Attention everyone too poor for a PTR

Here's the thing with the century c308:
Everyone who want a PTR knows about it. They also know that for $200~300 more, they can get a much better track record and QC than century. Either pay $500 for luck of the draw
or save 300 more and get something that is a ton more consistent.
In other words, What is $300 to you?

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>>34413781
>rolling block action

wtf classic...
roller locked, you fucking monkeys.

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>>34413812
>you fucking monkeys.

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>>34413781
>rolling block
For fucks sake, it's bad enough to see people constantly call roller-delayed guns "roller locked"

>>34413804
This, a real PTR is just a little bit more, and substantially nicer in every way.

Like at first glance I seriously thought Century were selling fucking rolling block rifles. I mean goddamn.

Also you bet they'd fuck it up if they made them by themselves too.

>>34413812
It's called roller delayed blowback you fruitbatcake.

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PTR fanboys mad that a $550 rifle = their $800 one.

Also, lets stop pretending that that PTR has high level QC. Better than Century sure, but H&H they ain't.

>>34413781
Academy won't price match an Internet site. Brick and mortar only.

>>34414698
Don't the centry rifles miss the drum sight?

>>34414685
That's what he's addressing, look at the addres Classic put up.

>>34414698
Yeah, PTRs have a reputation for slamfiring, sporadic parts breakage or 5 MOA groupings.

Century is trash, shillboy.

>>34413781
As someone who owns a C308, you are talking apples and oranges. The finish is dogshit. Mine fires great, but it's not a great rifle.

>>34414698
I already got burned with a RAS47. Century gets nothing from me. Begone shill.

>>34415069
Buying a RAS47 was just idiotic because WASR's cost roughly the same price and the WASR came with much better features right off the bat.

You are just a fucking retard.

>>34415297
Indeed I'm a retard, but I'm a retard who learned his lesson.
Andvthat lesson was Century belongs in the trash.

>>34413781
>Too poor for a PTR
Nigger the PTR is the economy battle rifle. C308 is asking for a bad time.

>>34415297
>RAS47
Built by Century.

>WASR
Not built by Century.

>PTR
Not built by Century

>C308
Built by Century

I think it says itself.

Knew you PTR fagboys would get mad.

I'm well aware that PTRs are (usually) higher quality. However, the gap isn't near has wide as you claim.
There are many anons who have C308, and they all work just fine.
In fact the only bad things about the C308 I've seen are:
1. That Youtuber who had a broken firing pin which caused slamfires.
2. Those idiots who were fucking around bumpfiring from the hip and managed to break the stock.

Fact of the matter is both the C308 and PTR91 are clones of a fucking antiquated design.
You want a 7.62x51 for war?
Then go buy a SCAR or an AR10, both leave the G3 clones in the dust.

I'll save $300 on my range toy. Which, btw, shoots 2.5 MOA, and has had 0 failures after about 1000 rounds so far.

>>34415529
>I-I didn't make a bad purchase because I'm too impatient to save some money guis, h-honest!

Century also has a $50 rebate going right now on all of their guns.

>>34415529
>I'll save $300 on my range toy.

These are firearms, not store brand crackers.

>You faggots and your Beretta 92's, I bought a HiPoint for $120 and saved so much money even though I could have put a hunk of coal up my ass and waited two weeks until it became a diamond because I'm such a tightwad

>>34415615
>>34415655
So are either of yiu going to actually regute what he said about there being way better rifles at the same pricepoint?

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>>34415682
CAI builds have always been crap, and I mean always. They put .223 barrels on 5.45 Tantels for the first batch, even screwing up building other AK rifles. First batches of CETMEs had soft recievers that would flex and break scope rails, and they even made a fucking CAST aluminum receiver for a G3 line. FAL's had issues, and there's always something they manage to fuck up on each rifle run.

Sure, maybe you'll get a half decent one, but they're inexpensive for a reason - CAI uses inferior parts and craps them out as quick as possible in order to sell them.

Three hundred dollars isn't that much to save up for a PTR.

>>34415682
Are you under the impression that SCARs and good AR10s are at the same pricepoint as PTRs?

>>34413781
Congrats on your Taurus G3

The barrels, receiver and fire control group on the c308 are made by ptr the other parts are surplus cetme parts assembled by century

>>34414685
Pedantry

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>>34413804
>mfw I bought one for $600 after tax and it's been more reliable than my glock

>>34413781
Enjoy your explosive facelift senpai

>>34414783
Yes, they have a shifty CETME sight

>>34415979
[citation needed]

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>rolling block

>>34415297
NPAPs are cheaper than either and honestly are higher quality with a nice dash of ethnic cleansing.

