Knife thread

>>34446330

Are they ever gonna make a none shitty version if that knife, get rid of the serrations?

recommend me a good practical knife for camping and every day use! never had a non-shit knife before.

>>34446606
fixed or folded?

>>34446635
fix'd

>>34446606
>never had a non-shit knife
then maybe it's not the knife.

>>34446659
price range?

>>34446659
Ontario Chimera, or if you need >$50 go with the SOG Seal Pup.

>>34446722
very good input. good thread.

>>34446880
those both look good, thanks

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>>34446880
>SOG

Got any ideas for "concealed" carrying of a fixed knife?
I tried to pull the belt and the sheath through the piece of a bicycle's inner tube, but that's not very comfortable
I tried to tie the sheath concurrently to the belt with a shoe lace, but the sheath was too loose and the knife was easy to fall out.
The inner pocket in a jacket is too small

>>34447664
Boot dagger/ankle strap?
Crkt makes a nice model called Sting.
Perry affordable too

>>34447664
I carry a SOCP on occasion, though it's probably not what you think of when you think "Fixed EDC"

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>>34447701
any poorfag socp alternatives?

>>34447724
>Poorfag

The real deal's like 100 bucks! Don't cheap out on knives, man.

>>34447731
I want to stick socp style knives on all my bags and vests and shit without spending 500 dollars lol.

>>34446508
I believe the older Seki steel made knives had a variation without serrations./ Be prepared to pay over $200 for one though. Very collectible.

>>34446606
Esee 4. If you need something for chopping, bring a fucking small axe/hatchet like a human being.

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>>34447548
I've actually had a pretty good experience w/SOG knives.

Put this little shit through all sorts of nonsense and its never chipped. Seems to dull pretty slowly, too.

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>>34448503
SOG being shit is mostly a meme, SOG being good is a meme too.

>>34447724
Barstock steel, files, kydex, and a backyard forge. For the price of one, make 6+.

It's a time sync, but a heck of a lot of fun. Made my wife a SOC-P-alike. It's really not that hard. The ring is a bit of a pain in the arse...

>>34448647
Their new stuff is shit. Their old stuff, stuff made with Seki, Japan steel is rock solid.

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>>34449527
overpriced kabars

>>34449538

How you like the Junglas? I got one coming in the mail

>>34446606
Morakniv are pretty good for what they are.

>>34447548
I dont know about their quality control now. But when i bought a mini sog Pentagon, it was the best most versatile knife I ever owned/had.

Until I started getting into folders and bought a para2

I'm making things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A87QBNHYMho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9edTHcFKU90

>>34446330
>Dagger point
>Not even the slightest hint of a cross guard

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>>34446508
Federally, it's illegal to carry double-edged knives unless you're FBI, CIA, armed forces, etc. in the US.

You may get lucky depending on whether you're hunting, the cop/warden you happen to exchange words with, but double-edge knives are best avoided when looking for edc pieces as a civi.

We should start pushing to get all of which legalized for civilian carry. That and getting 4in recognized as the standard maximum for casual carry. Hunting should allow up to 7in blades, double edged or not.

>>34446606

Svord drop point hunter from New Zealand. They're the tits.

>>34449538
>claims Seki, Japan steel is garbage recycled Chinese steel
>posts pics of garbage recycled Chinese steel
hmmm

>>34449602
You again. Stop shilling for that design thieving "muh combat bushido" scumbag.

>>34450375
>tang snaps

>>34450397
On old SOG knives? Show proof of this happening.
Again, I am talking about their stuff made in Seki Japan, not that new garbage produced in China/America

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>>34450414
Actually, more of it's produced in Taiwan, not China.

But I guess there's not much difference in the end product for you to care to distinguish it.

>>34449538
what is second from top?

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R8 and H8 M80s

>>34450912
Taiwan is China's bitch. They are one in the same.

>>34450945
I love it. What is that spacer materiel?

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>>34450381
>still thinking he "stole" his designs when he literally worked with the people you think he stole from
ok retard
funny how after i posted a rebuttal in that thread you never even replied

>>34451441
context please, is this who am i thinking about?

>>34451455
Some retard thinks Joe Watson stole all of his knife designs from Shivworks, Strider, and Winkler(?). He also thinks Watson's punch dagger design is stolen from the ESEE punch knife so it's obvious that he's retarded or blind.

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comparison pic

>>34451441
>>34451495
>>34451512
>That you, Joe?

>>34451441
Curious, why do you post pics with gloves on? Were you in a fire? Austist?

Texas just lifted knife laws
Should I carry a bowie or a trench knife?

>>34450177
you're wrong. and dumb

>>34451512
Wait, so you don't see a bit of a similarity in the two push knives? I mean, obviously they are not identical and I believe he didn't claim they were, but there are clearly two similar aspects that are distinguishable from most other push blade knives.

>>34450177
>4 inches
Fuck that shit. Upstate NYer here. I walk around Ithaca with a Cold Steel Eland in my back pocket err day.

>>34451929
Did or will you wear a black trenchcoat today?

>>34451771

Bowies are too big and trench knives are heavy as fuck and made by shit quality chink companies.

I'm thinking about a Cold Steel Taipan in San Mai III.

>>34451861
That style of handle was also on the now discontinued Wilson Combat push dagger. It's not an uncommon idea to have a 3 fingered asymmetrical handle (doesn't hurt as much to punch with) or a single edged blade (helps with legality in some areas). Plus you can clearly see the Watson is a spearpoint which is obviously different from the ESEE in actual cutting/stabbing.

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I just ordered this bad boy. Can't fucking wait for it to arrive. I just love the blade and overall shape.

>>34451737
Cause i originally took the pics for another thread that was gear related.

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>>34449538

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A-are daggers cool?

>>34450177
>"Federally"
>Apparently Arkansas isn't a state

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>>34452097
Daggers are for faggers.

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Any Southern Grind owners here? Are they a gimmick? They seem a little overpriced I can't help but want a bad monkey in my collection/EDC rotation.

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>>34452143
Welp. Guess I'm double the fag.

