Optics /otg/

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Is this an okay red dot? How does this company hold up for reputation?

>>34411999
Amazing

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I put a Fastfire on my wasr. I really don't like it very much here; I can't quite put my finger on why. Should I go back to irons and put the FF on my incoming Vepr 12? Should I put a Prinary Arms micro dot on the vepr?

>>34412046
Wait you mean their reputation is amazing? Or are you mocking me for not knowing jack about optics? Any other recommendations for red dots?

>>34411999
>>34412112

vortex is a good brand
also checked

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is this thing any good?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT5RJLD/

i want a good optioc for my CQB carbine, holo seems like what i want as far as field of view.

is there really i reason to spend the extra on a eotech?

>>34412244
>vortex is a good brand
I trust vortex with my life on my patrol rifle when on duty.

>viper PST 2to10 ffp mrad on an spr.

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>>34412271
If you're concerned about field of view you don't know shit about using red dot optics

>>34412300
Come on mate this is a "question and answer" thread not a "question and shit all over the asker" thread. Discussion does not involve being an ass

>>34411999

The Viper is alright, but I prefer the Venom.

The Viper only has a HUGE 6 MOA dot. You have to take it off to change the battery. It also doesn't have an ambient light sensor.

The Venom is offered in 3 MOA and 6 MOA dots, you can change the battery without removing the optic, and it has an ambient light sensor.

However, you have to buy expensive high sights from Dawson Precision to work with a Venom.

Standard suppressor height Ameriglo sights will work with the Viper.

>>34412398
>>34411999

I forgot, the Venom has an auto shutoff, I don't think the Viper does.

>>34412271
The reticule actually looks much much better than the eotech.
I don't know how it stands up to torture tests, but who cares if you're not operating.

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>>34412300
uh huh

you got any actual thing to say other than faggoty laughter?

>>34412647
If you're not shooting with both eyes open, you're doing it wrong.

Also, nice EOTech ad.

>>34412712
>If you're not shooting with both eyes open, you're doing it wrong.
Yes, and having both eyes open only improves your field of vision on the non-dominant side. Any obstruction from the sight on the dominant side is still there.

>>34412712

that is tubular sight obstruction you fucking pleb

>>34412781
>>34412792
Just picked up my Aimpoint and looked around my room. Is there an obstruction? Yes, but it's hardly noticeable because of the visual superimposition. Try it yourself. It's a non-issue.

>>34412363
Where do you think you are m8? Reddit?

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>>34411982
Budget optic for VEPR12? Seen people suggest a TRS-25, how are they?

Rec me low mag scout scopes senpaitachi

>>34413156
Leupold FX-II 2.5x28.

>>34412079
How do you like that mount? Ive recently looked into doing exactly that with my wasr, mini rds on rear sight post, but heard a few bad reviews on the mount, I'm not ready to give up hope just yet tho

optics newfag here

are there any illuminated sights with adjustable magnification?

>>34413328
>are there any illuminated sights with adjustable magnification?

Thousands? Most scopes do that?

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I got this knock off turd in the mail today. Gonna put it on my 10/22 I guess.

>>34412647
Are they implying holosights are better than red dots for shooting at birds and clays? You know what's even better? Literally a fiber optic stick.

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just a heads up that RMRs are $350 on cabelas right now. Theres a version two rmr coming out with a few small improvements so they're having a blowout sale.

>>34413747

There was also a site that sold fucking MROs at $350. I wonder what that was about.

Sadly I live on the wrong site of the Atlantic or I'd have snapped one up.

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>>34413142

>>34412781
>>34412792
Both of you are fucking morons.

Just ordered a Leica ER 6.5-26 x 56 LRS to sit on my .338.
Used some Leica stuff the other week during a Leica experience day and was impressed with it all.
Id like a range finder too pretty soon.

>>34411982
Anyone else think acogs are extremely overated?

>>34413747
Do you know what sort of improvements?
>>34413753
Got a link to the MROs?

What is the best flip to side magnifier for the Trijicon MRO? Any kind will fit to it?

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>>34413142

>>34413671
how much did you pay?

I'm gonna pick up a Nikon 3-9x40 Rimfire for my CZ455 this weekend.

Good purchase?

