The AR15 is more reliable than the AK and other guns

>>34425151
You can't believe people are retarded OP?

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>>34425151

SCAR-L and CZ 806 > 1xx AKs > SG 55x and FNC/AK5 > assorted military AR15 variants > AK74/AKM > Galils and "AR killers" like the Masada > AK47 > bullpup fucking shits > (You)r tacticool garbage AR
You can disagree but you'd be wrong. This is an anonymously certified correct tier list.

>>34425151
How did pic related happen?

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>>34425403
>AK74/AKM
>more reliable than the AK47
>less reliable than AR15
>somehow AK100 series is more reliable

>>34425403

Stg77 > Fat rifles

>>34425493
Google bolt override

>>34425499
That's not just reliability, that factors everything from per unit production cost to aesthetics for the purpose of civilian intimidation.

>>34425511
Bullshitpup.

>>34425403
>assorted military AR15 variants
please, dear friend, tell us what these assorted AR15's are and how they are different, I am very eager to know.

>>34425511
correct I've put 4K rounds through mine and never had a malfunction, even in dusty and snowy conditions

>Reliability list:
1.) SR-16
2.)M16
3.)M4A1
4.)AUG
5.)SG 550
6.)ACE 32
7.)RK 95
8.) AK-74M
9.)SCAR-L
10.)G36
11.)416
12.)AKM
13.)AR-18
14.)shit
15.)FNC
16.)FAMAS
17.)HK33

Based on what I've handled.

I like the part where you have a tube critical to cycling the action sticking out the back for no goddamn reason.
I like the part where your action shits the bed in the presence of so much as a butterfly sneeze.
I like the part where the gun shits where it eats despite being so intolerant of fouling.

Tell me one good thing about this gun of yours that isn't based entirely on it's popularity. Accuracy? Fuddlore and fantasy. SG550 is Kalashnikov action and beats out ARs all day. There is nothing redeemable about the design. It's alive because NATO gobbled up cheap American mass production. America adopted it because they couldn't concede that Russia made something good. Do you see daily FAL/G3 vs AK threads? No, because those platforms are confidently viable on their own.

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>>34425709
>the AK74M is markedly more reliable than the AKM

>>34425887
absolutely.

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>>34425957

>>34425403
>SCAR-L > Karl's AR > Government Issue > Ian's AR > Your AR
fixed

>>34425638
>not already knowing this page exists while discussing ARs, ever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Colt_AR-15_variants

>>34425995
>guns with completely different cartridges, extractors, bolts, gas ports, gas block, and dozens of other internal differences are functionally identical because they're of the same lineage.
Are you a dipshit or just pretending? I'm guessing the former as you didn't cry about the ACE, 550, or RK.

>>34425829
>Do you see daily FAL/G3 vs AK threads
no, because battle rifles, and especially those examples, are obsolete and irrelevant.

>>34425829
>I like the part where you have a tube critical to cycling the action sticking out the back for no goddamn reason.
It's actually to keep the piston in line with the bore. yours is hanging out over the barrel like every pre war relic.
> like the part where your action shits the bed in the presence of so much as a butterfly sneeze.
yawn
> I like the part where the gun shits where it eats despite being so intolerant of fouling.
yawn. fouling is vented out by the carrier's ports to the outside. the fouling in the chamber occurs from residue in the barrel and the cartridge seal being broken upon extraction. all guns do this noguns
>FAL/G3
outdated shit that was obsolete before being made.

>>34426075
>cartridge
5.45 has less taper and more stuck cases (albeit still super rare compared to more straightwall cases)
>extractor
Yes an improvement in reliability
>bolt
AK-74's are more likely to have their bolt stem crack since it's thinner
>gas port
not changed for reliability of the weapon cycling

I would have given you some credit had you mentioned the newer bolt assist rivet, but that's not present on all 74Ms.