>>34452163
Looks like a cheap Sebenza copy. :^)

>>34451724
>can't even greentext correctly
Just neck yourself.

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Help me finnaly decide ffs

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I'm excited, I've got a pelican 1560 that should be coming in the mail today, it is for my primary sharpening set up (wicked edge, sharpmaker, maitance stuff).

I also have a blue s35vn Kershaw Link on order, should shop in a week or so. And finally the Massdrop Rose wood/Mirror Kwaiken should be shipping in a month or so.

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>>34452270
I've never held the 0630 (is that right? On the top of my head), but I have a 0562cf (pic related), it's a very nice knife, I carry it often.

what's a good "outdoorknife" that is good for throwing and light bushcraft?
I'm gonna go camping for a couple of days and would like to practice a bit of knife-throwing while I'm /out/.

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>>34452499
Mora Compainon, cheap and proven. A great entry level starting point.

>>34452499
I missed the "throwing" part... typically a throwing knife is really only good for as a throwing knife.

But you can get a good one for cheap, Cold Steel makes good ones for less than $20. Get a few.

I still stand by getting a mora for actuall bushcraft use

>>34446330
Need suggestions for a fighting knife for overseas covert work.
>4-5" blade
>turn key purchase ie. good sheath included
>preferably spearpoint/dagger or something that can penetrate

Currently looking at the following
>WK II defensive dagger
>EK/Jarosz boot knife
>WK II operator

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>>34452499
>what's a good "outdoorknife" that is good for throwing and light bushcraft?

>>34452069
>too big
Look my original thought was a kukri but I subscribe to the stab dont slash school of thought

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>>34452589
Why not something IWB?

How about a small esee like the 3 or the laser strike? The sheath retention is great but you can still draw fast. The 3 is my choice for the worst places.

>>34450932
swamp rat mojo

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Fixed blades

>>34450177

I didn't say any thing about carrying it, I just want one to fuck around with in my home.

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>>34450177
but that's wrong anon

Knife laws are made at the state level and range wildly.

I carry pic related every day. It is double edged, and I carry it in my boot.

I live in South Carolina, and South Carolina says you can have and carry whatever kind of knife you want, but if you have to use it, its considered a concealed weapon and you need a permit for concealed carrying. Since I have a CWP, I am all good.

>>34446330
Good EDC knives are SOGzilla. It's light, thin and not too bulky. Can be had for real cheap. If you want more quality get a Benchmafe Griptilian or Spyderco Paramilitary.

For bushctaft/survival knives you can't go wrong with a Kabar BK7 or BK9, the ESSEE 4&5, and the TOPS Tahoma Field Knife and TOPS BOB.

>>34452444
How do you feel about the Mercator?

>>34452589
would also consider the winkler dynamis knife or the kryptos knife if you want it for fighting. They're a bit under 4" blade length though.

>>34447548
nah, man, the seal pup is good. Shame you have to pay extra for a non-serrated version though.

>>34447690
>>34447701
I'd like not to buy any additional models.
>>34452499
>what's a good "outdoorknife" that is good for throwing and light bushcraft?
Just find yourself a well-made puukko.

>>34446508
Was just getting ready to post this. In the thumbnail for a second I thought that they had finally done that.

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Anyone know any good bushcraft knives?

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>>34455745

anything similar to pic related - ~4 inch blade, 1/8 inch thick, scandi grind, drop point, spear point, or straight back, simple handle wit no guard, and no "fancy" finger grooves.

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>>34451771
Bowie.

Trench knives are aesthetic, but are pretty limited technique wise while also being annoying to use should you have to use it for utility.

I recommend the A. G. Russell 2017 Texas Ranger Bowie.

>>34453003
>but I subscribe to the stab dont slash school of thought
Why?

Even with a small knife, slashing is a lot more effective than people give credit (since it seems like people think slashes literally do nothing and stabs are the only way to kill somebody).

When you're rocking a big fucking knife like a bowie, cutting becomes a lot more viable.

>>34452097
I like them.

>>34455855
Who makes that?

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any thoughts on the seax? I think that they seem pretty cool and I think it is pretty interesting that they are a weapon that my ancestors would have used.

>>34455995

it's pretty much a more primitive bowie.

>>34455949
Mariusz Przybyłowski, Polish knifemaker:
http://tlim.net/dostepne.php

but that's one of the countless variations of the woodlore knife designed by Ray Mears, and any number of knifemakers will have a similar design - condor bushlore, lt wright gns, skookum bush tool, etc. that's why I listed the general specs.

Is 1080 a decent steel for a knife?

>>34452589
"Fighting knife " can mean a bunch of different things.

>knife used to dual against another person with a knife
>knife used to shank somebody who doesn't know you're there
>knife used to cut somebody who's all up in your grill trying to disarm you

>>34453100
Definitely not ruling out anything IWB. I'm not sure what the laser strike is so I'll look that up.

>>34455447
I really like the Kryptos mounting options. One of the reason I was leaning towards Winkler was their robust sheaths.

>>34456351
The knife at times may be my primary weapon system so gaining standoff would not always be the immediate goal but a disabling strike.

All my knife fighting, takedown training thus far as been on a 6" dagger. (fairbairn sykes/applegate)

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>>34456451
What's your price range?

Boker makes reproductions of the Fairbairn/Applegate and the Applegate/Harsey daggers.

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>>34455247
For the price it's pretty good, did come with some rough edges, and could have been sharper, but nothing that bad.

I don't carry it often because I like modern luxury (one hand opening, pocket clip, ect...), but it is a capable knife.

If you are into collecting/history, it is worth picking one up.

>>34456259
Typically 1080 is a good steel for a larger, out doorish knife. Of course heat treatment is very important, even the best steels can be shit with a bad temper. Luckily, 1080, and all the 10XX (1045, 1055, 1060, 1075, 1095, ect...) steels are very easy to heat treat at lest good enough.

Keep in mind, it is a high carbon steel. It will rust very fast if not coated or cared for.

>>34457121
up to 400 I guess. my only limitations is blade length, for whatever reason. 5" and below.

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>>34457400
Also maybe look into the headhunter blades Rat?