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>>34411982
Aimpoint Micro and NEA railed handguard are made for the VZ58, works awesome

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Sold top, middle, bottom. Want to get a Sig Romeo1; anyone have experience with those? They seem clearer and not tinted like the RMR is.

>>34415500
>dat Vortex
noice

>>34414967
>an extremely durable and compact magnified optic with great glass and a wide FOV
Nah.

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I picked up a PST Gen II recently. I'm currently dumping all my shit optics and going all Vortex. The only optic I've ever used that I've liked better was a S&B on an old guys 2.5 ton bench rest rifle. I have yet to see anything under $2500 come close to competing with even some of the cheaper vortex scopes.

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>tfw astigmatism
I've looked through everything, AimPoints, EoTechs, and even the cheaper ones out of pure hope, but everything looks like fireworks.

The only solution is $1,000+ magnified optics like ACOGs or that shitty etched red dot Trijicon also makes at the same price of an AimPoint.

Anyone else know this feel or how to correct it?

>>34415628
You can get ACOGs for $800 or so.

>>34415628
Glasses don't fix the problem? Pardon my ignorance. I don't wear them myself so i don't even know how well they work with optics.
Surgery is an option.

>>34415649
They help, but not very much. Imagine the dot looking like a red firework, it's really bad.

Magnified optics are perfectly fine for me, but I don't wanna spend more than like $5-600 on glass

>>34413747
Thanks for the tip anon, just picked one up because of this post.

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>>34416039
>he fell for it

>>34412271
From reading about them online holosuns are reasonable good but have poor quality control, you might get shipped a defective one right from the start or you might have one that seems to be working that breaks a year later.

Their customer support is supposed to be pretty good though.

>>34416356

Holosun is the OEM which makes the Primary Arms red dots which the americans seem to like so much.

>>34412712
If ive learned anything this is it. It was weird at first but it's something worth practicing. If you want to oper8 that is.

>>34413142
Godamn you. Take your babyshit colored FAL and suicide by cop already. You're only role here is as a blight.

Are there any 2-7x scopes that have a mil or moa reticle? I'm not a fan of bed cause I have a 6.5 Grande. Everything is be for .223 or 7.62 so I want nice mil lines instead of random holdovers at 132, 231, and 351 yards.

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>>34413142
>tfw no trap /k/ommand gf to go innawoods adventures.

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Thoughts on the specter?

>>34416505

1&4x version?
Fine for range play, but questionable for heavy professional use.

Grime in the external lever can cause significant zero shift... And cost lives.

>>34416505
Overpriced and unreliable. Go for literally any other variable mag optic and you'll be much better off.

>>34415628
Vortex sparc my friend.it gas a etched red dot ,do it shouldnt be all fucky.

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>>34413142
When your thread becomes a trap thread and you're not even on /b/

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Primary Arms 2.5X or Primary Arms 3x?

The 3x is new but at $259 and the 2.5X is $179. Both numbers include shipping. It's be for a fuck all gun. General purpose home defense, range shooting, etc

>>34415672
Vortex Viper PST or SWFA SS 1-4x

The Steiner M332 is also a nice ACOG style scope for about $500

>>34416401
>b-but it's a different brand!

I really don't get how people can't understand that they're the same fucking thing.

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>>34411982
Opinions on the Korean brand DI Optical?

>>34412647
Kek. That's not how life works anon. If you shoot with both eyes open, which is literally the point of a RDS or holo sight you see everything. Hold up 1 finger in front of your face and look past it with both eyes open, is it blocking anything? No.

>>34416652
The 2.5x is an amazing value. Great glass and daylight bright illumination. I'm not sure how the 3x compares but it's probably just as good.

>>34416672
Stay away. Questionable quality and not built to AR15 standards.

>>34416683
Will the 3x be too magnified for CQB? If i whip out the gun during a home invasion would like to know I could acquire the target still. I'm leaning towards the 3 if the difference is only $80.

>>34416693
>Will the 3x be too magnified for CQB?
Probably. The 2.5x was almost too much, but definitely still usable. I'm sure with training you could be almost as fast as a red dot with either.

>>34416401
>>34416666
Wrong, I just looked at my PA and it doesn't say anything about Holosun. Fags BTFO.

>>34411982
What is the best deal for a 3-6x scope that isn't $600? It doesn't have to be top of the line just good enough to get the job done and be reliable? Going on an AR15.