C308 is built using a PTR receiver and barrell, so there's really nothing to bitch about. You show me a $500 ptr

>>34417646
>C308 is built using a PTR receiver and barrell
But mostly built by Century, who are known to fuck up anything they build themselves.

>>34417764
They're known to fuck up anything they PRODUCE themselves. RAS47s for example. Build kits they do just fine (e.g. npap wasr c308...)

>>34417646
2 good parts in a gun with everything else being shitty CETME kits built by retards doesn't redeem it.

>>34417777
WASRs and NPAPs aren't kit builds. They're imported. C308s aren't comparable.

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>>34417796
Do you mean to insinuate, strelok, that the nation of Spain are retards?

>>34417835
No, I'm insinuating that the proud, hardworking monkeys at Century are retards.

>>34417842
And yet other than a single youtuber ive never seen an issue with c308s. Its not like century is IO

>>34417777
Century doesn't fucking build WASRs or PAPs, you fucking troglodyte, they import them with cucked magwells and then mill them out to take normal mags, after that they swap out some easily switched parts (usually the trigger group, magazine and furniture), because 922r says they must.

Also they used to very often fuck up uncucking AK magwells, so it's a fucking wonder you don't get horrible wobble with PAPs these days, they learned how to do that.

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>>34417897
Ruh-roh
https://imgur.com/gallery/OECCd

>>34417949
I'm not a gun doctor but I don't think it should look like that.

>>34413781

Or wait another 2 years and gather up enough allowance and fast food worker money and buy an FAL.

>>34417940
AKs wobble, it affects nothing. Zero FTF, zero FTE (anyone to the right of me might bitch it is too good at extracting)

>>34417949
This is why you clean your shit

>>34418047
Cleaning your shit has nothing to do with the shitty old trunnion exploding.

I'm seriously tempted here. With the rebate going on, that brings it down to $450. Mags are dirt cheap too. Still, I've seen a lot of horror stories, and even if I don't get a lemon, it just seems like an overall mediocre rifle. I'm conflicted.

>>34418114
Senpai, dont let the haters get to you. If century was really that bad they'd be out of business

>>34418132
Do you own one?

>>34418132
>if something was bad it would be out of business.
Explain Beiber then.

>>34418160
I do
>>34418208
Music is subjective

>>34418041
>AKs wobble, it affects nothing
No, you don't get it, old Century AKs had *obscene* wobble, where the magazine barely stayed in.
Maybe you wouldn't mind, but I don't want Murphy's Law fucking me and the magazine dropping out or misfeeding when I need it.

>>34418602
[Citation needed]

I swear the JIDF is out to fight Century

>>34415979
It doesn't matter if they were hk parts faggot if century fucks up the welding headspacing and grinds the bolt a la C93 fiasco you still get a pile of shit at the end.

>>34418132
> implying
What is IO, and Taurus for that matter.

>>34418857
Nigger suppliers

at $450 with rebate, these are easily worth the gamble for entry level Battle Rifle. I would hold out for the PTR if you got manlet hands (for the nice paddle release), or want a classic looking G3 without the welded on rail, or with a Wide Handguard for Bipod

>>34418820
Of course a /pol/tergeist newfag who buys poorfag shit wouldn't know dick about Century history, but here's some examples:

https://www.mdshooters.com/archive/index.php/t-51365.html
http://www.xdtalk.com/threads/how-to-fix-the-cai-wasr10-common-problems.141111/
http://www.gunco.net/forums/3-ak-47-discussion-forum/64934-how-much-mag-wobble-acceptable.html
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_55/133074_Fixing_Magazine_Wobble_Front_to_Rear.html

This used to be reasonably common on Century AKs, particularly in the 2000's

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>>34413781
>>34414698
>>34415529

so are you going to show a video of a PTR slamfire or no

sorry faggot i don't even own a PTR but i'll gladly pay a small premium if it means avoiding century "fuck yo head-space check" international arms.

>>34413781
>Buying Century
>Ever
Yeah, go ahead and just send me your money.

>BUT MUH RAS47 SHOT 100 ROUNDS GOOD SO THEY'RE A GREAT COMPANY

>>34415979
>Assembled by century

That's the problem. If they can monkey fuck an ak, the simplest damn semi auto rifle in history. Imagine what they can do to German tech!

>>34419726
The HK91 action is even simpler than an AK mechanically though, so that's actually kind of scary.

>>34419570
That's a CETME not a PTR

>>34419759
wtf are you talking about? i never said the video file i included was a PTR

>>34416011
>glock
>can actually be limp wristed
lmao

>>34419759
Learn how to read.