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I need advice for a good edc fixed blade. I have a folding blade, but it isn't great or anything. And am poorfag, so not any super expensive sheeit. Also, if y'all know about any like pic related, that'd be nice

>>34457452
Really admire the blade designs at headhunter blades. Literally an arm and a leg for AUS-8 steel though? Why?

Did I fall for the S35VN meme?

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>>34457531
headhunter blades is kind of a ripoff desu
although they're still cool

idk i like my Joe Watson Magni but he's like impossible to get a blade off of right now cause everything he posts for sale goes in like 1 day

>>34457560
Their RAT is AUS8 and other knives are A8 which is allegedly comparable to CMPV3

>>34457526
ESEE IZULA?
SOG PENTAGON?

>>34457560
I briefly considered Joe Watson until I realized his shit is indeed unobtainable,

>>34456252
Thanks

>>34457640
is Ban Tang still making knives? I know Ian Wendt at Special Circumstances is but his waitlist or whatever is insane

>>34457640
Thanks anon I think I'll actually get the izula

>>34457640
i've heard a lot of rumors lately that the headhunterblades knives are midtechs made in Taiwan. Nothing wrong with Taiwan made knives but HHB charge insane prices for what the knives are. Makes me sad because I like their designs but when I paid half as much for a Joe Watson it put things in perspective for me.

>>34457727
yay I helped.

>>34457707
No Idea m9. Ban Tang's website is still up last I checked.

Anybody have experience with self reliance essentials?

>>34457746
Not surprising considering a thread from M4carbine shows they didn't even list their steel for the RAT for the longest time.

Good thing to keep in mind though.

>>34457793
I may talk to Winkler and see if he will make me a scaled down NSW Dagger.

>>34457782
>self reliance essentials
looks neat

forgot to mention maybe american kami?

>>34457782
Do you know any cheaper knives like it tho? As I said, am poorfag

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also the bawidamann huginn looks promising

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Anyone got some real ascetic shit?
(ignore the faggot, it's a european)

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Ascetic is a /n/ meme btw

>>34457860
The production clinch pink is cheap

Also check out pinkerton knives.

>>34457826
His m90 series of daggers made out of S7 tool steel are on my wishlist but I don't think I can justify it prior to deployment. I spent more of my suit stipend on suits than expected.

>>34457560
>ripoff desu
>Joe Watson

>>34457974
>hoogin :D:D:D:D:D:
it does and would buy but all I see is their acid etched collector fag model.

>>34457860
Link for dummies
https://www.amazon.com/Shivworks-Products-Group-Clinch-Pick/dp/B01H810BJS/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01H810BJS&pd_rd_r=7032KCPHNETRZWQ2HM0V&pd_rd_w=jYnne&pd_rd_wg=l0vwZ&psc=1&refRID=7032KCPHNETRZWQ2HM0V

>>34458258
do explain plox

>>34458258
1/10 got me to reply

>>34458278
he's blind and thinks Watson stole his designs from Winkler (???)

he also went off about Joe "stealing" Shivworks' reverse edge design, which doesn't make any sense when Joe is like one of 3 knifemakers Craig recommends.

>>34458279
But why do you keep posting that same silly pic with the glove? I mean, take a better photo, bro.

>>34458294
>me and Joe and Craig is boyz, yo. go ways back

>>34458305
cause i'm a lazy faggot and it serves the purpose of stirring shit up in here

im not gonna sit around taking jerk off photos of my knife like some kind of goddamn collector

>>34458316
do you even own a knife or do you just shitpost

>>34458318
>>34458316
>>34458305
>>34458279
wtf is even going on here. What feud is happening.

>>34458330
read https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/34395559/ to experience the autism

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Parents got me this fixed from Oaxaca Mx.
They gots some nice quality blades down there.

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>>34457400
For $400 I'd go custom. I recommend J.W. Bensinger (who I've shilled before a couple times in these threads). Pic related is a Fairbairn Shanghai-style knife done by him.

I've also worked with Matt Freeman. The guy is a character (literally a reformed meth seller), but his work is actually fairly clean and decent quality. Pretty fast and affordable too as far as custom knives go.

I haven't personally worked with Ban Tang, but he's relatively local and I've heard his stuff is pretty good. One of his knives is on my wishlist.

Fred Perrin's knives aren't pretty, but are some of the most functional fighting knives out there.

As far as factory knives go, I like the Spyderco-Perrin Street Bowie and the Spyderco Ronin 2.

>>34457707
>>34457782
Ban Tang still posts fairly frequently on Facebook. Not sure if he's taking orders though.

>>34458728
>As far as factory knives go, I like the Spyderco-Perrin Street Bowie and the Spyderco Ronin 2.
my nigga

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also how could we forget bud nealy?

>>34448647
What knife is that and how is it

>>34452081
Muh dik. May have to get one myself now.

>>34448647

What knife is this?

>>34458354
Isn't it a tad autism if you keep and post the archive link?

>>34459990
Not that anon, but it looks like a Cold Steel GI Tanto. They come with plastic handles, people commonly replace them with para cord wraps.

Pretty good beater knife, cheap, and being 1055, does not hold an edge so well, but extremely strong.

Would I be set with an esee 3 or 4 and a junglas for general innawoods stuff? Maybe throw a folding saw in my pack?

>>34461179
>not bringing a tomahawk
faggot nigger titty.

>>34459472
i know, rite? it's got that perfect japanese tanto wakizashi shape. I've seen the reviews and it feels great in hand too.
looks like an assassin's blade.

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I make knives for a living.

>>34451422
Damascus steel

>>34460052

found it in 2 minutes by searching "joe watson"

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>>34447548
I've had good experiences with sog, I have the sog quake XL plus a couple sog flash 2s.

Pic top to bottom is sog quake XL, lighting Otf, Zero tolerance 0350, CRKT homefront tanto which I just got in the mail today

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any thoughts on the kershaw cinder?

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Do we like cleavers?

>>34464350
Except you can't really cleave with that design.

>>34450177
>Federally, it's illegal to carry double-edged knives unless you're FBI, CIA, armed forces, etc. in the US.