>I'm guessing the former as you didn't cry about the ACE, 550, or RK.
ACE and RK both are milled AKMs. I don't see how they've solved anything about reliability issues, unless you want to say the ACE's dust cover is that much of a boon, but that doesn't explain anything about the RK. Of course you could be implying that a 90 degree gas port has a huge effect on reliability, but that's pretty unfounded too.

I don't have any experience with the 550 so I can't talk about it, sorry.

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>>34426417
>I don't have any experience with the 550 so I can't talk about it, sorry.

Holy fuck do I love seeing some modesty around here once in a while. It's refreshing to hear that not everyone is an expert on everything.

>>34425709
STOP MODDING STALKER!

>>34425709
>AR-18
>gas piston operation perfected
>not near the top of the list

i see so many people with AR on the range that jam

I don't want a gun that jams(or rarely does) but want a semi auto
is there no gun for me

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>>34427516
My D-TECHNIK Vz-58 has never jammed on me after thousands of rounds of golden tiger 7.62x39 and no cleaning.
I've never taken it through mud or sand or anything though.

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>>34426417
This is the only critical failure ive seen after 2 dekades of working as LBA armorer.

>>34427650
good ol vz58
my favorite gun in metal gear online

>>34425151
I'm just shocked how much cleaner my DI AR-10 small frame gun is than a SCAR, when we run either supressed.

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>>34425709
>HK33
>not reliable
You're shit, and your list is shit.

>>34425403
>Scar L at the top
t. - Never used a Scar L

>>34427670
All things to fix are either, the black "klips" of the sidefolder, smashed handguards or bent gastubes and pistons due to the grenadiers still using the rifles as gren ladder where two hold a rifle and propel a third one up. A sad remainer in the reglement of days of the much more sturdy Stgw57.

>>34425709
>that list

Did u just name guns off the top of your head? Cause that's pretty much what you did.

>>34427734
>my raifu is low so the list is shit!
No. I listed guns I've personally shot or have familiarity with.

there's a huge fucking gap between 8 and 9 by the way.

>>34427472
topkek. those are shit desu senpai. the bong ones rarely work when new and the nip variants aren't anything to write home about.

>>34427709
The HK33 is easily one of the worse guns I've ever encountered. It's literally just a blowback gun that HK managed to patent as "roller delayed."

Even HK thinks it's a shit gun hence the G36 and the garbage 416.

>>34426417
>none of the improvements listed are improvements
kek nice.

>>34427794
Did you really get to handle/shoot an AR-18?

>>34427794
>HK33
>not reliable
Sure buddy, I own a C93 from Century motherfucking Arms, and have ran THOUSANDS of shit Wolf and Tula through it with no malfunctions, and that's not even HK built.

>>34427833
? They're cheap here in the US. They even made a shitty polymer lower version that took AR-15 mags.

>>34427846
nice arbitrary sample of one. want to see another? cokeman2423's autism friend has one that shits the bed in nearly every video multiple times.

They're fucking garbage guns and have the same problems the MP5 does at a much higher rate.

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>>34427915
>MP5
>Garbage
What new pasta is this?

>>34427794
>none of the improvements listed are improvements
>kek nice.

They are all improvements, they were made not to improve reliability for other concerns. The only exception is the much nicer extractor that is necessary because of higher chamber pressure and slightly higher chance of stuck cases which it helps mitigate.

To be fair, your AR was the second shittiest there OP.

>>34427670
That's an AKM profile carrier. Both it and the AK74 profile carriers are still leagues better than an AR-15 bolt for longevity, however the AKM profile one will likely hold out longer, mostly because they are used with 7.62x39 but even with galils in 5.56, it is a beefier bolt.

>>34425638
What is a TDP?

>>34427915
That's an AR-180B, barely related to the original AR-18/AR-180.

>>34425201
>drop AR
>freefloat handguard is canted

Hahahaha mud test

>>34427516
Don't buy a $400 AR. Even then sometimes they are fine. I have 4 ARs with thousands of rounds and the only issues I've ever had, which could be counted on one hand were fixed after applying lube. I'd take an AR > AK every single day