PSG

Remmington confirmed for going off the deep end?https://www.remington.com/custom-shop/classic-series-rifles/model-700/ultimate-sheep-rifle

>>34442890
>https://www.remington.com/custom-shop/classic-series-rifles/model-700/ultimate-sheep-rifle
>$6000
And you know one in five of those guns will shoot 4 MOA and they'll call it "acceptable". When is old Remington coming back, daddy. :'(

>>34442890
>>34442911
Stop being so antisemitic.

>>34442911
Never. Remington must die.

>>34442890
>5.6 LBS
>Ultimate sheep rifle

Lel. A Kimber Adirondack weighs 4 LBS 12 OZ and can be had for about 1/6th the price, 100% reliable and probably shoot circles around the Remington.

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>>34442890
Who the fuck would pay $6000 for a bubba'd-looking 6.5 creedmore

>>34442994
Go away MAC

>>34443011
Who the fuck would pay any sum of money for anything Remington?
Fudds and people who Google "top ten ____" then buy #1.

>>34442790
nice try for a thread op too bad for you Remington came out with a $6000 rifle.

I have a Remington 700 SPS Varmint with 26" barrel 1/12 twist. I've been thinking about cutting the barrel down to either 20 or 22". What length would be best for .308? The SPS Tactical uses the same barrel but only 20" long and still accurate. Also some people have reported an increase in accuracy using 175gr SMKs when they cut their SPS-V barrel down to 20".

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5 rounds of fiocchi cheap 55gr 5.56. Wilson combat barrel 1-9. Not bad for an ar.

>>34443610
I think 20" is the best for 308. 6.5CM should be 24".

Damnit, I'm debating on whether to thread my CZ 513 (cheap version of a CZ 452) or get a Savage MKii FV-SR. The trigger on my gun is absolute shit but I'm fine with it. I want to put my octane 45 suppressor on it.

>>34442790
RPR in 6.5
Vortex PST 6x24 ffp EBR 2C
147 gr ELD-m or 143 eldX @2715 or 2760
fed 210 match primers.
R17 powder
100y zero

>>34444154
Oh and over 4000.
1300 rifle
1100 optic
150 scope mount.
200 for hard side case
450 for a kilo 2000
200 for a kestrel
Lots of other small stuff.
200 for ebel hunting backpack.

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>>34444116
I've been reading that 20" is the best for .308 but I think i've made my decision and i'm gonna cut it down to 22" (23" total 22 from lug to muzzle). I really like the look of the GAP Crusader and I am buying the McMillan A5 stock so might as well complete the look.

>>34444182
Difference between 18 and 24 is minimal.

>>34444154
>Vortex PST 6x24 ffp EBR 2C
How do you like this scope? I'm thinking about picking one of these up. Are Gen 2 better?

>fed 210 match primers
how important are primers? I'm just getting into reloading and when I bought components they were out of federal gold medal primers so i bought regular cci primers. The rest of my components are:
168 & 175gr Sierra MatchKings
Lapua Brass
>Powder
Reloader 15 (3lb)
IMR 4064 (1lb)
Varget (1lb)
bought different powders to see which one I liked best. dont remember why i bought more reloader 15 than any of the others though

>>34444192
ty my dude. Just made my decision easier. i've had an irrational fear that cutting down my barrel would cause my rifle to be unable to hit the broad side of a barn

>>34444154
Do 140 ELDM or RDF's instead. Also, RL16 will get you better velocity and temp stability than 17.

>>34444225
It's an awesome scope; there's a reason it's pretty much the standard. I chose the gen1 over the gen2 because it's 8oz lighter.

>>34444182
Nothing wrong with more barrel, it'll give a bit more velocity

>>34444277
are gen1s being fazed out? or just out of stock at the moment? I found some on ebay and am wondering whether or not I should jump on it.

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>>34444014
No, it's not.

Everyone seems to underrate what AR's can do.

>>34444381
Yes, they're discontinued and if you find one it's either used or NOS.

>>34443021
Tfw I used to want a M40A3 clone, but the remington 700 rusts

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If you would, /psg/, which brand of reloading equipment did you choose and why?

It's occurred to me that if I simply didn't buy one gun (wtf?) I could buy a complete reloading setup and start working on the knee high pile of brass I've accumulated.

I plan to reload .308, .223 and 6.5CM for precision and 9mm, .45 and .223 for blasting purposes.

>>34443011
I know a guy who would. Probably will.

Does adding a well designed brake negatively affect accuracy? I have a .300 rum and would like to be able to keep my scope on target after the shot better.
Do I need a special brake for the magnum cartridge or can I use any as long as it's .30 cal?

>>34445980
Lee Classic turret press. Though I think non-precision or non-$$$ ammo is stupid to load for. I'm not a super big fan of the lee stuff but it works.

I would get a Redding T7 turret press, lee dies, two RCBS charge masters, and case prep equipment.

>>34445980
just getting into reloading and i bought a hornady lock n load progressive but havent used it yet

>>34443610
Search for the swat reports on 308 barrel lenght on google.
To summerize they went for the 20inch barrel, better accuracy because barrel is stiffier and the fps drop is correct

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>>34442790
I've been looking for a hunting/precision gun and I settled on .308 over 30-06.
I've also been looking at a Ruger American. But what is the difference between a Ruger American and a Ruger American Predator?

I guess I should also ask about scopes. I'm on a bit of a budget.

>>34447160
rail on top and threaded barrel. PA 4-14 FFP mildot or swfa ss 10x. get a variable 3-9x (vortex) if you're hunting.

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what ammo other than federal gold metal match should i try? will be getting 100 rounds or so of each to try.

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I'm about to get pic related in a week.

What bipod should I put on it?

>>34447192
Thanks.