Incorrect. The 1958 Federal Switchblade Act is the only federal knife law.

Can anyone recommend a good combat knife?

Preferably one I can buy on Amazon.

>>34452547

What case is that?

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>>34464674
Got a maximum budget or any personal preferences? Also, do you actually plan to carry this knife? Because if so then post your state so people can see if their recommendations go against state law.

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>>34464112
Have you seen then new Lightning OTFs? They got a tanto now

>>34446330
Anybody have a guide to knife fighting?

>>34464778
I wish they would upgrade The handle to anodized aluminum, they'd like corner the OTF market. But no I haven't seen those before, really sexy

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I made a separate thread about this but it died kinda quickly, maybe it's better to post it here.

What do you guys think about boot knives? Are they stupid or useful? What makes a good boot knife (if you think they're useful)? Should it be straight or serrated? How long should it be? Do you put the sheath inside the boot or tie it to the outside?

>>34464934
Stupid

>>34464718

Not planning to carry it just something for in my house, I'm in MD if that helps and about $50

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>>34464718
SP-10 is a great knife. I really like mine. It's really exceptional given the $50ish price tag and being made in the US out of 1095.

But not with out flaws. It has a very thick grind and bevel. For a knife that is sooo heavy, it does not chop that well because the grind.

I've been reprofiling mine as a little side project.

>>34464934
Far more uncomfortable than they are useful.

>>34452096
>not getting the Army version
fuckboi

>>34464934
Personally, I would get a knife and get a sheath that would go around your ankle. Boot knives are a bit impractical, but I'd like one nonetheless.

>>34464934
>What do you guys think about boot knives? >Are they stupid or useful?
Useful if you're a 19th century gambler.

>Should it be straight or serrated?
Doesn't really matter.

>How long should it be?
Blade is around 3-5 inches, otherwise it wouldn't be concealable

>Do you put the sheath inside the boot or tie it to the outside?
It's supposed to go inside

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Carry something substantial.

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Thoughts on Benchmade knives? Are some of them worth the price?

>>34467848
As long as you get something in good steel. The higher end blades are great.

>>34467703
Honestly I would say a boot knife is good for any situation where you are seated and a threat might come from across a table e.g at a card came. Them cowboy gamblers had the right idea.

>>34467848
None of them are technically worth the price since they're artificially expensive.

>>34462294
Oh look. A bowie knife with a cheap wooden handle.

Fuckin be original, create a new blade design.

Mora and Martini are the only knives i would buy desu.

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>>34467848
Benchmade is great but overpriced. Not a big deal in my opinion considering most if not all high end knife manufacturers are overpriced. If you find a design you really like I say go for it.

Considering dropping the $400+ on the Anthem myself just to add an integral to my collection.

>>34468657
Forged 5160, antler, and red bud burl with a blackened steel guard... Sure, call it cheap all you want. Its what the customer ordered. Sounds like someone's analpained that they cant afford custom work.

>>34462294
>antler and wood don't look even
>guard looks like you just lft the scale on
>grind starts way too low
apply yourself

anyone have the bark river bravo knife? How is it if I'm going to get it as a 4" do-everything fixed blade for all my outdoor needs?

>>34468826
Show us your work.

>>34468776
I'd at least ask for something better than a fucking fudd bowie.

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Can you guys suggest some knife company that makes quality tanto knives?
Now i am browsing trough the knifecenter.com but i have no idea what to get. Up to $300

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>>34462294

dont let 4chan discourage you, just keep on doing your thing

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>>34469586
What blade geometry are you looking for? Is this tanto for concealment, as a weapon of last resort? Or perhaps you need a stiff sidearm to pierce steel armor?

Or will it be to seppuku yourself after you spend $300 on a shitty knife-point that makes the knife nearly useless for any practical purposes while taking no inspiration from history?

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>>34468952
like what?

I'm not a fan of bowie knives (or big knives in general), but if you want a "new blade design", I have just the thing for you:

>>34469586
get a clip point for stabbing better, drop point for "im worried about breaking the top off on a bone" and tanto point for chilling with your clique outside hot topic

>>34469700
tip*

>>34469680
>>34469700

It will be a gift for my soon to be 14 year old cousin. He will probably stab random shit around the house and showing it to his buddies. So something sturdy but tanto-ish.

>>34469714
something by SOG or another name brand cheap knife for 50~120 is what you should look for, he won't be able to appreciate quality beyond that. You can get a knife that LOOKS $300 from china pretty cheaply anyway.

If it's for a 14 year old, the tanto point is definitely exactly what you need.

If you really spend $300 though, buy something he can put down because it's not cool enough now then pick back up when he's 22 and carry for the rest of his life.

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I know this doesn't belong here since it's not really a knife but I feel like if I make a new thread I'll get memed into oblivion.
I want a very specific weeb shortsword, a 13th century transitional blade halfway between the chokuto (a ripoff of Chinese straight blades) and the distinctly Japanese wakizashi (a samurai's second, shorter sword). Now there is no real name for these things which makes that very hard, so I tried "straight wakizashi" which led me to the dreaded ninjato (sword class made up by retards in the 60s who claim they were used by ninjas with absolutely no historical basis). Now, the problem is some realization of a ninjato might actually be close enough to what I want, but I seriously doubt anyone making one is producing a good product and not just selling overpriced autism to weeaboo LARPers. Now with all that explaination out of the way I desperately hope you can take my question at least a little bit seriously.
Does anyone make high quality weeaboo LARPing supplies?

>>34469728
There was no terminology for the very short period of time that chokuto were transitioning to katana, it will be virtually impossible for you to find one. You can actually find combat ready ninjato, but your best bet is chinese forges.

start by speaking chinese and go to/talk to someone in long'quan

>>34469743
>There was no terminology for the very short period of time that chokuto were transitioning to katana, it will be virtually impossible for you to find one.
Yeah, that's why I'm trying to settle. I really don't want to break the bank getting something custom made.
>You can actually find combat ready ninjato, but your best bet is chinese forges.
>start by speaking chinese and go to/talk to someone in long'quan
Fuck me. So no decent internet shops then?

