*blocks your passage into South China Sea*

>>34438905
yeah, it's pretty hard seeing over that ramp.

>>34438905
*can't even pass first island chain without being shadowed

ftfy

>155 VLS cells of pain and death later, the SSGN sails straight through the SCS unmolested

>>34438905
What is that, one of those artificial reefs the Chinese are scattering all over the place?

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>>34438905
>poverty ramp

>>34440278
Not just that, but a
>1982
Poverty ramp

>>34440254
It will be if it ever enters combat

>>34438905
Doesn't block shit.

>>34440344
It's a trainee ship, it's not meant to ever see combat.

>>34438905
Seems to be missing it's CBG... I'd guess the DD's and Air assets could deal with it.

>>34439291
>after 20 LACMs, the SSGN was sunk by a large surface action group from the PLAN SSF.
>ftfy

>>34440473
not with that abysmal ASW China has

>>34440484
China has ASW aircraft?

>>34440484
>abysmal
says who? You? some k/unt? The largest limitations of sonar detection are 1) DSP processing power 2) number of emitters in the sensor net. China doesn't lack either one. Haven't for like 15 years.

-t someone who actually did distributed sensor array work for USN "next gen" sonobuoys.

>>34438905
>Gets sunk by submarine
Nope!

>>34440518
>-t

Things that make me go hmmm

>>34438905
*goes somewhere else, not minding what others do close to their land*

>>34440812
>not knowing that carriers come equipped with modern ASW both on the ship and also on specialized helos.

>>34438905
why are americans so butthurt that china is growing
remember china is 1st economy of the world and has a bigger population than usa
its the matter of time they outgrow usa in military sense

>>34438905
>whole deck is a ramp

>>34442374
What the fuck did you just say you commie fuck? Get the fuck off my board

>>34442432
US is the largest economy in the world by a large margin.

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>>34438905
>Ramps were a mistake

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Danger Zone

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>>34442959

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>>34442966

>>34438905
With what, wreckage?

>>34442959
>>34442966
>>34442970
hnnnng so clean

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>>34438905
Hi, sup

>>34438905
>>>>>>>>>ramp

>>34443167
this the picture the swedes took?

>>34442966
Confirms my suspicion that they can't take off fully loaded.

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>>34442959
Holy shit, they even copy the deck bitches, their colors, and hand signals. Is there anything these pathetic slopes won't copy?

>>34443343
why reinvent the wheel when America has been operating super carriers for 40+ years and have it down to a science? Right now they haven't done much with them. Wait for them to try and run 24 hr ops with out radiating and we'll see what happens,

>>34443258

>Suspicion.

STOBAR carriers can never have jets take-off fully loaded. It's the main reason why the system elicits so much mockery. Although to be absolutely fair, the Kuznetsov-class which the Liaoning is derived from, seems to be have intended primarily as a counter-air asset, making the limited payload less of an issue because jets taking off in air-to-air configuration are going to be lightly loaded to begin with.

>>34440518
>sensor array work for USN "next gen" sonobuoys.

so was that for the surface or subsurface fleet?

>>34442393
>carriers
>on ship ASW

no, they do not. literally no carriers do because they're wildly ineffective at it. that's why the US moves entire CSGs, and not just a carrier.

>>34443417
>air-to-air configuration are going to be lightly loaded
In the era of advanced EW you're going to want to have as many missiles, countermeasures and PODZ as possible.

That 6U rack and extra radar guided missile you left behind to save takeoff weight could be the difference between life and death

>>34443442
Sonobueys are dropped from helos. It's anti-submarine warfare.

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>>34443343
Well, where is America's half-Turkic bridge bunnies?

>>34443457
yes, I am aware of that. which makes the majority of SB work for the Surface fleet. just because you work on ASW, AAW, ASUW, etc. doesn't restrict you to one fleet. so did anon do his work for the Surface side of the operation, or the Subsurface?

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>China sees a real carrier

>PLAAN btfo

>>34443455

It helps that the body of the Su-33 is rather large compared to most other fighter jets. It can carry enough fuel internally that it won't need drop pods in most situations.

>>34443458

CUTE

>>34443457
Sounds like a really comfy job.

>>34442432
Because you're growing at the expense of our friends, chang.

>>34440473
>China
>large surface action group
yeah nah, considering they don't have one (yet).

>>34440499
No.

Hence why it's abysmal.

>>34440518
>says who? You? some k/unt?
Yes, says me. The fact that you don't know that China is severely lacking in MPA and ASW aircraft throws your claims that you have done work on sonobuoy systems into question.

>>34442432
>Americans
>Butthurt about China.

Believe me, the only few people in this country who care that fucking much about China's ascendancy are autistic military nerds and fear mongering politicians. I really dont think that anyone else here even gives thought to the China issue. Its not the 50s anymore so the whole thing about obsessing over where your country ranks economically and militarily is something only done by geriatrics.