>>34447232
cheapo caldwell or an atlas

>>34447224
people seem to like prime or black hills.

>>34447386
I was pretty much thinking Atlas PSR

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Just picked up a factory new Springfield M1A "loaded" a couple weeks ago.
Went to the range and shot 160 rds. at 100 yards over 2 trips.
The groups I got ranged between 2"-4" while using iron sights with sandbags in front and rear.
The load I was using was just cheap Federal XM80C NATO ball ammo.
Do these groups sound about right for my rifle/ammo combination?
Or is my autism going into overdrive thinking that my rifle isn't performing well?

>>34447466
The M1A is not a precision rifle, however M80 ammo is absolute shit for accuracy, so I would consider 2-4" fine, especially with iron sights. Get a box of federal gold metal match (FGMM), 168's or 175's are fine and your rifle should be able to do < 2 MOA groups.

>>34447224
Black Hills or Hornady match.

I've been extremely impressed with both. I think the BH with the SMK shoots a cunthair tighter but it's hard to argue with the BC of the Hornady ELD's if you do serious distance.

>>34447493
I know technically the M1A is not precision, but I figured guys in this thread would be able to answer my question.
Thanks senpai. Will pick up some decent ammo next time.
For a rifle like a M1A, will the barrel "settle" at all after the first few hundred rounds?
Is it even a consideration?

>>34447466

shot better than me with a FAL

at 100 yards I'm lucky if I can hit the paper more than a few times, but I don't shoot braced with sandbags

the big 3 battle rifles aren't particularly known for supreme accuracy, but the M1A is probably the most stable system of the 3

>>34447521
It should, yes. Springfield does not lead-lap their barrels, so your first few hundred rounds will effectively fire lap it in.

It will have little if any impact on normal group size but you will see less deviation on first-round-after-cleaning and cold bore shots. It will also make cleaning easier. It's probably too late now but I do recommend following Krieger's barrel break-in procedure. Doesn't do much with lead-lapped barrels but it helps a ton (with cleaning) with production barrels.

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>>34447386
>>34447519
ill get some black hills

>>34447524
It's not

>>34447531
Would the barrel break-in procedure still be useful if I cleaned every last bit of copper fouling out of the bore with some copper solvent and then used the break-in procedure?

>>34447580
To aid in cleaning I mean.

>>34447524
>>34447558

I'd say a g3/hk91/ptr 91 would be the best suited of the 3 for out of the box accuracy, but you're still talking about 1+ MOA with quality ammo.

>>34447580
Potentially. Every barrel's different. Some guns benefit a lot, others not at all, with the majority being somewhere in between.

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>>34447521
Owned a National match , average groups with m80 @ 100 yards floated around 1.5 " - 3" any given sunday, so I think you're fine.

Just remember the m1a's don't like slow burning, powerful powder if you intent to reload.

>>34448121
>mfw

>>34447224
Remington Premier or Australian Outback

AO is the best ammo for under $0.80 a round I've ever shot, just slightly worse than Rem Premier or FGMM.

Prime is too expensive for what you get, they are charging 300$ for 200 rounds, and BlackHills popped primers in my AI so I won't pick up another box. It was 4/5 popped primers in 10 rounds, so I just stopped shooting it altogether. Same for IWI Razorcore, I popped 3 primers in 5 rounds and stopped shooting that. I would have liked for the IWI to work for me since its like 90-95cpr but oh well.

>>34444752
it could be yours... for a price
http://www.gaprecision.net/mil-spec-rifles/m40a3.html

>>34444752
see >>34448210
then see
http://www.texasbrigadearmory.com/pricing.htm

>>34448238
Not bad...

If you're ready for a 2 year wait.

>>34448121
I wish the actual german scopes had the knurled mag ring like the american made one.

>>34448258
Snipers man, they can just sit and wait forever it seems.

>>34448322
You're telling me. I'm the anon picking up the m98b. I have the money for a tacops, but I don't have the patience to wait 2 years.

>>34446937
Longer barrels you go slower powders. Gives better velocities.

>>34447224
Reloading setup

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Tikka T3X Tac A1 in 6.5 Creedmore
Athlon Helios BTR 6-24x50
Atlas BT10-LW17 V8 Bipod
Seekins 1.26" Rings

Recently got into shooting and the reviews on this were good and since many around here went with the RPR i decided to be different for my first gun.

>>34448612
You should throw an eotech ( or a rep) and shit post on /v/ once you get it.

>>34448703
I do have an eotech.

I could do that.

Or I can put my old 300 dollar PA 4-14 on it and post it on Snipers Hide. Got those gucci 20 dollar rings.

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>>34448730
The ladder sounds like a decent giggle.

>>34442790

Links for /PSG/
>Group calc program
http://www.ontargetshooting.com/
>Ballistic calc and chart
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi
>Turret/ milling/ basic windage/ basic drop/ Practice
http://www.shooterready.com/lrsdemo.html
>Data books
http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/forums/5539-diy/13433967-d-i-y-data-books

>Basic forum work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLfYLM48Ms [Embed]

>Glass basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVF2pdHbX1M [Embed]

>Sniper 101 link for the lazy crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwG-D0HjCBQ [Embed]


> Math suggestions to get you on target
http://www.millettsights.com/resources/shooting-tips/mathematics-for-precision-shooters/

>Blank dope book

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S4g3GGWc_ZrLoRyxGRso5bMPRpHaAmyxvtIVj_INddI/edit?usp=sharing
>Pathsofglory's fap page
http://precisionrifleblog.com/

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/09/19/tactical-scopes-field-test-results-summary/

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>>34448746
>Ladder

Fuck auto correct.

Latter.

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>>34448261
I wish they had the boffo magic revolution counter too.