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>>34464934
>Are they stupid or useful?
Generally speaking people wear knives in their boots because they don't have a belt or they're prioritizing concealment over ease of access. Back in high school I started sticking a knife in my boot because people started accosting me on the way home but that knife was only in my boot (which will require getting used to BTW) at school where it needed to be hidden, I stuck it in my pocket as soon as I was on the bus and had my hand on it from the moment I got off. Unless you're wearing a speedsuit or you can't let people know you have a knife you're probably better off with another method of carry.
>What makes a good boot knife?
A good point and relatively short overall length seem to be universal features.
>Should it be straight or serrated?
Really doesn't matter for a knife meant to be used on people.
>Do you put the sheath inside the boot or tie it to the outside?
I've seen people do both but if you're doing this for the purpose of concealment the knife should be inside the boot. The only time I've seen a boot knife outside the boot is on soldiers (as far back as WW2) but in modern times I'm pretty sure it's a comfort thing that people do because memes more than an "I don't have anywhere else to put this" thing.

>>34469727

Thanks for the advice. What do you think about KA-BAR tanto blades? They seem very affordable i might get him tanto and plain blade...

>>34469767
KA-BAR isn't as good as it was, but it's as quality as it gets before you spend hundreds of dollars. If you get two, here's a knife for life

amazon.com/dp/B001H53Q6M/

For my money, though, I'd always buy buck. look up the buck 109 and buck 115. Both are knife-for-life tier, function similarly to a USMC style ka-bar(the 115 is just an out and out upgrade) but both are much less "tacticool" and more presentable.

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>>34469728
>I desperately hope you can take my question at least a little bit seriously.
>Does anyone make high quality weeaboo LARPing supplies?

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I've seen a lot of tacticool knives having the blade angled a few degrees forward instead of having the blade inline with the grip. Is there any real gain in having the blade angled forward instead of inline, besides looking tacticool and scarier?

See shitty mspaint pic for example

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>>34464924
>Stick
>Do not get stuck
Now subscribe to my YouTube channel and support me on Patreon.

>>34465161
$50 can get you a pretty good knife or a nice machete. Is there any particular style of knife that you like?

>>34466131
>It has a very thick grind and bevel.
That's part of why I recommend it, people seem to love that shit and it's hard to find another bigass slab of quality steel in that price range. All the better if people know enough to reprofile the blade into something a bit more functional.

By the way, any tips for putting a good convex edge on a 20" curved blade? I bought a Condor tactana because the Hanwei tacwaks are pretty much impossible to find and I can't get an edge worth a damn. I figure I'm going to have to use the mousepad + sandpaper method but if you've got any input I'd like to hear it.

>>34469728
Check with /tg/. They might give you a better answer than /k/

>>34469876
Good for bush knives. It's for chopping action. Must be VERY VERY MILD to not turn a fighting knife useless.

>>34469845
You can't make fun of me! I'm just a history nerd, that's way better than pretending to be an anime girl, right?

>>34469888
That's where /his/ told me to go, they sent me here because they don't know much about anything but wall hangers.

>>34469751
Nah, but it's not 100% for sure futile to sort through ali, amazon(yes, really, chinese forges sell on amazon) and eBay. Good luck, weeabro.

>>34469881
Spend the couple hundred on a martial arts studio with a togishi.

>>34469714
>It will be a gift for my soon to be 14 year old cousin.
>14
Cold Steel recently released a variation of the recon tanto for $40, go with that.

>>34469728
>ninjato might actually be close enough to what I want
Well then check out Hanwei, they're probably your best bet. Make sure to look up specific reviews on anything you're thinking of purchasing, even companies that usually churn out good swords also make turds.

>>34469907
I guess I'll see what I can do short of hiring a Chinese proxy agent to go have one forged for me.

>>34469935
>unspecified "high carbon" steel
>synthetic handle
REEE

Thanks /k/.

>>34469988
It's 1060 which is what you want.

>>34469988
Well, look at it this way:

"had this hand forged for me from long'dong, not another like it in the world"

>>34470004
>1060 is what you want
I'll take 1095 for $2000 alex.

>>34470004
>It's 1060 which is what you want.
I kind of want L6 Bainite, actually, but am willing to settle for 1095 because I'm not made of money. Just because I'm not /k/ doesn't mean I'm a total putz.

>>34470006
Yeah but also
>When I open my wallet a sad trombone noise comes out because I spent all my money on this bitching sword and the Asian lady who ordered it for me screwed me on shipping.

>>34470012
>>34470042
>1095 for a sword
Nah, you guys are dumbasses. 1095 is too brittle when striking harder targets which will inevitably happen because it's a fucking sword.
>L6 Bainite
They makes swords from that shit? I have a handsaw in it that's basically indestructible. It was also fuckspensive so I can't imagine how much a full sword would be. 2 grand?

>>34469988
According to SBG it's 1065 but I can see why it'd be unsettling to not see it from the manufacturer directly, I hate that shit too. Condor makes a pretty nice wakizashi, you might want to take a look at that. Kondoru is a stupid name but the product line seems solid.

>>34470075
You are a complete moron, 1095 is chosen for all high end kats. Just go google it for 10 seconds. It has to hold its edge for years, because sharpening them costs more than they do.

>>34446330
Any good blunt tip choppers?

>>34470075
>I'll take forging for $2000, Alex

>>34467815

Nerd!

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Okay so I'm retarded and bought a decent edc knife, but I've never learned how to sharpen my own knife and don't know if i should go and buy some big sharpening system so I don't fuck it up or if I should get stones and practice on an old shit knife. Plz help

>>34446330
Why does the government make shitty knife laws against double edge blades?

>>34446659
If you don't have a mora, get one. Of you take care of it you will have a durable tool that keeps a keen edge.

>>34470075
>1095 is too brittle when striking harder targets which will inevitably happen because it's a fucking sword.
Well how hard are talking? I've seen guys split wood by mashing a 1095 knife with a mallet and full body metal plate armor is kind of out of style these days.
>They makes swords from that shit?
You can have a sword made from cheese if you like but Google says yes they do.
>I can't imagine how much a full sword would be. 2 grand?
$1150 for a full katana from Hanwei.