>>34416712

Sticking it on a Rugter 556 that I got for like $430. The sight is almost as much as the gun! Yeah I think I'm going with the 3x then. I'll just have to practice for CQC

>>34416740
>3-6x
I don't even think that exists. Tell me your max budget and what the intended use of your rifle is.

You sound like a noob so I'm just gonna tell you straight up, DO NOT BUY SOME SHITTY CHEAP 3-9x HUNTING SCOPE FROM CABELAS AND MOUNT IT ON YOUR AR WITH A SET OF RINGS. That's a huge fucking mistake that a lot of noobs make.

>>34415672
check out the Primary Arms ACSS optics, they have an etched reticle and aren't a million dollars. reasonably good glass, too.

>>34416666
>I really don't get how people can't understand that they're the same fucking thing.

Supposedly Primary Arms does some extra QC before shipping, but aside from branding, it's the same thing yeah.

>>34416720
>Wrong, I just looked at my PA and it doesn't say anything about Holosun. Fags BTFO.

Truly, this man cannot be conned!

>>34415628
Primary Arms has 1x prism scopes that are great for astigmatics.
Any vortex with 1-4 or 1-6x magnification will be fine, too.
You won't get a holographic or red dot sight, but you will get almost 1x (probably like 1.1x) magnification and a quality scope.

>>34416763
I am a noob and /arg/ is filled with fuckbois that turn their nose up at you if you spend less then $1,500 on your rifle. I just want a bit of magnification that lets my rifle reach out a bit more then what I could do with the iron sights. A distance the average shooter can reasonably be expected to land a decent grouping.

I'd like to keep it between $300-500. Something with illumination would also be nice but I have astigmatism so not sure how that is going to effect the crosshairs.

>>34416424
I'm not that tripfag but thank you

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>>34416652

The 3x is a pretty damn good budget ACOG. Would always recommend it.

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>>34416798

I have astigmatism to some extent as well and I have never had a problem with etched illuminated reticles. Primary Arms stuff is all pretty good, as are some of Vortex and Burris's offerings.

>>34416798
Steiner M332 or M536. It's an excellent ACOG alternative that has an illuminated etched reticle that won't be affected by astigmatism. You will also get Gucci points because it's a Steiner. It has a lifetime warranty.

Primary Arms 2.5x, 3x, and 5x prism scopes are a cheaper alternative with a lesser warranty

/arg/ bullies people for good reason.

Fixed magnification prism scope with red dot mounted on top, or low power variable?

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someone buy my PAC4X

>>34416939
$1

>>34416993
sold but shipping is $249
pay up goy

>>34416823

how's target acquisition at 10 yards?

>>34417014

If you can shoot both eyes open through magnified you'll be fine. I had no problems with it.

>>34416999
>$250 for a used PA optic that was discontinued for QC issues
$50 final offer

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>>34417025

>>34417025
>>34417030

sigh, well I'll only make the purchase once. Guess I'll get the 3x over the 2.5x. even though the 2.5x is actually on sale for $80 less.

>>34417041

I would say it's a higher quality optic because it was a later generation of scope for PA. Plus I think 3x is the sweet spot for fixed stuff.

>>34413056
please don't justify youre shitty attitude by saying "hurr durr we're on /k/"

What Optic works well with an AK47?

Have an optics question for you mongs. What can I put a Mepro M21 on?

I have one on my Tavor and another on my Sig MPX. It's fine on the Tavor even though the bullseye is too big for any kind of accurate long range shooting because I'm an autist and like things to be proper. It works fine on the MPX but I have an Aimpoint T2 on a VEPR-12 and that's too much optic for that piece of slavshit, so I was going to buy one of those RMRs on sale for the VEPR because I like the design better for it and move the T2 to the Sig, which leaves me with an extra Mepro.

Don't want to put it on a .308 because of the size of the bullseye and all my other guns have optics already. What gun would be good to buy to put it on? 7.62 x 39 or 5.56 Galil ACE (already have a .308 one)? H&K 9mm pistol or wait on 10mm Scorpian to come out? Some other kind of 5.56 that I don't care much about accuracy with?

Also was going to put an ACOG on the .308 Galil but open to suggestions there.