>>34418114

At worst sell it for $1200 next November on fears that Dems will take both chambers of congress, or 2020 when the election hits.

During Newtown BS I personally witnessed a guy at a gun show paying $2k for a C308 with two mags. At the time people jumped those mag prices up to $20-30 each when they had bee 1-4 before that. Steel being higher than aluminum.

>paid 864$ for my ptr
>it came with steel sef receiver and welded top rail
>also came with paddle release
>superb quality

I mean cheap out on cai if you want

>>34415987
Wrong.

Roller locking is a different mechanism. The CZ 52 for example is a roller lock.

tempted to get this or save up for an AR-10. Most other battle rifles/AKs/most ARs are banned by name in this state (including a ptr). A cetme is perfectly legal though.

was considering a VEPR in .308 for a while, but would be even harder to get now due to the sanction shit on Molot.

>>34417949
>Only C308s have ever had trunnion problems

To: Existing and Potential PTR Customers:

-

This post is intended to make existing and potential PTR customers aware of a quality control issue that was recently discovered by our company involving stress cracks forming in the Trunnion on some of our products, and explain that issue in detail as well as our intentions to remediate it...

>>34420543
So where's Century's recalls for all the garbage they put out?

>>34420543
Show me an example where a PTR exploded because of it.

>>34415529
C308s are CETME's not G3's

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Hows the recoil for 308 compared to 7.62x39?

>>34422788
Are there any substantial differences? They seem more like each other than an AK and an AKM

>>34422837
The sights, Bolt, bolt carrier, end cap and, charging handle are all different. the only part they share is the receiver and chamber. Basically if you swap one part you need to swap them all. Furniture and trigger packs are interchangeable. but thats about it. G3 parts are better made and usally better functioning. Not by spaniards so thats a plus. Basically its the difference between a Tantal and a Wasr but a bit more substantial.

>>34418132
>I.O. still exists
EXPLAIN YOURSELF

the truth is that stupid people continue to buy ras47's etc. and century is only still in business because of what they import.

>>34414757

As it should be. If you think every retail store should match all online ads and bitch at them if they dont your a fucking douchebag. Running an actual store location is much more expensive than a warehouse.

Ive had assholes try to pricematch shit from ebay or alibaba.

>>34418041
>>34418602

Fuck this meme. My brother has a Wasr, I have a Saiga. My brother's magazine fit is looser than a two dollar whore, while my magazines..Surplus or Tapco, fit nice and securely with barely any play in the magazine well.

>>34424268
so in other words, your brother's operates as designed, and you don't know what you're talking about.

>>34422861
>>34422837
https://combatrifle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/CETME-HK-G3-Compatibility.pdf

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>>34413781
Oh god, is it you again?

>>34418041
>AKs wobble
Yeah, magazines often have some play left and right, that's fine, but if there's play back and forth, that's no good, the gun can easily misfeed or the bolt plain misses the cartridge and slams home on an empty chamber.

>>34414698

>high level QC

Nobody is claiminng they do.

However; PTR has never ground the back of a bolt head just to get correct bolt gap, instead of installing the correct sized rollers...

>things Century has actually fucking done...

>>34413781
If you're too poor for a PTR, chances are you shouldn't be shooting anything in .308

>>34426853
Nah, there's some pretty good .308 bolt action rifles for $400 or less, Ruger American, Savage Axis, etc.

.308 can get a bit expensive over time though so a basic reloading kit can go a long way.

>>34426891
Bolt guns are a bit different from semi auto battle rifles imo as far as use and expectations. Besides, if you're getting one of the rifles you mentioned, getting decent glass is very important.

>>34427184
Depends on if you want to shoot with glass or not.
Don't know if those have irons though.

>>34413781
Why do people still think Century sucks when they've made serious inroads in terms of quality control of their products/imports?

>>34427392
Because all the stuff they actually put together (like the RAS47, C39, and C308) is still shit. They have improved on imports but that's a bit beyond their control for the most part.

>>34427392
Because the RAS47 and C308 is still AIDS?

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>>34413781
>recommending a Century CETME
>ever
>for any purpose

OP confirmed for nogunz. But describing a CETME as a "rolling block action" piles the lulz upon lulz here.

Enjoy putting that $500 in a pile and setting fire to it, OP, which you just did. Go Google for "Century CETME problems" without quotes, which you should have done before you handed over $500 for what is usually an unfixable wallhanger.