>>34470242
Hypothetically if you intended to use it, harder is better. Period.

When you're cutting through bone 1060 will just flatten or roll(flatten if you cut perfectly, roll if you didn't) instead. Try cutting pork shoulders with a 1060 beater kat. I've done it. It doesn't work. It's not a matter of technique or sharpness.

>>34470276
I meant
>if you intend to use it, hypothetically
as in
>le home defense sword

>>34470276
Realistically it is an entirely ornamental piece but I'm one of those faggots who can't stand an exclusively ornamental piece if that makes any sense. There's nothing really special at all about a fake decoration, you know?
Whether or not I want to kill a watermelon man (as in a stickman with a watermelon for a head, I realize how you might be able to take that the wrong way) with it is purely coincidental.

>>34470297
I have a shitty Makarov I got for $200 because /k/ told me to a few years ago. In case you're wondering I don't plan to EDC the blade either.

>>34470343
Everybody loves watermelon. It is like saying children like candy and chicken tendies.

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>>34470343

>>34470343
Good man.

>>34469898
the Operator has spoken

>>34469898
>9898
Hey, 98. that's like 1998 the year Stone Cold Steve Austin really hit his peak. The year when The Undertaker threw Mankind off the Hell in the Cell into the Spanish announcers table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMp65SzyTU

>>34452119
More of a lawless wasteland where big box stores like to hide their headquarters.

>>34452499
SOG Fling. No fucking joke. I've used it as a can opener, trowel, spatula, tent stake, grapnel, piton, you name it. And they're top notch heavy weight throwing knives to boot. The downside is they have no real cutting edge.

>>34452547
hey Namefag, what size pelican is that and what's the length of the biggest knife you have that will fit in it?

>>34470168
Learn to hone.... Seek honing sticks.

>>34471982
zknives have some great articles about sharpening/stropping/steeling. Highly recommend that you read through them. Also Cliff Stamp has good articles.

My s110v ukpk chipped hard on a small cutting task. Don't think this will be my daily anymore.

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I really like the look of the BK2, is it actually a decent knife or just shit? I kind of want a good utility knife to replace my Mora.

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My latest, 12c27steel and spermwhale tooth handle.

>>34450945
aesthetic af

>>34475395
It's pretty heavy for a utility knife. If you like the look, check out the Becker BK16, which is similar looking but smaller and a lot lighter.

>>34475426
>>34475446
>>34475458
I like this one better than this one >>34462294 assuming you're the same guy.

>>34475700
The BK16 is only like an inch shorter right? Is it lighter because of that or is it thinner or something too?

>>34475900
It's thinner as well. Makes it nicer for most cutting tasks. The BK2 is a tough knife, but how often will you need that extra toughness? The BK16 is hardly weak.

>>34475989
I'm seeing the BK22 too, is that different than the BK2 at all? It seems like they're the same length overall, one just comes with a hard sheath which the other comes with a soft nylon sheath.

>>34476008
The BK2 and BK22 are the same other than the sheath.

>>34475395
I have one of these, heavy fucking monster of a knife. Have never used it, ever. I am thinking of selling it some day on ebay or the Buy & Sell.
It would not be a good choice for what you state.

Get an Esee 3

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>>34446330
What's the intended function of "cleaver" blades like the Spyderco Roc, besides being aesthetic as fuck?
Normal cleavers chop using the momentum of a thick, heavy blade, but obviously that can't translate very well to a relatively thin pocket knife that only weighs a few ounces.

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>>34476559
They're good for slicing. You'll see Chinese style cleavers that are used for heavy chopping like butchering, but also finer ones for slicing, and cleavers that are in between that are used for basically everything.

Traditional straight razors, like the pictured Japanese razor, often have a cleaver-ish shape.

Sheepsfoot knives have a similar shape as well. The rounded nose of the blade makes it difficult to stab something accidentally. You'd see the shape on traditional nautical knives., since ships are often slippery, cold, and dark. Not accidentally stabbing yourself is easier said than done in such an environment. It's also useful for modern day emergency medical personnel, since it's good to not accidentally stab your patient.

>>34476559
>>34477113

the dull end of a cleaver is meant to be pushed on while chopping on a work surface

it has no purpose in a small pocket knife design beyond ripping idiots off or selling to bongs who aren't allowed to have pointed knives

>>34477113
Better for slicing than a similarly-sized pointy knife (e.g., a Delica, in the Roc's case) that could also be used for intentional stabbing tasks?

I know you couldn't give the slightest shit, /k/, but I will never not be mad that I can't collect knives here in the UK.
What a load of shit.

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Anyone know where I can get this made?

>>34477380
Check somewhere like Bladeforums- they have several sections for custom knifemakers.

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>>34477186
Probably not since the edge on the Delica is pretty similar. Just saying that blade shape has its usefulness.

>>34477310
Spyderco makes a UK compliant knife. Not ideal, but it's as practical as you can get without having to bin it.

>>34477380
A trench/D-guard knife or that specific knife? How much do you want to spend?

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>>34477444
That specific style. I'm not sure. I figured anywheres from $200-$500 should get me what I want. Also pic related is a current George Clifton I've got in my collection

>>34446606
Second this question but are there camping folders that aren't opinel?

>>34477470
My bad it's Charles Clifton.

>>34473212
>Applegate
>tanto
SACRILEGE

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>>34477470
Treeman Knives makes a modern version.

Plowshare Forge does historical reproductions. I don't know if the guy makes that specific model, but he makes a bunch of trench knives, so he'll probably be able to do it.

>>34477856
I'm probably going to try and get that knife commissioned through Plowshare Forge. Thank you.

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Pulled the trigger on an Al Mar Falcon. Watch them release an M390 version now after all these years...

I tried to sharpen my knife with a whetstone for the first time, and it's even more dull. what do I do? throw all my knives and stuff away?