>>34416763
>DO NOT BUY SOME SHITTY CHEAP 3-9x HUNTING SCOPE
but it works just fine. what am I doing wrong?

>>34417086
whichever one you can fit on a mount

>>34417110
Kel tec CMR-30

>>34417137
gtfo

How is the EOTech Vudu 1-6 as a general purpose scope for shooting 1-500m?

>>34418059
>EOTech
lolno, Get a Vortex Razor 1-6x.

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Sig Romeo 4 any good?

>>34418126
just get a Holosun

>>34418136
Korbosun isn't on clearance for 100 dollars

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how bad did i fuck up
this is for a ptr-91 maybe my ar havent really decided

>>34418147
That's a good price. Buy it.

>>34418161
Not bad. Should've got a better mount.

>>34416505
I personally like the TA31/RMR combo better. The Spectres are too expensive for what you get, unless you're cloning and care more about the aesthetic aspect than money or practicality.

>>34418191
i was thinking about a qd mount but im cheap

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>>34413142
this pleases me.

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Convince me not to buy this accupoint right now

>>34418274
the tritium is faded

>>34418274
There's a new 1-8x Accupower.

>>34418289
>24hr battery life

>>34418274
It's a 4x scope that doesn't have a BDC reticle.

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>>34418289
>battery
no thanks

>>34418287
I've had good luck with trijicon and their tritium so far, but i know that it has an expiration date.

>>34418310
bdc reticle isn't a dealbreaker, since at most i'll be shooting from 25 to 300 yards with a 25 yard zero

>>34418034
what's the problem

>>34418332
post AR

>>34418274
American defense has a qd mount for 150 that is better than larue

>>34418338
this isn't /arg/
what's wrong with 3-9 scopes?

>>34416505
One fuckhuge expensive mistake that is utterly shat on by an ACOG+RMR setup.

>>34416720
Does your Charger say "Fiat" on it? No, it doesn't, but I have some bad news for you bud.

>>34418367
You're buying cheap and shitty glass is the issue. Why /arg/ apparently has a monopoly on not having poverty Chinese optics is beyond me, but 2/3rds of this thread refuses to spend more than $500 on glass and then has the gall to get pissy when people point out you get what you pay for with magnified optics. This is supposed to be a general for all optics, why are the cheap poorfag ones the only things up for consideration?

>>34416401
>>34416666
>same OEM means same quality
The sheer amount of idiocy and ignorance one display here is staggering

>>34418439
On*, fucking phone

I'm looking for an optic for a DD MK12. I'd like to spend $1000 for something with 1-6x magnification. What are some good options? Sorry, I'm pretty new at this

Are there any other variable 1x- or low power scopes that have a german post reticle like the accupoint? I want to get one, but can't justify spending $1,000 on a scope that I'll have to exchange every 10 years.

Thanks for the suggestions earlier. I bit the bullet and ordered a Primary Arms 3x prism scope for my budget 4th of july gun hobby splerg.

>>34418459
>dd mk 12
Why did you do this?
At any rate get something in the 2-10 range, the 18'' will shoot farther than you think

>>34418475
You do understand It's a Half-Life, so the tritium just won't be as bright 10 years down the line

>>34418431
I didn't know nikon was cheap and shitty glass. hint: it's not

>>34418475
I thought Trijicon put in new tritium for a nominal fee.

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>>34418459
>mk12

you can reach out way farther than you think with that barrel my guy.
>Leupold MK4 LR/T 3.5-10

>>34418513
>delusion
>>34418516
They do

For the variable zoom scopes. Is it possible to design a mechanism similar to car seats and driver preferences?

Like the first preset is for 2x and you can zero it in and set it. Then you can create a second preset for 4x zoom. Then when you flip between the presets the scopes remembers and automatically clicks for you?

>>34418519
>>34418500
What's wrong with the Mk12?

>>34418536
You use the same zero regardless of magnification. Set it to the highest magnification and dial it in.

>>34418538
Nothing is wrong, it's the fact that you want a 1x- ~ scope for a mk12, where the mk12 shines at further ranges than what a 1x- ~ can do. At least a 3.5x- ~ would be appropriate.

go back to your richfagging containment thread, you trust fund babies

>>34417137
Some people just cant comprehend that maybe someone doesnt need good glass. Ive shot sub moa groups at 100 yards with a $30 walmart scope, it looks like garbage but it works.