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>>34427961
Strictly, they're not built on Spanish CETME parts, but PTR parts (allegedly).
Of course, that doesn't mean that Century aren't fucking them all up on assembly, they do sorry work to the things.

I think even an old FA91 would be a better investment, because while the receiver is shit, the rest of the gun is an excellent Portuguese parts kit, so you could rebuild it all if you got a proper receiver.
On the C308, everything is fucked.

>>34427392
everything they actually make is trash

Did Century still resort to grinding down on the back of the bolt to fix bolt gap like they did with the original CETME sporter?

>>34415814
The cast aluminum receiver was actually made by the now-defunct Federal Arms (back in the 1990s they were the first ones to make a fullsize 1911 built on a lightweight aluminum alloy frame--quality was Essex-tier but the concept was sound and Colt is building lightweight 5" 1911s now).

Those aluminum receivers, I am told, generally work okay and aren't under much load, unless the locking rollers are badly worn, which causes the same kind of locking roller bulges in the sides of the receiver as it does in a steel receiver.

However, that receiver was also for HK91/semiauto G3 clones, NOT for the CETME, and trying to put a CETME parts kit on an HK91 type receiver is the sort of pants on head retarded shit we have come to expect from Century.

Remember Century has already given us:

1893 small-ring Spanish Mausers (which were borderline dangerous even unaltered--there is a REASON Peter Paul Mauser redesigned the bolt and receiver for the 1898 model), bored the barrels out from 7mm to .30 caliber, hogged out the chambers with Dremels, then stuck in a .308 Winchester chamber insert glued in place with a dab of soft solder, which had a life of maybe 200 rounds before it detached and came out stuck to an extracted cartridge, if the higher-pressure round (something like 50%+ higher peak pressure) didn't fracture the receiver and ram the bolt through the shooter's eye socket before that happened

French MAS36 rifles converted from 7.5x54 to .308 with chamber taps that had burrs on them, making .308 brass weld itself permanently into the chambers

French MAS56 semiauto rifles converted the same way with the same tap and rendered equally unusable

the infamous "unibrow" FAL receiver upon which many an otherwise possibly usable parts kit was assembled

Polish "Tantal" AK74s built with modified 5.56mm barrels, which were .003" oversized, resulting in lots of keyholing and 12"+ groups at 25 yards

Imported by Century: mite B okay
Built by Century: run away

>>34417897
>And yet other than a single youtuber ive never seen an issue with c308s. Its not like century is IO

1. go Google for "Century CETME problems" without the quotes before the rest of us die of laughter from reading your repeated dubious claims of having a good one
2. Century WISHES they were IO.

Century C308 is fine, dont miss out on this deal! PTR is basically like buying a porsche. C308 is the working man's Toyota.

>>34428586
>C308 is the working man's Toyota
You work so the gun doesn't have to!

>>34413781
Which store is refusing? Location? >>34413781

>>34428025

>advocating someone buy a Federal Arms anything.

Fuck no. If you want good, you get an INDEP (Portuguese receiver made on the tooling that PTR bought), though you'll potentially pay more than what a current PTR goes for.

There's a guy on GB that has an INDEP receiver and trunnion in the white for $799

>>34430560

Probably because Classic is what they wouldn't call a major retailer. A lot of that matching shit is up to supervisor's or manager's discretion.

I need to call my buddy who overseas an Academy shooting section and see if they'll do a price match. I think they have PAP's and C308's in stock and wouldn't mind another PAP.

>>34428055
>Those aluminum receivers, I am told, generally work okay and aren't under much load
The problem is that the receiver is aluminum, and the barrel/trunnion is steel, and usually they'd be welded together, but you can't weld aluminum and steel, so what FA did was to epoxy that shit together. This holds up for single shots and slow shooting, but any rapid fire and the glue heats up and dissolves, the gun hopefully just jamming and rattling apart without some horrible out of battery detonation or something.

>>34430600
I've seen FA91s go for quite low, so I'm thinking if you were to take one apart, dissolve the glue yourself, etc, then buy a new receiver and have someone reassemble everything into a proper rifle with a steel receiver, you'd have a perfectly good HK91 clone for not that much. I've seen some people do this.

I mean it's only really the receiver and the whole glue thing that's bad about the FA91, all the other parts are Portuguese milspec.

>>34428586
Nah, they're chintzy shit built by assholes.

>>34419570
That guy's retarded and he was using a broken firing pin

>>34430864
>a customer didn't realize the parts on his shitty gun would break almost immediately
Yeah, I can see why you'd think he's stupid.

>>34430864
>it's the user's fault that Century made a shitty firing-pin that broke without him noticing
Fuck off, shill.