>>34479963

1. Practice sharpening on a cheap knife/knives until you git gud.

2. Have someone else do it.

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>>34469881
>By the way, any tips for putting a good convex edge on a 20" curved blade?

Katana sharpening in general is pretty complicated, and the tactana having a coating makes it harder.

First off, did Condor sharpen it "correctly" (more historically) or "cheat"; aka is it already convexly ground or does it have a "v" bevel. Also do you want it to look good at the end, that part may take you a few tries.

To sharpen it convexly you are going to end up stripping that coating, at lest about an inch up from the edge.

The cheap way of doing it is with progressively higher grits of sandpaper pads, with water, on a mouse pad (to make it convex). Or you may consider stripping that coating and then sending it off to a professional, for like $50 basic sharpening, and then just stropping after use. If you are cutting normal mediums and not wood, it's sharpness should last many months of common use.

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>>34469925
>variation of the recon tanto for $40
What are you talking about? The cheapest variation (only variations of the Recon Tanto are different steels) is the VG-1 for like $60 on the side market.

You maybe thinking of the Kobun, witch you can find for $40. It is like the recon Tanto but smaller. It's been out for many many years. I bought one as a gift for a friend 5 years ago.

I would recommend it, it is a nice knife. The same build quality as the Recon Tanto (steel aside, pic related is mine).

>>34458231
>200 usd
Jesus, what's that made of?

What's a good steel for knife making for beginners? I made one with shitty steel, then a nice one with Damascus steel now I wanna try something else

>>34450177
>tfw I live in based AZ and you could even carry a sword if you really wanted to

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>>34470081
>for all high end kats

What a load of shit. Ever hear of L6, S7, 5160, 9160, ect... All of those, heat treat accounted for, are generally considered higher end steel for modern swords.

And generally something like 1065-1080 is more preferable to 1095 for swords.

>>34480471
I've already stripped the coating and Condor did indeed send it convexed, although it'd be a stretch to say it actually had an edge on it. Guess I'll put on some anime and do the sandpaper method.

Also,
>https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CS49LRTZ/cold-steel-49lrtz-recon-tanto-fixed-black-sk-5-blade-kray-ex-handle-secure-ex-sheath
>$41.95

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>>34481163
Well holy crap, they brought back SK-5... Would have been nice though if they could have made it in America like the old SK-5 ones.

Probably would have been expensive enough though that it would not be worth getting it over the CPM-3v one.

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Best $30 I ever spent

>>34482052
cut and clean your nails.

>>34482052
>that watch
>those nails
>that skin
>that knife

official basement dweller.

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>>34482099
1. watch is a great automatic snk809
2. i didn't know you faggots cared so much about nails
3. you don't like white people?
4. whats wrong? its a great utility knife?

>official basement dweller
can you not see the window right next to the computer you projecting faggot?

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BF-Knife

>>34482052
*cringes*

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>>34482253
nice emote!

>>/reddit/

>>34469766
>speedsuit

Go Team Venture!

>>34450177
You are completely wrong about double edged knives, it depends on your state. And if you want 4 inches to be the maximum for carry many of the knives in your pic, assuming they are yours, are over 4 inch blade length, and not just the fixed blades.

>>34446330
Ya'll should check out Mike Vellekamp's new brand, V Knives, they have a kickstarter going with good deals and they are naming one of their upcoming models after me thanks to my input during a Facebook live session when he was designing it, great company with some great looking models coming out.

>>34470168
Go buy a Norton India IB8 combination coarse/fine oilstone, some light mineral oil, and some cheap knives and then watch this video and practice what you see until you can reliably reproduce the results obtained in the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWU_qTp3DLM

>>34475106
Given the extremely high vanadium and chromium content of s110v, I would really consider it a fairly specialised steel for slicing soft abrasive materials like rope and cardboard. I would avoid steels like it (s90v/10V) unless the overwhelming majority of your cutting is that type of work.

Something with a more moderate carbide volume like s30v, s35vn, CTS-XHP, CPM-M4, or CPM-Cruwear will provide a much better trade-off between slicing edge retention and edge stability (i.e. resistance to microscopic chipping at the apex).

>>34475395
It's absolutely awful. It's blade geometry is thicker than most literal choppers while not having the blade length to actually make any use of such a geometry.

It's almost better described as a knife shaped object than an actual knife.

>>34479963
See:
>>34483337

>>34446330
please, no bully i want a fairbairn but they are too much... i could buy 2 or 3 packs of fed ammo for $60 are there any good chink daggers for 20 30 bucks? please no bully...

Condor Hudson Bay or Schrade Schf 52?

>>34468762
Get the sr11 my man, much better fit and finish, titanium integral from lionsteel who popularised the design, and m390 blade steel, arguably the best overall modern steel to date

>>34479939
The day al Mar up their steel is the day I buy 3 different models from bladehq

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>>34483642

Same. Though they do have some in ZDP-189. This is also how I feel about Emerson knives.

>>34483439
Find knockoffs on aliexpress, same great construction, alright steel, but for fraction of price

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Picked up this guy for $20 in a garage sale, still in the package. I'm sort-of a newfag with knives. How'd I do?

>>34464272
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>>34464934
They're useful, when you're wearing high boots.
>What makes a good boot knife
It should be long enough to be useful as a murdering tool, but not too long. No handguard or stuff like that. It should be taken out easily, without any problems with cloth
Straight only.
Rusdamask makes a replica of one of custom WWII knifes. The original knife was found inside the boot of a dead soldier and it was 27cm long. Probably, concidering the length of modern military boots, you should get something smaller, like Marttiini Lynx 131

>>34483842

Fine/10.

>>34483842
You did alright. Enjoy the knife.

>>34483981
>knife only for stabbing
>no handguard
Pick one. You only need a half inch on each side, bro, if you hit something hard while you're stabbing your hand is done.

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>>34484094
>Pick one.
For some reason finns and yakuts needed no handguard and they were fine with it.

>>34484126
A knife without a handguard is not suitable for safely stabbing. Boot knives are not tool knives.

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>>34484243
Well, it depends on how you hold it.

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>>34484283
Other than "with two hands, one on the butt of the knife" there is no safe way. You still can't push with the hand that's holding the handle.

