misunderstood the nuance in what I was referring to. Undying support for a political party or political orientation IS cult like. Both the anon and I were referring to how conservakikes are unwavering proponents of free gun ownership, yet they are paradoxically unwavering proponents of authority, no matter the context. My point was that your average pleb is a total partisan sheep when it comes to politics. Learn to read

Also, before you call me a libtard because you're too retarded to understand my broader point and just see me bashing conservatives, the same can be said about the left

>>34505134
What is that

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>>34505055
>mfw bought a fuckload of Tula .45 ACP for like 40 cents a round

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>>34504837
Find a seller on gunbroker, drive across border and buy their gun in a parking lot, drive back and forget to mention it's in your trunk

>>34505448
Lel international arms smuggling is pretty serious

>>34500881
You're not looking at much less than $1000 for an airsoft FAL in Canada if you want a nice one. I've got an Ares L1A1 that ran about $650-$700. King Arms are cheaper but shittier, and not quite accurate to any specific version.

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>>34505134
>$55 for 50 rounds

Am I reading this right, holy shit

>>34505887
It's only a crime if someone finds out

>>34505169
Please don't presume to speak for me.

>Move to Kingston
>Continue working as a security guard, just in a new city
>2nd job site
>Meet someone who honestly wouldn't surprise me if he posted on here
Making friends, and even shooting buddies. This is working out for me.

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>>34487490
Same. I still have no issue with bulpups, and love my t97. Just dont get the ftu, the higher sight keeps your face away from flying brass

>>34498528
Well I for one am a fucking recluse crazy faggot

>>34507684
I mean, it really comes down to what kind of optic he's going to use. If it already sits high on a rail, then mounting it on top of the carry handle is instant chin-weld territory.

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>>34507666
>grow up in libtard shithole
>get into guns
>lose friends

>>34508684
Find more friends.

>>34508775
>just b urself bro

>>34508684
>>34508775
Find better friends.
Worst part is, some of them probably would've been on-board to try shooting for themselves if they found out 1 on 1. They just don't have a spine and must bend to the will of the collective no matter what.

>>34508684
>not making arguments from a phony cuck position and redpilling everyone in your liberal shithole circle of friends while maintaining opsec
"yeah, I don't get what people find so interesting about guns, but I mean, I wouldn't want others telling me what to do with my hobbies or trying to take away my property just because they don't understand things I like. as long as they're not hurting others, there's no problem."
"I wouldn't want a gun if you gave it to me for free, but I don't see why I shouldn't trust my neighbors with having guns if I trust the government with having them"
"yeah, that could be true, maybe some are overcompensating or maybe it just makes them feel safer, I don't get it, but you know, people didn't understand gays and persecuted them for being different, even though they didn't hurt anyone. well yeah guns are dangerous, but saying a gun owner is a potential killer like those crazy idiots that say gays are potential pedophiles.. I think just because we don't get someone, doesn't mean we have to jump into fearing them, don't you agree?"
>then pretend to get curious and involve them in checking out statistics together
"whaddaya know, turns out legal gun owners are safer to be around than average population and gun violence is highly overblown in the media, which conflates illegal firearms with legal ones, I for one am surprised .. but you know, it does make sense"
etc etc

>>34508875
Are you implying these "people" are rational or something

>>34508886
I think he's implying that they are easily influenced, which I would agree with.

I'm quite a bit more blunt and if someone is exceptionally vocal about their irrational beliefs on the matter I'll just demolish their argument from top to bottom until they choose to not get publicly humiliated any further by airing their ignorance/stupidity out for everyone to see.

Some people are just impossible to convert, but they are excellent fodder to convert everyone else around.

>>34508912
>I'll just demolish their argument from top to bottom until they choose to not get publicly humiliated
Kek, you must be fun at parties. Also one day you'll meet a libtard you can't argue with, unless you're Ben Shapiro tier

>>34508912
>they are easily influenced
Not when they've been born and raised in this cocoon of "liberalism is the absolute truth and anything even remotely conservative is pure evil" they aren't.

>>34504030
>>34504154
I did a joke you autistic freaks.

>>34504978
This one isn't a joke.

>>34509114
I'm agnostic, but last I checked it isn't the "Christian right" that is committing honour killings or any of that shit. Just because they are both Abrahamic religions does not make them, in the modern implementations, even remotely comparable.

>>34509114
>>34509213
Also, I'm calling it right now: You're Angry Halifax Anon and everyone is going to get pissed because you're /pol/ing the thread up. Not that this one is going to last too much longer. Only 8 more posts until bump limit.

>>34509213
>>34509220
When I posted that I meant ((That guy's) post is not a joke, look how dangerous it is.) and you misinterpreted it as it being mine. I am to blame for that. He probably is everything you described, however.

>>34509220
Also, stop gaslighting why everyone hates AHA. It's because he's a delusional commie, and both qualities are intuitively and intellectually revolting to people raised with common sense.