>>34418550
but muh cqb

I don't think a 1-X scope is a terrible idea - at least he will be ready for 3 gun.

>>34418554
but this is a containment thread?

>>34418568
a 1x- ~ scope is the ideal scope for 3-gun, but if he bought an mk12 I don't imagine 3-gun was the driving factor for purchase.

>>34418513
Jesus I bet you're being serious.

>>34418516
They do, it's like $100 for a new insert that lasts 12 years. Anon is just being retarded/poor.

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Anybody have experience with the Vortex 1-6x Strike Eagle? Any recommendations for other good priced magnified optics for SHTF, general use?

>>34418633
It's acceptable for the money - same scope as the PA 1-6x, but with an inferior reticle. I would look into the the new 1-8x Strike Eagle II if you want something in a similar price range from Vortex.

>>34418633
vortex viper pst

>299.99

>>34418633
I like my 1-6. I would like to get the 1-8 though. The 1-6 is my 3-gun optic and it definitely works well for that. Still haven't taken it past 300 yards though.

>>34418538
Nothing, the Daniel Defense one is a little uninspiring however. Wrong muzzle device and it comes with the goofy DD Furniture

>>34412244
nice double dubs

>>34418644
>>34418648
>>34418667
Thanks. Any words about Vortex as a brand? They seem like the king of budget optics, but (and I know it's a meme), are they SHTF dependable?

>>34418826
>are they SHTF dependable
Depends on model. Tier 1 operators use the Razor 1-6, some have even been seen with the Viper PST 1-4x

They have one of the best warranties in the industry.

>>34418826
Yes, they are dependable. An anon shot a SPARC II with birdshot a few years back and it worked fine. Most modern scopes are built like tanks anyway and Vortex will replace your shit for free regardless of how it got destroyed.

>>34418826
Vortex is a pleasure to work with. If you ever have an issue, they'll bend over backwards to make it right.

Strike eagle for 230 or viper for 300

>>34418851
>>34418852
Thanks to you all again. You've been quite helpful. One more question, does the 1x8 Vortex scope that anon mentioned >>34418667
have a true 1x? Or is it more like 1.5x?

>>34418931
Viper for sure. Better reticle and glass.
I would recommend a quickthrow lever or a nylon coaster as a substitute, as the adjustment dial is very stiff.

>>34418947
They advertise as true 1x, so possibly. It's impossible to say without seeing it. Most scopes are around 1.1x - it's not that hard to adjust to.

>>34418965
Thanks again my kind /k/ friends.

4th of july deals seem pretty lackluster right now, thinking about jumping on that 300 viper but I'm not sure if I should wait and see what else comes out on the actual 4th...

Burris 2-7x scout
Vs.
Vortex crossfire II

Anyone have experience with either ?
It will be used a scout scope on a forward rail

>>34418508
>>34418605
I'd prefer batteries to tritium desu. It is a novel idea in iron sights, or anything from 20 years ago, but electronics technology is advanced enough to do away with it.

Anyone have any experience with Leupold? In particular the HAMR and the D-Evo? Their pricy as fuck but my stepdad likes expensive bullshit and he's a Leupold fanboy that is going to use the scope setup for shooting gophers.

I was looking for some advice regarding AR magnified optics. What are some recommended choices for each of these tiers?

Entry(ie minimum that could be considered decent):
Good(sufficient for any kind of normal civilian use):
Best:

I'm open to both fixed power and variable.

>>34416672

>used to work for a korean company

RUN RUN RUN. Koreans cut corners at every opportunity. I guarantee you that site is probably a Korean peckerslength improved over a cheap Chinese clone from Alibaba.

>>34419438
If you need to have the advantages of tritium explained to you you're too far gone.

>>34419553
>Entry(ie minimum that could be considered decent):
Primary Arms, Vortex

>Good(sufficient for any kind of normal civilian use):
SWFA, Primary Arms, Vortex Viper, Burris, Steiner

>Best
Vortex Razor, Trijicon, Leupold, Nightforce, Steiner, Primary Arms Platinum line

>>34418136
Fuck Holosun. Get Primary Arms.

>>34420080
same fucking thing

>>34420130
Not even close. PA is an American company and Holosun is Thai.