>>34443541
Pods as in EW and countermeasure pods for electronic upgrades. These can also be internal but if you're pressed for weight I doubt you'll be stuffing new electronics in there either.

>>34443524
>implying China even sees the carrier before it gets raped by the strike wing and submarines

>>34443457
LM?

>>34443417
With the confirmed payload of 2xAShMs and 2x SRAAM the J15 can took off with little more than 2 tons... This seems small, but that's the weight of a Max CAP load out of 8x PL-12 and 4x PL-8.

Not bad at all.

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>>34443671
Erm...

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/china-deploys-new-anti-submarine-aircraft-to-fringes-of-south-china-sea

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>>34440344

>>34438905
Fucking India has a carrier, am I supposed to be impressed?

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Airplanes can't fly through volcanic ash.

>>34444264
fucking fake ass picture the earth is flat lmao the russophobia AND globtardism at once

>>34444334
enlighten me more, one whom's'tv's post consists of 3's and 4's

>>34444581
haha fuck off ziotroll

>>34444264
>Russian carriers can deploy volcanic ash smoke screens to wall off conquests from enemy aircraft.

>>34443749
>obsessing over where your country ranks economically and militarily is something only done by geriatrics.

And Chinks

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>>34443770

I was just thinking it was going to be giant metal dickwaving, but your idea is good too

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>>34444227

>thumbs up gif

you're welcome

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*blocks your passage into the Atlantic*

>>34438926
Fpbp

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>>34438905
out of my way, chink

>>34442959
yeah, thats exactly how i would describe being on a Chinese made carrier

>>34444119
The issue is that they don't have very many of them. Certainly not enough completely sanitize the area of US and allied subs. they have a huge coast line and with them expanding, only so many subs, ASW frigates and MPA to cover it all.

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>>34438905
>Ramp

>the daily "chink" thread
don't you people get bored of this

>>34445682
It not even built in China, it was built in Ukraine.

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>>34438905

Not so fast, China. America is building new ships, too, you know.

https://www.navytimes.com/articles/navy-christens-launches-1st-ship-named-for-billings

>>34443457
actually the stuff I worked on was dropped from a P-8.

>>34443707
you're a dumb fuck. Why don't you go get a few degrees, get a job in the industry, then come back and bark.

Fucking little shits think reading a few wiki articles and shitposting on /k/ entitles them to fucking domain knowledge...pathetic.

>>34447467
>Why don't you go get a few degrees, get a job in the industry, then come back and bark.
Why don't you actually put those degrees to use and learn about the enemy you're trying to outsmart. Just because you work on something that a P-8 shits out doesn't mean you can't be a dummy when it comes to something else

Start here: https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Chinese-Warplanes-Aircraft-Aviation/dp/0985455403/ref=pd_sim_14_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0985455403&pd_rd_r=03GQPJSRV1S8BB5NN65B&pd_rd_w=cJ3qz&pd_rd_wg=RQcQ3&psc=1&refRID=03GQPJSRV1S8BB5NN65B

https://www.amazon.com/Flashpoint-China-Chinese-Regional-Securit/dp/0985455489/ref=pd_bxgy_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0985455489&pd_rd_r=KPPM7EBWVPDVB8JXEGN4&pd_rd_w=nrgp8&pd_rd_wg=YVV9s&psc=1&refRID=KPPM7EBWVPDVB8JXEGN4

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612003885/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

all these books will say the exact same thing from much smarter men who have actually been to all these weapon and air shows we drool about here on /k/. Even if I had looked at Wikipedia itself, it would still show a lack of aircraft (both fixed and rotary wing) that can carry out ASW patrols (not to mention, if war were to breakout, those rates would plummet, do to losses and maintenance). One of China's biggest concerns is ASW warfare, it's something they have been way behind in.
https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/china-closing-gap-anti-submarine-warfare

http://cimsec.org/undersea-dimension-strategic-competition-south-china-sea-reviewing-plans-intensified-focus-anti-submarine-warfare/26858

even their own military has said they remain weak in that regard.

>>34442959
Holy fuck those planes are huge.

>>34440278
>>34440292
I don't get it, what's wrong with ramps exactly?

>>34449574
Aircraft launched from a ramp can't carry much in the way of fuel or weapons compared to a catapult arrangement.

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What ship do you think this is, the Steve Irwin?

Get out of Filipino (my) water.

>>34438905
Are they going to sink it in the narrowest part of the strait of Singapore?

>>34445680
>carrier for ants

>>34438905
*breaks down for the umpteenth time

>>34449743
This is not the Zumwalt and Burke thread

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>>34438905
Hey guys, is this the rad new jump everyone is on about?