Think this shit all you want, if you stab a guy and hit his rib you will be worse off than him.

A flare like this is the BARE MINIMUM for a boot knife. Boot knives are for deploying in an emergency and shanking someone, not opening packages.

>>34484126
jeez anon those sure are boot knives for stabbing ya got there. those tribesmen's utility blades. with loops to hang from.

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>>34484328

>>34484334
It doesn't mean that you can't put them inside your boot. Our there are lots of examples from Civil War era and WWII.

>>34484347
Hold a knife like that and stab something moderately stiff, like a thick plastic container.

>>34484372
>people of virtually no means using what they had to defend their life
>buying a boot knife on amazon
These are two radically different situations.

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>>34484383
Maybe later, it's 3:33 am now.
>>34484422
They always had the choice. Like picrelated for soviets.

>>34450945
That is AESTHETIC as fuck

Custom job or did you get it from somewhere?

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>>34464699
>>34471097
Sorry I missed this, it's a Pelican 1500. How large of knife you can carry depends on how many you want to carry. I have the folders sitting vertically, my Spyderco Ti Military is just about as large as it can fit in that way. I have 2 horizontal slots for larger knives, a Cold Steel Pocket Bushman and Cold Steel XL Talwar. I can even fit my XL Espada in, but I don't have a dedicated spot for it.

I actually just got a 1560 as well for my sharpening set up, pic related. I have not settled on a final place for the guide arms because I may get longer ones.

>>34484839
>>>AUTISM<<<

>>34484839

Nice. I'm saving for my Wicked Edge now.

Why do people hate serrations so much?

I've never considered them useful, but I was never of the mind that I wouldn't buy a knife because it had a small serrated section.

>>34485014
The wierd thing about it is that they're useful no matter how razor sharp your knife is. Sure, you can sharpen a knife to be as functionally sharp as a store bought pocket folder with serrations. But if you sharpened the folder with serrations to the same bevel, the serrated one would still end up with more cutting power...

>>34449834

The Cold Steel Peacemaker series really improves on them for only a little more money.

Great positive grip, classic blade shape and Scandinavian grind. Excellent sheath.

Mine is my go to bush knife. So far I've gutted and butchered one deer and three hogs with it. Just keeps on trucking.

>>34455247
Get the carbon steel one, and spend some time getting it good and sharp. Keeps an edge well, takes a wicked sharp one with little effort, and it slices great. I really enjoy using mine.

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>>34484876
I agree but sometimes Autism pays. Everything in that picture has been more than paid for by my sharpening.

>>34484904
Nice but also consider looking into the Edge Pro and others. I really like my WE set up, but you do not need to spend soo much to get almost as good or as good results.

>>34485047
Not necessarily, a straight edge can do just about anything a serrated edge can do, but a serrated edge cant do everything a straight edge can do. More so, I say this as a guy with well over $1,500 of different sharpening set ups, you can't get a serrated edge to half the sharpness as you can get a straight edge. Most people have not truly handled a properly hair spiting sharp knife, I've handled vary few knives with a factory edge that have what I would consider "higher level sharpness".

>>34485014
Most people don't have a use for them and it doesn't help that serrations on a lot of things are only there for the cool factor, not to mention there's TONS of fuddlore and mallninja scrolls concerning serrations on knives. I occasionally use serrations for things that would fuck up a fine edge but such things are rare and it's not like a fine edge wouldn't make the cut but it might not be so fine after. Also some people just don't like the way they look.

>>34485125
You have to use round files, you dunce. The edge retention is no lower, you just can't sharpen it because you rely on 'kits'

Several hundred molecules thick is several hundred molecules thick, and adding curves doesn't inherently make the metal more brittle.

This is the fuddiest lore available to modern man.

>>34485125
>$1500 of sharpening setups lends credence to my argument
Learn to use a $20 stone and a strop, then tell anyone anything about sharpening.

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>>34483439
>can't pay $60 for a knife
c'mon son

>>34483571
Condor. Schrade is all just Chinese knives coasting on the name.

>>34484328
>Other than "with two hands, one on the butt of the knife" there is no safe way.

>>34485125
>you can't get a serrated edge to half the sharpness as you can get a straight edge.
You can polish a serrated knife senpai.

>>34485435
show me how to draw a boot knife with an ice pick grip, or explain to me a situation when you need a quick deploy concealed knife, but have a second to switch grips

It's not like I think "poking forward" is the only way to hold a knife, y'know. This is just a particular kind of knife.

>>34485598
>>34485435
You also can't shank someone with an ice pick grip, and they can far more easily block it by holding their arm in front of your forearm. even instinctive face covering can defeat ice pick grip temporarily

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>>34485367
>The edge retention is no lower
Citation needed, I never once mentioned edge retention. Nor did I say I can't sharpen serrations, I keep a Spyderco Sharpmaker and ceramic files in my sharpening case with my WE just for this. But I'm stating a fact when I say you can't get serrations as sharp as a straight edge, at lest with a "round file".

>>34485387
You don't think I do know how to free hand? I grew up learning on my Grandfathers Norton Tri-stone. I've got a full skew of water stones just for that, but it's more time efficient to use a jig sharpener like the wicked edge for mass sharpening.

>>34485435
Well tell me how to get a finish on any given serration pattern like the polish I got on pic related. And then figure how to do it in a timely manner as to make it profitable and cheap enough for sharpening clients to pay for.

>>34485675
Keeping and having int he first place are part of retaining, as I'm using it in this sentence.

If you can't get serrations as sharp as a straight blade, that's your fault. It's technique. Period.

>fact
>because i know how to sharpen knives
>i know what I dont know because I know what I know

Been trying to figure what my SOG is for a while. Turn out it is a "Seal 2000."

Are these things actually any good?

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>>34485626
>You also can't shank someone with an ice pick grip
wut

>>34486347
So his boot knife is just for backwards shanking while he holds off the main brigand with his sword? Fair enough.

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>>34485710
Okay I'll wait for the pictures of mirror polished, hair splitting, serrations. Not to mention the great diversity of serration design.