>>34420165
Holosun is the OEM for PA

>Holosun Technologies, located in Walnut California, was established in 2013 by one of the industries most successful OEM manufacturers

http://holosun.com/our-story/

I'd like to put a scope on my ar carbine within the next few months. anyone have any experience with this? Or should i save a bit longer and get something else?
I like how it has the option of no zoom so that's kind of important to me.

https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Optics-1-4x-Throw-Illuminated/dp/B00AU6EIIY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498963477&sr=8-1&keywords=bushnell+1-4x+24mm+throw+down+pcl

A guy is offering to sell me an MRO on a Bobro mount for 450. Decent enough deal? I'm new to AR optics and I'm just mounting it on my go to carbine so I want something good.

Might be a deal at $400

>>34420476
Belay my last.
Sounds decent after looking at the mount. QD?

>>34420532

Yes, it's got a throw lever and an extra spacer if I want to run it 1/3 co witness.

I'd buy it.

A guy is selling a Aimpoint Comp M4 on Armslist for $550. Is that a good deal? Should I try to Jew him to bring down the price?

>>34415352
100 something for it. Was on ebay. It's actually pretty solid. I actually set it next to a newer, real ACOG today, and this thing actually has a nicer housing on it.

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This is my favorite optic that I have had for quite some time now.

wgat should i put on my scar17. there was like a 3x or 4x scope we had on a 240 that i think woukd be pretty nice but i cant remember what it was called. eotechs are pretty aesthetic but im not sure how i would like it as an optic

>>34422851
vortex hd gen 2

>>34422905
thats like a 2-8x right? that wluld suit the rifle well i think.

>>34422933
1-6 x24 actually, its what i got on mine, add a geissele vortex mount and youre gucci to go.

i went with the jm1 reticle.
i hope you got the 308 otherwise dont bother and get a vortex eagle

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>>34422933
Here's a pic, sorry for the size it's still in my phone

>>34422948
ive never seen a 5.56 scar, as far as im concerned theyre a hoax.
>>34422956
it does look nice. il shop around for a deal i guess. im in no rush really

>>34422985
surprisingly they sell too for 3k regularly, i saw a 223 one with 600 off though for the 4th of july.

if youre looking for a grip too (i fucking hate A2 shit) i got mine from parker mountain machine, they just get regular ar 15 grips and drill them to fit the scar, i got no complaints, got the hogue one.

http://www.parkermountainmachine.com/store/c40/SCAR_16%2F_17.html

>>34412271
Holo isn't too bad. A million holos will break before an aim point, but since your poorfag ass is only going to abuse it as far as turning it on every so often and aiming it at your stepdads dog it'll be plenty.

Not only could you not afford an eotech if you're considering holo, but even free is too much for those pieces of shit

I'm getting into hunting and have pretty much narrowed my scope options down to a Meopta MeoStar R1r 3-12x56 RD 4C as it seems to be decent value. What I am unsure about is whether to pick a first or second focal plane reticle.
The idea of second plane is more appealing to me but I heard the reticle can drift from the point of impact depending on magnification with second plane. If so, do you think that drift would be significant at shots up to a maximum of 200m (650 feet) with a scope at that pricepoint?

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>>34413142

Is chevron better than dot for people with astigmatism? I currently have the Trijicon MRO.

>>34411982

Anybody know when that new Russian holographic sight is going to hit the market? Jupiter Valdai or something?

Any word as to quality? Alot of the Russians newer stuff lately has been really awesome, especially for the money. Like the NPZ PSU 1-4x.

>>34413142
Moar?
My aimpoint has extended to a trijicon...

>>34416438
Just go either 2-10 or 2.5-10.

Most of the 2-7 stuff is gonna be duplex or bdc

Newfag question What's the point of 1x prism scopes? Except for astigmatism, why not get a normal red dot or a 1-x variable scope?

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>>34423941
Ask and ye shall receive

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>>34424382
OwO whats this?

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>>34424382
I un-ironically fapped to this, thanks

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>>34424408
NP

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>>34424382
Dude nice >gun

>>34423082
Jesus christ did a holosun shit in your mouth or something?

>>34413671
Im a poorfag who lives in an apartment, so no dreams of being some operator. Recomend because of aesthetics or is it pure trash? Only for airshit and 22?