I accuse you now of yiddism for trying to associate /pol/ with his nonsense. /pol/ is generally a right-ist board.

>>34509333
My apologies.

>>34509338
The composition of the /pol/ board spans all philosophies. Half the threads on there are "Drumpf" threads or "THIS IS WHY WE NEED GUN CONTROL!" or literally cuck/blacked porn. Ever looked at any of the health care threads, there?
To call it a "right wing echo chamber", as many have and will continue to do, is erroneous at best.
AHA being a dirty race-baiting commie just ends up fueling political conversations in the CanGen threads and then he turns around and whines when his untenable positions are shot full of holes.

>>34509381
>Half the threads on there are "Drumpf" threads or "THIS IS WHY WE NEED GUN CONTROL!" or literally cuck/blacked porn.

I don't know how to explain this, but you're misinterpreting those thread titles. It's like, cheekily taking an audacious perspective of the opposing viewpoint and using it to incite discussion. It's only very rare that the people posting those titles aren't doing it to be cheeky or spam. You'd know this intuitively if you weren't autistic/a yid/a liar.
>To call it a "right wing echo chamber"
I said generally right-ist.
>is erroneous at best.
who is this straw-man?

>>34509408
I'm not talking about the threads where they alter Colbert's face in comedic fashion. I'm talking about the ones started by people who legitimately believe he should be thrown out of the oval office. People wouldn't make the threads you're talking about if there weren't people who actually thought that on /pol/ for them to mock.

>>34509430
You are a fucking drooling retard. I don't know how to explain something to legitimate autistic freaks.

>I'm talking about the ones started by people who legitimately believe he should be thrown out of the oval office.

Yet the examples you gave are ALL cheeky in nature, and what you're describing almost doesn't exist.

>People wouldn't make the threads you're talking about if there weren't people who actually thought that on /pol/ for them to mock.

What you're saying is basically >People wouldn't make threads discussing current events and politics if current events and politics wasn't browsing /pol/ to be mocked by it.

Please stop posting. Idiot freaks who miss the point so much don't belong on imageboards. In order to understand the posts others make you have to have to pass the sally-anne test.

>>34509453
So you just put your blinders on and assume that everyone who espouses every possible stance that is center or left on /pol/ is just there to pretend to be a retard? Yeah, that's WAY more logical than the people we know to exist also post on /pol/.

>>34509475
put a tripcode on so I can filter you

>>34509488
>EVERYONE WHO IS DUMB IS JUST TROLLING
Attributing everything to malice is even more awful an existence than attributing it to stupidity.

>>34509497
? What cause do you have to believe that I don't want to filter him for being dumb? All of my posts call him an autistic freak, not a troll. legit laughing

>>34509508
You claim that everyone on /pol/ is right wing and that anyone who posts threads from a leftist perspective is just trolling. You have to be insane to delude yourself that much. The fact that you cling to "autistic freak" as an insult says more about you than anyone else.

>>34509518
No, I don't. I said they were being cheeky, you autistic freak. Cheekiness is performed in good faith that others understand it. You don't understand it because you don't have empathy. Creatures like you don't belong interacting with real human beings.

>>34509529
>Don't have empathy
Swing and a miss. If anything I have too much of it and it kills my faith in humanity. You are delusional and you're pushing the negative feelings onto others as a defense mechanism.

>>34509616
My feelings have nothing to do with your inability to understand social behaviour on imageboards. I have absolutely nothing to do with that. I have no cause or reason to defend myself from your inhumanity. You are an autistic freak and you don't belong here.

>>34509633
Not just assuming that everyone whose opinion is different than mine on /pol/ is just trolling or mocking said position isn't the same thing as being unable to understand social behaviour, be it on or off an imageboard. 4chan has millions of visitors every day. It's just not fucking possible but you just keep blocking it out. If that's not a coping mechanism, then you're just fucking retarded. Which do you prefer?

>>34509655
Let's be adults and just agree that you have sub-human intelligence so I can move on with my life, and you with your unlife.

>>34509672
Clearly you'll believe whatever the fuck you want regardless of how unlikely it is.

>>34509692
Keep telling yourself that, tardo.

>>34509692
>>34509715
You two need to just fuck already.

>>34509220
>>34509338
>Angry Halifax Anon
>tfw I haven't posted anything political in weeks
>tfw people are calling me a commie even though I'm not
>tfw those same people are butthurt cause I'm not a bigot
Opinions discarded.

I'm glad I managed to start an argument between two of you idiots without even being here though. The fact that you both know so much about /pol/ also proves that you hardly belong here, since those freedom hating cucks want want to take guns from people whether they're left or right.

>>34510914
/pol/ needs firearms too, mate. It's a rightist board, mostly young fascists, libertardians and identitarians by a few hundred names. Very pro-gun. If that scares you, you should be training rather than making up nonsense about them being freedom-hating cucks.

I can see how you could get that confused if you're nigger or something. Are you?

>>34510914
>anyone who disagrees with me or calls me names is a bigot
Holy shit dude you really are a faggot.